How long does a casual tri weekly nighttime alcohol indulgence take to turn into a full blown addiction?

How long does a casual tri weekly nighttime alcohol indulgence take to turn into a full blown addiction?

With weed the first 5 years I wasn't addicted and smoke randomly then BAM... I'm 3 weeks off weed and have been taking 3 shots with food every other night to help get me through quittinf..

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    idk depends on how much anxiety you got. But for me it was a few months

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When you get withdrawals, look into family history, some bloodlines are extremely resilient to physiological addiction
    If you want to use the meme tier definition of addiction it could be from the first day up to months, I believe they auto categorize people as alcoholics at 50 weekly standard units of alcohol or when your life starts to be affected by alcohol related issues, whichever happens first
    Find some other way to cope, alcohol is a shit way to cope since it kills your gains

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm coming down off weed and on a bulk and 3 shots of sum super high quality tequila helps me eat and sleep. It's not anxiety I just want the weed cravings to disappear which they slowly are..

      I don't even like alcohol that much. I got kolonopin and it's a miracle drug but I don't want to do it top often and have it turn from an lefit medical aid to a drug addiction.. I don't have significant anxiety, the gym takes care of that. But I do need to eat, a lot.. 3 shots can help me down 1500-2000 caloires before bed...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You do not want to be drinking on a bulk, man, especially as an eating aid. That's a great way to make sure as many calories as possible go directly to fat because your body is busy metabolizing the alcohol.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Idc about muscles or fat rn, I just don't want to be skinny..

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Well you'll definitely gain weight that way. You anorexic or something?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              No I'm quitting weed after a decade and a half of abuse... cannabanoid receptors burnt out and they help regulate appetite...

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Drunk anon here, first drunk in months. Lucky you, I only drink about 5-10 times a year now.

    When I was 19-32 I drank professionally. In my early pro days I could put down a half gallon of vodka a night, pass out, and go to work on 4 hours of sleep, work all day, and do it all over again along with smoking weed.

    That ability slows down with some strange math formula I can't even begin to describe. Completely non-linear.

    I'm pretty sure a lot of it has to do with the body's lack of glutathione production as you age, so getting that shit might help if you're gonna party hard into your 30's and 40's. It's your body's main antioxidant/detoxifier.

    Once you drink a gallon or two of 80 proof a week you will be a 'full blown alcoholic' but still be relatively functional, as long as you drink. You will eventually get to the point where you develop anxiety when sober at the most random times, and it will slowly break you down. It's still not to the point where you're non-functional, and you may still go deeper down the rabbit hole.

    The bottom of the rabbit hole is typically breakdowns in personal relationships with people, like telling your gf/wife some shit that will get you memory holed. That's how most guys end up breaking the addiction - "it's either drink or we go away" type situation. For you single guys that shit potentially rabbit holes even deeper. You could become all consumed to the point where you are never sober aside from passing out asleep, which you will likely eventually act the fool and get arrested, then go into forced rehab after you DT the frick out in a holding cell.

    Alcohol doesn't need 'moderation', it needs strategic direction. Moderation doesn't exist, it's a fairy tale. Even the most basic brain dead chad or stacy will drink until nothing is left. Plan the end of your drinking before you begin. Don't buy a half gallon of 100 proof when a fifth of 80 is overkill. Buy two tall boys of 5.9% ice beer instead of a 24 pack of light beer etc.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this.... this hurts to read
      it hurts because I need to see it.
      wish me luck bros...

      also thank you greatly, anon. you're doing a good service to us here.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I only wish I could keep in touch with you, maybe help you out from my experiences.

        Good luck on the path. Kava Kava is the answer to a lot of what you're asking for, but I'm still pretty new to enjoying it. It's not as potent as alcohol as it doesn't flood your GABA receptors, but it's a whole 'nother level of scratching the drinking itch. Right now I'll take 5-6 pills and chill. Hope I can get some legit root soon so I can try it the way they do in those 3rd world countries.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Where do you get Kava Kava?
          Do you take the 250 mg /400 mg pills?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Moderation doesn't exist, it's a fairy tale
      Not everyone is an addict. Most functional people have fridges filled with beer or cellars filled with wine for social occasions, and they are more than capable of taking out 1 bottle and leaving it at that

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Youre a homosexual. Just stop smoking. A week of fricked up dreams and some sweating at night and you will be fine. You are not having cravings, you are just bored because weed was the centre of your personality and life. Do not replace one drug with another. That you think you can become an alcoholic by having a couple a shots of tequilla a few nights a week shows you are a fricking idiot.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      My withdrawl dreams are nice, my dead dog and grandpa are in there. I hope they keep getting deeper. There are tornados and nukes sometimes but I actually enjoy it and want to go tornado hunting beacuse of them..

      It's not the dreams, it's all the shit over the years I never fully dealt with. All the pain I never fully felt. All bukaking on me now. If u haven't been a stoner for at least a decade its impossible for u to understand

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've consumed almost 1 liter of Vodka and 1 liter of Triple Sec in under 48 hours.
    I've slept 2 hours since 9 am.
    It is now 2:30 am, the next day.
    I have drunk over a liter of alcohol since 9 am and been drunk all day.
    This is alcoholism.
    Don't do it.
    >The fun part is you hit these waves where you are on a trip and reality isn't real

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've been drinking daily for the past 8 years and I still haven't developed an addiction so I'd say you're fine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Made me roar with laughter.
      10/10 would chuckle again.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That means you were addicted to weed, dumbass.and you're dealing with it by drinking. Very normal for someone quitting weed.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have severe insomnia and used to drink every night to fall asleep for an hour or two, shit house coping mechanism but just don't do it for too long if it is helping for the moment. I have to take benzos or ambien most nights to sleep. You'll be alright eventually man, some of us have to struggle more than others. It is what it is

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Stop drinking and smoking anon.
    It makes you weak and dumb.
    You want to be strong and sharp.
    Quit the poison.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you're drinking enough that you have to ask the question, then you should just already consider it an addiction at this point, even if it's just the early stages of an addiction, and nip it in the bud before it gets worse. Honestly just stop drinking and smoking. All it takes is a bit of willpower and effort.

    Drinking messes with your goals and even the slightest leeway you give yourself will set you down the wrong path, and the further down that path you go, the harder it is to come back. I stopped drinking for a few years and got to the best shape I had ever been in. Then I started drinking again, like you, I wasn't getting drunk but I was having a little bit of alcohol, a beer or two, maybe twice a week after work. That eventually turned into a habit and some weeks it would be five days out of seven. In the end it had a knock-on effect on my diet and sleep schedule, and I spent a ton of money that I otherwise would have saved, and overall just took a massive step backwards. All of that without ever actually getting drunk like you would expect an alcoholic to do.

    Am I an alcoholic? Depends how you define it, I don't *need* alcohol to function but my relationship with alcohol has definitely been detrimental to my life, so I think it's safest to interpret addiction in the most extreme way so that you avoid all pitfalls - don't wait until you're getting plastered at midday to call yourself an alcoholic. When you drink little but often, the trap is that you know you should stop, but you convince yourself it's not so bad because your habit doesn't have the immediate life-ruining consequences that full-blown alcoholism does. So it's a slow descent into ruin and you don't notice it until it's too late.

    tl;dr just stop drinking

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Very insightful post, nice one anon

      I'm weaning myself off alcohol, quite sick of it (textbook alco here, but I'm down to 2 sessions a week from 5-7, still looking to eliminate it entirely)

      Posts like this and the other positive, realistic ones in this thread are really helping me out this time. Was sober for 7 years and made a moronic decision 1.5 years ago, I know the last piece of the puzzle is getting IST again but for now I'm getting my attitude right

      Thanks all

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Any time you feel like relapsing and getting drunk, just remember that you would be doing more harm to your brain and body than a junkie shooting up heroin. It's not worth it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks mate, that's a... uhh, a sobering statistic. That actually hit me pretty hard, heroin's been a factor in a family members complete inability to be a decent human being, I don't want to be like that... Clearly doing some pretty serious damage to myself as well.

          Currently looking at bikes and getting ready to return to the gym, there's only one way out of this and I know what needs to be done
          All the best anon

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Gayest thread on IST right now. If you don’t want to smoke or drink, just don’t do it. Otherwise, your will-power is shit or you don’t really want to quit. It’s not that complicated, homosexuals.

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