I feel like I can "do" a lot more weight than I actually benefit from doing.
50lbs+ I can move around but I don't actually feel good pec activation unless I'm doing only like 25lbs, slowly, with strict form.
As heavy as you can so that you fail between 8 and 12. Stop asking stupid questions and comparing yourself to others, focus on your own progress if you ever hope to make it.
>maxed my apartment gym doing 4x6 50s >thought this was DYEL tier until I saw this thread
Now i'm kind of worried I have bad form since I'm still a fairly noob lifter. How would I tell? It seems pretty hard to cheat chest press with bad form which is why I wasnt worried.
Anon... we are talking about dumbbell flys. Pressing db 50 4x6 is faily dyel/novice tier.
I suspect you can only do 25lbs for a 3x10 or 15 on the flys.
Flys are something where
I feel like I can "do" a lot more weight than I actually benefit from doing.
50lbs+ I can move around but I don't actually feel good pec activation unless I'm doing only like 25lbs, slowly, with strict form.
anon is right. Better to do slow with strict form and get a good stretch at the bottom, with a good contraction at the top.
>good stretch
The stretch is on your tendons and not your chest muscles at all. If you want to stretch your chest muscles, you need to be on the cable machine. This exercise doesn't stretch your chest muscles at all. Furthermore, there is no good contraction at the top, because all the weight is resting on your bone.
This exercise is absolutely worthless (not to mention dangerous).
I think it's better because your chest muscles are actively resisting it flying back (unlike bench flyes, where it's 100% resting on your bone). But the best is a cable machine where you can step out and cross your hands over.
This exercise is one of the worst exercises you can possibly do. It places an immense amount of (bad) stretch on your rotator cuff and the rest of your shoulder and hardly works out your pectoralis major at all. This is right up there with upright rows.
>i REFUSE to learn!
Ok, suit yourself. Btw that "stretch" you feel on your chest is your shoulder tendons screaming for mercy. This exercise doesn't make your chest "nice and wide" because it doesn't actually work your chest with any meaningful weight.
50s
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slightly unrelated, but I dont have a bench for my home gym and am using a yoga ball for these types of exercises, is that bad?
same here. was doing just on a yoga mat but heard its good on a yoga ball. works more muscles etc
>bad
not really since you shouldn't be doing super heavy weights on flys.
I do the pec deck machine. Seems safer for the deep stretch and I can do partials easier.
When I go do dumbbells I do 30's or 35's.
8-10 reps of 25
I feel like I can "do" a lot more weight than I actually benefit from doing.
50lbs+ I can move around but I don't actually feel good pec activation unless I'm doing only like 25lbs, slowly, with strict form.
Why tf would you do these?
You can do more bench instead or more dips or more OHP and get 20x the gains
why not doing em all
also:
my left shoulder hurts
I do 35 lbs. 11x4 currently. Fully extended, no bent armed weightfrauding bullshit.
As heavy as you can so that you fail between 8 and 12. Stop asking stupid questions and comparing yourself to others, focus on your own progress if you ever hope to make it.
>maxed my apartment gym doing 4x6 50s
>thought this was DYEL tier until I saw this thread
Now i'm kind of worried I have bad form since I'm still a fairly noob lifter. How would I tell? It seems pretty hard to cheat chest press with bad form which is why I wasnt worried.
Anon... we are talking about dumbbell flys. Pressing db 50 4x6 is faily dyel/novice tier.
I suspect you can only do 25lbs for a 3x10 or 15 on the flys.
Flys are something where
anon is right. Better to do slow with strict form and get a good stretch at the bottom, with a good contraction at the top.
>good stretch
The stretch is on your tendons and not your chest muscles at all. If you want to stretch your chest muscles, you need to be on the cable machine. This exercise doesn't stretch your chest muscles at all. Furthermore, there is no good contraction at the top, because all the weight is resting on your bone.
This exercise is absolutely worthless (not to mention dangerous).
I already watched the video and am kinda convinced anyways. I have been enjoying the pec deck machine and it seems to be better.
I think it's better because your chest muscles are actively resisting it flying back (unlike bench flyes, where it's 100% resting on your bone). But the best is a cable machine where you can step out and cross your hands over.
35lbs 3x12
i don't do that meme
This exercise is one of the worst exercises you can possibly do. It places an immense amount of (bad) stretch on your rotator cuff and the rest of your shoulder and hardly works out your pectoralis major at all. This is right up there with upright rows.
I’m not watching some dyel israelitetube eceleb you just linked. I do these all the time and it makes my chest nice and wide
Gtfo
>i REFUSE to learn!
Ok, suit yourself. Btw that "stretch" you feel on your chest is your shoulder tendons screaming for mercy. This exercise doesn't make your chest "nice and wide" because it doesn't actually work your chest with any meaningful weight.
this exercise is shit and damaging to your body if you go above 20kg.
Protect your bodies bros.
not all exercises are about the weights some are about the number of reps.
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