How does Weed affect your gains? The only thing so far that negatively affects me is the lack of REM sleep.

How does Weed affect your gains? The only thing so far that negatively affects me is the lack of REM sleep.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pros
    >feels good
    >makes boredom feel fun
    >relaxing
    >things feel better, food tastes better, music sounds better, etc
    >no hangover (generally)
    >wears off quickly (generally)

    cons
    >easy to get addicted to because "it's not actually addictive bro!!!"
    >makes boredom feel fun
    >constant relaxation = complacency
    >easy to abuse while still being functional
    >easy to hit a point where you function worse sober because you get so used to being high

    I smoke every day pretty much all day, but I also lift every day, take care of my uni work before smoking, and have an easy wfh job so I'm not just lulling about stoned out of my mind.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Former weed addict here, this anon is spot on. It's an easy trap to fall into because it does make feeling bored not so boring, which can lead to a lot of complacency. Some people like him might be able to balance it out, but some people like me just stay high 24/7 while using and are not the type who should partake. All depends on the type of person you are.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      agree with all of these, and i am the productive type like him too

      unfortunately none of my friends seem to be able to handle being productive on weed even with comfy wfh jobs and the like. i learned my parents language to advanced fluency in 3 months (granted i had more of a head start than someone who hasn’t been exposed) stoned out of my mind. see how it affects you.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reefer seems to be bad for the brain but mostly pretty neutral to the body. If you wanna use it but you're concerned about hippocampal damage or whatever then drink some green tea with it, the theanine turns out to be massively effective at harm reduction.
    I smoke most days largely because without it food is repulsive to me and I would never make any progress at all (am still a skelly even with the bud).

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Weed literally increases estrogen lowers testosterone and gives you b***h breasts

    I have convinced my stoner friends now they don't smoke anymore

    We are ascended COKE CHADS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can confirm, I got gyno from it and I think milk had something to do with it as well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      nice to hear bro. Don't really hang with my stoner friends anymore, wish I had coke chad brothers to hit the town with and pickup b***hes.
      My stoner friends don't lift weights anymore or want to go out. Feels bad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >and gives you b***h breasts
      No? If you have a fat turd body, maybe. I've smoked for 13 years and have zero breasts. 5'10, 155lbs, 31 y/o

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >and gives you b***h breasts
      No? If you have a fat turd body, maybe. I've smoked for 13 years and have zero breasts. 5'10, 155lbs, 31 y/o

      6'1, 230 lbs strongfat here. Even if you have a relatively high bodyfat percentage it won't give you fricking gyno. It's the lack of exercise and bad eating habits that might lead you to it. If you have enough willpower to still work out regularly, you gonna be fine. It does amplify certain emotions however. Like 5 years ago when I was a doomer teenager/young adult I should have avoided that shit but now that I got myself together, the downsides feel almost nonexistent. As some other anons pointed out you *can* get addicted to it but quitting that shit is way easier than most of the other substances.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking LOVE drugs which make me lose control or get slugged so I try to stay away from them as much as possible..
    Weed has been great for helping me bulk as I don't really enjoy the act of eating.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was considering using it as a sleep aid so I took 10mg indica gummies for a week on vacation. It's crazy how fast my tolerance went up.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    weed makes you moronic so it affects your brain gains

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I started smoking pot in high school at like 14, I'm 18 now and for sure it's made me dumber.. absolutely DO NOT give weed to kids still going through puberty
    That being said, I managed to find a way to wrest myself from its grip somewhat.. by associating weed with exercise, I heavily tax my weed use by forcing myself to work out at least until I get a good pump going.. Then I stretch out and do all the gay stoner shit (duuude lets watch harold n kumar go to white castle duude).
    I'm absolutely dependent on weed but I have this weird equilibrium where it would frick up my whole routine to be rid of it. Almost like a parasite that both harms you and helps you at the same time.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      symbiosis?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        kind of a symbiosis.. your endocannabinoid receptors get into a "don't feed the ducks" situation... you're feeding it cannabinoids externally so there's no need to produce any naturally, so in turn weed becomes a medicine... though it would be prudent to say that any time you're using a drug, even recreationally, you're medicating yourself.

        Weed makes you gay... No joke. Started smoking weed in high school, habit got bad really quick. Used to do all kinds of degenerate gay shit, even though it felt crazy shameful. Eventually quit weed for health & coincidentally any & all desire to engage in fat shit totally evaporated. I know how it sounds but seriously, I think the whole weed industry is some kind of illuminati pharma psyop to feminize dudes & turn them into gays. If you think about it, the rise of weed correlates with the rise of trannies

        i've heard of this, it can be true.. but in my opinion what weed truly does to you is exacerbate existing problems with yourself.. if you were having gay thoughts before, they get amplified. if you're having depressive thoughts, they get amplified. weed encourages you to give into "senses" and "feelings" more than logic, which leads to mental problems for people. I recognized this problem and solved it by keeping a strict mindset when smoking weed, but it would be better to just stop smoking it.

        Ehh give and take. Used it a lot as cope because it made boredom and life feel a bit better. Peak was when I have sports and would use it to relax the night after. Was never addicted, just used it till I ran out but definitely did some shit to my brain. This. I was going through puberty at the time and it affects developing brains differently then adults.

        your way is probably the optimal way to use it, but I smoke weed pre-workout, gives an insane boost to my lifts. problem is it creates a dependency. When I lift without smoking weed beforehand, I always feel weaker.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ehh give and take. Used it a lot as cope because it made boredom and life feel a bit better. Peak was when I have sports and would use it to relax the night after. Was never addicted, just used it till I ran out but definitely did some shit to my brain. This. I was going through puberty at the time and it affects developing brains differently then adults.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You stop producing endocannabinoinds because you get them externally.
    If you smoke excessively or for a long time you end up depressed, unable to fall asleep, sweating and with a dead libido for a few weeks to months.
    You might get some of these problems while you're smoking weed as well as receptors become less sensitive as the body tries to achieve homeostasis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meant to write "If you smoke excessively or for a long time and quit cold turkey"
      Tapering off might be better if you were a heavy uaer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can confirm. This is part of what feeds into weed turning you into a homosexual. Makes it so prostate stimulation is the only way to get off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Meant to write "If you smoke excessively or for a long time and quit cold turkey"
        Tapering off might be better if you were a heavy uaer

        You stop producing endocannabinoinds because you get them externally.
        If you smoke excessively or for a long time you end up depressed, unable to fall asleep, sweating and with a dead libido for a few weeks to months.
        You might get some of these problems while you're smoking weed as well as receptors become less sensitive as the body tries to achieve homeostasis.

        >wait until he hears what is in olive oil

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >using seed oils
          Made the switch to butter only a while ago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not saying that cannabinoids are bad just that excessive amounts of externally introduced ones cause the body to down regulate for a while.
          It probably won't kill you but it's very unpleasant.

          >using seed oils
          Made the switch to butter only a while ago.

          Olive Oil is not a seed oil

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Weed makes you gay... No joke. Started smoking weed in high school, habit got bad really quick. Used to do all kinds of degenerate gay shit, even though it felt crazy shameful. Eventually quit weed for health & coincidentally any & all desire to engage in fat shit totally evaporated. I know how it sounds but seriously, I think the whole weed industry is some kind of illuminati pharma psyop to feminize dudes & turn them into gays. If you think about it, the rise of weed correlates with the rise of trannies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *gay shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its now trendy to hate on weed and be based trad moron. its modern extremely high thc/cbd ratios that cause problems. weed was only bred to be this way because of prohibition

      lol. west was better place when guys were feminized and homosexual.i dont mean šõj neckbeard but hippish and glam dudes of late 60 to early 90 era. it was good influence. without it men either turn onto redditors or into chuds. both sad and deplorable creatures.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >west was better place when guys were feminized and homosexual
        israelite rat claws wrote this post. How can 1 person be more fricking wrong. Talking up the most useless ass generation who's greatest accomplishments were Black person & gay worship + endorsement of unbridled materialism. have a nice day b***h.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          culture was best then. Black person worship is later development. materialism was republican thing. these huys fiercely opposed counterculture.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Get in the oven.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmao bro you are just a homosexual. I have smoked tons of weed and have never felt any desire to be a gay like you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >has oral fixation to make himself feel better
        >says isn't a gay
        Lol gay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is beyond moronic. People don't smoke weed to alleviate an oral fixation, what a fricking leap to try and "own" that guy.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It reinforces one, hence why most smokers suck wiener too

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I think you're just gay, anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, google it, this temporary gay state on weed is common. You're just a gay apologist degen in denial.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I used to smoke a ton of weed and never encountered gay thoughts. First hand experience is good enough for me to say weed doesn't "make you gay" or whatever. I'll agree that gays also smoke a ton of weed and I'll agree weed is degenerate, which is why I quit, but I don't see any merit in the the idea that makes you more likely to be gay.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >First hand experience is good enough for me to say weed doesn't "make you gay"
                Well by your own logic there is a lot of people saying you're wrong. Maybe it's like this, everyone's sexuality is somewhere on the spectrum, & weed shifts your position on it. Just cause it doesn't make you gay, doesn't mean it doesn't push people who, when sober are straight, just far enough to start having gay thoughts. In any case it's degen gay shit & should be done away with all the same.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's fair. I think an argument could be made that people who it affects must be bi already, but it's better that bi people engage in normal relationships than homosexualry, and maybe weed pushes them too far into the wrong side.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Or even people who are just on the other side of the straight/bi-fence. Dont know what else to tell you other than I & many others have only ever experienced homosexual thoughts while using weed. Like maybe it alters the brain chemistry & fricks with sexual associations. You definitely can't say you haven't had thoughts on weed you wouldn't have had while sober. Even if they're just dumb stoner thoughts. We hardly know the full extent of how it fricks with brain chemistry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, you've convinced me there may be something to it, it just never happened to me, but definitely had a lot of non-gay-but-still-moronic thoughts on weed. Mainly gave it up because it made me complacent, but I'm willing to believe it might encourage gay thoughts in otherwise straight people

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm completely straight but got high and accidentally had a mind-altering prostate orgasm that lasted at least 20 minutes. Still straight but holy shit I still think about it sometimes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's the same with alcohol. These are mind altering subtances that make people do shit they would never do sober. It's all degen shit & the only safe life is sober life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lmao theres absolutely no oral fixation on my part, my moderate occasional consumption of weed is consumed in a manner that is purely practical and with the only goal of getting a slight high. There is no ritual to it, its just a cold efficient procedure. When I smoke weed its done in less than a second using a bong. I think you are projecting your gay thoughts on others.

          You know there are actually studies on this? Even if it doesn't directly alter your brain chemistry, you're literally engaging in homosexual behavior based on user stats.
          >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2801062/
          >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691072/
          There is a strong correlation between degen gay behavior & weed/smoking in general. Might not make you a gay, but you're definitely gaygish.

          >uhm akshually theres scientific studies

          Sounds extremely homosexual, and is easily disputed. The studies you provided doesn't even show what you claim. Here is basically what your studies say:

          >Marijuana use was significantly greater and tobacco use was elevated among gay men compared with heterosexual men. SSImp was associated with greater use of both of these substances across nearly all groups.

          >In order to address the gap in the literature, the present study aimed to examine marijuana use among gay and bisexual male emerging adults living with HIV/AIDS.

          None of this proves that marijuana use causes homosexuality. All it says is that homosexuals smoke more weed than heterosexuals.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You sound like a closeted homosexual doing damage control or a israelite trying to shut it down lol

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Nah I am just trying to explain that if you get gay thoughts from smoking weed you are gay to begin with.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See

                >First hand experience is good enough for me to say weed doesn't "make you gay"
                Well by your own logic there is a lot of people saying you're wrong. Maybe it's like this, everyone's sexuality is somewhere on the spectrum, & weed shifts your position on it. Just cause it doesn't make you gay, doesn't mean it doesn't push people who, when sober are straight, just far enough to start having gay thoughts. In any case it's degen gay shit & should be done away with all the same.

                And stop being a degen gay enabler

                Nah, you've convinced me there may be something to it, it just never happened to me, but definitely had a lot of non-gay-but-still-moronic thoughts on weed. Mainly gave it up because it made me complacent, but I'm willing to believe it might encourage gay thoughts in otherwise straight people

                Same reason I quit essentially. It's the most insidious thing about weed. It'll make you sit idle as your dreams pass you by.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You know there are actually studies on this? Even if it doesn't directly alter your brain chemistry, you're literally engaging in homosexual behavior based on user stats.
        >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2801062/
        >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3691072/
        There is a strong correlation between degen gay behavior & weed/smoking in general. Might not make you a gay, but you're definitely gaygish.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There is a strong correlation between degen gay behavior & weed/smoking in general.
          yeah because mentally ill lgbt types are more likely to abuse drugs to begin with
          no shit they abuse the most easily accessible ones more than others

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >whole weed industry is some kind of illuminati pharma psyop to feminize dudes & turn them into gays
      Ewige Blumenkraft

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My experience with weed is that I sleep far better and can sleep for far longer on weed. I have lots of dreams, I don't wake up in the middle of the night, and feel fully rested troughout the day. Only downside is that I am more groggy in the morning. Without weed I can't sleep as long, it takes longer to fall asleep, I wake up unnecessarily early on the weekends and wake up in the middle of the night as well.

    I have been out of weed for a month, and just bought some dank shit yesterday, and slept like a baby this night. I feel incredibly well rested today. I only smoke very small amounts, like 0.05 g mini bong hits.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Check the studies about weed and muscle cells, cannabinoids have a deleterious effect on them, you'll get weaker.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are so moronic it's unreal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      cannabinoids as in pire agonists. weed is partial agonist and in some places it behaves as antagonist. very different from synth pure agonist.

  12. 1 month ago
    sage

    the worst possible thing u can do weed-wise is smoke carts bro, u can get faded anywhere, work, school, it doesnt matter, since it doesnt leave a smell. 90% of fast food employees are probably working faded off carts. if ur gonna smoke at least stick to flower so you can limit yourself to the appropriate time and place for weed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      forgot to turn off name my bad im not sage'ing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >if ur gonna smoke at least stick to flower
      Frick right the frick off with this shit. Most states where it's legal dont even give a frick about this anymore. I fricking hate commiefornia, fricking everywhere smells like fricking weed. The parking lot of the fricking school district admins building reeks every time I pass it. Fricking church lots, nothing is sacred if you're im a state where this shit is legal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i get u have a problem with weed but seething at me isnt gonna change things, black ppl are gonna smoke wherever they want.. want 2 change that? go confront them
        doesnt mean ppl should be smoking carts, that shit is turning dead end workers across the nation into zombies high 24/7..at least if a mcdonalds worker walks into work smelling like weed from a blunt then the manager will know n fire him

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >if a mcdonalds worker walks into work smelling like weed from a blunt then the manager will know n fire him
          You're a fricking moron if you believe this. The manager would just be mad they didn't share. It all has to go. Flower, carts, edibles, doesnt matter. It's all equally as bad and pretending otherwise is peak moronic.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            thats not true though, have u ever seen this go down? owners & managers have a no drug policy, even today. just because u spend time thinking about weed all day doesnt mean u know anything about whats happening, or the dynamics of the use of it.
            you're just a passive observer that seethes quietly in the corner. don't call me a moron just cause ur butthurt.. try meditation.. you're disconnected from reality

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No you're literally a naïve moron. As if ANYONE respects those policies when they don't use heavy machinery, sometimes even then. I don't know what state you're in but in my degen infested shithole, no one gets punished for using weed. Especially not in service industries where pretty much fricking everyone is using. You're legit moronic. Meditate on that homosexual.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                srsly if living in california makes u that mad then move, ur isolated from other people and society, u hate everyone, and u impose it on yourself continuously..
                ppl used to respect weed policies bc if u smoke up before work you would come in reeking.. ppl have the opportunity to get faded at work now bc of carts. you're totally blinded by anger and u type like a b***hy woman.. so passive-aggressive.. i bet u cant call anyone homosexual irl

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the conclusion I've come to as well. There's a store that sells 1g carts for $11.00. I can be high all day every day and it doesn't even impact me financially. Now it's like being sober is being high because my mind knows being high on thc more than being sober.

      I've been doing this non stop for about a year now with consuming marijuana for the last 25 years now and feel like I'm losing my grip on reality. I discovered buddhism but that has me even more fricked up with dukkha, anatta and anicca. I think if I limit myself to the weekend and go from there I'll be better overall but the carts are so damn cheap and I'm killing it in every other aspect of my life. What do I do?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        just stay off it for 2 weeks and your brain will adjust to it moron

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what do you do? get sober. you won't be able to limit yourself to the weekends. when you've put that much time into an addiction it's all or nothing. it's sober time

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me
    Pros
    >makes my workouts a lot better
    >makes music sound better
    >increases appetite for bulking

    Cons
    >the crash sucks
    >I get worse sleep if I smoke it before bed
    >makes me feel stupid
    >get paranoid
    >increases estrogen

    Over all its not worth my time. But it effects everyone different.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    great for sleep in general. great if you use a sativa during exercise *but not for PR or competitive purposes* as you'll enjoy better focus/music quality/pump will be a rush.

    between the two, weed is superior for rest and recovery.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >weed is superior for rest and recovery.
      Stfu moron, weed lowers T, meaning any R&R you get will ultimately be worth less than sober R&R. If you need weed to sleep or focus you have bigger fricking problems you mentally deficient degen. Get some will gains b***h.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tl;dr lol. You shit brained fricking monkey. Nobody cares about screeching idiots
        like you who look like shit.

        https://i.imgur.com/bVZWkMA.gif

        God damn I cannot believe potheads legitimately believe it’s good to work out high

        See above.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody, literally no one, gives a shit what some degen stoner dumbass thinks b***h. If you think weed is helping you, you may as well fricking have a nice day.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nta but you cared enough to reply to him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God damn I cannot believe potheads legitimately believe it’s good to work out high

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        how can you prove it's not?
        I did 500 kettlebell swings (but with a plate) while high this morning about 2 hours after waking up
        it felt great and I got my swings done in less sets than I have in my past 4 sessions

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I’m just kind of being a dickhead. It’s fine for normal health and fitness I guess. Still do not believe it’s good if you’re trying to push through to the next level and transform your physique

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        try it and you will see

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >do drugs affect your biological processes
    Yes.
    >it only affects x with me
    No it doesn't. You just don't have an accurate measurement of everything that's effected.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Drinking and smoking while lifting is where I get a good half of my fitness advice.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this thread prompted me to puff the thc vape before going to the gym
    it was a good workout, felt like brain shut off and i was completely focused on the iron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's my ritual to always smoke weed a few hours or right before a rugby game. Playing after getting high makes me ready to frick people up.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this thread prompted me to puff the thc vape before going to the gym
        it was a good workout, felt like brain shut off and i was completely focused on the iron

        Go away Sativa nigs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          my shits a bottom of the barrel hybrid

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Probably sativa dominant. What strain?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              best info i could find is on this website https://ocs.ca/products/tiki-tang-disposable-pen-back-forty
              otherwise, no idea

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          my shits a bottom of the barrel hybrid

          Probably sativa dominant. What strain?

          isn't the sativa/indica difference a myth?

          Nobody, literally no one, gives a shit what some degen stoner dumbass thinks b***h. If you think weed is helping you, you may as well fricking have a nice day.

          You need to mellow out bro, hit this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Stfu homosexual ass stoner b***h, see

            Effectively turns you into a fat troony.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              i can do abdominal isolations, left to right.
              Hey man, I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I went from a 24/7 365 stoner to dry herb vaping one bowl every two weeks. much more enjoyable this way and feel way less moronic

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lack of REM sleep.
    bro that should be a massive warning to stop smoking weed

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dont notice anything besides the sleep.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It hasn’t effected my gains, but I tried going scuba diving and the weed smoking has apparently effected my deep-lung breathing that it felt like I couldn’t get enough air out of the demand-valve regulator. It felt like I had to actively work my diaphragm to get it. So I guess I need to quit weed altogether and get my cardiovascular health up to snuff. It’s the first time I haven’t been able to physically do something I’ve wanted to do.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about scuba diving on edibles?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you're still getting high after your teenage years, you're simply ngmi

    reddit still coping hard with the sagan shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post body (any reply to this that is not a picture of your body is you conceding that you are a crossboarding dyel and that looks like shit)

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Effectively turns you into a fat troony.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      great, now i'll finally blend in

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Daily smoking will make you hit a plateau at some point. What's the point abusing it when you barley feel anything?

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