How do you know if you're unattractive?

How do you know if you're unattractive?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you just know…

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not necessarily, there are attractive people with deep insecurity issues that don't realize they're attractive. I thought I was unattractive as a teenager and didn't believe it when people told me I was good looking, I had a girl ask me out once when I was 14 and I convinced myself she was just trying to trick me or set me up with some ugly girl(which made zero sense) Then I did shrooms when I was like 18 and looked in the mirror and my insecurities went away and I realized I was attractive.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        based shroom enjoyer. i flip between thinking I'm hideous and incredibly handsome on an hourly basis. infuriating tbh

        ik i'm not below 5/10 tho. ive had some female attention.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >i flip between thinking I'm hideous and incredibly handsome on an hourly basis.
          congrats, you have BPD

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            For real? NTA but I have major mood swings which usually affect how I perceive myself. Last time I was honestly convinced I was disfigured and genuinely the ugliest man in the world. Next week I was fine.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but isn't BPD extreme mood swings?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can confirm. Looking back to my college days/high school days I was at least an 8 maybe a 9/10. Women would eye fuck me constantly, all but begging me to approach. But I was deeply deeply autistic and insecure so I missed all of it and now I'm fat and bald.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >people told me I was good looking
        I've had girls genuinely tell me i'm attractive and i've also had girls tell me I was ugly. You can't rely on other people.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          what is considered attractive is dependent on other people's perception

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes you can. it’s literally all you can rely on lol

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda obvious

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do people make eye contact and randomly start conversations? No? Well I got some news for you champ

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people make eye contact and randomly start conversations?

      This is probably the biggest indicator. People want that halo effect

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What if they make eye contact but never start conversation?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Women will rarely start conversations with random men, they expect you to make the first move. But if they're making eye contact with you they're most likely attracted to you. Like if you make eye contact with them once, look away and then can catch them making eye contact with you a second time, it's almost guaranteed they're attracted to you. That's the best way to figure it out. If they smile at all it's also a sign. it might not be a big smile, look for micro-expressions. Also trust your intuition, your naturally designed to be able to read these things intuitively. Some people might think it's bullshit but there's energy exchanges going on around people, you can naturally feel when someone is attracted to you, just listen to your gut feelings. It's what people call "vibes" the word vibes literally comes from hippies to acid and saying people gave off energy vibrations, and shortened it to vibes. In the same way you can get a gut sense someone is dangerous or untrustworthy, you can get a gut sense someone is attracted to you.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I didn’t realise this. I go to college on bus and there’s a woman who I catch looking at me a bit. We made eye contact a couple of times as well. Maybe I should try smile at her see what happens.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            good luck anon

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just talk to her

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Women are too afraid of getting rejected to make the first move, men have testosterone which is designed to make us horny enough and confident enough to take the risk of getting rejected and ask the woman out. Most men can get over rejection pretty quickly, if a woman got rejected she would probably be suicidal. Woman are also turned on by the idea of the man making the first move, they like the idea of dropping subtle hints and him noticing and coming up to her and flirting with her. It's like a cat and mouse game. They don't get turned on by the idea of the man being too afraid to approach her so she has to go up to him.

            If you wanna know the way women think and what turns them on read some of those popular erotica novels they love like fifty shades of grey. It's basically the womans version of porn. That was one of the best selling books in the world and it's basically just a female sex fantasy about BDSM.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              you’re over analyzing all this but then again i know you’re speaking for yourself and the average guy on IST. women do approach, yes even 7+ women, but of course you’re going to deny and argue this because it isn’t your experience

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm aware that women sometimes randomly approach, but it's very rare and they're not usually direct. They'll say something else, like I've had women say to me "wow you're so tall" while standing in a gas station line, or at school I had girls come up to talk to me about class, the only time I directly had a woman ask me out was in 8th grade, but she already knew I liked her.

                But really the odds of a random woman going up to a guy to ask him out or express interest is very rare. Even the highest tier guys rarely experience this. Women want you to come to them, they want to be the object of the desire. The masculine role it to be the first one that approaches.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                i’ll give you that then. i’m not at all the approaching type and it still regularly happens. everything you can think of whether it’s being complimented for my looks, asking for number or social media, buying me drinks, being aggressive and touchy, groped, offering to take me home etc has happened to me at least once. anything is possible when you’re in a social environment with women full of liquid confidence. but i do agree it’s better to take action and approach. chasing women when i’m out isn’t my thing though

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                How tall are you sir?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                idk
                got a friend whos probably an 8/10
                everytime we've gone out to bars/clubbing, women have approached him
                women have even approached him outside of that, one time a waitress flat out asked him to come to her house after her shift. He rejected her as he was dating someone at the time, and told me how annoying it was because "it happens all the time"
                goes without saying these women weren't ugly
                made me wanna kms ngl

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just out of curiosity is he fit?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                he's in shape but not IST
                doesn't really gym, just a healthy average build

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                that other anon isn't me
                he is fit now, so hes really slayer tier
                but he wasn't before when those events happened
                hes was top tier pretty boy ectomorph, now hes more handsome

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                actually he's in shape but not IST
                doesn't really gym, just a healthy average build

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                no, he actually gyms all the time because hes the type that loves it
                we work out the same, so his time in the gym is about 2.5 hours 6/7
                he is genuinely in good shape

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’m a good looking guy and I get cat called and approached often enough, depends where you are and the kind of foot traffic. If I walk by highschools when they’re out the chances of getting cat called by some group of girls is pretty high, girls are a lot more confident in groups.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but it's very rare and they're not usually direct
                I feel very stupid, I went to a friend's house party about a week ago and was lamenting to myself how I get know women, was alone in a corridor checking shit on my phone when a very very good looking girl came up to me and asked me to "give her the house tour", I laughed and said "I don't actually live here" and then she said "well you can give me the house tour I never got then". It didn't go anywhere, I ended up sorta pointing random shit out for fun and walking her out to the backyard pool and having a short chat but it ended at that. I didn't think anything of it at the time but now I'm starting to feel like I completely fucked up a good opportunity. I have no clue how to escalate, I feel too out of my element

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              This is true for sub 8 men, but Chads do get approached regularly especially in a social setting.
              Some men just have unrealistic expectations for women initiating on a sidewalk, mall, or grocery store. They're 10x more likely to initiate in clubs, bars, and parties.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                at parties they will always try make conversation with you and brush up against you, i have even had a male acquaintance tell me that "she has a crush on you" and that i should talk to her after only seeing her for 5 minutes half an hour prior. they also like taking pictures with you for some reason

                witchcraft i say

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                idk
                got a friend whos probably an 8/10
                everytime we've gone out to bars/clubbing, women have approached him
                women have even approached him outside of that, one time a waitress flat out asked him to come to her house after her shift. He rejected her as he was dating someone at the time, and told me how annoying it was because "it happens all the time"
                goes without saying these women weren't ugly
                made me wanna kms ngl

                Women approach me and I fail spectacularly. I actually find it kind of funny to tell my friends about it, they get fucking pissed, even though I'm pretty sure they've slept with more women than I have.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                THIS SHIT. I thought I was ugly for the longest time even though I check most normie boxes of being attractive
                >6 foot barefoot (although I don't tower over people like /fit acts )
                >long thick hair that I saved with fin and actually take care of it instead of just letting it look like shit
                >baby face that can grow a beard pretty easily and quickly
                >thick solid tight
                NEVER got approached so just kinda thought I guess I really am not that attractive. I get invited to a house party and it's like a completely new world. Girls bumping into me with their butts then looking back with a smirk, girls grabbing my hand to drag me somewhere, I even had a girl sit on my lap with no prompt as I was sitting with some friends in a circle outside. Spring Break was even a bigger eye opener. I realized you have to be in places where it's 'normal,' to flirt and do this shit for girls to initiate when during SB this past year two girls busted into my room and said they were going to sleep in my bed and there wasn't a thing I could do about it.

                Then I go back to normal life and girls just act frigid to me even in the gym.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >SB
                Santa Barbara?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Chads do get approached regularly especially in a social setting.
                Not a Chad, but I do, which is annoying sometimes.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              women just dont like to be sluts because we shame them for it

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >women dont want their slutness to be known
                FTFY

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >le men evolved to read the frequency at which le woman vibrates and go ask her out and le deal with rejection
              For the vast majority of human history you would just rape the bitch and be done with it.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Stopped reading after the first line. Even with a lot of predator animals they will wait for females to come to them (wolves and hogs as an ex)
              If women want men to
              >protect
              >provide
              >have a good personality
              >be a rock
              Then they can at the very least make their desires known. Especially since there are tons of shitty women that will use the same """hints""" to manipulate men.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Men evolved to have higher testosterone to ask women out in public
              HOLY KEK. this is the most retarded moron IQ take on human physiology ive ever seen in 8 years on this site.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Women are too afraid of getting rejected to make the first move, men have testosterone which is designed to make us horny enough and confident enough to take the risk of getting rejected and ask the woman out. Most men can get over rejection pretty quickly, if a woman got rejected she would probably be suicidal. Woman are also turned on by the idea of the man making the first move, they like the idea of dropping subtle hints and him noticing and coming up to her and flirting with her. It's like a cat and mouse game. They don't get turned on by the idea of the man being too afraid to approach her so she has to go up to him.

            If you wanna know the way women think and what turns them on read some of those popular erotica novels they love like fifty shades of grey. It's basically the womans version of porn. That was one of the best selling books in the world and it's basically just a female sex fantasy about BDSM.

            >Women are too afraid of getting rejected to make the first move

            Welcome to 2022 chuds. Try living in the current year

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I will never approach a woman, they are all just waiting to call the cops on you and sue you to death.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                No I meant women today approach men they like

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                7+ women do not approach men they like, they dont have to.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                never seen this IRL, I don't think women approach at all- they just give off vibes and the guy talks to them

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                My past 2 gfs have asked me out. But like

                7+ women do not approach men they like, they dont have to.

                said, they weren't exactly super models

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >at work
                >qt temp shows up, we greet each other
                >later that day manager comes up to me
                >”so did you meet (qt temp)? she told me she thought you were cute and wanted your number”
                >agree to give out my number
                >she texts me ‘hey’ with monkey faces
                >i have to carry the conversation tho she loosens up after a bit
                >we click and text a fuckton
                >ask her on date
                >go on date and she rejects me afterwards

                brehs… so tired of women and their games..

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >gives girl #
                >plays pen pal
                >spergs on date
                >”fuckin women”

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe in Northern Europe, but not in the Med or Anglosphere.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Go outside retard. Women never approach men unless they’re ran-through turbo sluts.
                At most they may say hi to you. Everything beyond that it’s the man’s job.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Same, I'm still horrified by hearing stories of men who got #metooed to oblivion by insane Christmas cake women.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous
            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reminds me of this barista I see once or twice a week. We usually have a fun, quick conversation which I have to initiate and carry. But I can tell she gets eager & happy to serve me when I'm waiting in line. But the last time I didn't say anything (just hi with friendly, open body language). I wanted to see if she would say anything. She said NOTHING. Zilch! As soon as I finished paying she gave me a rude "thank you, bye" and walked away all bitchy like I did something wrong.

            Why are they like this...

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >which I have to initiate and carry
              >But I can tell she gets eager & happy to serve me
              This is just your autism crippling your ability to figure out that she does not give a shit about you, never has, and was only being polite because it's her job as a barista to make you feel welcome there. It's not her, it's 100% you. Cope.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Absolutely not true
            This is what I thought til I made friends with actual attractive dudes and they literally have girls throwing themselves at them

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Also trust your intuition, your naturally designed to be able to read these things intuitively. Some people might think it's bullshit but there's energy exchanges going on around people, you can naturally feel when someone is attracted to you, just listen to your gut feelings.
          What if I get this intuition with waitresses and female cashiers?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can always try asking them out if you really think they might like you, but you need to be able to discern customer service from flirting. If they say no or they have a boyfriend just leave them alone, don't make it weird or pressure them.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          THIS
          >be hamplanet
          >waiting in line at the costco
          >notice older milf walking back
          >look over
          >stares directly at me
          >gives me a strong smile
          > shocked but didnt break eye contact
          >smile back
          >gives me a bashful look like pic related
          thinking about it makes me glad im back at the gym and eating right, hopefully I stick with it.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Really goes to show the incel and autism and Gen z terminally online retard presence on this board that people don’t know this

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          men are evolutionarily predisposed to over interpret signs of attraction from women because historically it was better to assume a woman was interested and be wrong rather than not assume and miss a potential mating opportunity.

          I dont think that gut feelings or intuition in terms of perceiving attractiveness as a man is always going to work out the way you think it might

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Women are too afraid of getting rejected to make the first move, men have testosterone which is designed to make us horny enough and confident enough to take the risk of getting rejected and ask the woman out. Most men can get over rejection pretty quickly, if a woman got rejected she would probably be suicidal. Woman are also turned on by the idea of the man making the first move, they like the idea of dropping subtle hints and him noticing and coming up to her and flirting with her. It's like a cat and mouse game. They don't get turned on by the idea of the man being too afraid to approach her so she has to go up to him.

          If you wanna know the way women think and what turns them on read some of those popular erotica novels they love like fifty shades of grey. It's basically the womans version of porn. That was one of the best selling books in the world and it's basically just a female sex fantasy about BDSM.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I reflected enough to come to that conclusion on my own but I still can’t get rid of that ego

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            In my case it's very low confidence and immense self hatred.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >You're naturally designed
          Well the designer fucked up on me then, I want a refund

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes women will never start conversations, I assume there's something biological about it because there's basically no social cost for women approaching.
          I get girls staring at me all the time in public, had one experience of a girl at a tram stop permanently staring at me from the corner of her eyes, while we were waiting.
          Now I've just got to stop being socially retarded and fix my stutter and ill be able to talk to women.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >latina in the club passes me by making agressive eye contact all along, turning her head specifically to look at me
          >I keep it for a second then look away
          what was I supposed to say I don't speak fucking spanish

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          not one reddit space skin sight. beautiful. there's hope for this board after all

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          i had a female at work that looked at me non stop, smiled also, she even talked to me first once when I finished the work for the day, I really wanted to approach her but then I saw on her socials that she has a husband and is married lol

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fucking this.
            >catch a girl looking at me
            >sit next to her and talk
            >we talk and laugh through the rest of the night
            >she texts me the next day
            >lives with her long term bf
            I don't understand what her intentions are. I wouldn't want a gf that seeks male attention from people she barely knows like that while in a relationship

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Correct, attention and don't pursue it because even if you did steal her away from him she'd do it to you as well.
              Don't hold it against her you're probably just dreamy.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >dreamy
                What do you mean?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cute and nice looking like a boy who plays acoustic guitar. Mad soulful eyes or something.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You must have a good sense in people. Several woman got shocked after they saw me doing drugs or drinking heavy. They thought because of my nice and cute look I would not do something bad like that kek

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >lives with her long term bf
              change that to
              >distance relationship

              would there be a chance? asking for a friend

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If she is unhappy in her long distance relationship you have a good chance. Thing is, why doesn't she talk to her partner and works on improving their relationship or breaks up? Instead she would cheat? That's what is likely happening in your potential relationship if you go down that road.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        they might be just wary and think "I hope that creep doesn't approach me"

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah maybe it is this. I guess I do come of as creepy but I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Any tips?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            don't be creepy deep inside or convince yourself you aren't and it's a quirk

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          women will try their very best not to look at a stranger that they're not attracted to.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Women look at me with fear. Especially the little ones.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              either you have a very large frame and set of grotesque muscles or you're straight up ugly. or both

              This.
              Women will obviously try to look the other direction. I get this all the time

              feels bad man. still, keep your body fit and healthy though.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            This.
            Women will obviously try to look the other direction. I get this all the time

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Daryl is as bad as the gangbang and blowjob guys just because he's an ugly dweeb
          Really makes you think

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I hope that creep doesn't approach me
          Literally everywhere I go.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but I thought it was because of my confident stride and sense of fashion. But all this time, I was just attractive?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek'd
      while largely true some people look ok but have a "fuck off" demenor

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No to both.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get this but only from ugly/fat/old women
      What does this mean?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      1. Women feign disinterest by default. Even with today's lack of female modesty, by biological drive they maintain an air of disinterest around men they don't know.
      2. If you are attractive, it's highly likely you've been attractive for a long time and you wouldn't notice if people were looking at you and talking to you more than they "should". Of course someone who was fat and lost a lot of weight would be someone who recently BECAME attractive and would have the means to compare.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cope

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          is it? or are you just fantasizing about what being attractive is like?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, this is true.
        Was fat my whole life till 20. Then I lost 70lbs and women actually look at me and when I talk with them, they actually seem interested in what I have to say.
        Also, learned this from some female friends and relatives. If a girl makes an excuse for physical contact with you, she likes you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Do people make eye contact and randomly start conversations?
      If this is a indicator for being attractive i must be a super model because people start conversations with me all the time and its so fucking stressful to not spill my spaghetti whenever this happens.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/27RgULG.jpg

        Hypermasc here
        Usually I can just do whatever I want, I’m also 6’4
        I’m not conventionally handsome like the new kids on the block that actually get girls for being feminine (which is cringe but it works)
        However I have been described as ruggedly attractive
        And since I don’t have to play the “sensitive “ card, I don’t have to try, giving shorter responses to girls, usually just holding eye contact and making them look away because they’re intimidated by me is enough,
        Women want a big, masculine dude, and once you turn 25 and above, the hypermasc begins to run the show.
        I might not be able to get super petite 18 year olds anymore unless they have a daddy fetish, but in the end women do fantasize about a HYPER MASC to lead them in life.
        I do miss some of those teen girls, but I had my time
        When I was 18-25, I fucked Over 140 girls of all attractions, including fatties and whores
        Now though, I’ve stopped caring entirely and women notice, they can tell I have nothing to gain, nor lose and this makes them attracted to me
        Have sex, incels

        this guy here
        act like you don't care or are inconvenienced, or just listen to them and figure out what the point of their message is, and from there decipher if its worth your brain capacity
        don't show enthusiasm unless you find a worthy fo
        I've had girls hold doors open for me and continusouly get in my way, and they say shit like sorry, but when they see my dead fucking eye stare at them, as if i'm judging them for their stupidity, they feel at fault and embaressed and they actually smile and spill their spagetti, this works on even the hottest girls.
        try it, if you feel like you're working too hard in conversations
        you see this will change you into the hypermasc faster.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >act like you don't care or are inconvenienced, or just listen to them and figure out what the point of their message is
          What the fuck this is actually good advice. This is so simple yet i never even thought about doing this when random people start talking to me. Maybe i really do have autism

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Same, bitches suddenly decide to talk to me and I'm in a whole other world in my mind so I end up looking like a massive moron

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit, i've been attractive all this time?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok but how do I get them to leave me alone; that shit is annoying.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >how do i get them to stop
        by actually going outside instead of larping that youre some sigma uber chad
        fuck off cunt

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wear a permanent scowl, resting bitch face makes you unapproachable

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm literally ugly as fuck and everybody in my campus stops to talk to me, strangers smile in my direction. It's because I walk with confidence and initiate eye contact first, usually nodding to everybody who walks by. On the other hand when i'm having a bad anxious day strangers avoid me like the plague and look away immediately.

      >tl;dr
      this is more of a vibe thing than an attractive thing

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Homie, idk how to explain to you that vibe is an ASPECT of attractiveness and that by being confident and friendly you ARE attractive. Congratulations, now go have a lovely day, idiot.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You ask random women you see on the street if they find you attractive or not

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah, asking women about what they like is a near guarantee of getting a wrong answer

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    women don't look at you or pretend you don't exist
    or when they do look at you they scowl or give you disapproving facial expressions

    no amount of muscle can make up for autism, an ugly face, or being short

    lord help you if you have a combo of the above, I truly feel sorry for you

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m 5’7 and diagnosed with clinical autism. Is it over?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        not necessarily but life will be harder for you

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        bulk hard, go spelunking, collect rocks and marry 4'11 semi legal chink. They are all autistic, so they won't notice.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Me too

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        women are also autistic (all of them) so you may have an easier time

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      being a man isnt about being pretty, that is for fags and women. attractiveness as a male is a cumulative thing. being masculine, dominating the things you want to do, being confident etc is what you need to be attractive. women dont look at men like men look at women. obviously you can be so deformed that people find looking at you abrasive, but its more likely that you just hate yorself and have low self esteem/value and you look at yourself in a far worse light than necessary

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hate yorself and have low self esteem/value and you look at yourself in a far worse light than necessary
        how the hell do I fix this?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      they dont pretend I dont exist
      and if I look they look at me with what I guess is curiosity. They open their eyes wide and just look at me

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      then make money and have muscle. Women are more attracted to status than facial structure.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do u know if you are not rich

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I notice when I clean up and dress better people are way nicer to me

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you have to ask you're average looking

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you know if you're unattractive?
    When you need to make a thread asking this

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How do you know if you're unattractive?
    you're on IST

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're literally invisible to women, and the moment they take a glance at you they glare with utter contempt

    t. it's me

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kids will tell you outright, to your face. You usually work it out pretty quickly once you start going to school.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I ugly? I’d say I’m 4/10

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Add 1 if you are uncircumcised, -1 if you are cut

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m not circumcised

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why are you considering a man's penis aesthetics when rating him you gay

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >cutfag detected

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Justafag detected

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously not, you're just fishing for compliments you know you're not ugly. Or this isn't you.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m literally an Incel

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          based

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think it’s pretty cringe honestly

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I'm good looking and haven't gotten laid in a long time either, we exist. You could easily get laid if you tried you're like model tier 8/10, the fact you think you are 4/10 is insane. You must have some really bad insecurity issues you need to work on, get a therapist. I had the same issue but I did shrooms and it fixed it for the most part.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t even really know how to speak or meet women. I’m trying to join clubs in college and stuff like that, hopefully it helps

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              You should read the books "Models" by Mark Manson and "No More Mr. Nice Guy" by Robert Glover. They helped me with my social skills and talking to women a lot, especially Models, it's a book every guy should read.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve heard about the no more mr nice guy book, I’ll try and give it a read sometime. Thanks for the suggestion

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ve heard about the no more mr nice guy book, I’ll try and give it a read sometime. Thanks for the suggestion

                Robert glover is married to a SEAgull, he's purple-pill at best. His book is pretty good though, it's freely available. Good starter book and reference material.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Ruminate on being ugly
          >Talk about being "incel" to drive home how hideous you are
          >Ask for feedback on your looks, secretly hoping for good news
          >People tell you that you're attractive
          >Enjoy being reassured
          >Repeat

          You're acting like a binge eater, except with compliments on your looks from other men instead of food. Which makes you gay.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mens ratings of attractiveness don’t matter because I want women. Guys can say I look good but I’m still an Incel anyways so nothing has changed. I just don’t know what to do to meet new people and form proper relationships or even have hookups

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          basado

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous
    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you look about two steps away from being a sissy bottom

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        How come?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You just have to take care of your appearance and fashion and you'll be fine.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are a 0/10 if you need validation from other males because you lack confidence.
      There are guys that are ugly as sin that have a wife and 3 kids. Grow up.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know but how? I’ve tried to join local clubs like boxing, I’m joining a college club today too. I’ve tried using dating apps with no success because I don’t have women to talk to in person. How do I meet women and get relationships and sex?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I went to a college club today for the first time it was the worst experience. There were three people there and both were more retarded than me. To be fair it was a karate class but it’s the only thing I can go to. How else can I reach out to people?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Try meet or spontacts. There are in person dating events. Travel with a group.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don’t have a group to travel with but I’ll look into this. Would it be weird to turn up alone? I’m also in a small area so there might not be many events but I guess I could travel

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Made a typo, it's meetup not meet.
                I'm not from the US but here there are like travel agencies that do group travels for people around 25 to 35 years old. They mostly do outdoor vacations. Going alone is the point

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the advice I’ll give it a shot

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I asked my wife and she said you look normal enough to date where she wouldn’t be creeped out by you in a bar but it all depends on your personality and reputation and income and if you are eating yourself a 0/10 you’ve already lost if you had the energy girls are looking for you’d rate yourself a 9/10.

      This is coming from a woman

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I guess I could be more confident. I do try to be more outgoing these days. I just have no clue where to meet people. I went to a college club today and it was a complete failure, three people turned up and they were even more retarded than me. I did talk to them a bit though but I ended up leaving after ten minutes since it was boring

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No offense but you look kinda gay.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about me looks gay? The facial expression?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      4'10 holy crap

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        My only hope is stilts or dwarf women

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah you're 5-6/10. You definitely have a better face than the average guy but you're nothing special.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why am I still an Incel? I don’t know how to reach out to women or anything. I’m still in college though. I went to a college club today and it was the most worthless experience of my life there were only three there including myself. Do you have any ideas?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont listen to these crabs youre cute! would be chad if tall.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m 5’7

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      6 depending on height.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        5’7

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about you look directly at the camera in normal lighting while standing up and then we tell you?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You kind of look like me

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      4'10...bro it's not over, it never fucking started

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am average. I think what puts women off me is I live on pizza so I fart a lot and it stinks of rotten egg.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never considered myself that attractive personally. My face is ok I guess, but I'm short. I don't think I'm that ugly, and was never really treated like an ugly person (girls have told me I'm handsome before and people are nice to me). I used an AI face rater app and it rated me as an 8.5. I personally don't think that's accurate but whatever the app says it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I never considered myself that attractive personally
      >posts an ai rater telling him he is "very attractive"

      shut the fuck up humblebragger

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I did that thing and I got 6.99

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/wbqFBUW.png

          I never considered myself that attractive personally. My face is ok I guess, but I'm short. I don't think I'm that ugly, and was never really treated like an ugly person (girls have told me I'm handsome before and people are nice to me). I used an AI face rater app and it rated me as an 8.5. I personally don't think that's accurate but whatever the app says it

          What app is this?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://attractivenesstest.com/

            supposedly an ai face rater

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I got 8.5 you gays

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used my work headshot and got a 6.99 but girls tell me I'm handsome and hit on me all the time. I wouldn't trust that website.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Call of duty incel got over a 6.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used my work headshot and got a 6.99 but girls tell me I'm handsome and hit on me all the time. I wouldn't trust that website.

      Yeah this shit isn’t accurate. I got over an 8 and I have never had a girlfriend. Never had a woman initiate a conversation. It just gives you a random number.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You get reported for sexual harrasment for just talking to a woman/female co-worker

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    People will tell you, if you aren't they won't.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >handsome until I started balding

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My last partner told me there was nothing attractive about me and that she only fucked me as a form or self harm. I 8magine that qualifies.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      sounds like bpd tbh, obviously she wasn't feeling bad when she was fucking you

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno man. I'm just concentrating on preparing my soul for the next life and working on my health.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's so fucking brutal it rings around to hilarious
      >My last partner told me there was nothing attractive about me and that she only fucked me as a form or self harm.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get to 10-16% bodyfat and see how girls treat you. If you get bad vibes from them, you're ugly.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do I look good in a mirror but absolutely awful in photos

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      opposite for me

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your mirror image is flipped horizontally. You are used to seeing your mirror image, so when you see your true image it feels off.
      The reverse is true for other people you interact with, they're used your true image while the mirror one is weird.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    ask how have most women in life treated me?
    Do they shy away from you physically when you come close, do they try to end conversations quickly, do they never start conversations with you? If Yes to all this you are probably ugly.

    If you're just invisible to women you're probably a normal looking dude.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sorry but you're not my type
    >sorry but you're not my type
    >sorry but you're not my type
    >sorry but you're not my type
    >sorry but you're not my type
    >sorry but you're not my type

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least shes honest man, trust me its better than saying yes lets go on date, and then she ghosts you

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        At least they're all honest I guess

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    girls will straight up tell you if you are even in platonic settings without prompting
    t. unattractive

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >legit ugly
    >Big crooked nose, massive forehead
    >But also builtfat, 230lbs 6'2
    >At gym
    >Constantly catch girls glancing at me, and some smile when i catch them or they go past me (around 75% id say)
    >When i start convo for whatever reason they are usually talkative, smile or get visibly shy
    >Had girls legit tell me "you are such handsome young man"
    >And had girls invite me over to their dorm room to sleep over after concert
    >Or had a girl take me to concert as her "bodyguard", we slept in one hotel room and she liked to rest her head on my chest during the show
    >Am autistic af kissless virgin 30yo
    They probably want the big intimidating rapist looking bf

    Yesterday i entered gym and my gymcrush was leaving, she smiled so nicely to me again, i cant take it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      have you tried...talking to them?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What?
        Im a complete stranger

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      uglybastardmoding

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you say about yourself that you look like a rapist? This is exactly the autistic shit that will stop you from having a gf. Try to see the world, and yourself, like a normal person

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >6' 1, handsome, attractive, but autistic and severely socially retarded
    >only ask out 8s or above
    >never get rejected for a first date or a number
    >go on 2-3 dates
    >be really awkward on said dates and through text
    >eventually they stop talking to me
    >mfw

    attractiveness only gets you past the first hurdle. your game that keeps them wanting to see you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Opposite for me, I have no clue how to hit on women. Even asking them out, I have no clue what to do. I don't think I've ever asked a girl out in my life.
      But occasionally I get hyper aggressive women who will ask me out first. Then we date, then the relationship becomes too exhausting, then they freak out or threaten suicide when I try to break up with them, and it's a whole ordeal.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        to be completely honest, i have no clue on how to hit on them either. all I have done is i just asked them for their number and at a later date said "lets get something to eat".

        usually the first dates end with making out which they have initiated but i never know when and how to escalate. for me they either end up no longer talking to me because i am extremely awkward and unable to initiate physical contact which eventually comes across as 'boring' to them or I unknowingly say or do something that is rude to them that makes them think i am a bad person (which is amplified even more because of my looks).

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll try that number and let's get something to eat line lol. I guess that's what girls always did with me, seems easy enough.

          Escalation is not too tricky once you get used to it, just push and pull. If you're making out with her, grab her ass. If she doesn't like that, she'll move your hand off, if she wants something else, maybe she'll put your hand there, or she'll just tell you. If she's good, you just keep going. It sounds autistic like this, but you just gradually go like that.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            my friend taught me the get something to eat line haha. he literally took my phone and texted her that and told me to copy paste so i can use it again lol.

            i'll keep your push/pull thing in mind, thanks!

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          looks don't matter for a man. i as well as plenty of my friends are ugly/mediocre looking but we can still get girls by just playing along with their games

          look outside, very little people are 'attractive' but are walking around with good looking women

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            100% of the time the people you call "ugly" or "mediocre" are way more attractive than you think and the girls you supposedly get are way less attractive than you think.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I get hyper aggressive women who will ask me out first. Then we date, then the relationship becomes too exhausting, then they freak out or threaten suicide
        sounds like you are getting BPD chicks. Be aware that when a women is pursuing you aggressively that is a red flag that she might be bpd/cluster b. Those types tend to pursue men more aggressively. No, not all women that pursue you aggressively are liek that. But bpds tend to be like that.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Out with friends
    >See mate talk to 2 girls
    >Approach them to say hi
    >As I approach them one of them rolls her eyes
    >The 2 girls make eye contact and one subtly shakes her head
    >The other one takes a step back

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >had you had girls ask you to be their boyfriend in your teens, send you notes in class
    >do girls look at you?
    >do they approach you?
    >do they stare you straight in the eyes when talking to you?
    >touch you in the arm/lap when talking to you?
    >contact you first
    >ask you on a date
    >try to kiss you
    101 rules of attraction, if none of that happens , then congrats you're unattractive, not ugly, just unattractive.

    If you're ugly then they will make fun of you with her girlfriends or boyfriend Chad.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >caring if people think you're attractive
    this is a trap

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I literally need to print this out and put it on every wall of my apartment + as my phone's lock and home screen.

      I care way too much about shit I shouldn't care at all... and triple the normal amount about things I should care about.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    My crush said it loud and clear in highschool
    Also a girl once asked me why my sister looked good while I didn't

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    be a khhv at 30

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am
      it's over

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        me too bro

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'll probably get told eventually if you really are
    If you're good looking the people comfortable and closest to you will tell you outright or even subtly
    Going off how people react to you when you walk by is retarded. I'm friends with Chads who don't get oohed and awed every time they walk by a group of girls. People keep to themselves or look forward and tell their friends that you're hot

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    From the front my face look human, but from the side I look like a goblin. I think I could pull a Ted Bundy cause I look different on every single picture that's taken of me

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How accurate is photofeeler?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      subtract -2 from each score and it will be more accurate

  36. 4 months ago
    Shamrock /fit/ server : https://discord.gg/jeFxG8qy

    Walk around your gym and ask every woman if they find you attractive or not. Track your results with a pen and clipboard. Once you’ve talked to every woman in your gym you’ll finally know the truth.

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not making this up. This happened about a month or two ago. I was commuting to my uni from bus as always and there were a lot of empty seats. I was somehwere in the middle row and there was a empty seat beside me. There was a guy in the front of me, and beside him was also an empty seat, he looked like he had quite good looking hair, stylish I'd say but I didnt see his face. A girl comes in and she's looking for a seat, she initially came right beside my seat and then deadass went in the front row where that guy was and sat down. That day my confidence shattered into pieces and I realized I was ugly and repulsive probably. Am i reading too much into this or am I real ugly?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      > That day my confidence shattered into pieces

      From a minimal, non verbal interaction with a stranger

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >consider myself at least moderately attractive
    >being horribly out of shape for all my life gives -5 debuff
    >can flirt with girls on the internet, but not IRL because IRL they can see me
    >finally got a gym membership
    AS SOON AS I FINALLY BREAK MY POOR COPING HABITS AND GET IN SHAPE ITS OVER FOR YOU BITCHES

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always get strange vibes from women, like they'd love to ridicule me but are afraid to do actually it. I'm decently IST but bald and ugly as shit.

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >massive garden gnome nose
    >entire face droops to one side
    >incel jawline
    >discolored skin above lip, looks like a permanent 5 o'clock shadow
    I don't know how to cope

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Quasimodomaxx

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        this is a good choice
        >t. deformed warlockmaxxer

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Christ my eyes do look exactly like his.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Become ugly hot.

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you are insecure, you are unattractive, that's honestly all there is to it. Confidence and enthusiasm is top-tier attractiveness. It's easy to see- have you ever met an ugly-ish girl but she's just incredibly fun and you just find yourself attracted to them? It's almost always because they were confident and come off as such.
    Same with dudes. Jack Black in a vacuum would come off as as physically unattractive person, but the amount of women who would marry him and have his babies is astronimcal. Why? Because he's a confident and funny dude, that's it.
    The new kids are disconnected from that concept because they interact mostly through virtual means. Humans devote a VERY large percentage of their subconscious brain to perceiving other human's body language, slight facial changes, tone in conversation, etc, and synthesizing the information to form a concept of who that person is. Without the human-to-human interaction, you remove all possible sense of if that person is attractive or not except through physical pictures, essentially, and so younger folks tend to weigh physical attraction very heavily when considering what is attractive- but the truth is, real attraction is all about confidence.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just be confident bro
      >inb4 fake it till you make it

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly don’t know.

    I’m 20 and in uni. I’ve had 2 objectively hot girlfriends in my life when I was 17 and 18. But for the past two years I’ve gotten hardly any attention from attractive girls. I’ve asked out average girls and gotten rejected every time. Girls that I thought were below me in looks. I don’t understand how I managed to previously have two attractive girlfriends when I was a bit younger and now can’t even get an average one to give me a chance. That’s why I now have doubts about how attractive I really am. I used to be two under par now I can’t get on the green.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you got those girls in High School, in person, probably living in some smaller place. Now you're in a big city competing with the cream of the crop men.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because you got those girls in High School, in person, probably living in some smaller place. Now you're in a big city competing with the cream of the crop men.

      nailed it

      Women are attracted to the top x% men. In a school of a few hundred, being smart, not fat, and having a good reputation might have been enough to put you in the top x% of men. Now you are competing against dudes who have been lifting for a decade, guys who have 42 interesting hobbies, guys who come from rich families, etc. There is what appears to be an endless pool of men, which leaves women with the idea that there is something better out there.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        why are you americans so obsessed with hobbies like what do you even mean
        train models?
        men here mostly work, watch football, play football

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Many people I know don't really have hobbies. They work, watch netflix, scroll insta and meet their friends. Getting deeper than surface level into something cost time and money. I guess most people don't want to invest that

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm still fucking working at 8 pm and started at 9 am how am I supposed to dig deep into anything else other than alcohol
            which I don't btw

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sport is a hobby unless you're doing it to a competitive level professionally homie. If you're just stressed about not having a model train set to talk about when they ask you can just say you lift 🙂

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >grow my hair out for shits n gigs
    >hang out with girl friend, drink a bit, meet one of her friends
    >end of the night, friend gushes at me and says how gorgeous my eyes are and how pretty I am
    >calls me a FEMBOY
    >friend joins in gushing over me
    >show them a picture of me with shorter hair
    >you've gone from chad to femboy
    >flex my bicep at them and say but I have muscle
    >they laugh
    >tell me I can get any woman I wanted
    >mfw, both flattered and mortified

    think I might get a haircut, I guess to answer your question shit like this happens

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >might get a haircut
      are you rarted? That's literally the dream.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        how is being perceived as a muscly femboy the fucking dream my guy, it was weird, as I was walking to hers in the city I walked past some guys and one of them mockingly went ''OOooooooo'' and then a random young homeless woman stopped me out of all the people and commented on my arms and my face, think she wanted money, didnt stop

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    People just tell you if you're attractive enough
    >grow up in a poor rural community
    >super autistic and no idea how to dress myself, extremely skinny and have a shitty hair cut
    >go to college and get compliments from women about my cheek bones
    >girls start hitting on me but still don't think much of it
    >get into lifting and gain 30lbs, mainly muscle
    >more girls hitting on me
    >actually had a girl crawl in my bed and kept asking me to have sex with her
    >just stayed on my laptop and browsed here
    My first, and only, gf actually asked me out because she thought I was hot

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why does autism fucks us over so much? I don't know what other people expect and want. On the other side I lack the creativity to imagine what could be and make it happen

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an issue with social situations so that's why

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's an issue with social situations so that's why

        It doesn't, recent studies show that Autism is caused by an enlargement of the Amygdala during infancy
        You're not bad at social situations because of your Autism but because you were forced into closing yourself off from the world as a coping mechanism since every sound/smell/touch felt like it was killing you as a 1-2 year old

        Everyone without development disorders learned to hadnle social situations naturally so, unlike let's say math, it was never thought by your parents/school
        In truth you can just learn to not be Autistic kek, i did it trough observation+practice but am also quite gifted, talk to a behavioral therapist and ask them this exact question, they should know how to apply exposure therapy even if they don't know your exact problems

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >actually had a girl crawl in my bed and kept asking me to have sex with her
      what the fuck how hot are you

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've unironically been called a 10 by multiple women but I've done nothing with it at all. Like I said I've only had the one gf and she's the only woman I ever slept with.

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do people like you for no apparent reason?
    Do women smile at you?

    If not, then I can inform you that it's OVER.

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Think I look average or slightly above average when growing up
    >By age 21 something clicks and I realize I'm ugly as shit
    >Hate life for years
    >Start falling for every lookism/self improvement meme there is
    >It's not enough
    >I start ranting about Chad to a girl and how girls only want him
    >"Dude, you are Chad"
    >It's not enough
    >Go to a bar and a guy I meet asks me why I'm not approaching any girls because he can tell they're attracted to me
    >It's not enough
    >Girl with big ass in the gym walks up and asks for my number
    >It's not enough

    My plastic surgery consultation is in December
    Hopefully that'll be enough

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You need a therapist

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Think I look average or slightly above average when growing up
        >By age 21 something clicks and I realize I'm ugly as shit
        >Hate life for years
        >Start falling for every lookism/self improvement meme there is
        >It's not enough
        >I start ranting about Chad to a girl and how girls only want him
        >"Dude, you are Chad"
        >It's not enough
        >Go to a bar and a guy I meet asks me why I'm not approaching any girls because he can tell they're attracted to me
        >It's not enough
        >Girl with big ass in the gym walks up and asks for my number
        >It's not enough

        My plastic surgery consultation is in December
        Hopefully that'll be enough

        No he needs girlfriend unironically would fix his problems.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >plastic surgery
      this'll make u an uggo for sure

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      dont do it anon its enough you can rest

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >My plastic surgery consultation is in December
      dude don't

      u'll look bogged for the rest of your life

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bogged

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've never been called ugly
    I've been called cute and handsome by different women as well as my male friends
    Still a virgin

    >so this is the power of autism and social anxiety

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      many such cases, anon, many such cases

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me, fat my whole life, super round face, mouth breather physiognomy, stutterer, autistic (probably, nah definitely)
    >super awkward around everyone
    >had friends but they were assholes and I was a lolcow
    >get gf, she was cute but I was super insecure the whole relationship, she ended up cheating on me after I blew up to 275
    >we break up, decide to improove, I lose weight to 190 pounds, got some muscles too now
    >weight loss reveals chad facial structure, nice jawline, good cheekbones etc
    >women showing more interest sometimes, I have a very stern and mean looking face I’m told
    >don’t know how to talk to people and they get weirded out and act like I’m a creeper
    A tale as old as time on /fit

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can girls detect autism or something?
    I'm taller and physically mog all my friends but they all get more pussy than me

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Use tinder

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be me a few months ago
    >6 foot 220 lbs (a fat fuck), long, flat hair and shit taste in clothing
    >be me now
    >lose 66 lbs, style my hair (so it's not longer glued to my head) and have much better taste in clothing
    >have high self-esteem thinking i'm a twink
    >be me a few days ago
    >take a picture of myself (possibly one of the best)
    >look ugly but decide to ask other people for opinion anyway
    >get a reality check and realize i've always been ugly
    i have nothing to live for

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think I have a problem with getting girls interested in me
    I do have a problem doing something about it

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The truth is, most guys aren't attractive. Not necessary unattractive, but just plain. If you're an attractive guy, you'd likely be very aware of it by now unless you're a total shut-in. If you're attractive,

    >people will just outright tell you
    >it'd be treated as a known, obvious fact that you're attractive by your friends
    >it'd be unusual for you to go out to a bar or a club and not have girls clearly interested in you

    The other side of this is that women tend to be into like an overall look or vibe rather than the male version which solely looks at the face or whatever. You can lean into this by being a 'type of guy' and doing that really well.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    a kid calls you ugly

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Idk stop worrying about lookism redpill theory dumbshit. Get a job, don't be fat or a loser and you will get a girl. Most men are slobs stop overthinking it

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hypermasc here
    Usually I can just do whatever I want, I’m also 6’4
    I’m not conventionally handsome like the new kids on the block that actually get girls for being feminine (which is cringe but it works)
    However I have been described as ruggedly attractive
    And since I don’t have to play the “sensitive “ card, I don’t have to try, giving shorter responses to girls, usually just holding eye contact and making them look away because they’re intimidated by me is enough,
    Women want a big, masculine dude, and once you turn 25 and above, the hypermasc begins to run the show.
    I might not be able to get super petite 18 year olds anymore unless they have a daddy fetish, but in the end women do fantasize about a HYPER MASC to lead them in life.
    I do miss some of those teen girls, but I had my time
    When I was 18-25, I fucked Over 140 girls of all attractions, including fatties and whores
    Now though, I’ve stopped caring entirely and women notice, they can tell I have nothing to gain, nor lose and this makes them attracted to me
    Have sex, incels

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      this guy here
      act like you don't care or are inconvenienced, or just listen to them and figure out what the point of their message is, and from there decipher if its worth your brain capacity
      don't show enthusiasm unless you find a worthy fo
      I've had girls hold doors open for me and continusouly get in my way, and they say shit like sorry, but when they see my dead fucking eye stare at them, as if i'm judging them for their stupidity, they feel at fault and embaressed and they actually smile and spill their spagetti, this works on even the hottest girls.
      try it, if you feel like you're working too hard in conversations
      you see this will change you into the hypermasc faster.

      >act like you don't care or are inconvenienced
      6'4 can get away with shit a 5'8 can't

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Try imagining yourself as the big man, and then display that attitude, it will boost your self esteem.
        Or find some way to handle these interactions that works for you.
        I used to spill my spahgetti all the time from caving in these conversations until i realised that eye contanct, saying something relevant, and body posture and how comfortable you look is more important. Litterally just stand there and make yourself comfortable, don't even worrry about speaking, if you have to say nothing, say nothing. once you get comfortable then maybe open up slightly. its way more important to be comfortable with your bodylanguage before your actual language and they translate into each other.
        i wish i knew this earlier, bro

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        this guy here
        act like you don't care or are inconvenienced, or just listen to them and figure out what the point of their message is, and from there decipher if its worth your brain capacity
        don't show enthusiasm unless you find a worthy fo
        I've had girls hold doors open for me and continusouly get in my way, and they say shit like sorry, but when they see my dead fucking eye stare at them, as if i'm judging them for their stupidity, they feel at fault and embaressed and they actually smile and spill their spagetti, this works on even the hottest girls.
        try it, if you feel like you're working too hard in conversations
        you see this will change you into the hypermasc faster.

        don't do the "I don't desire you" thing, you will look even more like a virgin

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          moron

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          how does this "I don't desire you" thing even work

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            basically incels are afraid of approaching women and being rejected, so they pretend to be aloof and disinterested

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess after a while we just act cold to everyone because it's what we're used to.

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Girls recoil when they make eye contact with you.

  58. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    should I just pay a hooker to teach me how to fuck a woman
    I mean in my country when someone got to a certain age, an uncle or grandpa would take him tona trusted whore to teach him love, this was before ww2

  59. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    > mixed reactions growing up. Called ugly and attractive
    > being a minority in a predominately white country
    > negative comments and racism always stuck with me
    > 18, started working a restaurant job
    > getting girls was incredibly easy. Slept with most co-workers
    > would have one night stands about once a month with girls from random parties and bars
    > 90% of girls always made the first move. Had crippling insecurities so I was always too shy to approach anyone
    > all ex gfs made the first move
    > fast forward to now, 35, no gf and still insecure
    > look for validation on dating and image rating apps

    Wtf am I doing. Apparently I'm good looking but I've never had the confidence. Feels like I've wasted so much time. Still struggling with issues.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      please redeem sir

  60. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have women told you that you were handsome/hot/cute? Relatives dont count

  61. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly r8 face out of 10 it will probably get worse once my hair really starts to go, but id says I'm average for now. My results would disagree though.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      go high and tight, (try to)care less, trust.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You look great btw anon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kek, you're not ugly dude, stop worrying about it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you look like you're taking a shit, loosen up a little and get a buzzcut and you'll look great bro

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're a 10/10

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      weak chin

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you look kind of like a pudgy chud, and kind of pretty good, lose some weight and get a better haircut. also wipe that gormless look off your face

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      With a shorter haircut you would look pretty handsome
      No homo tho

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you got serial killer eyes anon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      what earbuds are they?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        JAB earbuds?

        https://i.imgur.com/jbjBYq6.jpg

        honestly r8 face out of 10 it will probably get worse once my hair really starts to go, but id says I'm average for now. My results would disagree though.

  62. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Am I ugly? No I'm not underage

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very. Even for a non white.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn. Anything I can do to look slightly better?

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nose job. Lip reduction. Fix those toad eyes.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            How would I fix toad eyes? Also for the nose and lips I think I'll just remain ugly not worth the hassle

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      average

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Grow more your facial hair get a buzz cut and you're good to go

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you look like that one guy in our class that i hate so much

  63. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You just know

  64. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The best indicator is when moms let's their kids say hi to you

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. If kids approach and talk to you in general you are attractive. Kids have no sense of human decency and social normality so when they see someone unattractive they very clearly will be uncomfortable and avoidant.

  65. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Body type that woman in my country find to be the worst. Thin arms, slim, full ottermode and all, absolute 0/10
    >Screwed up with so many setups meeting with female friends from my old college crew, last woman did a number on me that i fucked up so bad that i just went isolated to get my shit together
    >Havent talked to a woman ever since
    >Borderline sociopath at this point

    I just cant fucking take it man im already early 20s and i just cant get around it, i want to get under and over the fact that its was over before even started but threads like this one always get me. I dont understand why i cant just leave it like that but no, i always ends up thinking about im so fucking lonely its unreal

  66. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >At friends wedding (I'm in a suit and look about as good as is possible for me)
    >Order drink (open bar)
    >Look over next to me at two chicks
    >Say "sup" acknowledging thier presence not really hitting on them
    >Girl 1:"you wanna talk to my friend" and darts off
    >Girl 2"no he doesn't" pauses for a second as she realizes Girl 1 fled
    >Girl 2 flees
    >Bartender holding turns around holding two drinks and ask where they went
    >I musta scared them off ha-ha
    Not only were they scared/disgusted of me while surrounded by friends and family, girl 1 also totally threw her friend under what she perceived to be a bus.

  67. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The better question would be, in case you weren't what are you gonna do about it?
    Improve on your body, take a shower, learn how to dress properly and most importantly embrace who you are.

  68. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Attractive is such a nebulous concept I wouldn’t even worry about it. For me:
    >was a KHV until 22, thought I was ugly. Despite this I had girls hit on me all the time and I just never realised it. Became a fuckboy and slayed
    >wear my glasses and girls aren’t as attracted
    >wear my contacts and they are
    >dress like a homeless bum, nobody cares. Dress up, eyes everywhere
    >get fatter, less attention. Get leaner, more

    If you care about this stuff you should get a good frame and be lean (don’t need to be anywhere near as built as fitizens), dress well, find a hairstyle that fits your face, learning skincare, sleep well, speak slowly and with confidence, be outgoing and happy with etc. These things can improve your ‘looks’ by 1-4 points. Btw most ‘average’ men have bloated and fat faces they could be chads if they cut.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >glasses
      For the life of me I can't get contacts in. My closing reflex is so strong.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've had a nurse use both hands to try and keep my eyelid open to insert a contact. She couldn't do it.

        Then she told me to wash my hands, touch my eyeball with my finger a couple of times a day to get over the reflex.

        That's when I decided I was gonna stick with glasses my whole life. Funnily enough, I've had women tell me I look attractive, even with the glasses.

  69. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >alright looking
    >confident and talkative normally
    >friendly guy around women
    >nervous wreck when doing trying to ask them out or thinking of anything romantic related
    I call it the Johnny Bravo effect, I keep telling myself to man up and normalize it but I get very nervous when I actually try it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can work on anxiety though. Ig you do that you are all set.

      This helped me in dark moments and got recommended to me on here. I also bought the anxiety and phobia workbook. Going through it currently and realized some stuff about me that seems so obvious in hindsight

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