How fucked am I really if I took the vaxx? Its been a year and a half and I have been closely monitoring myself after a 4chan schiz out. I think I am fine but want to hear what other anons have experienced, especially ones that do heavy excercise regularly. I have heard that if nothing happened to you in the first couple of months you are probably fine but I would like to be safe anyways. I know NAC is a substance that is good at supposedly limiting the spike proteins, anything else I could do?
nothing can save you now
if you havent felt anything weird after a year youre fine. if its gonna fuck you up youd have noticed something off by now, its kind of a dice roll
How do you know that
There's literally no way you could have some sort of definite answer
How many of the people who keeled over randomly felt perfectly fine up until then
People dropped dead suddenly before the vax too anon
Oh yeah. All the time. Definitely.
My question is why did you take it?
I was 19 and living with my parents who are old, at the time I was retarded and I thought I was doing good by not getting them sick. Before I even found IST
The vaccine killed me, my family, my dog, and gave me aids.
>not joining 4chin @ 14 yo
Holy fuck man don't actually listen to these 4chan schizos. The vaccine doesn't prevent transmission, it reduces the severity of the symptoms you might possibly experience. Even though it might kill a few people, by vaccinating the masses, the overall impact of the disease is reduced. This lessens the impact on hospitals and the healthcare system as a whole. It's a lot easier to vaccinate someone than it is to ventilate them.
You just managed to spout, word for word, every talking point the post media has used and continues to use. Fuckkkkkkk offffffff, you won't subvert me, you gay
>Justifying the trolley dillemma irl with no idea what's further down the tracks.
Take the VAXX pay the TAXX!
> 4chan schiz out.
Bro you already answered your own question.
sorry chud, the vax is safe and harmless
unfortunately you will live a long full life
There are protocols to remove spike proteins alongside graphene oxide and other toxins. I doubt of their efficacity but you can give it a dime. Also if you took the vaxx, you will never know if you have long term side effects but I think you'd be fine if not
I'm dead bro
Speaking for myself, I've had 3x Pfizer including my most recent booster. 24 years old, no existing health conditions and medically fit.
I will say this, even since the last shot I've been finding it hard to train. My endurance has dropped off significantly and I get chest pains if I run for more than 5 minutes (use to run 10km no issue). I've also noticed I need a longer rest between sets.
I don't regret getting the jabs because I've had asthma and wanted to look out for the community. Parents are both older too so I wanted to protect them.
Unfortunately not. Contrary to what 4chan might have you believe, some of us have morals and didn't want everyone to suffer. I live with my family and didn't want them to be at risk due to me "standing up" for something I had no control over. I'm still here despite all the 2 more week shills that frequent IST.
>didn't help your community
That's debateable. The death toll was significantly less with the vaccine roll out. If anything I'd wager it was a lot of the anti vax shills that spread it around. There's still hope for humanity and not all of us want the world to burn.
The vaccine is proven ineffective, and those who took it died proportionally more than those who didn't. That's even before you factor in vaccine deaths and injuries of which there are many.
Seems like you're a shill.
Each to their own anon, but some of us aren't scared of a jab.
>vaxtard sticking to his guns
It's real hard to feel sorry for vaxies
sticking to his guns
Damn, didn't know the vax turns you ESL as well
>some of us have morals
And some of us possess critical thinking skills and common sense.
t. control group
>I didn't take a vaccine therefore I'm 200IQ
You didn't take it out of fear and probably due to the fact you aren't employed. You had nothing on the line anyway anon. Don't confuse this with being intelligent.
I didnt take it because i am antisemitic
>You didn't take it out of fear
I have the necessary wisdom for self preservation and survival.
> you aren't employed
>You had nothing on the line anyway anon.
I had EVERYTHING on the line.
>Don't confuse this with being intelligent.
Well...what would you call avoiding an experimental, untested, rushed to market, gene altering, science juice injection?
>posts some fag up in a tree
>had EVERYTHING TO LOSE!!!
Yeah, I'd believe it's you mate. You're "barking" mad.
>posts some fag up in a tree
Yeah, I just happen to have a bunch of pics of some fag in trees with the filename "me". Keep on coping, lab rat.
>fag in the tree 4.jpg
Post one where you're doing a backflip off the tree with no safety harness. You seem to not care about your own safety or the safety of those around you so why not? Since you know everything.
>You seem to not care about your own safety or the safety of those around you
I do though. That's why I convinced my parents not to take the jab.
have a nice day, gay.
My 85 year old father got giga-vaxxed and he is totally fine.
No, those are for cattle such as yourself and your retarded father.
>I actively convinced people to forgo medical protection from a potentially lethal airborne virus during a global pandemic
>I obviously know better guys.. I'm an arborist (fag in a tree)
Life must be tough having an IQ under 80. I pray for your loved ones and you, despite your own obvious stupidity.
Never got the jab. Still alive. Real fucking scary plague we had there, eh?
Got the jab. Still alive. Real fucking scary plague we had there, eh? Glad I had protection.
Can you by some chance...get unjabbed?
Why would he want to? He's protected for life and you're going to suffer when the next wave comes. Won't feel so superior then.
>when the next wave comes.
>anecdote + survivorship bias
Real convincing argument there pal
Your job is to climb trees lmao
What's yours, fatty?
Watching you cut them down outside my house. I invested young, now get chopping plague monkey.
Post back account, ya fat fucking liar.
Confirmed for room temperature IQ. Get those fat unvaccinated fingers off the keyboard and get back to work Bruce. I've got a 90ft pine I want removed from my mountain condo early tomorrow. I'm talking 4am kinda early.
>my mountain condo early tomorrow
The point is being a chainsaw operator isn't a terribly convincing qualification for discussing medicine. This alongside your embarrassingly shortsighted arguments gives you laughably little credibility
I'm unvaxxed. Seethe more.
I'm not a priest but somehow I'm able to discuss religion. Weird.
>I'm not a priest
thats weird i saw you raping a 10 year old boy a few days ago though
>I'm not a priest but somehow I'm able to discuss religion
Not in any cogent or meaningful way. You realize there are centuries of philosophy and logic behind coherent theology, right?
>You realize there are centuries of philosophy and logic behind coherent theology, right?
Anon, he works with chainsaws in trees for a living. He's going to have to Google 90% of the words in that sentence and even then, you're probably not going to get a sensible answer.
>He's going to have to Google 90% of the words in that sentence and even then, you're probably not going to get a sensible answer.
Please stop guys, I'm on the verge of tears.
Now tell me again how you're more intelligent than me for getting jabbed. I'll wait.
>Now tell me again how you're more intelligent than me for getting jabbed.
Never said that, nice strawman. Try again sweetie.
>Try again sweetie.
It's spelled sweaty. Go talk to your supervisor, Jude.
You realize that I don't need a medical degree to decided if I want a heavily shilled science juice injected into my body or not, right?
How were those free donuts by the way? I never got one. Never got one of those good boy stickers either. Really bummed about that.
You can do whatever you want my man. But if you are trying to convince someone else you need a compelling argument or reliability credibility, preferably both. You have neither.
>You realize that I don't need a medical degree to decided if I want a heavily shilled science juice injected into my body or not, right?
By the same logic you wouldn't need a pilots licence to operate a Boeing 747 airliner. Because you know what to do? Right anon?
fucking epic own right here. r/murderedbywords here I come
That's not the same logic. One is a learned skill. One is wisdom. Something that comes with age. Knowing that when someone tries to coax you with a donut to take an experimental drug...you don't take either.
>The vax is bad because ... I just know okay?
Tell me what's good about it. Aren't all of us unvaxxed supposed to have died a couple years ago?
Nobody ever thought the virus would kill everyone on earth y'know? You are more likely to die from covid if you are unvaxxed, but its not a death sentence.
>You are more likely to die from covid if you are unvaxxed
Gonna need some sauce on that one, rabbi.
You can just google "google vaccine efficacy" and pick any you like, they all say the same thing no matter the methodology.
Here's one out of countless
If you don't like it pick any other one
Seems like you haven't really read the literature if you haven't found there's negative vaccines effectiveness, specially once you go into more boosters, the latter seems to be related to a weird phenomenon where antibodies created in response to infection turn into igg4 types, even weirder it only seems to happen with mrna products
>He doesn't have an instinctual gut feeling to guide him
You have no morals and are not human.
Being a retard has nothing to do with morals anon or being human
Not getting the vax, not listening to you, enjoying your helpless cries as your attempt at subversion fails. Cry more garden gnome.
>Redditspacing and reddit-tier terminology
Consider learning how to tie a noose for yourself.
>avoiding an experimental, untested, rushed to market, gene altering, science juice injection?
>said by a guy who climbs trees with a chainsaw
why is it always the laborers who have this opinion lol
Oh noes, he works for a living.
Please stop. You're hurting my feelings.
Great argument by the way. Keep the insults coming.
>Oh noes, he works for a living.
being a laborer isnt working. try doing an actual important and difficult job like software developer.
AI isn't going to replace me anytime soon. Can you say the same?
A noble cause if there ever was one. God speed anon. I was in a similar position.
He even included redditspacing too kek. Absolutely legendary bait
How do you feel that now that you know the vaccine didn't help your community and only hurt you? Do you still feel le reddit pride in being a good Samaritan?
two more weeks till Sudden Death, I'll be at your funeral
>family gets vax
>they all get covid
>they all get severe blood clots in lungs
>they all stay sick for over a month
>still affects them almost 2 years later
>i skip vax
>i get covid
>runny nose and cough for a week
>2 years later and im in the best shape of my life
i aint a scientist but im noticing a correlation
You're fine. Antivaxxers are retards. Here is their leader.
Still never taking it shareblue. Bitterly dilate about it.
the only antivax guy I follow on social media is mccullough
don't @ me unless you have a phd in stem
i lost my job because I didnt take the vax. I'm glad i didnt compromise my integrity, and sad that so many of you felt you had to. Ultimately it pushed me to start my own business and not work for soulless coorporations any more who only see me as a number.
There's some retard at my place of business who was talking all high and mighty about how many boosters he got. He has used up every sick day by the end of January. He even tries showing up and is too sick and goes home. I am enjoying it.
There's a good chance all you got was saline, so if you haven't collapsed like the sports players yet you're probably okay.
I took it. I mostly don't notice it. But doing dips hurt my heart. I can tell it's the vaxx.
No it’s just sternum pain, something quite common when people do dips
The only considerable danger of the covid vaccine is cardiac stuff for a few weeks after you got it. Everything else is schizobabble. You are still alive so its all good.
>inb4 two more weeks
>muh spike proteins dood, so glad I didnt suck klaus dick hahahahaha two more weeks goys
I am not even vaxxed but anti vaxx schizos are overplaying their hand, 95% people who are jabbed will probably be fine realistically. Just because roid chud athletes and slampigs are dropping dead from it doesnt mean shit
>95% people who are jabbed will probably be fine realistically.
Still part of the biggest clinical trial of human history.
Thinks after 2 1/2 years the study is over and everything is okay.
There are so many micro plastics, carcinogens, residual effects from the vax you got as a child, and other cumulative effects of goyslop that the vaxx hardly makes a difference. that is the real blackpill, polspergs just want to feel vindicated in their defiance.
>the vaxx hardly makes a difference
The clinical trial is ongoing. Cope more.
>2 MORE WEEKS
moron its been almost 3 years, I don't know a single person in my life who has died or reported any weird illnesses to me and I live in a blue city. I really think the vast majority of people will probably be fine
And let me add, this was not even a vaccine, but an experimental, never before used, gene therapy.
>nothing matters anyways so just give up and let us do whatever we want
Shoo shoo rabbi.
Vaccine shedding is a thing and you all probably have trace amounts of it unless you are a full blown neet. Everyone keeps waiting for this mass dieoff because they want something to happen. Nothing. Ever. Happens.
>Vaccine shedding is a thing
And from what you typed, you're not aware of how it works.
You nihilist and existentialist garden gnomes are the very opposote of the pure human spirit. When you die, you will feel nothing but regret for having done nothing with your life, even though you tried so hard to delude yourself that nothing matters.
Word salad and buzzword soup make a hearty meal. Nothing he said is nihilistic or existentialist, and I don't think you know what existentialism is.
>Take the blackpill! Nothing matters because you were screwed since birth! The vaccine is nothing compared to that!
Tongue my anus.
I didn't mean blackpill in the retarded lookism sense but the fact that it is bad faith and in vein to have this vaxx vs antivaxx debate. Its honestly sickening if you do believe that the vaxx causes harm and seeing friends and family members die over it. Nothing will probably happen but if you are in that frame of reference that is more blackpill than anything else
Being realistic about your environment and exposure to toxins isn't nihilism.
Nice strawman, he never said that.
Shouldn't you be in school or something?
Kek, sure, that's what he was doing. Your squirming as you realize that your negativity doesn't affect me is hilarious.
I've worked you down to it just being negative then. This is true, he is being cynical and negative. You finally made an accurate post. Try thinking about the words you use before spouting meaningless buzzword soup you read online.
Those "buzzwords and word salad" shills like you keep running on about all have to do with negativity you retard, lmao. Keep crying and use your perceived win to soothe yourself though, I bet its hard work attempting to subvert people and their beliefs all day.
What? moron stop the head cannon I am just saying its a vein attempt to troll vaxxies that they will die off when industrial society runoff and the compromised water supply is already posioning people, plus all of the goyslop that the masses consoom. I am not telling you to get vaxxed you fucking mong, theres just too many schizo polspergs who kvetch at the thought of collapse and the vaxx die off when in reality nothing will really happen
I really don't give a fuck about amy of that. I'm telling you that your vain attempts at blackpilling will never work on me, moron.
Anon I am not a blackpill moron, I am just saying that the idea that alot of never vaxxer schizos hold are half truths. is the vaxx probably have bad stuff in it? Yes. Is it a form of social control by WEF, Schlomo, Schwab, ~~**~~, NWO commies? Yes. However, it most likely reflects the latter rather than the former. It has the potential to be harmful long term but realistically most people who took probably will be fine if they haven't experienced anything noteworthy yet, muh 5 years is cope and based off nothing just as much as the effectiveness of the vaxx itself. Should you get the vaxx? No absolutely not. Will you probably be fine if you were naive and took it? yah probably, because of all the shit I listed in my other post.
Alright then fair enough, I can see what you mean, but the jury is still out on the vax. I view it the same way as asbestos, "safe" and common, until one day everyone realizes how fucked it really was.
This. 20 year olds have always had heart attacks.
It's perfectly normal for an extremely healthy tennis player to have a heart attack on the court you schizo! Don't tell me you're one of those conspiracy theorists or something
Facebook mom tier evidence
Give me an example of this besides the same 4 webms or some meme graph about excess deaths with rumble.com on the bottom corner
No I wouldn't want to discourage you from getting boosted again. After all we all need to do our part. We're in this together.
>2 more weeks
There are literal onions addled subhumans with 6 boosters and they seem to be fine. Again not vaxxed but muh mass dieoff fags are retarded, the biggest risk factor is the first couple of weeks with rapid heart beating, anything past that is pure schizo babble. Its just a mass vindication headcanon at this point, most polspergs want it to happen unironically.
>>2 more weeks
Typical Timeline. A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes, and manufacture sufficient quantity of vaccine doses for widespread distribution.
>A typical vaccine development timeline takes 5 to 10 years, and sometimes longer, to assess whether the vaccine is safe and efficacious in clinical trials, complete the regulatory approval processes
That's partly because of bureaucratic slowness. The pipeline for an orphan drug for example can be completed in 2-3 years.
>you think this is over just bc it's been 25 years? just you wait and see!
I think the new meta is the vaccine will cause lower fertility rates, and if that doesn't pan out it will cause birth defects, and if that doesn't pan out, the spike proteins will get us in our 50s and 60s, and if that doesn't pan out
Those things are already panning out.
TWO MORE WEEKS BROS
THE KRAKEN IS COMING
WE'LL FINALLY BE THE ONES LAUGHING AT EVERYONE ELSE
I've been laughing since I saw you guys lining up to get jabbed.
You counter argue like a child anon. You have changed not one single here anon. Not the guy you replied to by the way
Some retard was talking about pomegranate skin extracts being good for it
My experience with the anthrax vaccine taught me to never trust "the science" ever again. Sorry you gotta pressured into that bullshit anon.
Trumpfags vote against their own economic interests
that's why I voted biden.
Pls don’t vote
>Pls don’t vote
Never have, never will.
Likely a pretty large percentage of the vaxx dosage completely benign. Apparently due to the rushing out of it no one was trained in handling the vials, as well as like non-medical workers that have no clue about that shit having handled a large portion of the doses. Also a lot of the doses weren't even administered correctly.
A lot of people essentially just had gunky water injected into their arm.
>Cope, the post.
I'm not coping, watch this podcast, the guy worked at Black Rock doing analytics and shit, he crunched the numbers.
>I’m not coping
>watch this podcast
Just trying to educate bro
The biggest blackpill underlining the Vaccine Vs Anti-vaccine debate is this.
You're all vaccinated. Even if you didn't get the jab directl, you've been exposed to shedding from those that have. You've had sex with vaccinated individuals, drank from the same bottle, breathed in their second hand air.
Do you really think if this was a mass extinction event they'd let the 4chantards hang around once the shows over? Idiots. All of you.
Thats what I was trying to get at here
It was over before it began. We have been addled with mirco plastics and residual birth control in the water supply for decades now. Pol spergs just want a hero's journey and to feel vindicated for their defiance when they most likely already are exposed to the ills that modern society has to offer.
Sure you are right but again there seems to be no proof in the pudding other than muh excess deaths meme charts and articles with rumble as the source. Is it poison? probably. But so is the air we breathe and goyslop we eat. Its all compromised, the vaxx really wont make a difference and is a drop in the bucket for most people on top of all the other health issues of industrial society.
Yeah shit already sucks, might as well just bend on over and take whatever big daddy government wants to shove up our asses.
Vax shedding is a meme. I'm not seeing anti vaxers keeling over.
Thats my point retard, the fact this many people are exposed to the vaxx and incidents are few and far between means its probably okay for most people. Read my other posts before you call me a vaxx shill I don't feel like typing to a wall again
Nobody knows how "few and far between" they are. And there is no reason to think if you are ok so far you're in the clear.
Theres pretty consistent evidence with batch numbers and self reports, even if you give the benefit of the doubt and increase the numbers times 40 with actual incidents with each batch number that reports adverse effects the numbers hover around between 10,000 to 20,000. I think muh excess deaths retards extrapolate the same way msm and CDC do with the covid related deaths
What are you basing that off. Look at the VAERS info. Anyways you are seeing people who got vaxed over a year ago randomly dropping dead now. The actual mechanism looks like it could be cumulative.
>you are seeing people who got vaxed over a year ago randomly dropping dead now
Proofs? Worldwide excess deaths are not correlated with vaccination rate so that doesn't count. Tiktok videos, twitter posts, and facebook posts also do not count.
What the fuck do you mean proof. Most people got jabbed over a year ago and some are currently randomly dying.
Didn't people die before covid????
go get the boosters then
>source: trust me bro
>trust me bro
He asked for something that wasn't some fear mongering facebook shit anon
>facebook boomer memes
>Anyways you are seeing people who got vaxed over a year ago randomly dropping dead now
Using this website. Again where is this evidence besides a bunch of fucking meme webms? Anecdotal but I don't know a single person that has rolled over and died from the jab. the only sources I get are meme schizo charts and graphs and shit clearly from some boomers meme folder with rumble.com as one of the works cited on the bottom
Are you seriously arguing there are not people dying today, who were vaxed over a year ago? Everyone got vaxed a year or more ago. Do you think deaths have just stopped?
Yes? The excess deaths are a meme that can't be correlated with the vaxx rate and again there are no definitive answers or sources.
Ok, I didn't realize you were a vax denialist.
Then to what do you attribute the massive excess deaths in young people since the vax rollout.
Anyways my message to the sane anons who realize the vax is bad but got it is that you aren't necessarily in the clear. Look into treatments
>Then to what do you attribute the massive excess deaths in young people since the vax rollout.
How can you attribute something that doesn't exist?
How can you be such a stupid waste of oxygen?
Excess deaths are on a worldwide scale, and they have zero correlation to vaccination rate.
This doesn't really mean anything, the numbers were higher in 2020 before the vaxx even rolled out. Could they have probably died from vaxx complicationjs? I think so, but again this notion that its leading to some mass die off when the numbers were higher in 2020 and 2021 is absurd.
You useless morons.
>Look at website
>first article: Are “UFO” Sightings Preparing the Public for Energy Weapons of Mass Destruction as Happened in Turkey & Syria?
Ah yes, this seems a very reputable source of information thank you for opening my eyes anon
Wait wait, now try to discredit anon and his source by calling him a flat eather. I love when you guys use that one. Come on. Do it!
The website was made some turkish bible thumper. Why would i believe any of the shit it spews?
>open schizo website
>graphs with other schizo sites as sources
>random incoherent schizobabble
Please tell me you don't actually rely on these grifters
Look retards I don't know why I have to do your research for you. Of course this is what I get when I try. Maybe actually follow the links in there. Here's one: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/
But really I'd rather you just keep getting jabbed so you know what don't bother.
Linking to some gay bible thumper shit isn't "doing research". It's you just diving straight into your echo chamber.
Thats just excess deaths. Again, this isn't correlated with vaccination rate or vaccination timing so is totally irrelevant. A million things could have caused it.
Earlier you said it didn't happen.
It didn't happen but if it did it's not that big a deal but it didn't happen so don't worry you schizo!
There's more than one person in the thread, anon.
The excess deaths are concerning and definitely related to boosters, but again I think that whoever was going to die from this already did. Its probably like covid where if you had a pre existing condition you are fucked.
Again, many of these people had no known conditions and died over a year after their last shot.
>trust me bro
Are you seriously arguing everyone who has keeled over and known health conditions and received a vax recently?
(Also I like how you ask for "sources" instinctively for everything you don't want to believe even if it makes no sense)
Yeah man I heard from my uncle, he said he knew a guy whos son got the vaxx and then he died. Whoa, I know.
>Also I like how you ask for "sources" instinctively for everything you don't want to believe even if it makes no sense
Kek that's their whole playbook. Scream about you not having a source to drag down every argument you have and stop it from progressing, which would lead to them getting cornered. Then, when you actually give them one, cry about how it's "not verified or reputable". Rinse and repeat for every new topic.
Because when you make a claim you're expected to back it up but when you're source is some christian turk anti-vax page no ones going to take your claims seriously.
The claim that was being made was that not everyone who died from the vax had a known medical condition, and that not all of them were vaxed recently.
Asking for a "source" for that shows you are not thinking or engaging in debate, you are doing exactly what he described, ie avoiding debate. Because a source in that case is unnecessary and inappropriate.
People have always died from "safe" vaccinations anon. People die from flu shots. Why else do you think there was always a negative stigma attached with being antivax? It's when you start going around claiming "healthy people with no prior medical conditions" are dying from the covid vax years after the fact with no actual way to prove it beyond some vague "deaths rising" nonsense isn't engaging in a debate or using any critical thinking at all. It's fear mongering.
You're a garden gnome shill and you're not changing anyone's mind about the supposed vaxx. Care to comment on
>what are statistics
Look you stupid fuck.
Are people dying of "suddenly" still?
When were they vaxed? Most of them, shortly after it was made available. Which is over a year ago.
With me so far?
Did ALL of them have known medical conditions?
No, obviously not.
What is so hard about this? Why is this incredibly simple thought process breaking your minds?
Yes what are statistics? They're numbers. If you can't prove a correlation they don't mean anything. For example, piracy on the seas has been steadily declining since 1800s. The world wide temperature has been rising since that time. Does that mean the lack of pirates in the world has caused global warming?
I'm also denying your initial point because of two reasons, people have always dropped dead since before covid and that there isn't any higher instance of it happening since the vaccination so your premise is wrong from the start.
You're not fooling anyone you filthy, dickless garden gnome bastard. Global mortality is 20% higher since the vaxx. Source? Go fuck yourself and look it up on your own time.
see, just like was said earlier when you're backed into a corner you get defensive and lash out without being able to back up anything you say because you're not equipped to actually argue anything.
It’s a nonsense debate anyway. Everybody can see the spike in heart disease and everybody can make their individual interpretations. I for one don’t believe that it’s caused by eggs or taking naps. Either way I’m interested to see the results of the clinical trial. I know way to many people who are vaxxed so I hope it’s overblown
>I for one don’t believe that it’s caused by eggs or taking naps.
Nice I was looking for this lol
You’ve posted this 100 times in this thread. You’re just talking in circles. Do you expect someone to cite an FDA notice “We fucked up the vax is gonna kill ya” Clinical trials go on for 5-10 years. We will see the results in around that time. The FDA also told you to not use ivermectin until the queen of England used it. Nobody knows anything but we can use critical thinking skills
If your claim about the vax being so lethal to everyone is so surefire surely there must be some easy way for you to prove it. But you can't so you are generally just talking out your ass.
When did I say it was lethal? Just a simple risk assessment showed me that it was more dangerous to get vaxxed than get Covid.
First off that wasn't even me posting that kek, second, you keep asking for a source for EVERYTHING and doing everything you possibly can to avoid having the argument progress. Seethe on
To be fair, if there is no source of information, there's nothing to argue.
Yes, there is, you fucking moron.
There is not a definitive "source of information" for most things. You can still debate using basic logic and deduction.
>if there is no source of propaganda approved by my side, I cannot argue with you
Fixed it, you garden gnome
> the highest such increases occurred in Greece (+24 percentage points (pp)), Spain (+21 pp) and Italy (+20 pp)
Wild. The biggest increases in deaths were in countries that have an aging population. Couldn't possibly be correlated. Maybe you shouldn't talk about something you're clearly not mentally equipped to try and discuss.
Not the guy you're arguing with but is it just me or am I the only one who really doesn't give a shit how many deaths there were up to this point (and lets be honest, hardly any time has passed)? The real problem is how many low life NPC scumbags locked themselves up, masked up, and got an injection because they were told to. Especially after everyone found out about the abysmal rodent trials that were done with this disgusting rna shot years prior. Especially after everyone was told it would alter their own cells to produce spike proteins which is an abominable idea. That's the problem and as far as I'm concerned one kid with myocarditis is one too many because a bunch of miserable fuckin gays lined up like submissive cowards to roll their sleaves up and viciously supported tyranising everyone else. All for a disease with over 99% survival rate that killed old fats with comorbidities.
so it must be the vaxxine that caused their deaths?
what was the number one killer of Americans for the last twenty years? Heart disease. Over 500,000 per year. You could literally see almost 20 articles per day about a sudden death from heart disease if you were looking for them.
but in the last two years all of a sudden its the vaccine? fucking morons who didn't even pass high school bio talking shit. morons.
Hey stupid, why the sudden, unprecedented increase?
>You've had sex with vaccinated individuals,
this is IST
>guys the vaccine is an attempt to create a NWO! It’s killing people off!
>why does the NWO want to kill off the people who listened to them instead of radical freethinkers like myself?
>t-they just do, okay!!!
>why does the NWO want to kill off the people who listened to them
They will get killed off BECAUSE they listened to them, dumbass.
WHY, you stupid bastard
What is the point of killing off your loyal servants in the NWO and leaving JUST the rebellious people
This is the first time anyone has ever said this.
>suicidal thoughts for like 10 years thru my 20s
>too cowardly to do it
>hear about how the vax and boosters can significantly increase chances of heart attack
>have vax and 5 boosters
PLEASE GIVE ME THIS
You got trolled, brother
Got the jab. Just didn’t die. Really that simple
i got boosted one time (gay workplace required it) back in june and then ran a half marathon in 1:35 in september and didn't die
what are vaxxies doing on IST and not out there getting their shots? do they know how low the latest booster uptakes were? go get boosted people!!!! come on!!!
they're almost all shills
God I wish the WHO would pay me to dunk on schizos, instead I have to do it for free.
Wow you sound pretty cool (yours is the bog standard shill response to any accusation btw, you guys are completely devoid of humor and originality, everything you say is gay and grating.)
>Exactly what a shill would say, curious.
Exactly what a disingenuous ideologue would say, curious.
>he thinks people get paid to post popular opinions in 4chins
You're too far gone mate. You and the donkey tree fag. If humanity continues on its current trajectory with you idiots populating the gene pool... we're doomed.
They literally do. It is beyond debate.
>he thinks people get paid to post
>You and the donkey tree fag
First it's insinuated that I'm unemployed, but since I am, I'm some sort of retard...
>If humanity continues on its current trajectory with you idiots populating the gene pool.
The idiots willingly took themselves out of the gene pool for free fucking donuts, and good boy stickers.
You certainly are.
>posts some "hurr garden gnomes" unrelated garbage
>trust me bro
You, sir, are a tree climbing donkey. I'd wreck you IRL too. Don't forget it.
>I'd wreck you IRL too.
Post body, post nose, post foreskin.
You are retarded because you work some brain dead minimum wage tree monkey shit that a 10 year old could do but for some reason people should listen to your expertise on vaccination and microbiology.
Post medical degree.
No one here is a shill (well maybe some are). I just find the notion that every single person or even a majority who took the jab are gonna have some massive die off to vindicate polspergs as retarded.
Nobody is expecting a mass die off, well I'm not anyway. But if vaxxies think because they didn't die that their choice to get jabbed had zero consequences, they simply cannot say.
Yet here we are.. posting quite happily. Protected and knowing we did what we had to do for the community. Meanwhile, you idiots run around spreading propaganda. Who's the shill again?
You're part of an ongoing study.
You're community doesn't give a fuck about you or grandma.
Meanwhile you idiots are still unable to be anything other than meat automatons.
Sure, but again this seems to be the notion and with that same logic you really can't say the long term negative consquences. We will have to wait and see. Was there bad shit in the vaxx? yah probably. Will the vast majority of people be fine? yah, most likely
By my guess, you'll probably be alright. From what I've seen it was a deeply flawed and rushed product, not a depopulation attempt.
Lucky me I was able to avoid taking it thanks to my mom. I genuinely can't wait for her schizophrenia diagnosis on the issue tho:
>Only forms of news watching are CNN and other mainstream media
>Diehard liberal and Democrat, has said she "wants Trump's head on a pike"
>Entire rest of the family (that we still interact with) is left-wing (except me, I don't even know where I fall)
>Has zero vax-skeptic friends
>Thinks IST is evil and produces half the world's nazis or more
Despite all this, she independently decided that the vax was poison and refused it. Got pretty mad at my dad and sister for taking it and defended me to the rest of the family when they wanted to make me get it.
Unironic schizophrenia has to be at work. She had no business just magically divining the 4chan perspective on that one.
Only sensible post here, you explained it better than I could. It was a rushed product and form of manipulation and control. All of the other arguments on mass deaths and likewise is just pure schizo babble that can not be corroborated. This anon said it best
Ok so why all the suppression of discussion and prevention of effective treatment?
I am not arguing against any of that. It was a cut to big pharmas profits and nothing more. You are collatoral and nothing else, irregardless of if you think the vaxx is some WEF plan to mass kill off all the cattle. There is no vindication, like I said there are already tons of toxic shit ready to give you teriminal illnesses in our globohomo modernity. I am not arguing if the vaxx is bad or not just the notion that there is some giant mass die off in the works and all of these schizos who keep spamming muh excess deaths with nothing to back it up
If it was about profits why inject people with poison and not some harmless placebo
you're fucked, mate. you died almost two years ago.
Oh look a vax bait thread. I'm so grateful I didn't let institutions and well meaning parents beat critical thinking out of me.
Wait do you guys unironically think vaccines are dangerous
What about the "vaccine" was a vaccine? That shit that you asshats put into your bodies was in no way a fucking vaccine. Know the difference, dummy.
Anon i think you're the one who needs to learn. Just because you take a jab for the cold doesn't mean you're 100% immune to it either. You're still taking a vaccine by the literal definition.
>You're still taking a vaccine by the literal definition.
MRNA gene therapy is by definition NOT a fucking vaccine, rabbi.
>He hasn't had any vaccine in his life.
Just stop anon. Your stupidity is showing.
I never got the current jab, noseboy. Seethe you filthy garden gnome.
wew that's some stupidity right there
Depends which definition you use, these things are dynamic. Language constantly changes, the old definition was inadequate for new technology.
Tell me why changing definitions is a bad thing.
>Depends which definition
The one that was there before it was changed.
>Tell me why changing definitions is a bad thing.
It's called gaslighting you fucking dickless garden gnome shill.
The effect and intent of both methods of vaccination is the same, so they were given the same name. Pretty reasonable once turn on your brain. Where were DA JOOS involved again?
A potato is also a tomato. Let me tell you how this is true, and why this is a good thing that we define two completely different things as being the same. Because you can put them both in your body to prevent hunger, therefore they are now the same thing.
They are both food, in this sense food is a good definition for both. In the same sense, "vaccine" is well-defined as an injection meant to stimulate an immune response. Both types of vaccines accomplish this, so its a good definition.
No. The definition was literally changed last year. It was even in the news cycle for an entirr week
It wasn't. That's some pure schizo babble. If it was then you couldn't call a shot for a cold shot a vaccine because it still didn't 100% protect you from getting the common cold.
It was, you can easily find the change in archives, both for the Merriam-Webster and the WHO website
The common cold vaccine was always controversial, but I'd guess you are memory hole'ing the Cochrane review that called for RCTs of it
The prior definition had nothing to do with efficacy you drooling shill retard.
Yes, because if it triggered an immune response it was a vaccine it does not mean the same thing as becoming immunized and never did.
more newspeak, it's all so tiring
>getting triggered by the word 'efficacy' now
You're projecting a little to hard there kek
Look at the way they use it for propaganda purposes in the news and media outlets. And I'm not your "man", you gay. I don't get why you söys try so hard to relate on a personal level to people you abhor lmao.
Is this a new word for you my man? Its been used for centuries
It's especially funny because it just goes to show this guy has nothing beyond a highschool education. Anyone who's had any sort of tertiary education gets beaten over the head with the work efficacy in any sort of university assignment.
"Old words used in new ways" is pretty much the definition of newspeak.
Yes they have.
best point itt, but hey biden and the glowgays changed the definition kf a recession so we aren't in one, it's always been defined as that and if you think otherwise you're a bad goy
Trumpfags vote against their own economic interests
>assuming i like trump if i don't like biden
for the "chosen race" you guys aren't very bright are you
>muh orange moron
It's been 3 years, seek help schizo
Trump made a great economy you communist waste of oxygen
Besides the whole preventing illlness thing. .
Preventing illness entirely and preventing severe illness is a slider on the same scale. Either way the disease is in your body and is dealt with by an artificial immune response, one is just faster than the other. Its fundamentally the exact same thing.
Aren't garden gnomes all about forgiveness and moving on? This is an unhealthy obsession, mr goldstein.
except there hasn't been a negative GDP quarter in the entire Biden admin, so by any definition, past or present, we are not in a recession, and haven't been in one since he took office...
This. The west is not in decline , Trumpfags just can’t cope that less people are not registering republican anymore
Shills can't win the vaxx argument, so they derail the thread to "muh Trump". Fucking pathetic.
Antivaxx schizos have yet to give a single reputable argument as to any significant dangers of the vaccine. Its just the some unrelated nonsense over and over
Rent free . Get the jab chud
Most political parties are locked into the policies of their predecessors and full impact of their policies aren't actually seen until years after
oh ok the recession will happen...sooner or later...so we might as well start blaming this administration now.
i guess by that logic if it were to happen this year, it would be the Trump admin's policies coming into full effect, right?
So hyperinflation is all trumps fault? True and nuanced take
A recession has nothing to do with their GDP, I don't give a fuck. It's about the affordability for the average person living retard.
Next you'll tell me I'm wrong because your genius economist garden gnomes don't define a recession like that lmao
Wait, did you just change the definition of "recession"
IM GOING INSANE
webms of CNN isnt evidence, try again.
>webms of CNN isnt evidence, try again.
Watch it. Then try to discredit it. I'll wait.
>change the definition
Heh, hilarious how you gays don't like it when it's done to you huh? Lmao
>don't like it when it's done to you
they seriously walked straight into that kek, fukken dumbasses
sure, we'll just make up whatever definitions we want to make ourselves feel smart.
This is just a straight up lie. There were two consecutive negative GDP quarters under Biden.
> daily caller
Nice “source” chudfag. Not boosting Tucker carlsons clicks
Why haven't they learned that "chud" immediately outs them as shills?
You outed yourself chud
Here, you total failure of a human being:
>Nice “source” chudfag. Not boosting Tucker carlsons clicks
Holy hell you did exactly what
described, are you a bot or something?
>Tell me why changing definitions is a bad thing.
I can't tell if you're trolling or just retarded anymore hahahaha
Try again, definitions constantly change
No anon you don't understand. When we refer to people as gays we're only referring to them as being a pile of sticks.
>take a jab
This bro is using the EXACT terminology the media propagandists use. KEK, kys.
You're trying too hard anon. What other would you prefer me to use? Gotten the stab? Had a pin prick? Been immunized?
>You're trying too hard anon.
On the contrary, it was effortless to recognize the newspeak you gay shills are using
You must be legitimately brain dead.
The joy I feel when garden gnome shills like you get cornered and mad is unreal. You guys are hilarious.
There's no cornering. You make threads on the same topic and then freak out when someone uses a phrase that you've seen before and get triggered. I'm legitimately curious what about the phrase getting a jab has triggered you?
>freak out when someone uses a phrase that you've seen before
Except it's the number 1 piece of terminology that gay shills like you and the media use when discussing it. It's clear what camp you're in.
Please enlighten me as to who changes those definitions gaylord, surely it wouldn't be the government, or other political groups pushing and agenda right?
Yes anon, i was sent by the media to use the term get a jab referring to a cold shot.
Precisely, acknowledge your defeat moron.
Sure anon, i will as soon as you acknowledge you aren't using the correct definition of the term vaccine.
>correct definition of the term vaccine.
Somehow we are down to arguing literal semantics because there is nowhere else to turn. Use whatever definition you want, but traditional vaccines and the covid-19 injections have the same intent and effect, with different methods.
And it's an irrelevant point at that.
Anon i'm agreeing with you that mRNA vaccines are the same thing as traditional vaccines but simply using different methods. Both are vaccines down to their basic definition.
>new BAD, old GOOD
Depends how you want to define "vaccine". mRNA is the same as old vaccines in the sense that it is designed to stimulate an immune response, the method is just different.
More word salad. More moving goal posts. More rewriting definitions. Sorry, not working, rabbi.
You have to go back anon.
The nose boys are working overtime in this thread huh
Since when am I not allowed to post more than once. The arborist guys has posted atleast as many as me, if not more. Its hard to have meaningful discussion with one off shitposts
>Admits to shilling
Dude your JIDF training was baaaad, I'd like to speak to your commanding officer.
There's a difference between 15 or 20 posts and like 80 kek, fuckin fag
Imagine giving a fuck about the opinion of someone with a "medical degree". Truly, conceptualize the notion of me ACTUALLY giving your opinion any though because a piece of paper and a garden gnomed institution said you're "smart". Top kek, truly.
yea bro you're so much smarter. the real intelligent people eschewed education. you'll fit in real well after the great die off. the illuminati will hold you in high esteem because you didnt fall for getting a vaccine.
Yes exactly, now chock on my cock while I wipe my shit with your special piece of paper lmao
kek you'd need me to, not like you can get a woman to do it
Lel you garden gnomes are so funny, no ability to refute anything so you seethe with insults. You love to see it.
the fuck is there to refute? you have yet to prove there are excess deaths (or that those deaths are caused by the vaccine) beyond some fucking twitter screenshots.
I don't know who's trolling who anymore.
There are no "trolls." There are anons, shills, and... that's it.
This. Not hard to separate the shills from the actual humans in this thread
This, if they agree with me they are real. If they disagree, they must be shills. Simple as.
We're already dead.
My fellow purebloods, let us rejoice in the knowledge that Israel was among the most "vaccinated" and boosted in all of the world. I have to get to bed now (and will sleep like a baby) so I can get to the gym tomorrow and better myself. garden gnomes are a plague on all of humanity, and their time is again growing short. They're scared, and they should be.
but if da joos control the world, surely they wouldn't have doomed their own populace?
What did they mean by this? Any of you vaxxtards care to comment on this webm?
Anon, they voluntarily went to get injected with a syrup developed by a literal chud because they were told it's what their side has to do. Do not expect any type of rational explanation.
Antivaxx chuds got dunked on again
See you in the next thread
Good night bros
>Antivaxx chuds got dunked on again
Night bro. It was an hour shit posting with you.
>trust me bro guy
Good job trying to use our lingo, you shill filth.
We accept your admission of defeat
>Heh get dunked on and DESTROYED, I will be taking my leave and ignoring all the points I can't refute, fucking chuds!
Its called a bumplock, new to the website friendo?
The squid microbe just hadn't grown large enough yet. Don't worry anon, pretty soon you'll be lifting 4-5x your current max, conditioning your body for the day when you'll need to defend your new masters.
Trumpfags getting irrevocably BTFO
They certainly earned their shekels tonight, boys.
remember when booster shots were a conspiracy
ITT: sexually frustrated incels who will never have a valentine's date throw a temper tantrum because billions of people didn't die
You will never be a woman