How is this shit considered natty if it automatically makes you bigger and >5% stronger just by having a high dose of it in your body

How is this shit considered natty if it automatically makes you bigger and >5% stronger just by having a high dose of it in your body

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are you retarded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      eating bull testicles gives an increase to test, but taking concentrated testosterone is not considered natty

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >eating bull testicles gives an increase to test
        No it doesn't.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It does, obviously its barely effective. But that’s also the case with trying to creatinemaxx by eating beef

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It does, obviously its barely effective.
            It's not effective at all. The testicles don't store testosterone, they create it in the leydig cells and immediately release into the bloodstream. The only testosterone that would be in bull testicles are minute quantities that left the leydig cells but never had a chance to enter general circulation due to the death of the bull. basically whatever nanograms were in the blood of the testicles at time of death.
            Think about it, the average human male has 600 ng/dl of testosterone in the blood at any one instant. (A bull has similar amounts)
            That's 600 nanograms of testosterone in 100 milliliters of blood (half a cup).
            600 nanograms is 0.0006 mg of testosterone in half a cup of blood.
            If you drained a cup of blood out of your body there would only be about 0.001 mg of testosterone in that cup. That's tiny, unmeasurable without fancy expensive equipment.
            There's only 20 mg of testosterone in 40 lbs of bull testicles. (see pic)
            The oral bioavailability of testosterone is 5% so only about 1 mg of testosterone can be absorbed from eating 40 lbs of bull testicles.
            A typical basic beginner steroid cycle is 500 mg per week, which is 71.5 mg per day.
            To mimic this cycle you would have to eat 2860 lbs of bull testicles per day.
            A feasible amount of bull testicles one can eat in a day is around 2 lbs which contains 0.05 mg of testosterone which is nothing compared to the 5 to 10 mg the human body makes per day. If you make 7 mg of testosterone then eating 2 lbs of bull testicles will increase your testosterone to 7.05mg. The guys injecting 500 mg per week are getting at least 50 mg of testosterone per day once the enanthate or whatever ester is cleaved off.
            Basically, liver king is retarded.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What the fuck have i been gargling bull nuts for nothing???

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dont ever change IST

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i don't know, what about you? is pinning 500mg of test-e natty then too because hey testosterone is naturally in our body?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can get 5 g of creatine from eating 2 lbs of beef per day (many people on the carnivore diet do this). Therefore, doing a normal natural activity such as eating meat can give you an effective dose, therefore creatine is natural. Prehistoric humans eating a lot of buffalo or cows could get significant amounts of creatine.
        Injecting testosterone is an artificial activity. It's not possible to get that amount of testosterone into your body partaking in natural human activities.
        So, taking creatine is natural and injecting testosterone is not natural.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it doesn't change your hormonal profile

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For the same reason whey and vitamins are natty, it doesn't actually change your body or hormonal profile, it's just food.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Know that the one singular study showing creatine increases DHT levels is misleading at best
    >Still cant bring myself to take it out of fear the rest of my hair will dry up

    Frustration.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well, at least if we ever start to bald we can go all in.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Caring about your hair.

      What the fuck is this male catwalk model shit? Just lift something heavy and then put it back down, son.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      having this much of fear is a sign of low testosterone.
      High T men take risks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine thinking bald alpha males like The Rock, Jason Statham, Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, and Trump aren't motivation to not be a female and accept hair loss

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >trump
        Trump is a lardass why would you have him as an ideal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you worrying about hair loss? Just take fin, it’s very cheap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally me.
      I've got a big fucking forehead, I can't afford to go Norwood 3.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if you were gonna lose it - you were gonna lose it regardless. i highly doubt creatine is going to make your shit fall out.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How is this shit considered natty
    Because it's basically concentrated meat. It doesn't fuck with your hormones either.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Creatine is a natural part of metabolism. Our body uses it for mechanical work all the time. Consuming creatine supplements just gives our body more of it.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how much of it should I take daily? I weigh 75kg

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      sup me

      i took 2 scoops a day for like 2ish weeks

      just on 1 scoop now, wont kill you if you do 2. people say
      >but muh kidneys
      i have kidney disease and my blood tests have all been fine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is that 1.5g per scoop like mine?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          mines a 1g scoop, as long as you don't do fucking unreasonable amounts everyday you'll be good

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            wait ignore this i'm retarded mine is currently a 5g scoop

            load up for a week or two on 20g a day, then continue w 5g or 10g a day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      5g a day is the standard
      You can front load for a few days thoughever

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      5g
      it doesn't matter your weight, age or anything
      5g is the golden standard, your body stores it overtime, less reduces efficiency, more is pointless
      no you don't need to take huge front load dosages, this is a myth and doesn't do shit
      it's scientifically impossible to speed up creatine gains, the improvements come little by little over long term consumption
      tl;dr 5g

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >scientifically
        biologically would be a better term

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >5g
        >it doesn't matter your weight
        >more is pointless
        You're retarded and don't understand how creatine works. Creatine is stored in skeletal muscle until it reaches complete saturation. More muscle mass allows you to store more creatine. It scales. Most people don't know what their actual muscle mass is so simply it can be ~0.05-0.1 grams of creatine / kg of bodyweight.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3407788/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          so I should just eat all the creatine on hand just to be sure

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >eat
            ngmi

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              hey man it all goes to the same place
              choosing the wrong hole doesn't change that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ah yes let me autistically calculate my daily creatine intake every time my weight fluctuates a little over cutting/bulking/maintaining
          shut the fuck up nerd, 5g is the established universal standard that works for everyone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Mate you don't need to be autistic about it. Work it out once and only change it if you gain 5+ kg of muscle mass. Take your 5g dyel. I'll be over here taking 10g.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Mate you don't need to be autistic about it. Work it out once and only change it if you gain 5+ kg of muscle mass. Take your 5g dyel. I'll be over here taking 10g.

          Do you take it all at once or throughout the day? I am loading right now, so I take 20g at one go, but it would be easier and more palatable to take it throughout the day

  8. 1 month ago
    Giddy

    How is working out considered natty?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >automatically makes you bigger and >5% stronger
    Neither are true dyeltard. Creatine is stored in skeletal muscle to be used in our energy system to create more ATP. It basically allows you say sprint for a second longer or do another rep.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Outside that meme hair loss bullshit, is creatine worth the money? Feels like snake oil to me unless it's super creatine bonded with l-leucine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty cheap and there is actual evidence that it helps, so I'd say yeah. But obviously it's not a silver bullet and it might not make a difference for everyone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It makes a small but proven difference and it’s pretty cheap. It won’t turn you into Zyzz ; diet, sleep and training are still 98% but it’s not a total meme either

        Thanks for the input anons. I'll get some tomorrow

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just make sure to get a reputable brand that is know to actually sell as pure as possible creatine
          Don't go for too cheap and sketchy brands as they may be mixing 50 creatine/50 flour to scam you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            *known

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you have any recommendations?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Bulk supplements is where I get mine
              Don’t fall for the CreaPure meme just make sure it’s creatine monohydrate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It makes a small but proven difference and it’s pretty cheap. It won’t turn you into Zyzz ; diet, sleep and training are still 98% but it’s not a total meme either

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >It won’t turn you into Zyzz
        That's a relief, because I like not being dead at age 22.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          have some respect

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            do you think zyzz (who would want us to make it) would not want us to learn from his mistakes?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Your body makes its own creatine. Your question is as retarded as asking why eating sugar is considered natty.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Creatine leads to increased DHT which in turn leads to increased hair loss
    It’s like a really shitty version of testosterone
    If you’re gonna use creatine, include a 5a reductor like finasteride unless you want to play Russian roulette with balding

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bros like these are the reason why, there should be a verification that you lift, before you're allowed to post anything.

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