How the fuck do people reach 2pl8 bench within months? i struggle with 60kg 8 reps after gym going for 4 years.
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How the fuck do people reach 2pl8 bench within months? i struggle with 60kg 8 reps after gym going for 4 years.
Oh. So it's a doujin. I thought it was some one off piece.
They don't have to be short, but your weight, height and arm length plays a huge roll. Even the chads at the gym rarely do 2pl8 bench, unless they're massive. Like over 210 pound guys.
i thought 2 plates was super easy? like something that a guy achieves after lifting for 2 months casually.
Only on the internet.
if you weigh 190lb+ yea 2 pl8s is easy as shit to hit.
This. I hit 225 in high school in a few months but my secret was being a fat kid.
>i thought 2 plates was super easy? like something that a guy achieves after lifting for 2 months casually.
nobody thinks that you are the only retard who does
2 plates for working sets is very rare.
Everyone who "benches 2pl8s" bounces it off their chest a couple while the spotter does most of the work
its attainable it just takes over a year for most people to get there
I don't see any reason why I can work with 195 right now but won't be able to work with 225 in a couple of months
Yeah. But only if you're in you personal home gym after you get done with your 500k a year work from home programming job and you tape your massive 14" cock out of the way
Doujin writers really need to hire hookers or something prior to making their comics. The fact the author has never had sex is just super obvious and such a turn off. Hell just look up photos or something. You'd have to be a literal child to think an asshole is that far away from the pussy
i'm pretty sure it's a stylistic choice, obviously the author knows anatomy
No, I followed the link to take a look and in the panels where she's riding with her ass facing the viewer, the artist drew her butthole up where her tailbone ends. It's totally bizarre
A literal man like me would love to have that asshole damn close to my mouth
>t. didn't read it
My brother in Christ, you don't read hentai for it's realism.
If they'd ever had sex they would be drawing that kind of shit, hentai is a niche made by virgins for virgins.
thanks bro, thats all i wanted
Top tier stuff
Into the trash it goes
It's all I want bros
Why are we both cursed with these kinks? So tantalizing yet never to be real
Hopefully one day we'll get to live them out fren, it's just out of reach for us
Im 6'3, built and confident, have girls pay me mires and flirt but these traits you describe break my worldview and nothing seems good enough until I see a girl with them.
GODDAMN IT I NEED A GIRL WITH THEM NOW!
i don't get it, isn't that just what a normal gym is like?
I fucking hate when they timeskip from non-sexual to sexual, at least show her pulling it out
>turned on by nipples
I assumed it would be a fit guy planking with her on top for an hour while she's feeling his muscles. Dropped, I wish they made cute hentai where the guy is fit and not a complete gay.
Being muscular in japan is basically screaming that you're gay, ironically.
Probably why fit white dudes slay so fucking hard over there
>why is that guy so masculine?
>look at his big quads and arms, gosh
>could it be that I'm.. gay?
>no way I'm not gay he's gay
I hate this normie logic. I don't look at porn much nowadays but I've looked at NTR shit just so I can self insert as the guy, I cringe when the guy's a skinny sad nerd, especially if he's submissive.
Meh, no foreplay? Into the trash it goes.
Yeah agree. It'd be toptier if it had some foreplay tbh.
have a nice day coomer
thank you sir for first posting the needful, respect and have a good day
She better be a fucking futa
Their height, weight, biomechanics, genetics, diet, stress/hormone levels and practice.
maybe eat more or re-evaluate your goals. Once I hit a 3pl8 1rm I made the decision to get into other fitness shit instead of going bloaty to chase down reps.
ngmi, once I hit 1pl8 I made the decision to throw away the bench and start doing weighted dips instead going bloaty to chase down 3pl8
Genetics play a huge factor in strength. Some people are not only stronger without any training but also gain strength faster. Most people do not have "the strong" in the same way these people do.
basically this. get as strong as you can with weights, sure, but reality check urself and consider different fitness paths if you want to see what you're body's capable of.
Body types are a real thing
>i struggle with 60kg 8 reps after gym going for 4 years.
Its because you haven't actually done the work, just going to the gym doesn't magically give you muscles.
No. You know nothing about OP actually, so saying he isn't lifting "hard enough" is bullshit. If he's like 6 feet tall and weighs 160 pounds, 2pl8 is hard af. See
Dude I'm on the tail end of a cut at 172 6 foot and my working weight is 185
It's the week of my one year lifting anniversary
>If he's like 6 feet tall and weighs 160 pounds
that's me to a t.
I assumed pretty well then. I could tell by your working weight. You're probably around 16% bodyfat too and have good definition, though you're not shredded.
Nope, he's not just doing the work, "muh genetics" is just a dyel cope.
Genetics play a huge role in how strong you are and how fast you progress...
...but not that big of a role that you can't do better than 60kg x 8 in 4 years. Very clearly not working hard. You don't need good diet/programming to do better than that, you just need to try harder.
>t. short and/or fat
You didn't start out fat as shit and you don't estat
I can only bench 165 after ~2 years of lifting. but I also weigh 150lbs. so that's like a 205lb guy benching 2pl8. Ideally I will eventually weigh ~165-175 and bench 2pl8 or more, but that is a multi year transformation and not a 6 month thing.
lol im 155lbs and i hit 2pl8 within 6 months tbh. the secret is high volume, high frequency.
How tall are you?
If 5’10” is the king of manlets then is 5’9” the little prince?
I do 5x5 3 times a week. I lost the ability to make linear progression at 130lbs. I've put 5lbs on my orm less than once a month since then
when I started to plateau, i began to do lots of very high rep high volume stuff on my light days (5x10's and backoffs to failure) PRing the on light days ulimately led to me PRing heavy triples on my heavy days. If something isn't working/you are plataueing you need to switch something up. For me it was adding a fuck load of volume. oh yea and eat the protein and slept my ass off.
do 5x8,8,7,7,(to failure) twice a week instead
you are doing too much weekly volume to get good recovery at your level, and adding some higher volume stuff will give you a good growth stimulus to push you over the hump. Mix it up, don't stick strictly to 5x5 and add in some (to failure) sets because those are the key to creating good growth stimulus.
also i forgot to add but i played alot of sports in highschool too so that may have had something to do with it.
People are either:
2) They didn't start from being a completely sedentary person well past their teens ()
I only started lifting a few months ago from being completely sedentary gamer, and I'm struggling to make it past 1pl8. Linear progression pretty much stopped around a similar point for all of my lifts.
This. Hell, even if you weren't completely sedentary, you might not have done the "correct" type of exercise.
I couldn't do a single push-up until I was already 17-18. My LP bench stalled at 100lb. I'm at 125lbx8 now after a year and it's taken me huge amounts of effort to get here (going beyond failure every single bench set, lots of chest, triceps and shoulder volume, improving leg drive, etc.).
Meanwhile I did quite a bit of swimming as a kid so my pulling exercises fucking exploded in comparison. I can do +25lbx6 chin-ups at 150lb. Not the strongest but it's waaay better than my bench.
>How the fuck do people reach 2pl8 bench within months?
By lying on the internet.
If you're a man and this isn't a shitpost get your T levels checked.
[email protected] yesterday
took me four months to hit 225x2
What app is that? I'd like something to track my lifts.
Bro, what app is this one? I’m still using Excel but I like graphs.
They're superior to you genetically
They're taking gear or supplements you aren't
They're eating better and nutrition maxxing
They're sleeping better and sleep maxxing
Their technique/form is better (lift technique, rest period patterns, set and rep structure, muscle group/exercise order)
Their mental fortitude is stronger, they push themselves harder
They are less stressed out than you
They are dedicating more time than you are
Be honest with yourself. Where are your weaknesses? Where can you make improvements (if possible)? Focus on those things. If you answer "I'm great at all of these things and STILL can't make gains" then you're no different from a 350 pound fat person who tells us they LITERALLY eat 400 calories per day and still can't lose any weight.
They have athletic training prior to the gym. Simple as.
>verification not required
>Their mental fortitude is stronger, they push themselves harder
>They are dedicating more time than you are
It isn't a "I just work harder brah" "You gotta man up and put in the effort"
It is all body type. Height, weight, biomechanics, genetics.
This is a really stupid and sad post. Of course those things matter, but to say hard work isn't a factor is pure cope.
They matter obviously. Not to the point of outlifting genetics. There comes a point where a person can think that they're never doing enough because of the "I'm just a harder worker than you" when clearly that is not the case. A person's basic structure is a major factor.
Why is it only weight training that people don't think genetics has anything to do with it?
>Keep training bro...you'll be in the NBA soon...You're just not putting in the work!"
>genetics muh genetics
This is starting to smell like that blackpill retard shitposting on the whitepill threads.
im curious now to see how hard it is. I havent benched in a few months, depressed as fuck not eating right etc. Gonna try to build up to 2 pl8 and see how far I get doing 1 rep max
They're probably fat. It took me a long time to hit 2 plates, but I stay lean and don't do a lot of strength work.
Doing 3x12 progressive overload,
Started at 60%1rm and going to hit 80%1rm before May. Should I keep going up or should I retest 1rm and rerack to the new 60%?
I dunno I've done tons of pushups and dips in my day. 2 plate was easy.
I've been chugging for about 6 or 7 cumulative months in the last year (life situation made it hard to get to the gym for a couple of 2-month episodes) and this week I lifted 195x8
If you actually bench twice a week for 8-12 months straight you should be able to get to 2pl8 easily enough
I struggled with 55 for years, then hit 80 within a year. Aiming for a 100 next year. Just changed my diet and training plan.
Keep in mind that most of the posters here are in their early 20s. If you're old like me, it can take more time for you to reach your goal than for an average zoomer.
Go to gym more often
I hit 2 plate in 4 months of going. I went 6 days a week and hit chest twice a week. Going past 2 plate though is hard for me. Been stuck for months since hitting 2 plate.
Must also have to do with weight and general previous fitness.
Try starting your workout with bench so you can put maximum energy towards it.
I was a 112 at 6'3 kilos when I started and have been cutting down, now 102kg after about 4-5 months of lifting
I felt the same honestly for the first 3 months only improving from 50 to 70, but then decided to switch up from high reps to just busting out 1-3 rep maxes
I could barely hit 80 for one rep at first and had gym dudes come over to save my ass as I failed each day, constantly having to do the roll of shame and eventually started using the squat rack cause it had safetys
About after about a month around 2 weeks ago I hit 2 pl8 and have been content with that, only trying to up my endurance at that level for now trying to set 2pl8 rep maxes
Now I have tendinitis tho so kinda sucks and cant exercise, strength outgrew my tendons
why you doing 8 reps bro
just do 3 sets of 5, it's optimal
My bro the reps and sets don't fucking matter
Some lads walk into gym at like 240lbs and then blogpost about lmao i was benching two plate within months, meanwhile 160lbs little bros are reading this and can't get third of the way there after working out for 10 years
I never understood why people ask this. Isn't a pushup like benching 3/4 of your bodyweight? We used to have to do 20 pushups a day in high school so I would think people would be starting around 2pl8 right into adulthood.
idk, pushups i feel them in my pecs. Benchpress I don't feel shit
Like how can you say this? Go to your local super market and notice the amount of people that are struggling to carry their 15-20lbs shopping bar... two plate for an average person might as well be two tons
its more like half at best
I could do like 60 pushups in the military (which is low) and the first weight I put on the bar was around 85 for 10 reps
They’re fat lol you shouldn’t be chasing numbers unless you want to compete or something.
how do you guys find room to bench twice or even 3 times a week? I'm 40, doing PPL and struggle with getting enough rest as is already, DOMS is seriously delayed
sunday - two heavy sets
tuesday - 75% close grip
thursday - three heavy sets
NTA, how much do you press? I train BP once a week and do 2x2pl8 close grip
Not bad at all. How are your lower body lifts?
I just did 5x3pl8 back squat the other day and I've started to train ATG pause front squats for future bragging rights. My DL is stuck at lmao3.5pl8 because I don't really train it.
kinda bad? squatting 255x6
last time I dead it was 385x3 but that was a couple months ago
I've sadly lost the love I had for working lower but I'd like to achieve 315 squat for reps
Squats are a very technical lift, if you're reaching depth at least. There's a lot that goes into improving them, probably more than presses. Passion for them comes when you nerd out about them.
You just think that because you're virgins. After you've had sex a couple of times, you'll want to dominate a cute girly girl like everyone else.
Nope, always liked tomboys.
femdom is the problem here
Ah dont worry bro, that shits weird and literally doesn't exist outside porn. Reality is girls like strong guys. My desire is a fit, sporty girl to share my love of fitness with and have children. Its a longshot in the shithole that is America, but I'll never stop lifting to the goal.
Good for you anon. I'm Balkan, I just want to make a good income then I can move to the village and get married and live the dream.
You'll make it bro, we all will. Except OP in his current state however.
If you're not benching over 2pl8 I really wouldn't worry about it. Just stick to 5x5-5x10 twice a week at most
I hit 225 bench for 3 reps at 165-175 (my weight fluctuates a lot because of poor diet habits) in one semester ~3.5 months. When I started, I could only bench a 135 for reps. My seated ohp was 165 at 165 bw, 315 squat for 1, 365 deadlift. After not working out for ~1.5 months, I could still push 225 bench for 1 rep. I would only go to the gym high (daily smoker) and had a copious nicotine addiction during the time. I usually ate my first meal of the day at 2 pm before going to the gym, but sometimes went to the gym on an empty stomach (usually just 2 scoops of oatmeal with pb and bananas). I did PPL five times a week and occasionally hit chest twice a day to workout with my friend who was just getting into the gym. Genuinely curious anons, are my genetics gifted or is it because I trained harder than other guys?
I’d like to add that I’m 5’10 and my 165 ohp was for 1 rep. Sorry for the lengthy post, any insight would be much appreciated
You have excellent genetics. Most people can't handle that much volume without it being actively detrimental. You're hitting about double the volume that most hardcore routines have.
Thanks anon, whenever I read about someone with similar stats and progress on fit I just see a lot of people calling them liars or that they have shit rom/form. Also curious, would I have progressed faster/further if I didn’t smoke weed/nicotine or could that have somehow possibly helped my progress? Would lowering the intensity/frequency of my workouts also helped me progress faster?
smoking definitely doesn't help your health
You'll be forced to lower the frequency of your lifts as they go higher. Doing 30 set of bench a week is a shit ton. I do 10 occasionally 20 and often when I add another set of 5s to my bench I'll get DOMs, doing more volume than that would definitely hurt more than it would help.
Interesting, I always assumed that intensity was beneficial as long as you felt your body could handle it. I rarely experienced DOMS (minimal soreness at best that wasn’t noticeable unless my muscles were flexed) despite pushing for higher numbers every week. I also didn’t follow a strict program and benched 6-7 sets a chest day, followed by 6 sets of incline dumbbell press. I know that your body needs sufficient time to rest and grow, but is spamming that many sets that detrimental if I rarely felt sore/very tried after working out?
You would have noticed if it was detrimental. Trying to lift with DOMS is not subtle at all.
Good to know, from what I’ve been told DOMS isn’t indicative of tiring your muscles to failure but I wondered if I should push harder so I could feel sore. I stopped working out entirely for 5 months but could still hit 205 for reps and 225 for 1 when I went to the gym with my friend. Is it my central nervous system or muscle fibers that helped me achieve this progress? I know it’s probably a combination of factors, but what’s the main factor determining strength gains in my case? Thanks for the feedback by the way
DOMS is an indicator that you've given your muscles an excellent stimulus for growth. If you have DOMS, it's a good sign, if you don't, doesn't necessarily mean you aren't making progress.
>I stopped working out entirely for 5 months but could still hit 205 for reps and 225 for 1 when I went to the gym with my friend. Is it my central nervous system or muscle fibers that helped me achieve this progress?
Not only does it take over a month for muscles to start atrophying, but you will retain structure even if you go for a really long time without lifting, and when you retrain them you will make super fast progress back to close to your original strength. AS far as I know CNS gains are also completely permanent because your body never cannibalizes the new nerve connections.
The only way to permanently lose a substantial amount of strength is to roid for a while and then stop.
I only really get DOMS if I stop working out for a while and then start again. It's good not to feel it every time though, because it's kinda debilitating.
My DOMS stopped being debilitating after like my 3rd week of working out. Sure you can't really exert yourself but my daily life at school and stuff isn't really affected.
I meant debilitating for working out. I work out daily so DOMS is a bit of an issue.
If you have DOMS you just need to not work that muscle group. Rest and recovery is just as important as moving heavy things.
ik but if you have DOMS from pull workouts it'll still feel like shit and affect your performance the next day even if you're doing push instead. It was a problem when I was starting back up again.
I stopped getting it now though. Now I only feel it the day of the workout, and the next day I'll only feel it a little even if I really flex.
I do an upper-lower split so my DOMS goes away by the time I do another workout and is long gone by the time I hit the same muscle group.
Awesome info, my goal when I get back in the gym is 2/3/4/5 but my deadlift is lacking (I get apprehensive when pushing for deadlift 1rms). Is my weight going to be an issue? I’ve never followed a diet or attempted to bulk besides downing 2 scoops protein every night. All time bench pr was 245 at ~170 after those 3.5 months.
Noted, I sort of enjoyed the feeling of DOMS so I will switch up my routines on some days and see how it works out.
It's almost as if everyone is different.
I love the feeling of DOMS. On one hand I can not imagine what sort of a pussy wuss nancy doesn't like that feeling - but then again as in the first part of my post I guess we all experience things differently.
If you WANT to feel DOMS, the best way to do it is to bump up the volume. I always get DOMS when I go from for example like 185 5x8,8,7,7,6 to 186 10,10,8,8,10 (last set to failure)
just EAT anon. If you have long arms (wingspan in inches is longer than height) then bench pressing will be harder. if you don't fucking EAT and are a skeleton you will also have 0 mass to throw up against the bar.
I was like that for 2 years couldn't get past 1pl8 MAX. After I started eating properly I got my bench up to 200 x 7, which admittedly isn't all that much, and I've never benched 2pl8, but for now it's enough.
So EAT UP
Start off at 200lbs. Your struggle is likely that you're skinny building up as opposed to most guys who report hitting 2pl8 in a few months whose only real concern is turning that existing mass into muscle.
Took me literally 6 years. You’ll get there op
Everyone is different. My goal is to see myself getting bigger, and stronger over time. Never forget where you came from and how far you have come.
Don't be a weak woman
If that takes you 4 years man.. your scheme, diet, intensity sucks dick. all of them equally. back to the drawing board, nothing to do with genetics 100% your fault
Needs to be futa railing his ass in that position as he does pushups.
I've been going to the gym for a year and I can only bench 75kg (165lbs) for sets of 5. And even then just barely.
That's roughly my bodyweight for reference. Slightly lower.
I’m same, I’m 5’7, around 170lbs age 20 I can do 75kg for three sets of five. My highest max was 87.5kg
you guys hella weak. i did 2 pl8 after 3 weeks and i do 4pl8 now 6 months later. Eat more lift more pussy weak pathetic losers
I’ve never had a problem continuously adding weight to my lifts. In 2018 I stuck to a program (after taking 6months off from the gym consistently) I walked in benching 150 and with in 6-8 weeks I benched 300 for my 1RM. To this day it’s still the most I’ve ever done, but I also don’t lift for weight anymore. Similar with squatting and deadlifting. I like adding weight even if it’s 2.5lbs it gives me motivation to keep going. At the time I was 6-2 280 (fat ass). Curious if I tried it again at 220 if I could do 300 again
My first lift in the gym as in first ever warmup was a 1pl8 and I went up to 20pl8s and got bored so I lifted the gym off its foundations and went home as I got banned from the gym , never went back. I had a twix and pack of californian raisins preworkout . Postworkout I had four whole roast chickens and a coke.
arm length makes a huge difference
lanklets progress in pressing movements much more slowly than manlets
I have fucking tiny hands so I can barely hold on to the bar when I deadlift
like my actual deadlift muscles progress so much faster than my grip strength
I know girls love big hands, am I ngmi on account of these
Start at ~40kg
Do Starting strength, put on 3.75kg a week
If you're eating and sleeping right you probably shouldn't stall before you hit 2p8
This makes it doable for most healthy young men in 4 months .
/plg/ tripfags I summon you, pls tell us the secrets for a big bench
By sleeping, wanting enough and following a real program instead of fucking around like I'm pretty sure you are doing and progressive overload, I would bet money you go to the gym, pick whatever machine is available at the moment and only add more weight when you "feel" the current weight is getting easy
One of the hammer strength plate loaded flat bench press machines might be a good way to go about it, though my gym does not have one. Might piss some people off, but a great way to achieve 2pl8 is by rolling one of the free benches into a squat rack and positioning the safety bars accordingly. Being able to really challenge your bench strength with both a free barbell and no hesitancy to go to failure is the key. You'll take up a squat rack, and you'll look silly wiggling in and out from under a loaded bar, but it works. Your bench will be flying up in no time
Those squat racks are literally designed for you to also be able to also bench in them.
If there isn't like a line to use equipment then you shouldn't feel ashamed at all to sit in a squat rack for some time.
In a perfect world gyms would just have a row of 10 full featured squat racks like my high school.
I hear you, just thinking that it might be a mental barrier for some. Pay it no mind and bench away