How to cure a herniated disk?

Give me the info the doctors wanna charge me for

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get surgery and that wont cure it 100%
    Daily stretching helps

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Get surgery
      often worse risks vs benefits compared to *effective* conservative approaches

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >just cut yourself bro
      >just be a pillhead bro

      No thanks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS RETARD. DONT STRETCH

      https://i.imgur.com/OyMfR3H.jpg

      Give me the info the doctors wanna charge me for

      I've had this for 4 months, and it's finally feeling good, no pain. Avoid, squats, deadlifts, any movement with heavy lowerback invovlement.

      Do: light rdl's (high volume low weight), do mcgill big 3 EVERYDAY multiple times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_e4I-brfqs, WALK everyday, hangoff a bar or do lat pulldowns (ONLY IF YOU DON'T FEEL PAIN).

      avoid anything that gives you pain, trust me i reagrevated this 3 or 4 times trying to squat or deadlift. don't, I couldve fixed this in a month or 2. Do rdl's to strengthen the area

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the surgery can fuck you ,like it did to ronnie coleman. try to avoid it if possible

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My wife got a cortisone shot near the disk and it pushed the disk back into place. She's been good ever since and that was probably 7 years ago or so. It was super out of place as well. Don't remember the specifics but something like 5mm

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlifters be like

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. Had this for 3 months before the pain became unbearable. Went to the doc. Got scanned. He said herniated disk on bottom spine causing sciatica down my leg. HE ordered physical therapy and painkillers. I work physical and train MMA/BJJ.

    Please tell me I won't be fucked for life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bottom of the spine, damn.

      Anywhere in the low back area is basically permanent. No treatments/surgeries are going to offer anything more than a temporary patch that will eventually need another fix.

      Most herniated disk success stories are mid and upper back. There is a reason this type of herniated disk (which is super common) is an automatic boot from the American military -> it costs too much to treat them on a regular basis.

      t. Herniated disc for 5 years, surgery, pt, steroid injections. All they do is make the pain livable temporarily until I need another treatment/surgery. A low herniated disc will always find a way to get worse.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not even 22 bro

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          don't listen to that fag I had the exact same thing, and I feel no pain bending over. Took 4 months after I reaggregated it multiple times I'm 23. Do what I said here

          DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS RETARD. DONT STRETCH
          [...]
          I've had this for 4 months, and it's finally feeling good, no pain. Avoid, squats, deadlifts, any movement with heavy lowerback invovlement.

          Do: light rdl's (high volume low weight), do mcgill big 3 EVERYDAY multiple times https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_e4I-brfqs, WALK everyday, hangoff a bar or do lat pulldowns (ONLY IF YOU DON'T FEEL PAIN).

          avoid anything that gives you pain, trust me i reagrevated this 3 or 4 times trying to squat or deadlift. don't, I couldve fixed this in a month or 2. Do rdl's to strengthen the area

          rdl's, mcgill big 3, lat pulldowns/pullups (ONLY IF YOU FEEL NO PAIN FOR THIS).

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you able to squar or deadlift now that you've recovered?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          OP I had an L5 S1 herniation that crushed my sciatic nerve when I was 21 and I am 28 now and it's like it never happened. I Squat and deadlift over 300 pounds regularly and run half marathons.
          My injury was extremely serious.
          Within about 4 hours of it happening (I neglected core strengthening work and felt a weird sensation in my back while sprinting on a treadmill), to even get up off the couch and shuffle around was excruciating, I was in tears laying on the floor because I thought I was going to be fucked up for life due to how much pain I was in. I could not do almost anything for myself for over a month. My friends/roommates had to drive me to class even though we all normally walked (God bless them) and help me out with almost everything because I was in so much pain, even on Vicodin.
          I am perfectly fine now at 28.
          Do not panic. You are young, your body can heal. Trust in yourself and do everything the physical therapists tell you to do and you will be back to normal in a few months.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm more or less the same. What this guy said is spot on.

        l5 s1 here. Happened when i was 22 and I'm 31n ow.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Inversion therapy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bjj purple belt with herniated disc at L5-S1 and the herniation is compressing the root nerve which is annoying as fuck.

      Can't play butterfly guard. Can't play half guard on my good side. Can't have a proper wrestling stance. I can't fucking grapple. Going from 4.5 years of training almost every day with some gaps to now I can just lift in the gym and do some striking. It fucking kills me.

      I'm getting the discectomy early next year. They cut out that herniated piece of disc and then it's not pressing on the nerve anymore. Then you have to bulletproof your back so you don't reherniate the disc you got left.

      You can't train grappling unless you strength train. It's just that simple and life's not fair. Young guys can get away with only training bjj cuz they are young and durable. I could train hard as fuck when I was 26. Now I'm 30 and I'm like a little baby please don't stack pass me sir.

      So yeah. Get in the gym and start pushing the sled. Pull the sled. Do back extensions. Reverse back extensions. Reverse deadlifts. Jefferson curl. Good mornings. Pigeon stretches. Kettle bell core exercises. Good luck BJJ anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're under 25 you have about an 80% chance of recovery if you take it easy and stretch daily and maintain proper posture. 20% chance you're fucked for life. If you're over 25 the chance you're fucked for life rises to like 40%.

      There's no such thing as a good spine doctor. They apply treatments completely at random until something either works or cripples you.

      That's how the chiropractic industry became powerful: people get no help from real doctors so they turn to shysters who rape them of their money forever.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had this happen in 2013, I was fine after one year.
      The doctor said just keep moving and take pain killers.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mine wasn't very serious. Maybe just the starting stages or something. But I couldn't pick things of the floor without backpain.
    I literally just hanged... Just did whatever decompressed the spine. Used dip bars or pullup bars and let it hang and decompress. Did it a lot. And after lifts. (Also rethought my form and technique)
    The pain relief is instant but the important thing is that the decompression gives the thing space to heal and the inflation to subside.
    Idk, my case wasnt the worst but this has completely helped me. I have no injury in my back now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf

  6. 2 months ago
    Home Chef Bro

    Getting zero grav shoes so you can hang upside down on a pull up bar for 10 minutes every night will help. Don't know if it'll cure it though

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >herniated disc
    Had this years ago. Basically had to rest the area for around 8 months with regular anti-inflammatories.
    You can do a modified weight routine that does not put pressure on your lower back. Do plenty of walking.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Walk a lot, be active
    McKenzie exercises
    Find lower body stuff that doesn't hurt
    Keep active foot position during squats/deadlifts
    McGill big 3

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Squats gone
    Deadlifts gone
    Bent over barbell rows gone
    Back hyperextensions, you better believe their gone

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so scared of this shit man. like can it happen to you with deadlifts if you are careful about form and progression ?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm switching to trap bar deadlifts for this very reason. As much as I like doing deadlifts I just do not feel they're worth the risk of getting a herniated disc.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >trap bar deadlifts
        panty boy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it happened to me when I was warming up on squats out of nowhere, using 135. Which was nothing for me at the time. I couldnt walk for days, but after that it was mostly just mild pain.

      Its been 6 months and I still wake up stiff and have mild sciatica

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ??????

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you are careful about form and progression ?
      No.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Happened to me attempting to deadlift 3.5plaets for a 1RM like 7 years ago when I was still new to strength training and compound lifts. In the exact spot on your picture.

      I deadlift 5 plates now with no pain during the lift itself, but my lower back is still stiff every single day. Constant mild, nagging pain. I have to sit down and lean forward every hour or so for a few minutes to rest the spine.

      Never went to the doctor, figured there's nothing they can really do.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snapped my lower back up, ended up in hospital twice, no help from doctors, only gave me some painkillers once.
    Had back problems for years, tried everything nothing helped, wasnt able to even squat a empty bar then i found tom kurz and his flexibility exercises, started to do face to wall squats, ab exercises, simple ones at first then harder ones, did hyper extensions, started adding weight, started doing romanian deadlifts, goblet squats, progressed to regular back squats, conventional deadlifts, weights started to increase, was able to squat more weight, started doing isometric stretches, now im able to squat and deadlift painfree, im more flexible than ever before...
    That shit made me realise, strengthen all supportive muscles around the spine, get rid off unbalances in mucles and joints, make your hips flexible so that they move instead off your back allowing the spine to remain neutral while moving is key to a healthy back.
    Working out and getting stronger made my back painfree, all the doctors advice did nothing.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That shit made me realise, strengthen all supportive muscles around the spine, get rid off unbalances in mucles and joints, make your hips flexible so that they move instead off your back allowing the spine to remain neutral while moving is key to a healthy back. Working out and getting stronger made my back painfree, all the doctors advice did nothing.

      ^^^+1000000000000
      You nailed it right here, this is what people don't realize. Most are unwilling to do the necessary exercises and never fix the problem.
      I had sciatica from working as a driver for too long. Sitting for so many hours is the source of lower back pain. 7 years later I am a beast with incredibly stable leg, core and back muscles and I have no pain whatsoever.
      My solution was to go to yoga and pilates classes and strengthen the lower body. I know these classes are full of females, but anon it worked and now I have a healthy spine. I've strengthened my legs, core and glutes so much that it provides fantastic support for the spine. People are unwilling to do this. You must stabilize the pelvis and allow the spine to curl and uncurl as one unit. You do this by activating from the ground up, the spinal extension feels amazing once you become good at it. You gotta take the yoga pill. I don't even lift heavy anymore. Yoga seems to take care of everything. Correct muscle mechanics, balance and spinal alignment are paramount.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fun Fact: most people have bulges and herniations by 30+, they just don't it yet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how? most people dont even lift weights

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most people eat absolute shit.

        Speaking of which, glycine becomes an essential amino acid as we get older and produce less. Take a few grams with your sleep stack. It will sweeten your bro powders and help you sleep as well.

        And listen to your body. Don't do heavy lifts when your CNS isn't primed for it.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's psychological. Read Sarno.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he fell for the squat/DL meme

    Rippetoe would be proud.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Boil a bag of sour patch kids and drink it - it's basically a super duper healthy tea (got this recipe from a secret blog recommended by my doctor)

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I swear I've seen this thread before with the first few posts being exactly the same

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've experienced shit like this too on other boards. Dead internet theory is probably real.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you have it is probably a sign to stop scrooooooolling.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stuart mcgill from university of waterloo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrmMLHybk1o is an expertise on back injuries, do his mcgill big 3's everyday multiple times, sleep on the floor, you'll be fine.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I work out lower body with FAI? This isnt just some bs impingement injury , its a bone on bone anatomical issue eroding my cartilage, I cant flex my hip to 90 degrees without pain and shortening my time until surgery is necessary.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Surgery, wife had one and the results are night and day. Don't wait until you can no longer tolerate the pain. Do it.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Spinal Decompression

    Take the Bob and Brad Pill

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I had this after a horse riding accident

    Started to sleep on the floor of by room

    Fixed it.

    Well... I dont feel any pain all day, only at night couple hour before bed.

    It is interesting. You lay when tired, sleep.
    Wake up early healed and dont stay long on bed because its on the fucking hard ground

    Win win

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Read: Back Mechanic: The step-by-step McGill Method to fix back pain

    though do something along the lines of learning how to brace properly, and training exercises or movements that don't cause flare-ups or cause pain. Important that you still train though.

    >like can it happen to you with deadlifts if you are careful about form and progression ?
    No, also injury prevention, I would guess, is 80% progression and programming and 20% form, by progression and programming. It doesn't just mean don't do weights you can't handle and don't over train, but it also means dieting and sleeping properly so your body can recover from the fatigue of your workouts properly, and deloading every once in a while to let systemic fatigue dissipate. Another thing, your body has a much higher capacity to dissipate fatigue when you're bulking rather than cutting.

    You can have perfect form and still have injuries if you over train and you don't manage fatigue properly. this is why the injury rate for walking is not 0 (rather its close to the injury rate of working out, not bothered to spoon feed you sources it isn't hard to google).

    Alternatively, if you manage fatigue properly, really you can get away with dumb shit and not get injured, though that would be dumb. Though this does not mean you should neglect form, not just for injury prevention but so the exercises are most effective.

    Mike Isreatel has very comprehensive videos on them, just google, Renaissance periodization fatigue management. Watch them on 1.5 - 2x speed becasue they're quite long.
    For a beginner (if you are) you won't have problems with fatigue unless you don something retarded like Starting Strength at baseline, or a calorie deficit or something, or you reaally don't sleep or eat properly.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      is meant for

      https://i.imgur.com/Pnb7LgV.png

      I'm so scared of this shit man. like can it happen to you with deadlifts if you are careful about form and progression ?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go to a sports physical therapist.
    You need to make core strengthening exercises a habit. Planks for sure, oblique twists with the cable machine at the gym, very light resistance.
    Also hip stretching exercises.
    t. L5-S1 herniation a few years ago, hit 1/2/3/4 recently deadlifting and squatting twice a week.
    Some doctors might tell you you’ll never fully heal. It’s a lie. GP doctors don’t really know anything about these kinds of injuries anyway, they can only really assess that you’re hurt and give you pain meds.
    A Sports PT will help you heal and won’t tell you need surgery or can’t do something because their job is to get you back on your feet. My experiences with them have all been great. It should be covered by insurance

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I herniated two discs in my neck
    >Suffered for five years with arm weakness and nerve pain
    >Couldn’t lift, couldn’t use right arm much
    >Had disc replacement surgery three months ago where they cut my throat, removed the herniated disc, and put in a prosthetic
    >Recovery sucks
    >Lost 15 pounds
    >After a few weeks, feeling strong again
    >Three months later, significantly better
    >Back to lifting
    >Back to Jiu Jitsu
    >Enjoying being able to do things I haven’t been able to do for years

    >Just waiting for the day when it all comes crashing down again

    I get random spasms in my right ankle that I am guessing is a lower back disc issue based on my familiarity with the symptoms. Worried my time is almost up. Drugs and PT never worked for me and after putting off surgery for years, it actually worked for me. Not sure if I’d do another surgery though. Enjoy being young and invincible, boys. It can end with no notice.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    McGill big 3.
    That will be 30,000$ anon.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Was in your position before anon. Fucked my lumbar by falling off s mountain when I was 17 and then fucked it up again when I was being a dumbass and squatting improperly 2 years ago. The sciatica was so bad that I couldn't sleep for more than two hours a night. I got some cortisone shots out of desperation but they did not seem to help much. Same thing with a gabapentin and opioid prescription — temporary but shortlived relief that dissipated after three days.

    Here's what I think did help:
    1. Took s break from lower body and back exercises for 6 months. It sucked, but it was necessary. Ended up hurting myself by trying to squat again too early.

    2. If the pain is bad enough to keep you up, take some ibuprofen PM to force yourself to sleep and get some minor relief from the inflammation. This was the game changer for me bc sleep helped me recover a ton and not getting any crested this vicious cycle.

    3. When you finish up recovery, make sure your form is golden on DLs, squats, etc. Learning to engage my abdominals really made a big difference. Already getting back to squat PRs and surpassed my prior DL PR today.

    Slipped discs fucking suck but they're not the end. If it's so bad that it is jammed in your nerve it'll eventually either crawl back in it's place in the column or disintegrate and be replaced by scar tissue.

    Don't give up on lifting. Take a break as needed but don't let this experience prevent you from training in the future. It would be retarded to let your body grow weak just bc of an injury.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP here. Watched a bunch of YT vidoes on herniated discs. It seems tgat the general consensus is that it will heal on it's own within 8 weeks in 90%+ of cases. I will abstain from using the affected area for 3 months, and most likely implement McKenzie exercises and core workouts. I'm 22 and buff I probably hurt myself because of daily physical labor and sparring mutants at MMA/BJJ. Thanks to everybody, that was a scare.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Artificial Disc Replacement Surgery
    >100% of the time it works 100% of the time

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pirate this and spend like 5 minutes reading it before doing anything expensive

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BPC-157 and IGF-lr3.

    BPC-157 at 500mcgs a day. Injection. Do not go oral if you want real results. Oral will work, but you'll have to go longer and at a higher dose.

    IGF-lr3 at 40mcgs every other day. Injection is the only administration route.

    Do these two things for 3 weeks. No more. No less. And you will be anatomically healed. Anatomically. There will be residual effects but that hernia will pop back into place and the collagen cap should be regenerated.

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