usually it warm up, one working set leaving maybe 4-5 reps in, i like doing very high reps on this first one (+20) and then as many set to failure as i feel i need, normally 2-3, i just go completely by feel
I don't warm up at all and I go to failure every single set I do, including the first. However, I do lower to a lighter weight, do reps with strict form and slow eccentric, so the first few reps are kind of like a warm up. Am I doing it wrong?
24 sets per group a week
only about 4 of those are taken to failure. I normally run with only 1 rep in reserve and do a to failure set at the end of every week on everything to make sure it's not more than one but that's it. I only use failure as proof of concept it doesn't make up a large part of my volume.
>How often do you train to failure?
every time I'm in the gym, right now about every 5 days because I'm working a lot >and how many sets?
At least my first set to gauge progress, I take the rest of my sets to about RPE 8-9
>every 5 days because I'm working a lot
How has your progress been? >my first set to gauge progress, I take the rest of my sets to about RPE 8-9
that's interesting. I think most people 'save' the failure set for later, not the first set. Do you feel fucked after that first set?
>How has your progress been?
Steady. Working out right now is just something I have to do to stay in acceptable shape, it really isn't a priority, but when I minmax digestion and rest days I can still get stronger. >that's interesting. I think most people 'save' the failure set for later, not the first set. Do you feel fucked after that first set?
I train in the 12-30 rep range, after watching the Bilbo Method guy on instagram (insane bench presser from Spain) and it is really working well for me. Whenever I train with less than 12 reps I can't really work and study the way I want to.
As far fatigue from the first set, it's manageable. The reps drop significantly in the following sets, but I expect it. I like going all out and only caring basically about the first set and then having some freedom for the rest of the workout to say "I just need to go to RPE 8 or 9, the reps don't matter here"
>Steady.
Awesome. Saving this method for when things get hard for me. >reps drop significantly in the following sets, but I expect it
Makes sense. I think you've found what works for you best psychologically. I find that if I push hard on the first set, I can't put as much effort into later sets (RPE goes from like 10 to 5). So I build up to the hard set.
The point of going to failure is to produce the maximum amount of tension that you're capable of in order to terrorize your body into making enough muscle for that particular amount of work not to cause that much stress. Then you do it again when you're recovered with more weight or reps and it has to adapt with even more muscle. If you weaken yourself with sets beforehand it won't work as well.
Getting redpilled here, anon. Say your failure set is 100 lb for 10 reps. What would be your warm ups? Do you do a "feeder" set before the failure st (say 5-8 reps at 100 lb)?
you do normal reps for like 3x8-12, then on your 4th set you do that same weight till failure, if you can start going over 12 on that last failure set, up the weight for the whole thing, repeat and see gains
I'd say go as far as like 85lbs for 5 reps with the warmup if I was going to 100lbs to failure at around 10 reps. I'm sure there's optimal numbers but I only really worry about stopping before a rep gets grindy.
Once a week with each muscle. One set and then one immediate followup set if I didn't manage to really use all the gas in the tank, two follow ups if I still suck at the particular lift.
I train to failure to guesstimate what is my true rep max on given exercise with given weight. Most lifters are training way beyond treshold that they perceive as theirs 2-3 RIR. As Greg Nuckols said training to failure could be suboptimal but at least you're sure that youre reps are effective. I also like to go to failure at last set, either AMRAP or dropset, depedns on exercise.
I rarelt train to failure except when doing Zercher squats. For some reason I always end up destroying my legs with a set to failure when I do them instead of doing a more reasonable weight/rep combo.
Depending on the exercise. I like to use reverse pyramid for compound movements. As a rule of thumb I try to do around 25 working reps. 5*5, 4*8-9, 2*12-15. I do real failure sets only on small exercise like lateral raises (first set 12 reps, second set AMRAP, wait 15 seconds, do AMRAP).
I dont train at all just like the rest of the board
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i dont really feel like i trained if i dont go to failure, out of habit i guess, ive been told its far from optimal
Let's say you do curls. Would you warm up, then do 1 set to failure and move on to another exercise? Or warm up and do 2+ sets to failure?
usually it warm up, one working set leaving maybe 4-5 reps in, i like doing very high reps on this first one (+20) and then as many set to failure as i feel i need, normally 2-3, i just go completely by feel
I don't warm up at all and I go to failure every single set I do, including the first. However, I do lower to a lighter weight, do reps with strict form and slow eccentric, so the first few reps are kind of like a warm up. Am I doing it wrong?
my 4th set
24 sets per group a week
only about 4 of those are taken to failure. I normally run with only 1 rep in reserve and do a to failure set at the end of every week on everything to make sure it's not more than one but that's it. I only use failure as proof of concept it doesn't make up a large part of my volume.
>I only use failure as proof of concept
Based. This idea is why I (OP) asked this question to begin with.
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>How often do you train to failure?
every time I'm in the gym, right now about every 5 days because I'm working a lot
>and how many sets?
At least my first set to gauge progress, I take the rest of my sets to about RPE 8-9
>every 5 days because I'm working a lot
How has your progress been?
>my first set to gauge progress, I take the rest of my sets to about RPE 8-9
that's interesting. I think most people 'save' the failure set for later, not the first set. Do you feel fucked after that first set?
>How has your progress been?
Steady. Working out right now is just something I have to do to stay in acceptable shape, it really isn't a priority, but when I minmax digestion and rest days I can still get stronger.
>that's interesting. I think most people 'save' the failure set for later, not the first set. Do you feel fucked after that first set?
I train in the 12-30 rep range, after watching the Bilbo Method guy on instagram (insane bench presser from Spain) and it is really working well for me. Whenever I train with less than 12 reps I can't really work and study the way I want to.
As far fatigue from the first set, it's manageable. The reps drop significantly in the following sets, but I expect it. I like going all out and only caring basically about the first set and then having some freedom for the rest of the workout to say "I just need to go to RPE 8 or 9, the reps don't matter here"
>Steady.
Awesome. Saving this method for when things get hard for me.
>reps drop significantly in the following sets, but I expect it
Makes sense. I think you've found what works for you best psychologically. I find that if I push hard on the first set, I can't put as much effort into later sets (RPE goes from like 10 to 5). So I build up to the hard set.
The point of going to failure is to produce the maximum amount of tension that you're capable of in order to terrorize your body into making enough muscle for that particular amount of work not to cause that much stress. Then you do it again when you're recovered with more weight or reps and it has to adapt with even more muscle. If you weaken yourself with sets beforehand it won't work as well.
Getting redpilled here, anon. Say your failure set is 100 lb for 10 reps. What would be your warm ups? Do you do a "feeder" set before the failure st (say 5-8 reps at 100 lb)?
you do normal reps for like 3x8-12, then on your 4th set you do that same weight till failure, if you can start going over 12 on that last failure set, up the weight for the whole thing, repeat and see gains
I'd say go as far as like 85lbs for 5 reps with the warmup if I was going to 100lbs to failure at around 10 reps. I'm sure there's optimal numbers but I only really worry about stopping before a rep gets grindy.
Once a week with each muscle. One set and then one immediate followup set if I didn't manage to really use all the gas in the tank, two follow ups if I still suck at the particular lift.
Everytime I train.
Dropsets on everything
Every set (unless I have an injury, in which case I drop the weight a lot and increase the reps). 4 sets per exercise, usually 5 exercises per day.
I try to train to failure with every set, but honestly I usually end with 1/2 RIR 🙁
I train to failure to guesstimate what is my true rep max on given exercise with given weight. Most lifters are training way beyond treshold that they perceive as theirs 2-3 RIR. As Greg Nuckols said training to failure could be suboptimal but at least you're sure that youre reps are effective. I also like to go to failure at last set, either AMRAP or dropset, depedns on exercise.
I rarelt train to failure except when doing Zercher squats. For some reason I always end up destroying my legs with a set to failure when I do them instead of doing a more reasonable weight/rep combo.
Depending on the exercise. I like to use reverse pyramid for compound movements. As a rule of thumb I try to do around 25 working reps. 5*5, 4*8-9, 2*12-15. I do real failure sets only on small exercise like lateral raises (first set 12 reps, second set AMRAP, wait 15 seconds, do AMRAP).