If you’re not from Ireland, England, or Scotland, you’re not white. Finns are chinks, Russians are chinks, Danish and the rest of the far north are snow morons. Frenchies and the rest have dark hair from being raped by Italians and Spanish who were raped by Shit-skin neanderthals. The Isles of the least raped are the true whites with naturally fair skin and the full spectum of hair colors.
Now if you’re a true white you drink milk, eat potatoes, and oats and you LOVE them.
I love my oats. 1.5 cups in a blender, with whole milk, peanut butter, banana, and my protein powder is the breakfast of champions.
https://i.imgur.com/PfOQ8oi.jpg
i take it as mini pre-breakfast..so it helps a lot >first breakfast (6:30-7 AM), just after waking up..oats,yogurt,berries,banana,1 scoop of peanut butter >second (real, 8-8:30AM) breakfast, 4 eggs with ham >coffee >smoothie with protein, fruits and peanut butter
Now its 8 AM and you already had about 700 calories of sweet sweet nutrients over a period of an hour
Fuck me, been eating like this in the morning for a week now and the gains are incredible
Every day. >1 cup oats, 2 cups water, a pinch of salt >cook on medium till desired consistency >poor in half a cup of frozen blueberries
Simple, cheap, tasty, keeps you full for a long time for few calories.
MEGA BASED
oat meal is one of my favourite meal of the day
constantly changing flavours from using different berries, honey or just the whey protein
savoury, sweet, natural flavours
warm and filling
how american you got to be to fear oatmeal
every morning for many years now i've eaten the same oatmeal breakfast >1 cup old fashioned oats >2 cups whole milk >large spoonful of peanut butter >microwave for a minute >add in banana
I like addig a piece or two of dark chocolate sometimes, or peanut butter (it melts in the microwave then you can mix it)
a banana, frozen fruits. Depends how i feel and what i have at hand
Look, I've tried the whole oats thing. It gave me MASSIVE shits, horrible gas, and unbearable bloating. Literally every time I had oats for breakfast I'd spend like half an hour in the toilet at work, shitting my damned soul out. Then I saw the light and went full carnivore. No digestive issues ever again. I didn't even realise how bad it was until it got better.
Why on Earth would you think that? It's horrible, it made me feel gross, it caused a mess and a stink, it was embarrasing in social situations when I had to literally leave the room so I could rip a massive stinky one. There is nothing good about intestinal distress. Now I rarely ever fart, I'm never bloated, I shit once a day or two days, and generally don't notice my digestive processes almost at all.
Humans aren't cows, we're not supposed to fart and belch all day, and we're not supposed to be taking massive steamy shits three times a day.
I really like to fart in front of my gf, the more rancid the fart the better, my favourite thing to do is completely covering her with a blanket and ripping a really nasty one. I wish I was lactose intolerant for this reason
> completely covering her with a blanket and ripping a really nasty one
I did this to my gf when we first started dating, like a couple months in. She started dry heaving and threw the cover off. Gotta establish dominance by forcing her to inhale your scent.
Same, tried oats but they gave me the same shitting experience as well.
Carbs are fine for me otherwise in moderation but oats just rape my gut and ass.
I tried carnivore for a week.
After 4 days i stopped shitting and felt low energy.
No thanks. I'm sticking to a balanced diet instead of meme diets. If something upsets your stomach take it out of your diet instead of doing meme diets.
>200g of oats every morning
healthy, tasty and cheap
one of the holy grail of food
got me through university when I had little money
1kg for about 90cents (in 2023 it's 120cents) >3.540kcal >132g Protein
won't get any better than this
the only thing even close are lentils
i wouldn't say crucial, you have plenty of options, i would say they're a no brainer that you can not go wrong with
it's very cheap and nutritious
amazing protein to calories ratio too, for the price
i eat them daily for dinner, i mix like 100~150g of oats with milk and my country's version of cream of wheat
Oats are old fitness/bodybuilding meme that stick all these years because it's easy to prepare/eat and "viking strength" memes
Whole-grain bread and oats pretty much have the same macro and micros per 100 cal
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/2346397/nutrients
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/335240/nutrients
The only thing with oats though, you can't devour large amounts, while you can eat 200gr bread no problem. So if you wanna feel full, eat oats, otherwise eat different type of carb (like potatoes, bread, rice etc they're all tastier imo)
i take it as mini pre-breakfast..so it helps a lot >first breakfast (6:30-7 AM), just after waking up..oats,yogurt,berries,banana,1 scoop of peanut butter >second (real, 8-8:30AM) breakfast, 4 eggs with ham >coffee >smoothie with protein, fruits and peanut butter
Now its 8 AM and you already had about 700 calories of sweet sweet nutrients over a period of an hour
Fuck me, been eating like this in the morning for a week now and the gains are incredible
Every day. >1 cup oats, 2 cups water, a pinch of salt >cook on medium till desired consistency >poor in half a cup of frozen blueberries
Simple, cheap, tasty, keeps you full for a long time for few calories.
MEGA BASED
I have about 80 grams mixed with 7g non-alkali processed cacao powder and 15g of powdered peanut butter mixed in, along with my omelet, milk, coffee, and pineapple juice, every morning, 30 minutes before I work out.
every morning for many years now i've eaten the same oatmeal breakfast >1 cup old fashioned oats >2 cups whole milk >large spoonful of peanut butter >microwave for a minute >add in banana
oats are the poor man's buckwheat
more antinutrients, harvested with glyphosphate, less protein, worse micronutrient spread
it's not bad, but not the best either
not bad just a bit worse. notably imo buckwheat has better copper/zinc ratio (copper often too low in diet especially if zinc supplements are taken), better magnesium/potassium, higher niacin, lower fat. oats have higher selenium which is pretty big granted, higher zinc and iron (though these more easily obtained from meat), higher fat so more calories but less a strict carb source.
splitting hairs when eggs and meat are the most important foods.
Google is probably giving a figure based on cooked oats - most of the mass in cooked porrage is from the water.
When Google and your food packaging disagree, always go with your food packaging.
How do I make my oatmeal not look like a fucking soup? I always use 30-50g of oats, 2 cups of milk microwave for 2 minutes but the oats won't absorb the milk to give me that dry texture.
Also, heating milk for that long isn't it going to deplete it's nutrients and protein?
Soak it overnight in the milk and then heat it in the morning. If you're using pasteurized milk it's already been fucked, heating it a bit more won't do more damage
Cook on the stovetop with no lid, cook and stir until desired thiccness. Even with instant oats just pour some hot water or milk in the microwave will fuck your oats up 110% of the time. >tl;dr stop using the mircowave
Natural sugars like fruit and honey are the best, but potatoes are also acceptable and much, much better than grains. Apparently this is not a new discovery
Real honey is so fucking good I use it as a sugar substitute when the tastes agree. Makes me feel great too, like ginger tea with honey and a few drops of lemon juice? I wear my coom diaper before I take a sip of that.
>IST doesn't actually know anything about nutrition past the most basic broscience "eat more protein" shit.
I know more about nutrition than you, and grains CAN be part of a healthy diet, though that isn't to say they don't have shortcomings.
inb4 you link me to a 2 hour LOWCARDOWNUNDER video about the carb-insulin theory of diabetes.
>I know more about nutrition than you
Son, you haven't been alive anywhere near long enough to claim something like this.
>grains CAN be part of a healthy diet
Please explain why anyone would eat grains over literally any other source of carbs.
>carb-insulin theory of diabetes.
Oh, so you didn't read the thread before you decided to spout off some retarded shit?
Natural sugars like fruit and honey are the best, but potatoes are also acceptable and much, much better than grains. Apparently this is not a new discovery [...]
>Natural sugars like fruit and honey are the best
IST doesn't actually know anything about nutrition.
>Please explain why anyone would eat grains over literally any other source of carbs.
Cost, culinary versatility, convenience.
If you don't have impaired digestion via autoimmune diseases within your gut lining, then there is no advantage to tubers over grains.
Let me guess, the LECTINS or the SAPONINS are gonna give me cancer in my ass?
Get over yourself you fat boomer fuck.
>Cost, culinary versatility, convenience.
But not a single one of these has anything to do with nutrition, which was the topic of conversation.
>If you don't have impaired digestion via autoimmune diseases within your gut lining, then there is no advantage to tubers over grains.
A diet heavy in grains will inevitably damage the gut lining of anyone, regardless of any genetic conditions. Even if this weren't the case, as you yourself have already admitted, grains have numerous "shortcomings", many of which can be avoided by eating tubers instead, and all of which can be avoided by eating fruit instead of either.
I'm not sure why you came at me with some shit like >I know more about nutrition than you
only to have absolutely nothing to back it up. Embarrassing.
>But not a single one of these has anything to do with nutrition, which was the topic of conversation.
You asked him "why" someone might eat one carb over another. All of the reasons he gave are valid >A diet heavy in grains will inevitably damage the gut lining of anyone, regardless of any genetic conditions. Even if this weren't the case, as you yourself have already admitted, grains have numerous "shortcomings", many of which can be avoided by eating tubers instead, and all of which can be avoided by eating fruit instead of either.
citation needed
>only to have absolutely nothing to back it up. Embarrassing.
Ironic
2 months ago
Anonymous
>You asked him "why" someone might eat one carb over another. All of the reasons he gave are valid
This is a textbook example of a disingenuous argument.
Why is it that sugar based is superior? It seems like the amount of fruits and athlete would have to eat to get enough carbs would be huge?
Oatmeal and bread taste great and are simple to prep; what makes rice and potatoes superior?
>Why is it that sugar based is superior?
The short answer is that fruit wants to be eaten while grains don't. Most fruits are specifically designed to be eaten as a means of spreading seeds, which survive digestion and are deposited with feces in a location far from the place they were eaten.
Grains on the other hand are just seeds, and they are intended to grow into a new plant, not be eaten. They have evolved a variety of protective mechanisms to fend off disease and fungi and insects, all of which are chemical, since plants can't run away from predators. While some of these chemicals are benign or even beneficial for humans, the vast majority are not. Fruit is preferable as a carb source because it has far, far less of these compounds.
>what makes rice and potatoes superior?
Compared to other grains, white rice is superior because the husk, bran, and germ of the rice which are removed via the milling process are also the parts which contain the majority of the compounds you want to avoid. Potatoes are superior for a similar reason: being mostly underground, they are far less subject to predation and haven't needed to develop the same level of chemical defenses as above-ground plants.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Which fruits do you recommend, and how to consume them? Oats are easily measured and bread comes in slices. Too many bananas and I shit up a storm.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Personally I prefer citrus and tropical fruits. Stuff that's adapted to a warmer environment can generally stay preserved better during the shipping process. Frozen concentrates are better than you'd think because they're processed and preserved very quickly after being picked so maintain their freshness very well. I usually get my fruit from smoothies and my lazy breakfast smoothie (orange juice concentrate, whatever frozen fruit I have on hand, collagen powder) ends up around 700 calories.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This guy claims that fruits are the more based carb. That they Want To Be Eaten more than a potato Wants To Be Eaten.
Name one reason potatoes are not the most based carb
2 months ago
Anonymous
Correct. The best foods are ones that are either intended to be food (fruit, honey, milk) or that aren't intended to be food, but have physical rather than chemical defense mechanisms (meat). Animals don't want to be eaten but if you can overcome their physical defenses and eat them anyway, there are no harmful defensive compounds in their meat like there are in seeds or vegetables.
2 months ago
Anonymous
So, no vegetables then? Could you list out the foods you actually think useful for human life??
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Could you list out the foods you actually think useful for human life??
Correct. The best foods are ones that are either intended to be food (fruit, honey, milk) or that aren't intended to be food, but have physical rather than chemical defense mechanisms (meat). Animals don't want to be eaten but if you can overcome their physical defenses and eat them anyway, there are no harmful defensive compounds in their meat like there are in seeds or vegetables.
>fruit, honey, milk, meat
This is what humans ate for the vast, vast, vast majority of our existence. Vegetables are fine in small amounts as flavoring but you shouldn't be eating lots of them on a daily basis. If you're determined to eat lots of vegetables, anything growing underground is preferable to anything growing aboveground. Compared to grains, vegetables aren't that bad. But for the most part, plants should be used medicinally, not as food.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Interesting stuff. May I ask where you learned all this? And how it's affected you?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>May I ask where you learned all this?
Over a very wide range of sources over many years. Lots of nutrition studies covering the past century of research in food and nutrition, lots of evolutionary biology, lots of common sense. >And how it's affected you?
I've had some huge improvements in how I feel after easing myself into a diet like this that's (by modern standards) pretty restrictive. My overall energy levels improved, quality of sleep improved, various aches and pains virtually disappeared (I'm in my late thirties) and so on.
I don't have a gall bladder and so can't handle lots of fats. Would such a diet approach still work for me? Or would my macros get all weird?
The ideal macro ratio is something like 80:10:10 carbs:fats:protein so you're basically being forced into the optimal fat intake already. Your caloric intake should be mostly fruit supplemented by nutrient-dense meats - organ meats - most of which aren't very fatty. Lower the carbs if you need more protein but keeping fat at 10% or less of your caloric intake is what everyone should be doing.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>A bunch on non-answers and pseudo-science
opinion discarded
Same. Oats and grains in general fuck you over the long term.
[...]
Cope. Even in ancient times all people who relied on bread were known to have stomach issues and their wheat was considerably better than ours.
At 15 years into eating oats I can say without any doubt: oats consumed long term do cause inflammation
>Anecdotal "muh ancient human" nonsense, no actually proof provided aside from personal experience and saying "inflammation", which is effectively a meme buzzword in nutrition
Opinion discarded.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>>A bunch on non-answers and pseudo-science
What do you expect, you want me to give you a link to every study I've read over the past decade? I'm not here to spoon feed you. Either you're smart enough to realize the basic intuitive logic behind what I'm recommending and go do your own research or you're not. Expecting someone on a site like this to provide conclusive proof of something as broad and complex as what I'm claiming is absurd.
This
>You asked him "why" someone might eat one carb over another. All of the reasons he gave are valid
This is a textbook example of a disingenuous argument.
[...] >Why is it that sugar based is superior?
The short answer is that fruit wants to be eaten while grains don't. Most fruits are specifically designed to be eaten as a means of spreading seeds, which survive digestion and are deposited with feces in a location far from the place they were eaten.
Grains on the other hand are just seeds, and they are intended to grow into a new plant, not be eaten. They have evolved a variety of protective mechanisms to fend off disease and fungi and insects, all of which are chemical, since plants can't run away from predators. While some of these chemicals are benign or even beneficial for humans, the vast majority are not. Fruit is preferable as a carb source because it has far, far less of these compounds.
>what makes rice and potatoes superior?
Compared to other grains, white rice is superior because the husk, bran, and germ of the rice which are removed via the milling process are also the parts which contain the majority of the compounds you want to avoid. Potatoes are superior for a similar reason: being mostly underground, they are far less subject to predation and haven't needed to develop the same level of chemical defenses as above-ground plants.
is the best explanation you're going to get and if you need more "proof" than that, go get it yourself.
That ratio is maddeningly protein-scarce man. What would become of my muscles if I ate like that?! Is there a protein-er approach that is pseudo viable in your estimation?
We need way less protein than people think. Especially when it comes to overall health and longevity, a lower protein intake is much better. But you can feel free to lower your carb intake to make room for more protein. As far as macro ratios go, keeping fat low is the most important part.
2 months ago
Anonymous
That ratio is maddeningly protein-scarce man. What would become of my muscles if I ate like that?! Is there a protein-er approach that is pseudo viable in your estimation?
2 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have a gall bladder and so can't handle lots of fats. Would such a diet approach still work for me? Or would my macros get all weird?
>Scoop of wheat-bran and oats. >Salt >Homemade bone broth >Whole milk.
Made passing stool at the end of the day much easier than when it was vegetable soup (mainly for the bone broth).
Also served with 3 eggs (whole milk, salt, mix, fried on pure butter) and kefir and you've got a perfect breakfast.
I always leave these threads less knowledgeable than when I went in. The debates about optimal carbs are endless and seem totally inconclusive. Still have no clue whether rice, pitatoes, yams, oatmeal, or bread is better.
>The debates about optimal carbs are endless and seem totally inconclusive.
Because most people argue from a point of emotion, >i like to eat X carb therefore they must be the best/healthiest
rather than objectively considering which one is the best.
Of the carbs you listed, bread and oatmeal are tied for the worst, brown rice is slightly better, white rice and potatoes are much better, and yams are the best. That said, sugar-based carbs are always preferable to starch-based carbs. Sugars have always been the natural source of carbs for humans, with starches being either a starvation food (tubers) or something unnatural that was introduced very recently via agriculture (grains).
Why is it that sugar based is superior? It seems like the amount of fruits and athlete would have to eat to get enough carbs would be huge?
Oatmeal and bread taste great and are simple to prep; what makes rice and potatoes superior?
>15 years of oats >over time reach a point where allergies and everything just doesn't get better >stomach issues >energy issues
Nah. Oats are just questionable for eating constantly. Cooked meals will always be superior to oats and I am considering replacing them entirely.
I'm an opportunist feeder and can handle most things.
What I'm not designed for as I've noticed is eating herbivore feed for an extended period.
I've ate it daily some periods and it really messes my whole body up with inflammation in guts, joints, all over.
But it's yummy and prepared right some poison once in a while is fine.
That's the cringiest way I've ever heard someone say "I have a weak digestive system and oats hurt my tummy". >I'm an opportunist feeder >Herbivore food
get the fuck out of here
Same. Oats and grains in general fuck you over the long term.
https://i.imgur.com/T9CDMeR.jpg
That's the cringiest way I've ever heard someone say "I have a weak digestive system and oats hurt my tummy". >I'm an opportunist feeder >Herbivore food
get the fuck out of here
Cope. Even in ancient times all people who relied on bread were known to have stomach issues and their wheat was considerably better than ours.
At 15 years into eating oats I can say without any doubt: oats consumed long term do cause inflammation
>1 cup steel cut oats >1 cup whole milk >2 scoops whey protein
Put it in a container with a lid, shake vigorously, leave it in the fridge overnight and in the morning you've got a filling meal that's high in carbs/protein for cheap. Since I started doing this I have way more energy and I shit like clockwork. Until someone can prove to me that oats are bad for me without using nonsense anecdotal evidence I will continue to eat them.
only individuals with mulatto-tastebuds despise oats
Actual white here. I don't like oats
if it weren't for your trips i'd claim "post skin", but
>i kneel
If you’re not from Ireland, England, or Scotland, you’re not white. Finns are chinks, Russians are chinks, Danish and the rest of the far north are snow morons. Frenchies and the rest have dark hair from being raped by Italians and Spanish who were raped by Shit-skin neanderthals. The Isles of the least raped are the true whites with naturally fair skin and the full spectum of hair colors.
Now if you’re a true white you drink milk, eat potatoes, and oats and you LOVE them.
Gaelic Chad supremacy wins again
Only anglo-saxons are white, micks are morons
>here is your scottish masterrace, bro
>Ireland
Potatomoron cope
Name one reason potatoes are not the most based carb
Ir*sh >people grow them
Black and love oats
No it's not crucial, it has good nutrients and it's cheap, that's it
I'm Scottish, oats are my ancestral carbohydrate, like durum wheat for continental Europeans and rice for asians.
and fruits for africans and potatoes south americanas
Nobody asked
There are grains in every culture you fucking racist
He's not a racist just because he's talking about Africa and doesn't know too much about its culture, there's nothing hateful in what he said.
Bro have you even heard of yams? Africa is also a huge continent with a lot of different cultures.
Traditional West African carbs include yam, rice, and plantains.
In south america we eat mostly pasta rice potatoes and corn for carbs. Oats are cool too, but we prefer crunchy bread
Maybe there is some truth in what you said. I'm part scottish and I fucking love porridge for breakfast.
I thought that was Tunnocks Snowballs
No it's not crucil but it's a nice healthy (and imo tasty) source of carbs. Bonus, it takes really well to protein powder being mixed in.
So it's not crucial but definitely a goat-tier food.
I ate it growing up and can't stand it anymore without berries
Now I just eat muesli/granola with milk for breakfast
Nothing is crucial just find healthy foods you like and eat the amount you need.
If I want reducing carbs right now, I'd eat it daily.
Old people food
Are oats a good protein source? Is it ok to eat it
every day?
get some oats and add proton powder and pb2 to it maybe a lil coconut flour for extra fiber.
1 cup oats
1 cup whey protien
Milk to desired thickness
Dusted brown sugar
Microwave
Yep, that's breakfast every morning.
>1 cup whey protien
Wut?
>he doesn't mix his morning protein shake with his morning oats
NGMI
>he doesnt have a protien shake along with his protien shake oats
Ngmi
>not doing a batch of steel cut for the whole week
>milk
imagine not wanting to add more protein to my breakfast
swap sugar with spoonful honey and you golden
Oh and pb2 if you fancy
Post body
so you fags can fap to it? no thanks.
but 6'3 210lbs
Exactly. I don't want some chud fag using me in their fantasy
Disgusting. Quick oats or anything not made in a stovetop with whole milk is substandard. Microwave?
>1:1 ratio oats to whey
imagine the texture
It's fuckin THICC bro like concrete it's gonna clean you out like a pipe cleaner especially if you have some coffee with it
It's very thick. Like pancake batter. I'll post it tomorrow morning if this threads still up.
I like addig a piece or two of dark chocolate sometimes, or peanut butter (it melts in the microwave then you can mix it)
a banana, frozen fruits. Depends how i feel and what i have at hand
I eat 7 scoops of it every day, 3 scoops for overnight oats and 4 scoops for pancakes
I like mixing 1/2 cup of oatmeal with a serving of greek yogurt in a pinch. Satisfying quick breakfast
Look, I've tried the whole oats thing. It gave me MASSIVE shits, horrible gas, and unbearable bloating. Literally every time I had oats for breakfast I'd spend like half an hour in the toilet at work, shitting my damned soul out. Then I saw the light and went full carnivore. No digestive issues ever again. I didn't even realise how bad it was until it got better.
Oats are a meme, humans can't digest that crap.
>MASSIVE shits, horrible gas
That's a good thing though
Why on Earth would you think that? It's horrible, it made me feel gross, it caused a mess and a stink, it was embarrasing in social situations when I had to literally leave the room so I could rip a massive stinky one. There is nothing good about intestinal distress. Now I rarely ever fart, I'm never bloated, I shit once a day or two days, and generally don't notice my digestive processes almost at all.
Humans aren't cows, we're not supposed to fart and belch all day, and we're not supposed to be taking massive steamy shits three times a day.
I really like to fart in front of my gf, the more rancid the fart the better, my favourite thing to do is completely covering her with a blanket and ripping a really nasty one. I wish I was lactose intolerant for this reason
> completely covering her with a blanket and ripping a really nasty one
I did this to my gf when we first started dating, like a couple months in. She started dry heaving and threw the cover off. Gotta establish dominance by forcing her to inhale your scent.
Is it just you posting this carnivore meme every thread or is there a whole team?
Same here, oats fuck my stomach up. Really unfortunate, since I used to love eating them
Same, tried oats but they gave me the same shitting experience as well.
Carbs are fine for me otherwise in moderation but oats just rape my gut and ass.
I tried carnivore for a week.
After 4 days i stopped shitting and felt low energy.
No thanks. I'm sticking to a balanced diet instead of meme diets. If something upsets your stomach take it out of your diet instead of doing meme diets.
I love my oats. 1.5 cups in a blender, with whole milk, peanut butter, banana, and my protein powder is the breakfast of champions.
pretty mid macros, not worth it when cutting, but it's nice to bake with, instead of standard flour
>200g of oats every morning
healthy, tasty and cheap
one of the holy grail of food
got me through university when I had little money
1kg for about 90cents (in 2023 it's 120cents)
>3.540kcal
>132g Protein
won't get any better than this
the only thing even close are lentils
I eat oats and pretend I'm a gladiator eating my gruel ration.
i wouldn't say crucial, you have plenty of options, i would say they're a no brainer that you can not go wrong with
it's very cheap and nutritious
amazing protein to calories ratio too, for the price
i eat them daily for dinner, i mix like 100~150g of oats with milk and my country's version of cream of wheat
Oats are old fitness/bodybuilding meme that stick all these years because it's easy to prepare/eat and "viking strength" memes
Whole-grain bread and oats pretty much have the same macro and micros per 100 cal
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/2346397/nutrients
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/335240/nutrients
The only thing with oats though, you can't devour large amounts, while you can eat 200gr bread no problem. So if you wanna feel full, eat oats, otherwise eat different type of carb (like potatoes, bread, rice etc they're all tastier imo)
iirc oats had more soluble fiber vs (wholegrain) bread's insoluble, and soluble increases your bristol stool scale number while insoluble decreases it
they should have chosen worse pictures those poos look yummy af
the type 6 crispbread would go very well with some camembert
I'm not a peasant nor a slave.
Mostly bread and porridge until the 1850s or so.
i take it as mini pre-breakfast..so it helps a lot
>first breakfast (6:30-7 AM), just after waking up..oats,yogurt,berries,banana,1 scoop of peanut butter
>second (real, 8-8:30AM) breakfast, 4 eggs with ham
>coffee
>smoothie with protein, fruits and peanut butter
Now its 8 AM and you already had about 700 calories of sweet sweet nutrients over a period of an hour
Fuck me, been eating like this in the morning for a week now and the gains are incredible
How many grams do you guys put in a serving?
I use 60g with 250ml milk but I'm still hungry after that tbh.
OH ALLAH MY post number WOW OH Double. Digits. WoooHOW
idk it depends on the bowl i serve it in
Tastes okay but it's basically pointless and also highly contaminated with glyphosate
I actually like boiled barley better
Every day.
>1 cup oats, 2 cups water, a pinch of salt
>cook on medium till desired consistency
>poor in half a cup of frozen blueberries
Simple, cheap, tasty, keeps you full for a long time for few calories.
MEGA BASED
I do and no. It’s nice for breakfasts but by no means required.
oat meal is one of my favourite meal of the day
constantly changing flavours from using different berries, honey or just the whey protein
savoury, sweet, natural flavours
warm and filling
how american you got to be to fear oatmeal
I have about 80 grams mixed with 7g non-alkali processed cacao powder and 15g of powdered peanut butter mixed in, along with my omelet, milk, coffee, and pineapple juice, every morning, 30 minutes before I work out.
Just had some oats with pic related and banana. Was pretty good
I like oats, but I don't think they're essential for anything except oatmeal and oat based foods and products.
Potatoes are better
every morning for many years now i've eaten the same oatmeal breakfast
>1 cup old fashioned oats
>2 cups whole milk
>large spoonful of peanut butter
>microwave for a minute
>add in banana
They keep me full but they don't fill me up.
So not worth when cutting, but great for maintaining/bulking.
I use it as flour instead of All Purpose though, just blend it.
Low S or High A tier carb.
oats are the poor man's buckwheat
more antinutrients, harvested with glyphosphate, less protein, worse micronutrient spread
it's not bad, but not the best either
oatmeal 100g
iron 5,3 mg
magnesium 130
zinc 3,2
sounds pretty good to me
not bad just a bit worse. notably imo buckwheat has better copper/zinc ratio (copper often too low in diet especially if zinc supplements are taken), better magnesium/potassium, higher niacin, lower fat. oats have higher selenium which is pretty big granted, higher zinc and iron (though these more easily obtained from meat), higher fat so more calories but less a strict carb source.
splitting hairs when eggs and meat are the most important foods.
ill have to try out buckwheat then for a variety for more copper, i cant eat the same things every day anyway, no reason to suffer for nothing
>literally gruel, slop, filth
No I never eat that shit
Apparently oats are an old meme.
Pic from 18th century book
Not very scientific, but pretty based
Still prefer oats to taters though
Wheat flakes are superior and taste better too.
Sometimes I mix it with some oats though
gebaseerd
Question here about proteine in oats.
Google says it only has 2,5 grams per 100g but the box here says 14g protein. What do I trust here?
Anyone?
Google is probably giving a figure based on cooked oats - most of the mass in cooked porrage is from the water.
When Google and your food packaging disagree, always go with your food packaging.
Oats + whey + cocoa + sliced bananas = ultimate post morning workout protein breakfast
Add a tall glass of water BUDDEH and it'll get you felling IST and fresh and ready for the day
How do I make my oatmeal not look like a fucking soup? I always use 30-50g of oats, 2 cups of milk microwave for 2 minutes but the oats won't absorb the milk to give me that dry texture.
Also, heating milk for that long isn't it going to deplete it's nutrients and protein?
Yeah, heating milk means all the calories magically evaporate. My fat acceptance studies friend told me so.
Soak it overnight in the milk and then heat it in the morning. If you're using pasteurized milk it's already been fucked, heating it a bit more won't do more damage
I'm using 3% fat milk.
Cook on the stovetop with no lid, cook and stir until desired thiccness. Even with instant oats just pour some hot water or milk in the microwave will fuck your oats up 110% of the time.
>tl;dr stop using the mircowave
If you're eating grains of any kind then you're fucking up, period.
IST doesn't actually know anything about nutrition past the most basic broscience "eat more protein" shit.
where should you get carbs from then? eating a pound of fruit a day doesn't seem sustainable
Natural sugars like fruit and honey are the best, but potatoes are also acceptable and much, much better than grains. Apparently this is not a new discovery
Real honey is so fucking good I use it as a sugar substitute when the tastes agree. Makes me feel great too, like ginger tea with honey and a few drops of lemon juice? I wear my coom diaper before I take a sip of that.
>IST doesn't actually know anything about nutrition past the most basic broscience "eat more protein" shit.
I know more about nutrition than you, and grains CAN be part of a healthy diet, though that isn't to say they don't have shortcomings.
inb4 you link me to a 2 hour LOWCARDOWNUNDER video about the carb-insulin theory of diabetes.
Post body (you won't)
>I know more about nutrition than you
Son, you haven't been alive anywhere near long enough to claim something like this.
>grains CAN be part of a healthy diet
Please explain why anyone would eat grains over literally any other source of carbs.
>carb-insulin theory of diabetes.
Oh, so you didn't read the thread before you decided to spout off some retarded shit?
>Natural sugars like fruit and honey are the best
IST doesn't actually know anything about nutrition.
>Please explain why anyone would eat grains over literally any other source of carbs.
Cost, culinary versatility, convenience.
If you don't have impaired digestion via autoimmune diseases within your gut lining, then there is no advantage to tubers over grains.
Let me guess, the LECTINS or the SAPONINS are gonna give me cancer in my ass?
Get over yourself you fat boomer fuck.
>Cost, culinary versatility, convenience.
But not a single one of these has anything to do with nutrition, which was the topic of conversation.
>If you don't have impaired digestion via autoimmune diseases within your gut lining, then there is no advantage to tubers over grains.
A diet heavy in grains will inevitably damage the gut lining of anyone, regardless of any genetic conditions. Even if this weren't the case, as you yourself have already admitted, grains have numerous "shortcomings", many of which can be avoided by eating tubers instead, and all of which can be avoided by eating fruit instead of either.
I'm not sure why you came at me with some shit like
>I know more about nutrition than you
only to have absolutely nothing to back it up. Embarrassing.
>But not a single one of these has anything to do with nutrition, which was the topic of conversation.
You asked him "why" someone might eat one carb over another. All of the reasons he gave are valid
>A diet heavy in grains will inevitably damage the gut lining of anyone, regardless of any genetic conditions. Even if this weren't the case, as you yourself have already admitted, grains have numerous "shortcomings", many of which can be avoided by eating tubers instead, and all of which can be avoided by eating fruit instead of either.
citation needed
>only to have absolutely nothing to back it up. Embarrassing.
Ironic
>You asked him "why" someone might eat one carb over another. All of the reasons he gave are valid
This is a textbook example of a disingenuous argument.
>Why is it that sugar based is superior?
The short answer is that fruit wants to be eaten while grains don't. Most fruits are specifically designed to be eaten as a means of spreading seeds, which survive digestion and are deposited with feces in a location far from the place they were eaten.
Grains on the other hand are just seeds, and they are intended to grow into a new plant, not be eaten. They have evolved a variety of protective mechanisms to fend off disease and fungi and insects, all of which are chemical, since plants can't run away from predators. While some of these chemicals are benign or even beneficial for humans, the vast majority are not. Fruit is preferable as a carb source because it has far, far less of these compounds.
>what makes rice and potatoes superior?
Compared to other grains, white rice is superior because the husk, bran, and germ of the rice which are removed via the milling process are also the parts which contain the majority of the compounds you want to avoid. Potatoes are superior for a similar reason: being mostly underground, they are far less subject to predation and haven't needed to develop the same level of chemical defenses as above-ground plants.
Which fruits do you recommend, and how to consume them? Oats are easily measured and bread comes in slices. Too many bananas and I shit up a storm.
Personally I prefer citrus and tropical fruits. Stuff that's adapted to a warmer environment can generally stay preserved better during the shipping process. Frozen concentrates are better than you'd think because they're processed and preserved very quickly after being picked so maintain their freshness very well. I usually get my fruit from smoothies and my lazy breakfast smoothie (orange juice concentrate, whatever frozen fruit I have on hand, collagen powder) ends up around 700 calories.
This guy claims that fruits are the more based carb. That they Want To Be Eaten more than a potato Wants To Be Eaten.
Correct. The best foods are ones that are either intended to be food (fruit, honey, milk) or that aren't intended to be food, but have physical rather than chemical defense mechanisms (meat). Animals don't want to be eaten but if you can overcome their physical defenses and eat them anyway, there are no harmful defensive compounds in their meat like there are in seeds or vegetables.
So, no vegetables then? Could you list out the foods you actually think useful for human life??
>Could you list out the foods you actually think useful for human life??
>fruit, honey, milk, meat
This is what humans ate for the vast, vast, vast majority of our existence. Vegetables are fine in small amounts as flavoring but you shouldn't be eating lots of them on a daily basis. If you're determined to eat lots of vegetables, anything growing underground is preferable to anything growing aboveground. Compared to grains, vegetables aren't that bad. But for the most part, plants should be used medicinally, not as food.
Interesting stuff. May I ask where you learned all this? And how it's affected you?
>May I ask where you learned all this?
Over a very wide range of sources over many years. Lots of nutrition studies covering the past century of research in food and nutrition, lots of evolutionary biology, lots of common sense.
>And how it's affected you?
I've had some huge improvements in how I feel after easing myself into a diet like this that's (by modern standards) pretty restrictive. My overall energy levels improved, quality of sleep improved, various aches and pains virtually disappeared (I'm in my late thirties) and so on.
The ideal macro ratio is something like 80:10:10 carbs:fats:protein so you're basically being forced into the optimal fat intake already. Your caloric intake should be mostly fruit supplemented by nutrient-dense meats - organ meats - most of which aren't very fatty. Lower the carbs if you need more protein but keeping fat at 10% or less of your caloric intake is what everyone should be doing.
>A bunch on non-answers and pseudo-science
opinion discarded
>Anecdotal "muh ancient human" nonsense, no actually proof provided aside from personal experience and saying "inflammation", which is effectively a meme buzzword in nutrition
Opinion discarded.
>>A bunch on non-answers and pseudo-science
What do you expect, you want me to give you a link to every study I've read over the past decade? I'm not here to spoon feed you. Either you're smart enough to realize the basic intuitive logic behind what I'm recommending and go do your own research or you're not. Expecting someone on a site like this to provide conclusive proof of something as broad and complex as what I'm claiming is absurd.
This
is the best explanation you're going to get and if you need more "proof" than that, go get it yourself.
We need way less protein than people think. Especially when it comes to overall health and longevity, a lower protein intake is much better. But you can feel free to lower your carb intake to make room for more protein. As far as macro ratios go, keeping fat low is the most important part.
That ratio is maddeningly protein-scarce man. What would become of my muscles if I ate like that?! Is there a protein-er approach that is pseudo viable in your estimation?
I don't have a gall bladder and so can't handle lots of fats. Would such a diet approach still work for me? Or would my macros get all weird?
>Scoop of wheat-bran and oats.
>Salt
>Homemade bone broth
>Whole milk.
Made passing stool at the end of the day much easier than when it was vegetable soup (mainly for the bone broth).
Also served with 3 eggs (whole milk, salt, mix, fried on pure butter) and kefir and you've got a perfect breakfast.
Oats are basically the only thing you can eat that actually lowers cholesterol
I always leave these threads less knowledgeable than when I went in. The debates about optimal carbs are endless and seem totally inconclusive. Still have no clue whether rice, pitatoes, yams, oatmeal, or bread is better.
>The debates about optimal carbs are endless and seem totally inconclusive.
Because most people argue from a point of emotion,
>i like to eat X carb therefore they must be the best/healthiest
rather than objectively considering which one is the best.
Of the carbs you listed, bread and oatmeal are tied for the worst, brown rice is slightly better, white rice and potatoes are much better, and yams are the best. That said, sugar-based carbs are always preferable to starch-based carbs. Sugars have always been the natural source of carbs for humans, with starches being either a starvation food (tubers) or something unnatural that was introduced very recently via agriculture (grains).
Why is it that sugar based is superior? It seems like the amount of fruits and athlete would have to eat to get enough carbs would be huge?
Oatmeal and bread taste great and are simple to prep; what makes rice and potatoes superior?
I just had:
2 cups of oats
2 lbs of greek yogurt
Frozen berries
~5 tablespoonf of peanut butter
All mixed together.
Sounds delicious, but I'd be gastro-fucked. Then again, I pack a gall bladder.
>Tfw you will never get to eat like a Saiyan again
>15 years of oats
>over time reach a point where allergies and everything just doesn't get better
>stomach issues
>energy issues
Nah. Oats are just questionable for eating constantly. Cooked meals will always be superior to oats and I am considering replacing them entirely.
I have oats every day they're pretty good
I'm an opportunist feeder and can handle most things.
What I'm not designed for as I've noticed is eating herbivore feed for an extended period.
I've ate it daily some periods and it really messes my whole body up with inflammation in guts, joints, all over.
But it's yummy and prepared right some poison once in a while is fine.
That's the cringiest way I've ever heard someone say "I have a weak digestive system and oats hurt my tummy".
>I'm an opportunist feeder
>Herbivore food
get the fuck out of here
Same. Oats and grains in general fuck you over the long term.
Cope. Even in ancient times all people who relied on bread were known to have stomach issues and their wheat was considerably better than ours.
At 15 years into eating oats I can say without any doubt: oats consumed long term do cause inflammation
>1 cup steel cut oats
>1 cup whole milk
>2 scoops whey protein
Put it in a container with a lid, shake vigorously, leave it in the fridge overnight and in the morning you've got a filling meal that's high in carbs/protein for cheap. Since I started doing this I have way more energy and I shit like clockwork. Until someone can prove to me that oats are bad for me without using nonsense anecdotal evidence I will continue to eat them.