How to git gud at wrestling, specifically at takedowns?

How to git gud at wrestling, specifically at takedowns? I'm a bjj blue belt (lmao) but I'm not confident on takedowns specially if they are heavier than me. I think I understand the techniques but I'm not applying them right and I think it is something with me being a tall lanky guy

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Do judo instead.
    Bjj does not require take downs. It's as stupid as tkd not requiring punches.
    Blue belt is as good as you need.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I no longer train bjj, I train mma and sometimes nogi grappling, I like takedowns

      You need to learn endurance and being a squirrelly frick to beat someone bigger than you

      Fair enough, what about improving takedowns on a rival of my same weight?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Fair enough, what about improving takedowns on a rival of my same weight?
        Never fought someone my own size, try cloning yourself and spar with yourself

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >what are weight classes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      aikido dunks on all these western wannabe tough guy techniques. oh you are barreling towards me looking for a takedown? i will simply use your own force against you, incapacitating you.

      https://i.imgur.com/SsoFEQx.jpeg

      Training actual aggression is hard because the vast majority of McDojos have a total focus on preventing injury to the even the weakest participants.
      Find/make something human shaped and recondition your brain to be able to sack it remorselessly and without hesitation.

      I love how the martial arts threads bring out peak LARP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      judo has been debunked

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        is this legit, or are you meming? dunno if I should waste time watching it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I have a judo blue belt (competed), I trained in mma, bjj and kickboxing and this video is absolutely correct.
          He actually leaves out one flaw which is that the starting position in a judo match is fighting for grip so you get used to grabbing at your opponent's clothes and sleeves. This means that if you get rocked and revert to training while in a fog, you will instinctively try to grap the opponent's clothes, thus leaving your face fully exposed. You can see this happen to Benoit Saint Denis in some of his fights.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      By drilling takedowns, if you want an exercise or something you can simulate them on a heavybag by getting in the position and standing up while holding the bag but you still need to drill the technique.
      Squats and pull ups also train the strength you need.

      Also this.
      A benefit judo has over wrestling is that in wrestling you control the leg but by pulling them so close to you 90% of time you will end in your opponent guard and then you have to do something about that.
      With judo throws you are controlling the arms so you will literally always end in side control and will skip the guard every time.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You need to learn endurance and being a squirrelly frick to beat someone bigger than you

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there will always be someone bigger and stronger than you, the real trick to git gud is knowing how to manipulate your opponents weight to get proper set ups, e.g. snapping the neck down so that you can push when they come back up and get a leg reap

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aikido dunks on all these western wannabe tough guy techniques. oh you are barreling towards me looking for a takedown? i will simply use your own force against you, incapacitating you.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Training actual aggression is hard because the vast majority of McDojos have a total focus on preventing injury to the even the weakest participants.
    Find/make something human shaped and recondition your brain to be able to sack it remorselessly and without hesitation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      By drilling takedowns, if you want an exercise or something you can simulate them on a heavybag by getting in the position and standing up while holding the bag but you still need to drill the technique.
      Squats and pull ups also train the strength you need.

      Also this.
      A benefit judo has over wrestling is that in wrestling you control the leg but by pulling them so close to you 90% of time you will end in your opponent guard and then you have to do something about that.
      With judo throws you are controlling the arms so you will literally always end in side control and will skip the guard every time.

      I might do this, I though on getting a dummy/uke but I think I will get the bag I have and make it heavier

      >drill
      >drill
      >drill

      >roll
      >roll
      >roll

      Not much else. One drill that wrestlers do is down down up against a wall. That forces you to learn to explode upward.

      >down down up against the wall
      I don't know what that mean

      Imagine you are, as usual, going down on a guy.
      Before your mouth hits his penis, try to look up in his eyes. Keep moving forward.
      Now, you are touching his groin with your face - extend your arms past him qnd immediately try to apread his cheeks.
      Keep moving forward

      Voila. You have accomplished a successful bj j takedown.

      kek

      Have you tried ankle picks?my double leg has always been crappy, but I've recently really started to like ankle picking

      If they post hard with their weight, you can then pretty easily transition to a single leg

      >Purple belt

      I'll try them, a partner used them against me last Saturday quite effectively

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >down
        When you shoot in, your lead knee should be breaking the pane between your opponents legs.

        >down
        Your rear knee comes down and forward so that you are squared up on your op.

        >up
        You explode up with both legs

        A common error is to keep pushing forward from your knees instead of exploding upward. Doing down down up against a wall prevents you from doing that and trains you to explode up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I see, I will try it

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine you are, as usual, going down on a guy.
    Before your mouth hits his penis, try to look up in his eyes. Keep moving forward.
    Now, you are touching his groin with your face - extend your arms past him qnd immediately try to apread his cheeks.
    Keep moving forward

    Voila. You have accomplished a successful bj j takedown.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is both hilarious and accurate AF. Don't forget the oilcheck once you've grounded him OP.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I could train a vlass of gay fighters whod dominate ufc like nothing.
        Khabib nurmagomedow? More like Khabib I-am-glad-we-are-not-naked-ov

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >drill
    >drill
    >drill

    >roll
    >roll
    >roll

    Not much else. One drill that wrestlers do is down down up against a wall. That forces you to learn to explode upward.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If this was a Family feud question lmao

      >One drill that [...........] do is down down up against a wall. That forces you to learn to explode upward.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Found the black man

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried ankle picks?my double leg has always been crappy, but I've recently really started to like ankle picking

    If they post hard with their weight, you can then pretty easily transition to a single leg

    >Purple belt

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically watch wrestling and pay attention to how their takedowns are done, and try to implement it in your training. Get wrestling focused coaching from credentialed teachers. The subtleties of it are endless.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you are smaller and have the agility, ride your oponnent piggy back like a rabid monkey.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Used to love watching old school tkd tutorials in hs. We would shadow wrestle, mimicking the movement. We didn't have a wrestling dummy, so we did live wrestling most the time, which is where I would drill the move a ton. Strong/explosive legs and good grip are a huge help in tkd. Most fun tkd to drill on big guys are ankle picks or a slide-by. Your picrel is a bad takedown. Forr bjj just practice highcrotch and branch off from whatever you feel. Have fun

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i'm BJJ purple and my most successful takedowns are footsweeps and head-and-arm throw. i also like tomoe nage but i don't think it's as applicable in MMA.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just practice more

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