How much difference has lifting made on your attractiveness to women?

Do women see you as significantly more attractive or not much difference at all?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    who man? Nah I just lift.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just need to finish my cut and then I'll be a Chad. I've never been able to get the last 15 lbs off so I've never actually been attractive

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fasting bro

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't want to. I'm a little scared that my jaw won't be defined enough at 12% tbh, I really need that to get as good looking as I want. I already have decent hunter eyes but my face is so fucking round, I hate it. I've been doing OMAD and lost about 10 lbs in the last 2 months, but I've only lost like 3 in the past month. I want to get to 12% by the end of January because I want to be leanmaxxed for ny next college semester.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >omad
          >10lbs in 2 months
          weak.
          .5lbs a day is possible.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >.5lbs a day is possible
            If you are a fat 300lb cunt then you can lose a lb per day
            When you are trying to get that stubborn last 10 lbs off it can take months

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              possibly. I was eating a can of sardines a day, bicycle riding, and feeling like shit. Ended up omega dyel as an experiment. I just know 12lbs in 2 months isn't really fast.

              https://i.imgur.com/GZvzdBp.jpg

              I don't want to go beyond 2 lbs a week
              [...]
              Here's what my jaw looks like now. Very rounded but I think it has potential.

              Fair enough.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't want to go beyond 2 lbs a week

            You cant change your chin, or any of your skeletal shape. You WILL look better at 12% bodyfat than you do now. Regardless of your chin/jaw

            Here's what my jaw looks like now. Very rounded but I think it has potential.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Youre not getting to 12% bodyfat by the end of january
              Sorry to burst your bubble but you are much fatter than you think

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not a very flattering photo, here's one where I look a lot leaner. It's all about posing and lighting.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I look about that lean at 25%

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Genetic fat distribution maybe? Lmao

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think so. I also need to have extremely low bf to have a flat stomach

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah lol, it kinda sucks maintaining a fat face even as I lose weight. I was like 25%, maybe a little more, two months ago, and my face looks the exact same as it did then

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          You cant change your chin, or any of your skeletal shape. You WILL look better at 12% bodyfat than you do now. Regardless of your chin/jaw

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no fasting
          Mew, chew gum and keep doing omad then I guess. Avoid processed sugary garbageslop as best as you can.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >mew
            I doubt this will make much of a difference, I'm not a mouthbreather or anything.
            >chew gum
            Not a bad idea but I don't feel like buying any right now, I need to chew my food more thoroughly in general.
            >avoid goyslop
            I cook most of my food, my diet is basically bread, meat, and cheese lol.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What looksmaxxing does to a mofo.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both absolutely no difference but also all the difference in the world. Let me explain
    I get tons more pussy now than I did when I was skinnyfat but its not
    >women see Im physically more attractive
    >They fuck me
    Its actually more like
    >I know im physically more attractive
    >all my insecurities about my weight and thinking I was too ugly for women went away
    >I had more confidence when interacting with women
    >women saw me as more attractive because of my confidence

    If you can delude yourself into genuinely believing you are hot shit you will get women pretty much regardless of what you look like. This is what people mean when they say "fake it till you make it". Unfortunately I (and most people) are not so sociopathic that we can trick ourselves into this level of confidence, so it has to come from genuine improvement and ridding yourself of the things getting in your way

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      based take. most of us cant fake confidence, its just a byproduct of who/what we are.

      https://i.imgur.com/75TMnyR.jpg

      Do women see you as significantly more attractive or not much difference at all?

      sexy bitch, i wanna lick her sweaty armpits

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      My insecurities aren’t about my looks, not really. I sometimes obsess about them but deep down I know I look decent. It’s just whenever women don’t seem interested in me I wonder why and think it must be my creepy/awkward behaviour or whatever. Basically I take everything personally. I had a gf and some success on tinder so I know I can get girls if I appply myself. Any advice on confidence and not letting rejection bring you down?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >look decent
        Decent doesn't cut it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I mean I had plenty of matches on tinder, I don’t think looks are my problem unironically
          I just want to be more konfident bro (not in my looks)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Becoming sociopathic enough to where you delude yourself into believing you're hot shit actually seems like the easier route tbh; any tips for sociopath-maxxing?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    life starts at 12% bf

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve only slept with 3 girls in my life so not a big pool but the first two were fine but the third was after I toned up and had a good body, there was a massive difference in sex, not only was sex better for me because I was healthier and blah blah, but she was all about grabbing my back my ass and feeling my abs and chest. She even licked my abs and chest and just loved touching me and looking at me. Again only three and I’ve only slept with one girl since getting in shape so yeah take of that what you will but the difference was drastic for me

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if they paid me more attention, i'm still too autistic and uninteresting to approach. So in the end, it doesn't really matter too much

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Crazy, this random no-name volleyball player is better looking than every single current big name actress and model. Is this the girl-next-door effect?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's too swarthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Watch a movie from the 90's. It's almost painful how more good looking people were just via not being disgusting and fat compared to the bogpilled stuff going on now. And less white than ever now.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Girls want to be "thicc"(fat) now

        https://i.imgur.com/HBSUcqA.gif

        cumherebro

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no not all I'm still an incel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How lean are you?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've literally never measured, but if I had to take a stab at it I'd say low-mid teens. flat stomach, but no abs either.
        why? how lean are you?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think I have a good face but I'm not lean enough to get girls with it. I'm

          https://i.imgur.com/mhtdg9b.jpg

          That's not a very flattering photo, here's one where I look a lot leaner. It's all about posing and lighting.

          https://i.imgur.com/GZvzdBp.jpg

          I don't want to go beyond 2 lbs a week
          [...]
          Here's what my jaw looks like now. Very rounded but I think it has potential.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I have a really really shitty jaw so it was over for me before it started anyways, good luck though family

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah I have a really really shitty jaw
              How shitty? I'm lucky to have a decent jaw, you can see it doesn't show because of my bodyfat but it should when I get leaner.
              >good luck
              Thank you. I've never been able to lose that last ~15-20 lbs of fat to really get lean, but I think I can do it this time

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                idk man it's just very weak and it makes me ugly as shit
                yeah I've heard the last 15lbs are the hardest

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah I've heard the last 15lbs are the hardest
                They really are. It sucks because that's what makes the big difference in attractiveness
                >just very weak
                Is your chin recessed? Is the jaw itself really thin?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    After lifting, I've unironically attracted more men, despite being straight myself. It's a unique kind of suffering.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're more attractive to everyone, but men are used to being aggressive about it and making moves. Lift and make it clear to women that you're attracted to them.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Brooke is so cutie

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    sorry for blackpill but IST gets you more female attention than IST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      IST + IST is where it's at. You don't have to maxx either one, just be above average fitness with above average fashion and you'll have women lusting after you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does it have to be the atrocious style of IST to work?

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It certainly helps. I do best with women when I'm in shape

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    last night I seen this girl who was an aquaintance and she was very eager to chat. She was with her BF but aske me to go with them to the next bar and asked me to put my phone number in hers right in front of the guy. Someone she knew came up and ask if I'm her husband when her bf standing there still. Tat stuff happens now I'm IST but never would happen when I'm DYEL. Sad part I'm still autistic so I still went home alone again.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Shoulders
    >Leanness

    Are the only things you can influence that matter to women

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >before lifting
    >virgin
    >after lifting
    >10+ partners

    It worked out.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They like me more but I'm a sperg so when I open my mouth it ends there or goes from "sexual" to "friendzone" real quick

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes they do, they give me more eye contact, look at me longer, I command more attention from everyone both men and women, stand closer to me etc etc

    If you are muscular, decently groomed and dressed you get a good anti-creep aura by default.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the thing anon, women don't think like men. They don't lust after abs and pecs like we lust after nice asses and legs. To women you're either visible or invisible. 80% of men are effectively invisable in the eyes of women until they make themselves stand out by being exceptionably attractive either physically or through your personality, money, or power.

    Working out might make you "visible" but you're not going to get women aggressively checking you out or approaching you...if anything they'll just be more open to being approached by you. Remember, women are passive creatures who are used to being the object of desire. Even if you're ripped and sexy, the expectation is still that you'll approach them, the difference is that now they'll actually be receptive to your advances (picrel).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It took me 10+ years to realize that my personality wasn't a problem, it's just I was very skinny and I couldn't command respect or make anyone wet with my physical presence. I'm not so skinny anymore, but not jacked enough to make a big difference yet.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ya but it doesn’t matter because I’m too awkward to make anything of it anyway

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No I'm repulsive and ottermode at 6'5, hehehehehe height matters my ass you limpdick fucks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Face matters though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Haven't been able to look at a mirror in a long time tbh so who the fuck knows

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kek

          I mean I had plenty of matches on tinder, I don’t think looks are my problem unironically
          I just want to be more konfident bro (not in my looks)

          Just be confident bro, you have the looks already

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Do women see you

    Yes. Now they do.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Girls that only see me every couple years mention it

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It has made a massive difference on my attractiveness, but that doesn't really matter when I don't talk to women.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it made me less attractive, went from getting approached 1-2 times a month as a dyel to women never even looking at me besides quick glances. I'm still around 15% bodyfat so my face hasn't changed

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a world class athlete, I get attention where ever I go because my legs and back are huge, and I move well.

    I am extremely autistic and am afraid of close relations, so I always come across as retarded or too distant.

    Being in shape and good looking will not improve your skills with women/other people. Its just a highly desired prerequisite for relations.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wamen are shallow empty creatures that look for confidence, money, climbing the social latter, money, and money. I have seen many horrendous looking guys with smoking hot young women. The guy was a musician, actor, rich, or combo of all.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate to break it to you but if you lift for female attention you aren’t gonna make it

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Huge difference, I'm still pretty early into fitness but I think I went from being like a 2/10 to maybe a 6/10 but women treat me like a human being now. I actually turn them down out of the anger of knowing that it was literally as simple as getting fit for women to not be cruel to me for absolutely no reason. I have never ever been mean to someone because of their appearance. Its honestly made me hate women even more and I really dont want to date or have sex with a woman ever again. Women are flirting with me and hitting on me openly now and I get disgusted and turn them down because I know howd they treat my short or fat bros differently.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      cumherebro

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No clue, haven't talked to one before or after getting (somewhat) jacked

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros i’m debating on going over to hook up with a super mid chick who i’m not going to date, but i feel bad about it since i’ve only dated chicks before. what do

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tell her you just want casual sex and nothing more and if she says she’s cool with that then no harm, no foul

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always had a nice face but as you get older you realize being a doughboy won't get you far. No one respects an out of shape man because men don't have excuses. As for women it helped tremendously, probably the confidence boost helped significantly. Women smile at me every where I go and opening a conversation with them is easier than it's ever been.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not just lifting, but running and OMAD together has made me a lean machine, and now women do find me very attractive and I have so many options I don't even know how to deal with them all. Online dating is working, I had to slow down on matching with women on Hinge because I had too many to talk to and it was impossible.
    You can make it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Being lean with a bit of muscle (doesn't take much tbh) basically makes you a celebrity.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually kind of creepy how much attention I get since cutting down to really low BF%.
    The desperation of women who want my attention really bad is quite hilarious.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    6'1 172lb atm, haven't gotten any mires really since dropping 60, doubt women will start throwing themselves at me when I drop 20 more and get lean & fuck I want to eat chocolate REEEE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 6'1 and about 170, 12% body fat
      Women are into me big time now
      just get lean

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I was a 70kg lanklet and 193cm tall. After 6 months of lifting girls started drooling all over me. And I gained only 8kg. So yes.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need to cut before I know, but I don't go outside much.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think im worse off than before i started, before i was some weird looking tall ish kid who didn't really talk to anyone and was basically a walking skeleton, now the only thing that's changes is I'm more than double my starting weight and people know that I have hit women before so the chance of another one approaching me is almost zero.

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women "fake shop" next to me in Publix hoping I'll hit on them and I STILL can't close the deal because IST has made me an autistic freak of nature.

    I'm sure I'll make human connection bros, haha...one day soon I bet..

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