How suppressive are SARMs exactly?

How suppressive are SARMs exactly? I've spent weeks researching roids and lurking /fraud/ to decide against it because I'm 22 and don't want to completely shut down HPTA while my prefontal lobe and shit is still developing.
If I take ostarine for 8 weeks how badly am I fucking myself up in the long run?

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    my rat is almost 2 weeks off a 6-week RAD-140 cycle. i can give it clomid, but the side effects make me think it's just not worth it, plus that ~7.5mg of RAD-140 for 6 weeks might not be suppressive enough to call for a PCT.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      ...your rat?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        my rat fears glowing lights at night, though i personally just hit them with my car.

        Yeah I've read that some SARMs suppress so little that the side effects of PCT outweigh the benefits.
        Is RAD-140 one of the more suppressive ones or less? I'd really like a simple table comparing raw test suppression values by compound but I can't find anything like that.

        well if i wasn't both retarded and broke i'd've gotten blood samples before and after to check numbers, so i'm playing it by ear now. probably not going to use clomid but i have it for the next time since dosage will probably go up to 15mg. definitely going to do blood tests then.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Of course, SARMs are for lab work only anon

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I've read that some SARMs suppress so little that the side effects of PCT outweigh the benefits.
      Is RAD-140 one of the more suppressive ones or less? I'd really like a simple table comparing raw test suppression values by compound but I can't find anything like that.

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also, if you're a SARMs goblin pls give pointers on trying this stuff, I'm just starting my research

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    a lot of the time people will recommend against nolva/clomid because of the potential sides
    if you look at studies for lgd4033 and other shit, test returns to normal after a few weeks

    you can always dip your toes in with low dosage to see how your body responds

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you look at studies for lgd4033 and other shit, test returns to normal after a few weeks
      That's reassuring, I'll look into it. You know if any compounds didn't have that effect? To avoid those.

      https://steroidify.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/The-SARMs-Handbook.pdf
      Do your research across a variety of sources, but this should be a somewhat good starting point

      Exactly what I was looking for, thanks. However:
      >As an interesting fact to add, the majority of users in forums admit not having done PCT, having not used any type of estrogen support, having lost libido during the cycle and having lost most of the muscle gains after the cycle.
      Is this true? This runs contra to pretty much everything I've read, what with 18 year olds running ostarine for literal months and becoming shredded fiends.

      Anything done in moderation and intelligently is going to be okay, anon. I have been wondering the same thing recently, and have been working back and forth with a reliable source on the situation. Get your blood work done before you start. Keep your dosage moderate(10-15mg), and check in every week with yourself and evaluate for side effects. Don’t go over 6 weeks. Make sure you also take a DHT suppressant, don’t drink any alcohol on cycle, and make sure you are staying hydrated, eating well and training frequently. Ostarine is super mild. You most likely won’t need PCT but maybe prepare to do so anyhow.

      Yes I read that some SARMs are probably milder than stuff you can buy at GNC, so that's reassuring. I doubt any of these compounds ran at low doses for 6 weeks could fuck me up permanently.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's some which are probably in PCT-required tier like YK11 and S3 which would be pretty rough for babby's first cycle
        Then from there, RAD and LGD would be the recommendations, with RAD being more suppressive of the two

        In terms of PCT, this really varies between person to person and how your body reacts
        You can form an opinion from anecdotal posts on forums and reddit, but your experience will probably vary
        Some places say no PCT don't bother, others recommend an OTC PCT, others say do the whole gamut and run nolva/clomid for 4 weeks post cycle

        The half life on most of them is pretty short, so if things start going south and you don't want to stick with it, you can just pull the plug

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://steroidify.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/The-SARMs-Handbook.pdf
    Do your research across a variety of sources, but this should be a somewhat good starting point

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything done in moderation and intelligently is going to be okay, anon. I have been wondering the same thing recently, and have been working back and forth with a reliable source on the situation. Get your blood work done before you start. Keep your dosage moderate(10-15mg), and check in every week with yourself and evaluate for side effects. Don’t go over 6 weeks. Make sure you also take a DHT suppressant, don’t drink any alcohol on cycle, and make sure you are staying hydrated, eating well and training frequently. Ostarine is super mild. You most likely won’t need PCT but maybe prepare to do so anyhow.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >If I take ostarine for 8 weeks
    almost nothing but sides will happen

    i tried ostarine on top of trt and it did less than creatine while fucking up my blood pressure, labwork, and sleep

    lgd and rad were stronger but still had enough weird sides to not be worth it. this was with a test base.

    oral anabolics in general are really only useful for peaking and maybe breaking plateaus

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont put research chemicals made by brazilian doctors in your body for 10% gains op

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am wise so I would be getting them from the same sources ppl use for actual gear

      There's some which are probably in PCT-required tier like YK11 and S3 which would be pretty rough for babby's first cycle
      Then from there, RAD and LGD would be the recommendations, with RAD being more suppressive of the two

      In terms of PCT, this really varies between person to person and how your body reacts
      You can form an opinion from anecdotal posts on forums and reddit, but your experience will probably vary
      Some places say no PCT don't bother, others recommend an OTC PCT, others say do the whole gamut and run nolva/clomid for 4 weeks post cycle

      The half life on most of them is pretty short, so if things start going south and you don't want to stick with it, you can just pull the plug

      Yeah I'm seeing a shit ton of variance between users, from gaining 10lbs in 8 weeks while losing bf% to stuff like

      https://i.imgur.com/C468oRl.jpg

      >If I take ostarine for 8 weeks
      almost nothing but sides will happen

      i tried ostarine on top of trt and it did less than creatine while fucking up my blood pressure, labwork, and sleep

      lgd and rad were stronger but still had enough weird sides to not be worth it. this was with a test base.

      oral anabolics in general are really only useful for peaking and maybe breaking plateaus

      If I'm being honest I'm engaging in wishful thinking and hoping a lot of the bad experiences can be explained by bunk SARMs/bad sellers
      Thing is: I can take a 6 week "effective" SARMs cycle that suppresses, or an actual Test cycle that shuts me down completely for 3 months to be "effective." Obviously I would way get more gains on the effective Test cycle but like I mentioned, I'm still developing.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        there are also a lot of spergs who take dumbshit doses (20mg+), have no training base, probably overall bad health, and think that it'll magically make them 10% bf at 250lbs

        if you want to dip your toes in, try a low dose and go from there
        you'll need to consider supporting things such as an AI, PCT, liver support, etc. for test as well

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been thinking about LGD 4033. From what I understand, it's fairly suppressive and requires PCT above 5mg. There's talk that it will be brought to market soon as a pharmaceutical. Never done PEDs of any kind, but I'm wondering if this would be stupid: taking 10mg LGD for 8 weeks, then Nolva 20mg for 4 weeks, same as picrel. Taking a PCT when I don't need one concerns me more than SARMS, not sure if that's dumb but it's how I feel about it. I'm thinking if I take a suppressive SARM at a moderately high dose, I won't have to do any guesswork with the PCT. I will know I'll need it and I won't be tempted to skip it from fear of Nolva sides. Before anyone mentions it, I live in Canuckistan and getting bloodwork before and after is a bitch, most especially in my neck of the woods. If this sounds like a terrible idea please let me know.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just pin test. It’s unironically beyond fucking retarded to choose sarms over test

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        How old are you?

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Could you elaborate on why test would be better than an 8 week LGD cycle? Pinning isn't an issue for me, more like hiding needles from friends and all that would feel sketch

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