How the fuck is anyone who wants to lose weight supposed to make sense of all the wildly varying and contradictory advice found on?

How the fuck is anyone who wants to lose weight supposed to make sense of all the wildly varying and contradictory advice found on IST and in the normiesphere?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eat less there's nothing else to it.

    all diets are just different methods to eat less.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      eat less
      that is all

      and exercise

      get some cardio and don't eat too much

      simple as, everything else is details

      I have heard that not posting reddit frogs dramatically increases your fat loss speed. Try it.

      >reddit frogs

      clearly you are new

      shadilay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dont listen to
      Eat as much animal foods as you desire par from dairy and you WILL lose all the fat while keeping or even increasing (if skinnyfat) your muscle mass

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I went 230lbs-172lbs doing cico over 6months, some months I just ate healthy/whole foods, spinach, onions, oranges, grapefruit, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, are all really good for satiation. I had an entire 2months I took a break and just maintained eating at maintenance of mostly junk food, gained no weight, now I'm back on the diet and only have 10-15lbs to go.
      you can eat whatever you want if it fits your calories, but if you eat junk you'll be really hungry aswell as unhealthy, but you can fix that later, priority is just losing weight.

      this

      Dont listen to
      Eat as much animal foods as you desire par from dairy and you WILL lose all the fat while keeping or even increasing (if skinnyfat) your muscle mass

      yeah no you're just a fat retard that has to believe in some dumb pipe dream to lose weight

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    eat less
    that is all

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have heard that not posting reddit frogs dramatically increases your fat loss speed. Try it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m skinny and I frogpost on the reg 24 sevs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trial and error.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Read the sticky. Have you done it? Pls respond honest.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore/Keto is an unsustainable scam. That is all I have to say.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can do keto & CICO & IF for quick weight loss and for an easy way cut out lots of bad foods. After a few months you can start adding in other healthy stuff. It works very well in this manner.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cut red meat and fat
    >no no no, cut all carbs stupid

    >eat a variety of colorful vegetables and fruit
    >what are you doing, carnivore and has all the nutrients you need

    >ditch saturated fats in favor of vegetable oils
    >SNEED oils, pufa overload

    >low intensity cardio, fat burning zone
    >Hitt only, low intensity kills gains

    I feel you OP.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't eat sugar
    >Don't eat processed food
    >Actually eat less
    >Exercise if you can but it's not needed
    That's all.
    You can do specific diets that'll work better but not being a fatass is very simple (just eat less).

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe actually read about dieting instead of counting calories like a retard?

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s like this across every fitness based platform.

    Until you learn to differentiate between what sounds like retard advice, the best possible starting place for you is to do the following:
    >track calories
    Weigh every little thing that goes inside your mouth out and log it on my fitness pal or whatever app or even a notebook. Make sure you remain in a 250-500 calorie deficit daily.
    >exercise
    Yeah lift and shit, but also walk for 1-2 hours per day. If you have access to one do treadmill on max incline.

    This will ensure you’re in a deficit and you will melt. It’s on you to stay consistent with it. Consistency is the key to all this. As you make progress and form new habits, you will be able to decide which advice to try out and see what works best for you and form your own opinions.
    So just forget everything else for now. Calorie deficit, exercise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exercise does nothing for weight loss and may even be counter-productive for most people.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What the ever loving fuck is this unadulterated horse shit. Unless your hips are broken, or you need a helmet and water wings just to go outside, exercise is fundamental to the body’s health.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I lost over 100lbs in a year just eating a deficit and doing a ton of walking but okay cope and tell me I’m wrong so you can remain weak

        What the ever loving fuck is this unadulterated horse shit. Unless your hips are broken, or you need a helmet and water wings just to go outside, exercise is fundamental to the body’s health.

        Don’t bother, he wants to stay fat and weak let him remain as a sniveling delusional pussy where he’s comfortable. It’s not our problem if he refuses to accept the truth.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's an ancient forbidden technique known as THINKING FOR YOURSELF YOU RETARDED NPC FFS JUST GOOGLE HOW MANY CALORIES A BLOB OF YOUR SIZE NEEDS FOR MAINTENANCE AND EAT FEWER THAT'S IT THAT'S ALL ANYONE WILL TELL YOU JUST DO THAT AND YOU'LL BE HUMAN SIZE IN NO TIME

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did this but my metabolism slowed down and I platued at 1200 calories as a 6'1 100kg male

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You what as 100kg?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1200
        lies

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok bring it back up for a few weeks to maintenance or just higher like 1700, see what happens, then go back down.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YARRR MATEY

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YARRRRR MATEY!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YARRR MATEY

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What macros are you aiming for?
    Please don't tell me you're counting calories and trying to reach a deficit. It's painful to watch people subject themselves to starvation instead of fixing their metabolic health and becoming healthy naturally.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's the thing fatfuck anon. The popular diets? They all work. You can lose weight on Keto, Carnivore, Paleo, Atkins, Vegan, and High Carb Low Fat. The problem is nobody sticks to them. Not saying those are all good for long-term health, but weight loss dieting is a solved problem. It's just console wars in IST. Now once you're at a healthy BMI that's when it gets tricky. Those last ten to fifteen pounds you really have to know your shit to lose and keep them off.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Explain Jimmy Moore then.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't all work, that's the thing.
      It's profitable to sell diet books, but the real science behind nutrition is obfuscated by the bright flashy easy math that any sub-100 IQ brain-fogged dieter can indulge themselves on.
      Some of the diets you listed don't "work" because they fail to solve the cause of obesity, a surplus of insulin, and instead restrict your nutrition to the point that your body burns your fat, muscle, and organs trying to tap into anything to just get a little more energy.
      Like a hungry man with his mouth sewn shut trying desperately to eat anything, but failing.

      Your body is metabolically unwell and can't store, consume, or retrieve the energy it needs.

      If you continue down this path of fringe hippy retard starvation diets to attempt to fix the underlying issue instead of adopting an eating lifestyle that isn't poisonous, there are consequences you will reap.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If whoever giving you advice on how to get lean won't post their body, ignore them

    simple as

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah yes, naturally lean people know all about losing weight.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes much better to take advice from someone who's fat, right anon

        There's a reason the schizoposters screeching in diet threads never post their bodies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Someone who is/was fat has more understanding and experience of dieting than a healthy person who is not yet been capable of gaining weight.
          If you can't grasp this, please, by all means, castrate yourself and any progeny you raped into this world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm naturally fat anon, but have got to 10% bodyfat many times in my life at 200lbs+ despite being twice as old as the average ISTposter

            Again, anyone giving diet advice and not posting body as evidence should be ignored

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you're constantly gaining weight, have you considered you don't know how to diet, only starve?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop eating gay
    Simple as

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're not we want you want to as fat as you are stupid. You see this? It means "not welcome"

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty much it is just running a calorie deficit while doing some exorcise to keep your metabolic rate up. Your body will start burning less calories after awhile. Walk 2-4 miles a day at least 5 days a week. Depending on how out of shape you are you might have to work up to that amount of exercise in a week. Change your diet to include lots of protein and fiber. If you are going from eating mainly unhealthy food you should probably introduce healthier foods a little slowly. If you hardly eat lettuce and then you switch to only eating salads you are going to feel like shit and have a lot of bloating and probably terrible shits. Just switch out on meal at a time a week. So change your breakfast to something healthy week one then the next week change your lunch then by week three you will be eating nothing but healthy foods.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bottom line is that you need to be able to burn more calories than you take in. It is more complex than that but that is the foundation. Tell us more about your situation or what your body goals are. I’ve lost about 50 pounds in the last 5 months. Definitely not done but I’m happy to share what I can about getting started

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You find what works for you, shug 🙂

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eat less, move more is the most important part. How you achieve that is up to you. Every meme diet that has any validity to it restricts calories in some way. If somebody locks you in a room and feeds you 800 calories per day of rice, chicken and broccoli, you will 100% get to your goal weight eventually. Don't miss the forest for the trees.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Conversely, if you're locked in a room and fed 8,000 calories per day of rice, chicken, and broccoli, there is a great chance that you may get to your weight goal, as well.
      Of course, CICO-retards can't explain it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Conversely, if you're locked in a room and fed 8,000 calories per day of rice, chicken, and broccoli
        Imagine the smell

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I get this is a place to shitpost but it seems like OP actually wants to lose weight. If you want to post obviously retarded shit then go be fat in another thread. No reason to sabotage a brothers weight loss just because you can’t figure it out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Please, explain why a type-2 diabetic loses weight while they eat 4,000 calories a day, without using anything else but your calories-in, calories-out model.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Perfect. I’m type 1. They lose weight because insulin is the hormone that carries sugar to the cells of the body. If they are diabetic then they don’t make insulin. The calories are still there but they are still trapped in the sugar molecules crystallizing in the blood. The CICO model doesn’t account for this because the calories have not been fully digested. CICO is about food that is digested. If you want to try and refute thermodynamics by cherry picking diseases that affect digestion then we can do that, but ultimately calories are a unit of energy that is used to measure energy input and output. Just because it gets complex doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Calories are a useful proxy and overeating on any macro combination will make someone fat eventually

              Anyone denying energy balance should be ignored even if they post body (they wont)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Break down all of the dieting to a math equation because biochemistry too hard!
                What do you get? Starvation, health complications, and the impending fear that your work will be reversed if you ever quit!
                Whereas if you just stopped putting garbage in, you would start feeling better and naturally burn the weight off, sans-counting or limiting.

                I'm not denying any laws of thermodynamics, you just don't understand how the body works at all and spout bro science while telling people to harm themselves with this CICO fad diet.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Losing fat is incredibly simple but not fun anon.

                I eat 2lbs of steak a day to maintain my weight, 2.5 when bulking and 1.5 when aggressively cutting and I eat nothing else, apart from one carb up meal every weekend.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not eat until you're full?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because I'm not a fat retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are a fat retard, though.
                You're starving yourself despite not needing to because you're too stupid and fat to know anything else. If you eat what you want, you'll get fatter!
                Pathetic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, I'm practically obese, anon

                Now its your turn to show me the incredible results of hours spent listening to Jason Fung and Bary Kay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you are fat, after all. Proof is in the pudding, or cakes, or whatever you're shoving down your throat to get so bloated.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Schizoposter won't post body when called out

                How surprising.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oops, you mentioned hormones. That's not CICO.
              A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Calories in, calories out doesn't account for undigested calories.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit you are an idiot. Are you implying that calories are a physical object?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm pointing out that a calorie isn't a calorie if you don't digest it, which is more than just "calories in, calories out" that your retarded calorie counting only accounts for. If your bread-and-pasta-eating moron of a mother didn't overindulge in antinutrients because of this scheme, you wouldn't have type 1 diabetes and you would likewise be completely unaware of any processes regarding metabolism at all!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh okay you are a turbo retard then. Firstly, type 1 diabetes has nothing to do with how much sugar I ate. It’s an auto immune disease. I’ve been diabetic since I was 13. Second is that you are completely misinformed on what CICO means. Of course it refers to digesting calories. No one thinks that injecting raw sugar into your forearm or giving yourself a butter suppository would follow the CICO model. Where are you getting these ideas from? A calorie is a unit of energy like a meter is a unit of distance. You can’t take in more energy than you put out without the necessary physical storage of that energy that by its basic physical properties will increase or decrease in volume in coordination with the increase or decrease of energy availability. This can be any material in the body, but excess energy is converted into fat.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jesus Christ, get some glasses, take some classes, do something about your reading comprehension, fatty.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ha okay dipshit. I’ve lost about 50 pounds as of this month and I’ve worked in healthcare for over a decade. I get that calories are complex but if you want to take the time to actually understand what’s going on then I’m happy to go over any details I can about diabetes or digestive processes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No thanks, I'll stick to knowing more than you. I don't want to unlearn reality, like whatever the fuck you're being taught.
                CICO-fags are truly belligerently stupid, they don't even know.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry you’re out of arguments. You obviously don’t know shit. And about the reading comprehension thing, I went back and reread your post. I just assumed that the idea that type 1 diabetes is caused by the mother overeating must have been a typo from you not knowing how to properly insult, because otherwise that would be literally the dumbest shit I have read all week. Do you actually think type 1 is caused by fat moms?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You need to go learn how to read, sincerely.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay let’s break down your superior diction then.

                I'm pointing out that a calorie isn't a calorie if you don't digest it, which is more than just "calories in, calories out" that your retarded calorie counting only accounts for. If your bread-and-pasta-eating moron of a mother didn't overindulge in antinutrients because of this scheme, you wouldn't have type 1 diabetes and you would likewise be completely unaware of any processes regarding metabolism at all!

                > I'm pointing out that a calorie isn't a calorie if you don't digest it, which is more than just "calories in, calories out" that your retarded calorie counting only accounts for.
                Incorrect. While there will absolutely be variation in the efficiency of calorie digestion, the volume of calories that the body actually takes in must be lower than the volume that it puts out. Counting calories prior to digestion is a tool to estimate the body’s actual caloric processes throughout the day.
                > If your bread-and-pasta-eating moron of a mother didn't overindulge in antinutrients because of this scheme, you wouldn't have type 1 diabetes and you would likewise be completely unaware of any processes regarding metabolism at all!
                My favorite sentence of the week. Besides your shit ass grammar and the duly noted dangers of antinutrients this is laughably retarded. I am guessing that this is based on some conception of epi genetics, which is a great start, but not how diabetes works in either case. Type 1 is a rare hereditary disease that has nothing to do with the parents or grandparents eating habits. It manifests when 2 recessive genes activate in the offspring and cause the islets of langerhan, or beta cells, in the pancreas to stop functioning. There is more evidence for epi genetic involvement with type 2, but only when manifest in many generations, and even then requires the child to still overload the pancreas themselves. Type 1 is s genetic mutation from the building of DNA at conception.

                Anything else I need to read?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay let’s break down your superior diction then.

                [...]
                > I'm pointing out that a calorie isn't a calorie if you don't digest it, which is more than just "calories in, calories out" that your retarded calorie counting only accounts for.
                Incorrect. While there will absolutely be variation in the efficiency of calorie digestion, the volume of calories that the body actually takes in must be lower than the volume that it puts out. Counting calories prior to digestion is a tool to estimate the body’s actual caloric processes throughout the day.
                > If your bread-and-pasta-eating moron of a mother didn't overindulge in antinutrients because of this scheme, you wouldn't have type 1 diabetes and you would likewise be completely unaware of any processes regarding metabolism at all!
                My favorite sentence of the week. Besides your shit ass grammar and the duly noted dangers of antinutrients this is laughably retarded. I am guessing that this is based on some conception of epi genetics, which is a great start, but not how diabetes works in either case. Type 1 is a rare hereditary disease that has nothing to do with the parents or grandparents eating habits. It manifests when 2 recessive genes activate in the offspring and cause the islets of langerhan, or beta cells, in the pancreas to stop functioning. There is more evidence for epi genetic involvement with type 2, but only when manifest in many generations, and even then requires the child to still overload the pancreas themselves. Type 1 is s genetic mutation from the building of DNA at conception.

                Anything else I need to read?

                Also a calorie is a calorie even if you don’t digest it. The calorie is a unit of heat that models energy within organic substances. If you don’t digest it then that means that the calorie is still within the food that was not digested rather than the body.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao, gay bro-science "a calorie is a calorie".
          >just eat 800 calories of soi, bro! It worked for me!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post your stats then bitch tits. I started at 245. Calories in. Calories out. Consistent exercise.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do compound cardio while doing upper body muscle building excersises like bench presses and curls.
    Get most of your calories from protein and cut down on sugar. It's that easy.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't listen to the internet, experiment yourself.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried eating less?

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're right, fat people have a perception problem.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's really not that hard

    t. followed IST's advice and lost 100lbs a few years back

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eat less calories than you burn off
    doesn’t seem to be contradictory, lazy fatty

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lean meat and broccoli. That’s it. Protein shakes. I also like to add redcon MRE for breakfast to make things simple and get some carbs before workout. 1000-1200cal and 200g of protein. Shit is easy. Dnp and tren to speed it up. I’d rather die than be keep being fat so if I die so be it. Down 50lbs in 3 months

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's easy if you're not retarded and do some research. Like a few weeks of random googling on and off and you've got 90% of what you need. If you personally want good guidelines go to the ACSM's position papers and read the nutrition shit. Calories in < calories out, eat healthy food, eat adequate protein. That's it.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >wildly varying and contradictory advice
    eat less food you stupid retard

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has OP replied once? Any diet plans? What is your exercise routine? Can you commit to eating less calories than you burn? I need to know, OP.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't eat in front of a screen, drink a decent amount of water a few minutes before you start eating, and eat very slow, really taste the food. That's what I'm doing right now.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bro just have a calorie deficit

    HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY, PASS ME ANOTHER SLICE OF CHEESECAKE

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The First Law of thermodynamics is a formulation of the law of conservation of energy, adapted for thermodynamic processes. A simple formulation is: "the total energy in a system remains constant, although it may be converted from one form to another." Another common phrasing is that "energy can neither be created nor destroyed" (in a "closed system"). While there are many subtleties and implications, which may be better captured in more complex formulations, this is the essential principle of the First Law.

    now watch some ketolard sperg out

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Calories in
    Calories out

    Run more than you eat.
    Simple as.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    listen mate, the real truth is to trial and error this shit. When you look at a study, there's a trendline sure, but you have to remember there are dots on opposite sides of that trendline that represent a human. You're an individual human, and your dot varies. The only thing training videos should do is give you IDEAS on how to train and what to change. Never trust anything they say, just consider what they say - and if it doesn't work, stop doing it.

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