How long can a person with a lengthy lifting background go without hitting a certain muscle group or exercise before becoming atrophied/detrained?

How long can a person with a lengthy lifting background go without hitting a certain muscle group or exercise before becoming atrophied/detrained?

Like, if I didn't do any kind of pressing movement such as bench or dips or push ups, how long would my chest and triceps stay big and strong?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I benched 5x315 and stopped for years. When I went back to the gym I could do 5x175

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How long did it take you to get back to 315.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A few weeks
    But the process is slow so it's hard to notice, plus it's easier to regain than to gain new muscle
    In regards to strength I think it's faster both ways around. Quickly lost, quickly regained

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The moment you stop training you start losing gains. It's slow yes but there's no "maintenance". IF you're at natty limit for example and you toil every day in they gym and don't grow anymore then that is now your maintenance. The moment you pull back you will start to lose gains

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cringe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You do start losing gains, but it's like 12% of your mass per year.
      Honestly the act of losing muscle requires extreme atrophy and near any stimulation prevents the atrophy almost entirely.
      >extreme weightlifters show less than 0.1% atrophy on chest muscles just by doing pushups for reference
      Maintenance can easily be met by taking moderate break cycles followed by careful stimulation cycles.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >near any stimulation prevents the atrophy almost entirely
        verifiably false

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          provide the verification

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do a 1rm test on your best lift. Then start skipping it and try again

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              performancism strength fluctuates daily, you could eat 1000 kcal less than you did the other day and it'll probably go down.

              if you stimulate and keep your muscles active, you'll stave off atrophy but you may not be able to keep your bench press or deadlift 1RM the same with the same effort.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do a peaking cycle. You know im right

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >peaking cycle
                why

                You provide no source. I give you common sense

                >common sense
                >using your muscles doesn't prevent them from being atrophied

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >near any stimulation prevents the atrophy almost entirely
              verifiably false

              >shitposting unironically
              It has been studied objectively and undeniably that you will only lose about 1% of your mass per month.
              And yes it has been proven that any physical stimulation reduces this.
              Provide a citation otherwise or frick off.

              weightlifters have dyel benches, a set of pushup is strength training for them as opposed to cardio

              Not an argument

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You provide no source. I give you common sense

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I give you common sense
                not an argument, nice try jeet

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        weightlifters have dyel benches, a set of pushup is strength training for them as opposed to cardio

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's quite possible that your glycogen stores are relatively low pretty soon after you stop lifting (body sees no reason to keep them full when there's no demand) and you might look smaller but you're not really losing any muscle until ~week 4. I stopped lifting exactly 2 weeks ago and couldn't eat well, and I've lost 1 inch on my arms. Once I start lifting again and get more carbs in that inch will be back in a matter of 2 weeks or so. As for strength loss, for me it's usually after a break like this that the last weight I did for reps becomes my 1RM again, but it never took me more than a few weeks to get back there. My longest break from benching were 8 weeks and it took me 4 to get to that strength level again.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A pretty long time, OP.
    I stopped lifting for 16 months a while back due to long work hours (80+/week) during COVID and just being too fricking tired to do jack shit.
    Did my strength plummet when I came back and did it take me about 4 months to get where I was? Yes. Did I look any smaller? No. I did put on some fat because I ate like shit, but in general, I looked 95% the same mass-wise.
    I'd say that you don't likely even lose jack shit for mass until you're laying off for over a year (unless you're immobilized in a hospital bed or some shit, where you'll waste away faster), but strength-wise, a month or two of not training something and I'm set back a lot more than that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You probably won't lose mass but you get more of a skinny fat look

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    About 2-3 months no working out.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You will not atrophy any noticeable amount of muscle if you are healthy hormonally and get good nutrition combined with low stress. Even in very sedentary mode, you will not atrophy much in a healthy state. We are talking like 1-3% in a 3 month range.

    YOU WILL ATROPHY if you have low hormones/bad nutrition/high stress etc. Being in the gym hardcore and growing stress muscles on a unhealthy baseline = far quicker atrophy. Around 10+% range in 2 months and it can keep going depending on how bad your health situation is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to mention that muscle atrophy is a pretty serious indicator of poor health as well. 99% of "atrophy" most people claim is just their muslces losing inflammation/water/glycogen and their strength going down over time... all totally normal things to occur when you arent working out frequently anymore

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lose strength in about 8-9 days

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >big
    Mostly dependent on fluids. I notice a drop off in my size after 2-3 days. This does not indicate atrophy. It indicates that either the pump is fading or that glycogen is depleted (sugar is hydrophilic so the water will follow)
    >strong
    The studies I could find that measure atrophy by 1RM strength seem to indicate 3 to 5 weeks. Who knows. Test it yourself.

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