how do you refute pic related?

how do you refute pic related?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not difficult. Fasting with calisthenics will get that mode in probably half a year.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      you literally can't

      I did exactly that. it gets you nowhere. lift weights.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        You need to do weighted calisthenics, a.k.a pull ups with at least 10kgs/22lbs+

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/JYrXyOD.jpg

      how do you refute pic related?

      you can get that body in a year if you already have that amount and distribution of muscle, under a layer of fat

      you can't get that body in a year if you need to actually build the muscle to get there. and you won't get that exact physique because there's a genetic component to it.

      which is all besides the point because in a year of eating right and lifting you will still look a lot better than whatever skinnyfat dyel abomination you are right now

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't, it's honestly very true. You can achieve that in a year if you put in consistent effort, it's just that the majority of the population lacks that level of discipline and restraint.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're honestly very lame.

      Now go read the sticky.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      that wasn't the question anon. did YOU achieve it in a year?

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    read the sticky.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mirin traps

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    If an individual with above average genetics follows a good hypertrophy program with a lean bulk, he'll have more muscle than OP in about 6 months. Most guys here (I assume) have been lifting longer than that and I don't think they'll want to lose muscle mass to get to ottermode.

    Besides ottermode is for guys with a natural V taper anyway, broad shoulders, narrow waist and lanky frame. Guys that don't have this would benefit from proportioning out their physique with more muscle to compensate

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Its funny how this is a goal physique initially for many anons on this board
      But when you have the ability to cut down and obtain this mode your body dysmorphia kicks in
      >oh god I weigh nothing now
      >im weak now
      >jesus i look small in shirts
      So you keep bulking and cutting and then you might even over do it

      You can’t. Absolutely zero people will post their physiques after writing that shit. The guy is unironically on gear too. It’s always fucking retards who have never done a cycle and don’t look 1/100th as good as that who think that’s natty. Also this
      Most of the time when you ARE willing and capable of doing what it takes to get there you won’t just stop there. You’ll inevitably want to get bigger. Which is why you only usually see guys like that in their early 20s

      You forget: eating is a fucking chore and to get bigger you gotta eat more, and compared to otter mode vs. bigger you're again going to have to eat more just to maintain. Mental fatsos will want to keep going, which is probably at least 80% of anons who love food too much.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      i'm skinnyfat that wants to achieve ottermode, but after just doing basic stuff for one day my body is very sore the rest of the week when it only should be max 2 days, it is fucking annoying. i can't take it anymore bros

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        stretch everyday. Work out on workout days even if sore, each time you will be less sore. It's normal to be sore after starting a new activity /lift.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its funny how this is a goal physique initially for many anons on this board
    But when you have the ability to cut down and obtain this mode your body dysmorphia kicks in
    >oh god I weigh nothing now
    >im weak now
    >jesus i look small in shirts
    So you keep bulking and cutting and then you might even over do it

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can’t. Absolutely zero people will post their physiques after writing that shit. The guy is unironically on gear too. It’s always fucking retards who have never done a cycle and don’t look 1/100th as good as that who think that’s natty. Also this
      Most of the time when you ARE willing and capable of doing what it takes to get there you won’t just stop there. You’ll inevitably want to get bigger. Which is why you only usually see guys like that in their early 20s

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        lol the guy in op is not on gear, that's just playing a sport or two with alright genetics

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok post body.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    omad, carb backloading, snake diet, supplemaxxing, super male vitality, lifting, calisthenics for 2 years

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post body
      I want to see what is the result of this

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        me too
        just started 5 days ago

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          quads

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit. you just can't help but CONSOOOMMMMM can you ?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >weed

      HAH
      GAYYYYYYYY

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kys weedoid

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This image is so psychotic that I had to download it kek

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not very realistic to expect anybody to not miss a single workout, don't get injured, have a perfect diet year round etc.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Borate is in almost all vegetables.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't eat vegetables, i eat powder
        no room in stomach for leafs on omad

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The soil is depleted in a lot of the world.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >eat bowl of spinach, don't feel shit
        >eat 1/8tsp epsom salt, feel something
        see

        The soil is depleted in a lot of the world.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    i did back in the day
    giving pectus brehs have some hope as well

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      is it even possible to escape the lovehandles?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      built for BBC

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    by achieving that body in a year. all i lack is the tan, and i can't be assed tbh

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I looked like that, then bulked again and switched to compound lifts because I didn't like having no chest.

    still got old pictures.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it just me or is your torso abnormally long

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        it is, but this is not that weird where I'm from, fairly common in north sea coast phenotypes.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you think that's weird, he's actually standing on the toilet in taking this picture.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't have a toilet upstairs, been pissing in the sink for years, lol.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      unironically my goal body

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        you'll get there, but you'll probably feel the same way I did once you're there.

        I worked on my chest, traps and back after that, and my shoulders got a bit rounder.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          hohleee fuck im miriin

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            nice quads.

            anyway I was skinnyfat at some point too.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fuarrrrrrk mirin

          hohleee fuck im miriin

          Satan get

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Looking good senpai

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do you stay lean year-round or do you do bulk/cut cycles?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I can maintain my current level of leanness year round but I have been bulking during the winter because I don't gain much strength or size without it anymore, not sure yet what I'm going to do this winter, I have some strength goals that I want to reach but they are fairly unrealistic.

            Bro,I think I have seen you before, did you use to post on misc and post workout videos?Or I could be confusing you with that dude everyone said looked like prometheus

            I've been posting here for a long ass time, and on IST in the plant threads.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              How do you maintain it? Just get to low bf% and eat at maintainance? How foes that affect your gains in the gym?
              Also, what are you squat/bench/DL etc?
              I want to keep that leanness as well but I'm trying to gigure out how to keep that low consistently and still make gains. Any tips?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't track calories or macros, so I just check on the scale every now and then and eat less if there's any change, or more, my diet mostly consists out of the same things every day so while I don't really know how much it is in exact numbers I've got a rough idea of how much I should be eating.

                I don't make much progress on maintenance anymore, at most I can add another rep to sets once in a while, after I've added a few reps to each set I can usually bring the reps back down and add more weight.

                >what are you squat/bench/DL etc?

                I don't squat or bench, here's my program

                [...]

                I am fairly strong for my weight though, here's a 160kg paused floor press.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What lifts? Height? Weight?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was only doing core focused bodyweight (jack knife situps, bicycle crunches, mountain climbers, planks, side planks, etc) and basic dumbbell movements such as floor flyes, lateral raises, hammer curls, and reverse flyes back then.

        think I was like 160lbs at best at 6'2.

        I'm 190lbs now.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro,I think I have seen you before, did you use to post on misc and post workout videos?Or I could be confusing you with that dude everyone said looked like prometheus

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only thing difficult about that body is cutting that low, most of us like getting stronger and eating big but cutting for a few months and working out while your lifts go down every session fucking sucks.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    lifting for 4 years

    give me 10 weeks of cutting and i will mog the living shit out him

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's always gonna depend on your starting point. I was fit all my life and competed in track, I looked like that maybe 6 months after lifting but I also had like 15 years of consistent training already, just not with weights or the intention to build bigger muscles. Had I been completely sedentary I don't know how long it would have taken. The starting point can make so much of a difference, just think about similar threads where someone asks "how long to get to this?" and it's a guy that is 6'0, 180lbs at 10% bf. That's nothing too crazy but imagine you are starting as a 6'0, 140lbs skelly at similar body fat, you have to gain 40 lbs of actual muscle tissue to get there and it's going to take years. Someone else might be slightly overweight but carry more muscle naturally and get there in half the time of training.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slightly overweight making it faster than a skinnyfat
      What?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How is someone skinnyfat at 140lbs and 10% bf. If you are 200lbs at 25% bf you carry 25lbs more LBM than the skinny guy.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Okay I'll rephrase then, you sperg

          >slightly overweight making it faster than a skelly
          What?

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, easily. Say they gain muscle at the same rate but the overweight guy has to gain 25lbs less LBM, he will have accumulated the muscle necessary in a much shorter time and since weight loss is much faster than gaining muscle he will get to the goal earlier.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              What's the deal with loose skin in this situation?

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you're not obese and you don't starve yourself to lose weight you won't have any loose skin at all.

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like I have tried most than most anons here(24yo)
    A few years ago went balls to wall extremely low kcal,extreme cardio,didnt look good at all,went from fat to frail skinny fat,in fact I was weaker.
    I have tried tons of times ,now Im at my peak success mainly because I improve and I MAINTAIN those little improvements.
    They key IMO is going SLOW,lose weight SLOW,gain muscle SLOW, seriously, better for it to take 2 or 3 years than NEVER or going back and forth and not arriving anywhere like I did multiple tiems before.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      is that you?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do you refute pic related?
    keep your mouth shut and grind until you achieve aethetics
    check em

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Test

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Estrogen

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Add "with good genetics" or "with gear" to any of these posts and they make sense.A skinnyfat or a skinny dude with shit genetics won't achieve that in less than a year

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    literally the distinction that 99 percent of people IST included cannot comprehend is how pictures do not represent reality. pump and lighting will always make you look 4x more muscular than you are. anyt picture taken in a dark room with severe lighting contrast and a very particularly chosen shooting angle while flexing will never in any circumstance be an accurate reflection of with a guy looks like 99.99 percent of the time. this guy with no pump, in a relaxed pose, without severe lighting, probably does not even look like he has ever been inside a gym. this fact will always fly over everyones head. so the group who decides that this is actually a casual non pumped non lighting frauded pic will always bicker with the people who know to discredit carefully curated pics like this, insisting that this is an un pumped normal pic that accurately represents this guys physique. people look at their own bodies and arent even aware of how much they could lightfraud and anglefaud and pump fraud in a picture they take of themselves, even a dyel with a tiny bit of muscle can look like this, briefly, especially while leaning foreward so hard.

    pay attention to fucking shadows and angles in pictures you stupid fuckers. every picture you see of some gay trying to look hot for instagram likes is a curated pic, a carefully chosen angle with severe lighting and does not even represent what they look like almost at all. you can assume that every pic you see is someone desperately trying to alter their look so they can whore more attention. you probably DID achieve this physique in a year, but dont realize that without a spray tan and specific camera techniques youlls always look like shit compared to this fake photo.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, anglefrauding is the key to making natties look like roiders, and roiders to look superhuman. David Laid is a very good example of this. That said, flexing and posing is fine for /cbt/, photos edited beyond face blur is woman-tier

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        agreed.

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    it's not about having this much muscle or that low body fat
    it's all about having the wow factor, good jaw/chin, big traps, thick neck, narrow waist and hips
    99% of people will never acheive that look even if they are more shredded and jacked than this dude

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever made that image was a seething fatass or skinnyfat, take your pick.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      being skinnyfat is truly a curse. compared to being fat

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 7 months in, I'm just a cut away from that body but summer is over and I don't want to compromise my gains by cutting.

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shut up and grind. Let the witness your sculpted flesh.

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