How much worse is this than whey or casein and why?

How much worse is this than whey or casein and why?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has a complete amino acid profile and it's cheaper.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's cheaper.
      If what you say about the nutrition is true and it somehow is different and better than regular whey, the price is not going to stay cheap.
      If what you say is false and this product is not as good as regular whey, it will stay cheap.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Onions used to be widely available in retail stores until roughly 2016 when "basedboy" memes took off. The product is fine but demand is low due to superstitions about phytoestrogens.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm an old gay and knew that onions was a problem back in the early 90s. The research and data has been out for decades. Shit is trash.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Uh, oh, homosexuals.
      Lobotomized left wingers lose again.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those aren't significantly different amount anon

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you a moronic newbie ?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No just a person with a brain. You only need like 10-15 EEAs a day. Is this your first year lifting?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >EEAs

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you are moronic.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >double the protein content
          >not significant

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you want my honest opinion?
    I dont think its worse for your regular IST enthusiast
    but I am not THAT comfortable with supporting vegan industry if I can support a more orthodox one, and I know Whey is good for me, so there is no need to change

    but if I'm offered this at a friends house or something I would just chug it without a single negative thought

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This except I would have a hesitation to drink it if offered to me. Not that I believe it's going to kill me or anything, but moreso it'd be like asking me to drink a glass of ketchup. I don't think it'll affect me in the long run, but it's gross and just doesn't seem like something I should be consuming in large quantities.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It has around 15% less leucine. So it's pretty close.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It literally has the word ONIONS on it, are you moronic?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It literally has the word ONIONS on it, are you moronic?
      I know it's a wordfilter, but lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It literally has the word ONIONS on it, are you moronic?
      I know it's a wordfilter, but lmao

      Chuckled

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It literally has the word ONIONS on it, are you moronic?
      I know it's a wordfilter, but lmao

      Onions used to be widely available in retail stores until roughly 2016 when "basedboy" memes took off. The product is fine but demand is low due to superstitions about phytoestrogens.

      Noone knows exactly how shitty onions might be. But nobody claims whey is full of phytoestrogens.

      Don't bother. Just get the whey.

      I'm an old gay and knew that onions was a problem back in the early 90s. The research and data has been out for decades. Shit is trash.

      idk why all the hate on this board, i love fried liver and onions

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noone knows exactly how shitty onions might be. But nobody claims whey is full of phytoestrogens.

    Don't bother. Just get the whey.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Has Noone shared his knowledge with you?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cardiff city legend craig noone

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A third of the available protein in whey. Enough estrogen to troon out. Go for it op.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6358922/pdf/sports-07-00012.pdf
    >To summarize, our data suggest that whey and pea proteins promote similar strength, performance, body composition, and muscular adaptations

    >https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/8/2382/htm
    >no differences found between pea and whey proteins

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
    >A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33905293/
    >Despite marked differences in habitual nutrient intake, healthy, young vegan and omnivorous men did not differ regarding vascular and skeletal muscle structure and function, or cardiovascular fitness.

    >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7312446/
    >A practical application is that consuming plant protein can support strength and muscle development comparably to whey protein

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33599941/
    >A high-protein (~ 1.6 g kg-1 day-1), exclusively plant-based diet (plant-based whole foods + onions protein isolate supplementation) is not different than a protein-matched mixed diet (mixed whole foods + whey protein supplementation) in supporting muscle strength and mass accrual, suggesting that protein source does not affect resistance training-induced adaptations in untrained young men consuming adequate amounts of protein.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19524224/
    >The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither onions foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11352776/
    >We conclude that the phytoestrogen dose consumed had no effect on semen quality.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19819436/
    >Consumption of onions protein of low or high isoflavone content does not adversely affect semen quality in a sample of healthy adult men.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20378106/
    >The intervention data indicate that isoflavones do not exert feminizing effects on men at intake levels equal to and even considerably higher than are typical for Asian males.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30042516/
    >These data suggest that, while isoflavones were detected in SPC, chronic WPC or SPC supplementation did not appreciably affect biomarkers related to muscle androgenic signaling or SQ estrogenic signaling. The noted fiber type-specific responses to WPC and SPC supplementation warrant future research.

    >https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/132/3/570S/4687378
    >The reported studies suggest that onions consumption exerts small effects on hormones in both men and premenopausal women. Although these effects are generally in a beneficial direction
    >beneficial direction

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35197681/
    > Results obtained in this study provide additional evidence about the favourable effect of a plant-based diet on sperm parameters.

    >https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522105332?via%3Dihub
    >Primary food sources of phytoestrogens, including tofu, onions milk, whole grains, tea, and flaxseed, were also inversely associated with total mortality.

    >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19480732/
    >Isoflavone supplementation in healthy males may enhance cognitive processes which appear dependent on oestrogen activation.

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