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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love it how people act like there is something wrong or new about this. The woke shit and everyone being equal and beautiful and pretty does not reflect reality. Those same people on a fundamental practical level are the biggest racists and most judgemenal people out there. And thats normal thats life. A man in retail/customer service is already a red flag. Women sell, sex sells, pretty women sell even better.

    A 21 year old smoke show working retail at Zara sells a lot better than some fricking ugly incel or female hambeast. As pathetic as it is when that pretty girl smiles at you it makes you feel good and buy stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just you wait. I personally think you should be able not to hire someone who is fat and/or ugly, but it is currently against the law to refuse to hire someone based on their personal appearance in Washington D.C. It is also currently against the law to hire someone because of their weight or height in NYC. It's coming to wherever you live, too, soon.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        can't you just find some other bullshit excuse to bypass this? It's not like you owe a job to any tard who asks for it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is almost nothing easier than filing an EEOC charge. It's a one-page form you fill out with any sort of stupid allegation that comes into your head and ends up costing the employer a lot to defend against, largely due in part to the fact that the employer has zero opportunity to cross examine the charging party.
          The short answer to your question is yes, of course. The longer answer is that nothing stops a fat and/or ugly turd from filing the allegations they didn't get the job because they are fat and/or ugly.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DC
        No shit. Washington is Hollywood for ugly people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Went shopping for cologne earlier this year. I was looking for something very specific (a dead ringer for a discontinued fragance) and after trying out 10+ fragances the hot babe who was helping me had to come fetch this bespectacled, bald brawny guy in his early 30s who actually knew his shit. And he nailed it right away.
      Dude didn't even give off zesty vibes or anything. Just a parfumecel I guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >As pathetic as it is
      It's not. Try to bully me into being asexual I'll make your bloody corpse look pathetic when I shit on it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      joke's on you i despise women

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a fat woman could sell me things way better than a skinny stacy, they actually terrify me. middle aged fat women are best

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have been saying this for the past 10 years. Thank you anon. I was starting to believe I was crazy because everyone in my circles thought back in the day I was ranting and putting excuses. The job market is fricked even in the most basic of levels. I never felt the need to buy from a store and not another because the cashier is a girl or is pretty. Whoever does that is fricked in the head. And whoever hires her thinking that is a good strategy has to reflect on the way he understands the world.

      >inb4 women are more social and responsible than their young men equals, which makes them a better candidate for this responsibility
      I have seen really stupid women make mistakes and act with a lot of autism lately, to the point I have seen them lose money for the store very frequently. Even an inexperienced neet with social phobia would take good care of not causing income loses.
      Last experience I recall was in a phone store, there was 4 girls and some nerd guy. The women did not know shit and had to rely on the guy for the most basic things. He was manning the store alone and had to carry 4 children that played instead of working. I get that greedy corporations try even subtle things that may give them 0.1% chances of more gains, but their trust in women didn't work the way they thought.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I looked sorta like him and while still too fat facial gains are real once people can actually see your bones and muscle.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      show me them bones, boy

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah women don't want to buy their coffee from someone that's not attractive

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are plenty of ugly guys working st coffee shops but they are either weird hipsters or some sort of zoomer gay creature so those are cool and hip ugly guys. But they don't want just a normal ugly white guy who looks like he will spike a hot girl's drink

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s with these college educated people applying for low level service industry jobs? I get that finding career relevant work at an entry level that is well paying is hard. I’ve had my share of struggles in my early 20s.

    But people like this should be applying for entry level retail management roles. Zero sex appeal, I get it. There’s nothing successful in that title, but it pays a livable wage and most companies offer a performance stipend. FedEx, UPS, Sherwin Williams, Hertz, WalMart, Ace Hardware, etc. etc. all offer management trainee roles.

    I get that job hunting is a shit time, and settling on a crap job is having to make do, but these gays need to make the most out of a shit time. Being a manager for two years looks a lot better than being a barista

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At every minimum wage job like this, the management all know each other and are brought in from nepotism
      The only way to be a manager is to have a family member who is one, or work 5-10 years as a wagie until they bring you up there
      t. first job in college was at kfc

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's not talking about shift manager or whatever at KFC. He's talking about the guy who sits in the back office at target and reads emails. Or the branch manager at a bank.

        Those jobs have training programs anyone with a college degree can get into with zero experience. They are horrible because you will be the only college educated person there, and the only person who isn't moronic or pretending to be moronic to get out of work.

        But they pay 30-60k a year plus bonus with decent benefits.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are companies that are so large that turnover depletes the ranks of Hourly and salaried employees. Your nepotism explanation would have been relevant 10 or 20 years ago, but now these companies have dedicated an outside applicant listing for their entry level management roles. I’m literally so autistic I could lookup and share 5 listings that I’m talking about. Anybody could apply and get the job.

        These people need to get quality experience ASAP. Despite their circumstances, like settling for a crap job, they need to get the best experience. Flipping burgers, making coffee, and tearing movie tickets isn’t it. Handling P&Ls, training, HR, and lead gen is a million times better.

        I’m going on a rant here because I had this exact convo with my nephew. Smart guy and college educated but he’s failing to launch a career. He’s willing to dig ditches or flip burgers, but I’m prodding him to do better

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Your nepotism explanation would have been relevant 10 or 20 years ago
          You may have a point, last I worked there was 2011

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I get that finding career relevant work at an entry level that is well paying is hard.
      It's not, but the problem is that colleges will let anyone with a pulse attend and graduate from them, because that's how they get more money and how they can infect more young minds with the woke mind virus.
      As a result, we have a surplus of college-"educated" people with zero qualities favorable for employment. Like the ugly sack of shit in OP's picture (keeping in mind that OP is also an ugly sack of shit and most likely the ugly sack of the shit in the picture, as he is cross-posting from reddit). They'll work in entry level retail when they can and they'll blame anyone but themselves for their poor decisions. Like

      At every minimum wage job like this, the management all know each other and are brought in from nepotism
      The only way to be a manager is to have a family member who is one, or work 5-10 years as a wagie until they bring you up there
      t. first job in college was at kfc

      who wants to blame muh nepotism for being unemployable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >implying
        I have a “real” job now but you reek of someone who’s never worked in this places

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how they can infect more young minds with the woke mind virus.
        You totally blew any credibility you had right here.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >t. went to college to "learn how to think critically"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can't blame everyone for not finding a well paying job if there simply aren't enough well paying jobs to go around. Lots of people going to college does not automatically guarantee that companies will somehow need lots more educated workers. That is all that has happened.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't blame everyone for not finding a well paying job if there simply aren't enough well paying jobs to go around. Lots of people going to college does not automatically guarantee that companies will somehow need lots more educated workers. That is all that has happened.
          And yet, all these people went through the motions and went to college because they assumed that employers would have a need for them when they graduated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >because they assumed
            That's a common phrasing that I can't get behind at all. These people were completely unprepared for the world by their shitty parents, who probably even pressured them to go to college. As a dumb teen you don't know any better, and so you end up with a worthless degree.
            Happened to me and most people I know. The only guys who put any thought into what they were going to do only did so because they had already spent multiple years after school working, because they had reasonable parents that told them to do so.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              At some point you have to stop blaming everyone else for your life circumstances. All these kids want to act like adults at 16 years old then when they make a bad decision it's "waaah my parents didn't set me up to succeed!" You can't have it both ways.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >These people were completely unprepared for the world by their shitty parents, who probably even pressured them to go to college. As a dumb teen you don't know any better
              Literally me. I jumped off the wagon before it was too late but everyone thinks I made a bad call. I always tell them to name me one of our graduated friends that is doing better than me. Silence is honesty.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cringe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand how I could be a manager straight out of school though? How can I manage staff and shit at a place I've never been to?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody knows what they're doing at first. Employers mostly look for problem solvers who can learn fast and be assertive. The training happens on the job

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We have a much higher population, and a much higher proportion of that population attending college, than we did 50 years ago.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is the answer. And remember, every six months a new load of applicants begin handing out resumes and competing for jobs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      White men are being heavily discriminated against in the White collar job market. Skills, experience, and being personable do not matter anymore if you're White. Hiring managers actively refuse to hire White men

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This reminds me of when a close friend of mine, tired of not receiving a call back from all his interviews, started to resort to apply for literally anything. Even tried to get into construction jobs, which belongs mostly to immigrants in my country. They refused and literally told him he was too white for it.

        I like how society often claims that being a white man is to start life in easy mode.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean. Do you really want an ugly guy like that doing your frosted matcha latte?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well it seems all too frequently nowadays, your iced red eye is prepared by an ugly man who goes by they/them, so why can't a normal ugly guy do the same?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    natty lifting does nothing

    hes just realizing now that hes ugly? he should have figured that out when he was a teen and no girl ever gave him any attention

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The funniest part about this is OP's reddit handle is FightForUnions. Unions won't make you not look like an uggo OP

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big improvement. I've seen it all, was very attractive in my younger years, then got super fat and bad acne/grew out my hair thinking it looked good, then eventually sorted myself out with gym, got good looking again. I was a fat uggo between the ages of 19 and 25

    My body count is 48 (I'm 29 yo) and literally every one of those girls was outside of my uggo window 19-25. I graduated university in CS at 22, just couldn't get hired anywhere though and didn't manage to get a job till I was 26 and good looking again. Fricking was stuck at mcdonalds before. People treated me like shit too, I was constantly getting in fights on nights out when I was ugly because of shit people said or did to me

    I've been ugly and good looking (I cite my body count as proof I'm good looking, if I was average or ugly it would never be that high) and been good looking is a MUCH better life
    >Treated better
    >Can get girls
    >Better chances at getting hired
    >Get paid more
    >Never get ripped off/overcharged at bars or shops or taxis
    >Even cops are nicer to you, I got locked in the drunk tank all night over a petty scrap once when I was ugly. I guarantee they wouldn't do anything about it now
    >Even in hospitals, wait times are never long now. They would never see anything bad happen to chad but don't care about uggos
    People are very shallow. Looks are everything, so looksmax all you can breh
    I know for a fact pretty privelage is real

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like that in every office and it makes sense, they don't want some uggo in the office. Reflects badly on the company when there's visitors or auditors
      I worked in office environments for 15 years, and everyone is either good looking, or was good looking when they were younger, when they got hired, but then grew old and fat while already in the role and now they can't be fired or easily replaced
      Ugly people simply aren't employable

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's like that in every office and it makes sense, they don't want some uggo in the office. Reflects badly on the company when there's visitors or auditors
        I've worked at offices were programmers are unironically hidden in a different wing so they don't scare the visitors.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's called the Halo Effect. Someone more attractive is going to appear smarter and better at a job than someone ugly. If anything it should be motivation for people that are good at their job and ugly to get fit so they get more opportunities at work and in life but many just think they are overworked or make enough money and don't improve just to stagnate at work and wonder why they feel their career is in a rut. Meanwhile I just got a promotion at work and make over the median income married couples make in my area at 29 years old. I still wouldn't say I've made it but at least I'm not struggling like I was for years.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not that i dont believe you, but its pretty pathetic to keep counts past, i dont know, 2 handful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know this, tired of all the gaslight I get from friends and family, the truth makes normal people uncomfortable because they are just “average” themselves.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Grown ass man applying to a fricking coffee shop is pathetic. Hit the oil rig homosexual ass homie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >go to one of the worst places on earth and toil
      Nah I'm good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie you need connections for that

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The women who do hiring at my work toss out the resumes if they find guys ugly and short, There is nothing wrong with hating ugly people

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They also throw out the resume of any woman prettier than them.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >denied a job because ugly
    as intended

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Quality of life peaks at bf% in the low teens. Bellow this and your muscles start to waste away as hormone production shuts down

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >in the low teens
      Kek ask how I know you've done nothing with your life since high school. 20s is the real peak

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In what fricking world is 20-30% bodyfat the peak? The powerlifter fantasy world?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This gigabrainlet thinks you talking about low teens as in age

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Learn to read moron redditor

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone did what those kids call these days a "glow up".
    you look better, life is better.
    -
    lost over 40 lbs.
    updated all my clothing.
    got a proper haircut.
    fixed my posture.
    and fixed my resting face demeanor.
    I went from a 4/10 to 6/10
    -
    everyone treats you better.
    much easier to get promotions.
    you'll actually have people Walk up to talk to you.
    actually had women call me hot.
    instead of getting cringe looks from women they'll smile instead.
    I do have the advantage of being 6'5 though.
    looks maxing is very real but don't get too caught up in it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >6/10
      >women call me hot
      Which is it?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not ugly, just average and unkempt. Most people can look nice if they put in some effort. Gym - cardio - good food and 2lt of water per day would make him 6/10 in 12 months

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >He's not ugly, just average and unkempt
      Do you think he wore that polo shirt to the job interview? Polo shirts are so goofy. I don't understand the point of collared shirts etc for le interview when it's all ill fitting on ill bodies at least ill people in the past somehow looked swag in their clothes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The top button done up (virgin) matched with beige khakis and old man shoes I bet. The, haven't had time to shave today look, only works when you're not fat.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Polo shirts are polarising, pardon the pun

        If you're out of shape they make you look even more out of shape, but if you're fit they make you look fitter. They make jacked arms look more jacked and noodle arms look more noodle. Whatever your body type, they accentuate it somehow.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can confirm that low body fat will literally change your life. I’m not like hot but when I cut down to sub 12 bf I look pretty good
    All 3 times I cut down to sub 12% bodyfat in my life it’s like some dream life. Girls will literally just come up to you at bars and start hitting on you, girls at work and school will be crushing on you , your friends will set you up with chicks and random girls will match with you and tell you to come over in like 4 messages. I got hired on the spot at all 3 college bars i applied to when I was in college to bartend and or bounce. Also helps if you’re 6’2 with elvis Presley hair
    Meanwhile when I’m 15% or higher bf it’s like you’re just some regular guy
    >inb4 larp
    Even if I completely made this up, everything I said is a confirmed fact if you know any fit good looking guys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also helps if you’re 6’2 with elvis Presley hair
      the real message was buried in the comment

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        6’2 with good hair is still incel territory if you have a fat face and are the personality type who spends his free time posting on IST (me)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get this whole thing of the 12% bf because most of your visual improvements are under your clothes. Which means unless you live near the beach people wont get to notice.

      Yes face gains exist but they come way before 12% and although I have gotten compliments it never was that much game changing. Perhaps you're handsome or low body fat does really help you particularly compared to most.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He is fat as frick
    I wouldnt hire a fat person either
    Fat persons have ZERO discipline, self respect or ambition in life. Not really a person you want for ur company

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who currently works in a job like this, the hiring manager usually is just looking for someone they can frick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nailed it. Why would I hire dork #367 when I can hire some tight puss and try to work on getting laid.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am an ugly man with a low self opinion and I don't want ugly men at the front either. Feels good to be a Heterosexual! I think you have to be gay or super babied by a feminist mom or some shit to think you should be a waiter or barista

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think he chose it over being a general surgeon, anon

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't hire this ugly creep either, you'd lose other cute employees with this gremlin in their presence

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gave up looking for work suitable to my educational level
    >It's was
    >my educational level

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not posting the full image
    It was over before he even interviewed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stubble on his entire fricking head
      Wrinkly piss colored shirt
      Overweight
      I wouldn’t fricking hire him because it tells me there’s no attention to detail in the way he put himself together.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If he doesn't care about his appearance he's going to be a bad worker

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Attention to detail and personal accountability

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Unironically yes. If you can't be fricked to take care of your own appearance I don't trust you to take care of your job duties. And yes this still applies even though 95% of IST apparently makes six figures working 10 minutes a day from home.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this guy probably went to the interview looking like this. the issue with guys like this is that their ugliness is entirely self inflicted and in control but they choose to look like shit out of laziness

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh frick off, totally normal bloke. Would buy him a proteinshake

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >emotionless white male shooter gaze
        >camo jacket in the background

        This guy looks like he would shoot up the starbucks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is ugly to people because his nose is bent, he is deformed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      natty lifting does nothing

      feminine autism face

      hes more female than male

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he's got a good skull shape and his face is average, just the lower third is droopy from being overweight. if he lost the weight he'd look fine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He looks like a gremlin who swallowed a fart.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You KNOW this guy would complain about every tiny thing.
      Be difficult to work with. Be hated by customers.
      These charity cases are in everyone's life and we all have to pretend it's immoral wanting to be away from them.

      He's probably lying about what the actual feedback was. I'm CERTAIN the owner actually said he was sloppy or didn't look presentable and he's translated it to pretend he's a victim.

      Society should force these gremlins to work in mines. Why are they allowed to even access the internet.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or maybe you're falling victim to the halo effect

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I fricking know this archetype of homosexual inside and out. Overly smug homosexual whom everyone despises within seconds of meeting them. Absolute douche canoe with Family Guy tier political opinions that he WILL shove down your throat. King of degenerates, greatest ally of women. Thinks he basic b***h takes make him superior to others. Possibly into some gay vidya like TF2, CS, etc. Possibly screams at vidya as well. A fricking manchild and a half life will slap the shit out of. Frick him and everyone like him
      >t. Saw too much of myself in him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's just a israelite. They all uggos

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You think that's bad? I'm denied work AND sex because I'm ugly. They take one look at me and say,
    >No pussy, no work.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I look significantly better than I did when youger but I the norwood reaper got me so it kinda offset things back to zero. People do treat me a lot better, however.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That guy has a federal lawsuit on his hands. Why he didn't immediately contact an attorney is likely the reason the coffee shop owner would say he didn't hire the guy: he's an idiot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being ugly is not a protected characteristic m8.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not in so many words but good luck defending it.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How would a union benefit you if you aren't employed?

    Why would you be surprised that a customer facing role prioritises appearance?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Very fat. should use this as fuel to look better. Lose the weight and get some contacts for one. He has good genetics but he wastes it

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's what the average white guy looks like, ugly. only 5% of white guys are sexually attractive to women.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      good morning sirs

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really want to detail my appearance but I basically look like Vegeta. Will people hire me for shit like retail or am I too scary?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just don't apply for a store that sells hairloss products.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post hairline

        Kek no, my hairline and hair are fine, but basically I have a defined brow ridge and eyebrows that point diagonally downward like I'm kind of pissed off all the time. I fear that my appearance might scare people

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Apply at stores where they downlow want some scary looking dudes on the floor to protect the women from Black folk and junkies.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post hairline

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who cares if they'll hire you or not. You're the prince of all saiyans

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're gonna be a low level service wagey - look for call centres that have work from home options.
    *You don't need to be a pretty girl to work in a call centre.
    *You don't need to leave your neet cave, you just won't be neet anymore.
    *You will never have an upset customer that can physically do anything to you.
    *You will never have to clean up a mess someone made, unless that someone was you.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Past a certain age a man with no job experience can be a very bad thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is that age?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        16

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >minimum wage
    If you want model tier looks you better pay me model tier wage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, I'll just hire someone who isn't fat. Thanks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick? Women really will do anything for views won't they? This has to be a new low. Is this a professional prostitute or a nobody?

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not an expert on this since I've always been very skinny and only got as high as 15% bf drinking 1800kcal shakes daily.
    Benefits are, sunken cheeks, defined jawline, visible forearm, bicep and ab veins even unflexed and no pump. Downsides are cold feet and being constantly hungry even when eating alot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Benefits are, sunken cheeks, defined jawline, visible forearm, bicep and ab veins even unflexed and no pump
      I already got all this in ~18% and I don't have the motivation to go under if there is no more benefits. Are there other things to look forward?

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    10% to 15% is the healthiest, sub 10% if u roid

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