HOW THE FUCK DO I CONSILIATE STRENGTH TRAINING WITH CALISTHENICS? (planche, frontlever, handstand pushup...)

HOW THE FUCK DO I CONSILIATE STRENGTH TRAINING WITH CALISTHENICS?
(planche, frontlever, handstand pushup...)

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do it on rest day. I don't care what anyone else says, your muscles aren't ripped to shreds doing calisthenics like weightlifting, so you should be fine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've been tried that, but my core ends up being too sore to squat and deadlift

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A handstand pushup is harder than a 2pl8 ohp

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, you can achieve it a lot faster unless you are really fat

        Just go all in with calisthenics movements, you will make more progress than trying to split 50/50.

        At some point you will stall and then introduce a few weight lifting movements as accessory exercises and it will also help with adding variation.

        I struggled with this too for a long time, and I found more progress and success when I went all-in on calisthenics and their related exercises. Weights can be used later to fill little gaps, but you can do 90% of your training with different variations of the movement you hope to achieve.

        Good luck and merry Christmas

        what if you've worked hard to get to 1/2/3/4 and dont want to lose that? i don't want to lose those gains
        do you guys think i could do full body weightlifting 2x a week and calisthenics 2 times too?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's harder unless you're really scrawny
          You won't lose strength by changing how you challenge your muscles. You'll probably gain strength as calisthenics uses far more stablising muscles.
          2/2 sounds good but do simple things like planche or pullups when you can

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            thanks for the advice

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > what if you've worked hard to get to 1/2/3/4 and dont want to lose that? i don't want to lose those gains
          Gains come back easier the second time around. Besides, you need to make peace with achieving better strength to body weight ratio. If you want progress in calisthenics, you will lose Weight in some way. You will lose leg muscle and body fat most likely.

          But that’s fine. You can gain that back in two months after you you achieve your goals. At some point you need to realize that if you want to achieve specific difficult goals you have to specialize for awhile. Nobody good at anything is tepidly dividing their attention between two separate goals.

          What do you REALLY want? Do you want a high squat? Or a one arm pull up?

          Do you want a nice bench? Or a free standing HSPU?

          Do you want a big deadlift? Or xyz etc

          Decide specifically which goal you want. And try to weed out all the training that prevents you achieving that goal in a reasonable amount of time. And yes, too much unrelated training does interfere with specific skills.

          For me personally I had to quit bench, deadlift, squat, and power cleans in order to achieve a one armed pull up and a free standing HSPU. Was I happy with the trade? Yes. I made better progress than trying to do both, and I actually achieved a very tangible goal rather than “bigger number.”

          But you have to make that choice if that’s meaningful to you.

          Or, keep doing what you’re doing and hope you achieve what should be a 6 month goal in like a year or 2. No guarantees there either, Time is a terrible thing to waste

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not about easy vs hard. It’s about how physically stressful it is. You can do calisthenics everyday without issues

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Stop talking about shit you don't do. You do a chin-up once a week and suddenly you're a calisthenics expert. Fucking idiot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do the balance shit after your strength training. Don't bother with any calisthenics strength shit it's inferior aside from maybe a weighted pull-up. The strength training will build the strength for shit like russian dips better than calisthenics will. I know, I've done it. The balance shit is what's hard. Also deemphasize squats and deadlifts, do single leg shit instead like weighted step ups or lunges.

      >calisthenics doesn't use muscle
      great advice fatass

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >balance stuff AFTER strength training
        Kek. You couldn’t give worse advice than this

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just go all in with calisthenics movements, you will make more progress than trying to split 50/50.

    At some point you will stall and then introduce a few weight lifting movements as accessory exercises and it will also help with adding variation.

    I struggled with this too for a long time, and I found more progress and success when I went all-in on calisthenics and their related exercises. Weights can be used later to fill little gaps, but you can do 90% of your training with different variations of the movement you hope to achieve.

    Good luck and merry Christmas

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i need answers, there must be someone here based enough to develop both the big 4 and calisthenics

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pushups are too hard ~~~

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kudos to you IST, for not taking this obvious antisemitic bait. You've made me (a garden gnome) very happy and I wish all of you a merry Christmas!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      (you)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks schlomo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Greatest ally

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got a source on the text in OP’s image?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    do them as accessories after barbell movements and understand the progression will be slower
    or if doing plyometrics, train them as a warm up for barbell movements (you dont want to train to perform fast in a fatigued state)

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