Only people that have been in serious street fights or professional fighting tournaments can reply.
In your experience, how much does weight matter in a all things allowed 1v1 fight?
For myself, coming from a judo background strenght relative to weight is a crucial metric that determines who will win. You can be faster, have better technique, smarter but if your opponent is way stronger you cant do shit. The other stuff matters, of course, but without strenght its useless.
ive been hearing a lot of people nowadays say that size doesnt matter THAT much and i dont have any fistfighting experience to know how true/false that is.
If i had to guess, as long a the smaller guy can keep distance he has a chance but as soon as you get to a clutch its over no matter how skilled the smaller guy is.
Theres other stuff to keep in mind like reflexes, reach, slow twitch/fast twitch muscles, skeletal structure, etc.
i have an extraordinary hard time imagining a scenario where a 170cm, 65kg (154lbs) woman that is a master and i mean god tier in martial arts get anywhere close to beating your local 190cm, 110kg(220lbs) bar thung. What is she gonna do? Is she going to double flying flamingo monkey eagle kick him? I doubt theres enough force behind it to do any damage. The guy just needs 1 punch or kick anywhere on the body and she is either rolling on the floor from pain or out cold. He could grab her and lay on her and that would do it.
Ive seen examples where both guys are skilled and the smaller guy wins but this is mostly in controlled enviroments like boxing or kickboxing. There is also deminishing returns of size difference the higher you go, because at a certain point you punches are strong enough to knock anyone out. for example, 60kg fighter vs 100kg figter VS 100kg fighter vs 140kg fighter. The 60kg guy is going to deal much less damage to the 100kg than the 100kg to 140kg.
Id like to hear some more opinions on this, stories are welcomed.
A lot. I’ve gotten into fights at 160, 185, and 203. At 203 6’1 I was hitting significantly harder and could brute force my way through most people. Keep in mind this is all via bar fights and I am not a trained fighter. Biggest guy I fought was 240 when I was 180, was hard. Smallest guy I fought was like 130 when I was 175 and I just mauled him. The only time size doesn’t matter is when someone is going against an untrained individual while being trained themselves. If the skill is equal bigger guy wins 90% of the time
>If the skill is equal bigger guy wins 90% of the time
What if one is a master(smaller) and the other guy(bigger) is just "decent"? I would think weight still matters a lot here because even though the bigger guy is just decent, he understand moves enough to understand what is going on in a fight and can reasonably counter.
I’d still say the bigger guy wins if the difference is big. Technique matters but you can’t really practice technique when you’re being mauled and grappled by someone twice your size. That being said I have a friend who was a pro fighter who was 5’5 170 pounds and he legitimately took on 13 groids at the same time and won. But he was an absolute god of a wrestler who would have you in a pretzel before you even hit the floor. He legitimately just picked dudes up and would slam them on their heads
what a unit
He’s 240 now cause he’s on house arrest and got fat. Dude went dwarf mode. Still would not fuck with him, guy is legitimately an animal
Dang. Hope he can cut down some and get fit again. Even if he is just fridgemode.
Only dudes I have met with similar size and height were an indian dude, and some mexicans, oh and a big asian dude. They were on the football team.
>angry twink beats trained BJJ dude
sad if true, or you have a ton of agression and good job.
First session of grappling I did, was able to just muscle my way around everyone except the instructor who was a black belt. Most of the guys were 1-5 years experience. But I'm 6' 230lb
>In your experience, how much does weight matter in a all things allowed 1v1 fight?
Weight matters a LOT - here's McGregor vs. The Mountain in a sparring match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aaehn1aY8Ig
McGregor was a champion MMA fighter at the time and The Mountain was untrained yet the outcome is clear from the start.
this looks ridiculous kek
its also an extreme example but yea the point stands.
grappling: a lot
striking: matters less if the size is within reason (a couple weight classes), if it's muay thai smaller guy has to avoid clinch.
There is no scenario where the 154 pound woman beats a 220 pound man though, maybe in a jiu jitsu roll if the man was very humble and just happy to learn because he could just gorilla mode pick up and slam the girl but obviously that wouldn't be appropriate.
there is for sure technique in grappling i remember when i would spar against beginners judo that were way heavier than me and they didnt understand how to use their weight to apply pressure and how conservation of momentum "works" and balance was a big issues for them. But When i went against someone that was somewhat competent and way heavier I couldnt do that much.
How can I learn to gauge other peoples size? I am fit and lean but as a result I am pretty light (176lbs @6'0) and generally have this idea that everyone is bigger than me although most people obviously don't even lift.
unironically look at their thighs and neck. Muscular thighs and thick neck means they arent to fuck with. Also look if they have swollen ears.
Forearms as well
Especially if they are not fat but still have a big neck/thighs/forearms.
judge a man's strength the same way a woman does, because women are evolved to find the strongest men to put in their pussies
>forearms and hands
>thighs and ass
Fit is so desperate to believe this, but it will never be true. As far as physical features, height and face are the most important being fit is just a small bonus, but with a good enough personality/charismamaxing, or enough money/social status, most women will find you attractive.
all the facial features women find attractive are derived from High T lmao
> square jaw
> strong brow ridge
> deep set eyes
> thicker neck
i forgot height as well
>> thicker neck
this just proves that you know shit. women have been shown to prefer literally twink necks rather than large ones. yes, even if buff guys
Some asshole tried to fight me once because I excused myself past him through a doorway he was blocking at a bar. He was a BJJ dude and thought he was a bigshot because he had been on PPV in UFC a few times. He kept saying he trained BJJ and was a professional fighter and would fuck me up. Then he pushed me and when I went back to hit him he tried to hug me or something. So I pushed him away and he fell to the floor and put his legs up like a flipped over turtle yelling at me to “fucking take him on” and calling me a bitch and a pussy. I just stepped on him and kicked him over and over until he stopped moving.
Got to sign a NDA for some money in exchange for not pressing assault charges which is cool tho
I’m 5’8 130 pounds and he was taller and a few weight classes above me too
kek nice, do you have any training?
No I just got a bunch of adrenaline and defended myself because this dude was freaking out on me
Never got into a fight before that
>excuse me brah
size matters about 2-3x as much in a fight than it does in the sheets.
i said this in a different thread but size is everything unless the other guy is PRO level in martial arts. keep in mind i said PRO, not some amateur BJJ nerd, those types try messing with big 240 lbs 6'5 bouncers all the time and get flattened and it red pilled me on how important size is
A 6'0 dudebro who goes to the gym with "da boys" on the weekends who got in a bar fight a couple of times will easily destroy a 5'7 MMA champion manlet.
kek looks like the smaller dude was mobile gaming
Here is a 130 lbs 5'4 mma manlet destroying a 6'6 fat boy. Muh bigger size is a cope for weak pussies who can't fight
Man moves like a bloodspider.
>manlet is a champ in his weight category and knows wrestling to the core
>goes all out
>powerlifter has the very basic understanding of wrestling
>uses 20% of his force to playfight, trying not to kill the manlet
The bigger guy will win 90% of the time.
and this is in a controlled enviroment with heavy rules.
In a professional setting, very. In a non-professional setting, it can vary depending on your skill level. In my own sparring, I've gone up against guys who are 6ft and taller as 5'9 150-160lb manlet but I was only able to bully some of them because I was more skilled, but as soon as they start approaching my skill level, and beyond, it becomes increasingly more difficult to deal with which why I started adopting peekaboo elements based on Floyd Patterson which mesh better with my style of muay thai than Tyson's
Your mma, size whatever matters jak shit when i trow a chair at you and start swinging my arm like a boxer
In a real fight, you want to be low bodyfat.
>Lower bodyfat, higher bodyweight
Smash the other guy on the floor if you have the bare minimum training
>Lower bodyfat, lower bodyweight
Outrun the other guy easily
Ability to fight is a combination of skill, physical attributes, and applied knowledge/intelligence. Deficits in one area can be covered by strengths in another, to a degree. Simple as.
>how much does weight count for in a fight?
A lot. If you get jumped there’s a good chance his friend will hop in too. That’s why you should always carry a weapon to level the playing field.
>inb4 muh cuck state/country no allow weapons 🙁
You can be dead and law abiding or alive and violating an unjust law