How much gear to lift advanced?

So I have an autistic obsession with reaching advanced lifting weight. Most of my lifts are intermediate, with my bench being advanced and my shoulders only being novice.

Currently on a gram of testosterone, and 50mg of winstrol (every other month).

Steadily making strength gains but hit a plateau in my overhead press. Fucking stuck on novice, for a gear user that is pretty pathetic.

However I also have a very lean/strict diet to maintain a more 'aesthetic' physique for the summer.

I've decided to take a week off from the gym, and I'm going to add an additional 400 calories to my 2,500 calorie diet (obviously now making it 2,900 calories).

I guess my question is: do you think I'll be able to hit advanced numbers for everything if I carefully monitor my diet and training stats? Will slight increments with food plus the gram of testosterone help me achieve my goal?

Or do I need to bite the bullet and do something more radical like tren to hit these numbers?

At a loss bros.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A gram of test is a lot for just strength. Try adding nandrolone (Deca). It's generally the next one added for beginner cycles. Don't skip straight to tren. It's advanced stuff.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too worried about deca dick to every try it. I've had bouts of erectile dysfunction in the past due to merely having estrogen slightly out of range.

      I enjoy having a thriving sex life and don't want to risk getting ED again.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP you might be the mosy pathetic gay on this entire board. Roiding at 24 for pitiful strength goals but not willing to gain an ounce of fat in the process. Rather just pump up your cocktail right retard? Fuck you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Aiming for advanced strength is pitiful?

      Yes I am very strict with my diet and up until this point I've been making continual strength gains following a Mike Mentzer routine all while being lean with abs and veins in the process.

      I fuck cheerleaders straight out of high school and my body count is double digits. If a gay fucks a lot of women - then a gay I am.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        your lifestyle is exactly the kind that ends in a sauna at 27 and no one will miss you

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bit please. Zyzz committed suicide due to a botched nose job. I'm also only on Testosterone. Go look at studies of guys who were put on 600mg of testosterone for 3 months. The health effects are negligible. I don't deny that other anabolics such as tren and anadrol are toxic. I only use winstrol 2 months per year. My entire bodybuilding base is on testosterone and my blood work/blood pressure is a ok.

          Keep spewing your nonsense though - I need this thread to hit a lot of replies so I can actually hear some solid advice from guys without a pole up their ass.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are pathetic.

        You do things on a "le meme approved list" because you think it will make you "le meme socially acceptable"

        Just go to reddit you gay.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I use the strength indicator website as a metric for my goals. I don't trust my own brain on what I consider to be 'strong enough' lol.

          I've got goals. I also like to look good and utilise progressive overload while being in a lean state.

          I suppose some of the classic bodybuilders were pathetic gays too - like Frank Zane and Serge Nubret - who stayed contest shape year round.

          When I'm not on cycle, I also practise MMA 3 days per week, and do strength on only 2 days per week. Muscles are useless without the ability to at least use them proficiently IMO.

          I don't understand the hatred tbh. Is it because I use some gear to help hit my strength goals or is it because I don't want to bloat max? Expose your psychology some more anon, I am interested.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Oh no, I'm using some gear at 24. You know Arnold was on that shit at 16?

            Most of the bodybuilders you admire have been on abusive dosages of gear for years on end.

            Unless you don't have any bodybuilders you aspire to emulate? Then I'd wonder why you're even on IST in the first place.

            just have a nice day

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Very enlightening, thank you. The anonymous 'have a nice day' types should not own guns. Columbiners in a nut shell.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >sup IST I want to be top 10% strongest in my weight class but I want to stay lean so I can fuck high schoolers so I'm just going to pump more and more steroids
    You just think you can have everything you want with no consequences. have a nice day now and save us the time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It can be done, it has been done, it will continue to be done by other chads around the world.

      I don't want to up the gear btw. I hate tren.

      I may just settle for intermediate strength and maintain that. Still need to get my last few novice lifts up.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hey IST I want to achieve what other people work their entire lives for but like ASAP so I can get back to having sex amirite haha
    >it's just a question of dosages obviously so tell me what chemicals to inject
    >yeah I'm only 24 but I'd rather fuck up my endocrine system than gain a little fat
    Literally fuck off. Go anywhere else.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, I'm using some gear at 24. You know Arnold was on that shit at 16?

      Most of the bodybuilders you admire have been on abusive dosages of gear for years on end.

      Unless you don't have any bodybuilders you aspire to emulate? Then I'd wonder why you're even on IST in the first place.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    just lift more often, the amount your taking is more than enough, the primary benefit of taking gear is the enchanced recovery time. even if you feel like your completely rekt you can probably do more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I lift around 5 days per week. I do bro split style training. With progressive overload.

      It sounds like what you are suggesting is more of a push pull legs routine? I tried that but always felt like I was training unrecovered.

      I'm a big Mike Mentzer fan and believe in a lot of what he has to say about training. I also noticed more gains after doing the bro split, rather than a PPL style split.

      Thanks for a serious response man. I think my taking a week off from the gym + an increase in my daily diet may help solve the problem.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      no he can't lift more often he just needs to take more drugs

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lol. That is a last resort. I really have no desire to take that option.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no no you should definitely just blast tren until you go from novice shoulders to advanced. There's no other way to get stronger.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you care about being strong then do strength programming instead of meme bodybuilding programming. And gain some fucking weight, getting bigger is the easiest way to get stronger.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Currently on a gram of testosterone, and 50mg of winstrol (every other month).
    Eh?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Halotestin ftw if you can find it. Insane strength gains without adding mass. Rough on the liver though.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need gear to reach advance on strength level though.

    Maybe for elite you do idk

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