I am tired of all the nonsense. Just give it to me straight IST. I don't care about its bulking properties here obviously nobody would bulk eating this. All I want to know is if oatmeal is good for you. Most info I see about it indicates it is good but I want to get a IST approved analysis here.
Oatmeal is something I never even used to care for until suddenly I ate it and learned that I love it. Its a lot better than cereal.
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It's just food, food is neither good nor bad you orthorexic fricking aspie.
This is actually what 50iq Normies think
>yeah just one more happy meal haha it's just foo - ACK
Imagine getting killed by a 2$ burger
Fr fr no cap. Don't listen to the food is food homosexual OP on god no cap bussin
>It's just food, food is neither good nor ba-ACK!
if youre american oats are full of glyphosphate
>nutritional value doesnt exist
>all foods have the same amount of positives and negatives
>no foods are toxic
>all these posters btfo, literally choking on mcdick and dying
fpbp. people that die to a mcdouble didn't deserve to live to begin with
dubs of truth. if you >-ACK! after ANY food its because you dont understand how food works
oh my GOD just look at its nutritional facts, you ever-loving homosexual
what it has on paper doesn't mean it's all bioavailable to you as you consume it
trust me mate the carbs are definitely bioavailable
I've got something bioavailable to you *spreads cheeks*
Deez nuts are bioavailable to you
Yeah I'm sure those "natural flavors" are totally natural..
If youre buying oats with that crap in it you're doing it wrong anyway
Stop worrying about what's good for you or not. Life is not a competition to see who lives the longest. I think oats are delicious so I'll keep eating them and they make me feel good. Ultra processed stuff make me feel like shit so I avoid them. There, problem solved
Absolutely better than cereal, but still not that great for you.
You won't die or anything, it's just that you as a human won't be able to receive all the nutrients from it, you'll just shit out most of it.
Eat it here and there if you enjoy it, I wouldn't count on it much from a nutritional perspective
>it's just that you as a human won't be able to receive all the nutrients from it, you'll just shit out most of it.
this is completely wrong.
OP, Oatmeal is good for you. t. person with a relevant degree.
le Epik science man is swinging his degree around, lmao get fricked nerd everyone knows nutrition as a field is a joke since the 50s
you stay full because your body is satiated, you FEEL full not because your stomach is LITERALLY FULL, its from the release of leptin which is triggered to release by protein and fat primarily
You sound like a bullshit generator AI.
just look up leptin/ghrelin and the dietary triggers involving it, its all protein and fat for leptin and ghrelin for carbs
its plain as day
I honestly can’t tell if your just trolling or if you are moronic. Have you ever just had a glass of milk when your hungry, it literally does nothing unless you have it with other food.
>Have you ever just had a glass of milk when your hungry, it literally does nothing unless you have it with other food.
what the frick? milk is one of the most filling things you can ingest
So you are just moronic. 300 calories of milk and oats for breakfast will keep me full until noon, while 300 calories of just milk will pass through me in less than 2 hours.
>but what about this totally different concept than what was being talked about
ok? have fun with that
Kek, you literally said the milk alone would be more filling, I just pointed out how moronic you
I said milk alone is filling. I didn't make a comparative statement. You did, bringing up caloric comparisons to other food.
You are stupid, and don't understand how to actually have an intellectual exchange in a way that gives you new information
> Drink the milk by itself, you'll stay fuller, longer
Your exact words
milk, calorie for calorie, literally is 10x more satiating than goyslop oatmeal
So you are doubling down now. I’ll refer you to my previous post
milk when combined with oats is more filling, having both makes for the best result.
its more calories by a factor of 3-4x, when equated for calories milk is FAR more satiating, what is difficult about this concept for you?
What? 150 calories of oats and 150 calories of milk is more satiating that 300 calories of milk. I think you are having an aneurysm you may want to goto the hospital.
wrong, pure carbs raise ghrelin and stimulate hunger more than fat/real protein containing sources
Go ahead and try it yourself. I know this from personal experience. You can spout all the jargon you want, and act like you understand the signaling or biochemistry but you cannot make up for simple fact that I have done both of the things and I know which one makes me more full and for longer.
Oatmeal is good for you. Good balance of fiber, carbs, and protein. People frick up by thinking it always has to be prepared to be sweat. Steel cut oats and wheat berries go fine with savory meals. Add spices, cumin, pepper, maybe some eggs and cheese.
It has stanols and fibers that are good for heart health too. I either make it savory for lunch if with casein powder and fruit.
You don't get all the nutrients from any food. I'm not really sure what this is supposed to mean. I've eaten a ton of oats on bulks and bulked fine, clearly I'm getting the calories.
why do amerifats call porridge oatmeal
Because it's an oatmeal porridge, obviously
Because we’re not poorgays
i have oatmeal made with coconut water and a banana every single day for breakfast
>coconut water and a banana
homosexual euphemism?
yeah, it means he got the monkey pox
Oats leave me starving after like 2 hours
Keeps full for hours, costs nothing, full of minerals and vitamins, high in fiber, lowers cholesterol, medium in protein, high in carbs, zero fat, what's not to like.
>Keeps full for hours
Bloated for hours because humans cant digest fiber
>costs nothing
True
>full of minerals and vitamins
Such as
>high in fiber
The indigestible part of the plant
>lowers cholesterol
Not a good rhing
>medium in protein
Good
>high in carbs
Good
> zero fat
Not great
Zero fat is good though. You should be getting more than enough fats from your servings of meat
>
it doesnt have zero fat wtf
and if you get bloated by that ur intestinal flora must be fricked up
No it doesn't, humans cannot digest fiber so it makes you bloated
which is only true if you have the wrong bacteria down there
*you* cannot digest plant matter, and the off gassing from rot bacteria colonizing your body like a parasite doesnt constitute nutrition
sure it does
bacteria eat/split the fiber so you get to your iron etc, also getting your carbs slowly (thats why its filling)
also its good for your intestinal muscle to have some fiber left in the end
gut flora, ie bacteria that produce noxious gases from indigestible plant residue rotting in your colon
>Uh I'm so BLOATED
fiber being indigestible is what makes it great for your digestive system,
>fiber good for you
If you like bowel disease, sure.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786/#!po=32.8571
>shit small sample size poorly controlled study
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4677277/
Here is a meta-analysis including multiple intervention studies showing the benefits of fiber for constipation
Yes it’s insanely overpowered in terms of micronutrient minerals, fibers to make you shit healthy, and decent carb complexity which means your brain has good glucose levels to concentrate for many hours
Just don’t add sugar to it manually. At max add some banana or fruit/berries for the extra vitamin gains.
why not sugar? If i add just about 1 gram of sugar, wouldnt that be okay?
i meant less than 1 gram, im pinching it
I sweeten it up with a small splash of 100% apple juice.
Fiber makes bowel issues worse, most healthy people barely eat any fiber.
Tell that to the Frenchies who eat sweets and drink wine and still stay fit. homosexuals yes, but fit homosexuals.
You got to do what you got to do to make it my dude. Fish is very expensive.
>who eat sweets and drink wine
zero fiber dumb ass, even french bread is essentially devoid of fiber
fiber is the INDIGESTIBLE (nutritionally worthless) plant residue from poor quality food sources
>You got to do what you got to do to make it my dude. Fish is very expensive
eat a cheaper and far superior fat/protein source (real meat instead of arsenic loaded fish with rancid fat)
The fish sold here are from a good source though, probably the cleanest source for good fish, still would avoid making it a daily habit though. Chicken wings/drumsticks are the next best source for protein per cost.
protein isnt the macro you need to worry about, its fat (hormone support is key for building muscle)
stop cooming and repent of sin
i get iron from actual food (meat), carbs are stored so getting them "le slowly epic reddit style' is gay, and its terrible for your colon to be forced to overwork constantly (leads to constipation and disease)
Eat kidney and liver meats for best supply of nutrients, don't over do it though apply butter when cooking for best gains.
prostitute's name?
Add sugar homosexual, you ketolards need to stop advocating for lipid dominated metabolism, it's incredibly stressfull and it's why the "doping" drug mildronate is excellent, it blocks carnitine which forces your body to use glucose instead of fat.
does it feel good in your tummy anon?
then its good
If you want to maximize your gains from intense exercise you need to be eating carbs. Carbs are not for "bulking" if you want to gain weight you need to be eating protein and fats.
Please don't listen to the keto dyels
I want Ariane to choke me out.
sure its good, its full of minerals&vitamin&fiber, less processed, , tasty especially with fruits, filling, good to storage and doesnt cost much
one of the first things you would feed a baby
Oats are bad on account of the anti-nutrients they contain, however its not that big of a deal if you really love oatmeal, if you arent symptomatic of deficiency.
I'd rate them 3/10, plus side is they give you carbs, but there are much better sources and most people dont need any more carbs.
>muh anti nutrients
Post body
Good for starving off hunger and having some cheap meal in, throw in some bananas and peanut butter, mix in and eat. If you got fish in a jar type fish add in some as protein source.
>eating peanut butter
>eating canned fish
ngmi
How do you prepare it so it's good?
Here is how I make mine.
Not sure how the 1/4 cup of Oats ended up being 8 in my recipe it should only be 1!
Eating 1/2 cup oats, 1 c whole milk right now. Oatmeal is based.
Drink the milk by itself, you'll stay fuller, longer and feel better later in the day when your blood sugar is stable and not see-sawing
>you'll stay fuller with less contents in your stomach
>you'll stay fuller longer with just liquid in your stomach
>lactose will give you sustained energy all day
Literally wrong about everything. Why even post that?
oats contain phytic acid which block the absorption of nutrients and phytoestrogen. Also come from GMO crops.
It's healthy for your bowl movements .
the opposite is true, fiber damages your colons ability to function long term and leads to disease
>t. Colon cancer by 30
Make your own oats. Store bought lack tons of good fats and vitamins
oatmeal is fine. you’re going to see attacks from two camps:
>paleo homosexual moron SCUM
they’re going to b***h about oatmeal having phytic acid and shit. nonsense. is phytic acid an “antinutrient?” sure, it slows iron and calcium absorption (arguably.) know what oatmeal is a good source of when prepared? calcium and iron. know what phytic acid is? an antioxidant. if you’re literally deficient in a mineral, then be cautious, but if you’re not a paleo gay or a vegan you’re 90% likely to have no deficiency. they’re also going to argue that FIBER of all things is bad. LMFAO. if you’re american you’re probably not eating enough fiber. why do you think metamucil is clinically proven to reduce digestive cancers? because it literally gets americans to baseline. oatmeal is easy calories, easy carbs, and nutritious. if I’m going out to chop wood for hours, if I’m going on a long hunt (tracking longhorn, moose, elk over days) or hike, oatmeal is my breakfast for energy, simple as.
>next camp is ANTI GLYPHOSATE HIPPIES
these gays may be onto something. simply buy organic rolled oats with low glyphosate. done.
fiber (in any amount) is unhealthy
it functions as a colon irritant and can cause disease and constipation
go look up metamucil’s effect on digestive cancers, chiefly colon cancer. if it was inflammatory you’d see higher markers like synthetic laxatives. you’re moronic, dually exemplified by your weird asiatic fever. that or just chinese. eat your fermented eggs, men are talking.
>go look up metamucil’s effect on digestive cancers
go look up the disease diverticulitis, go look up interventional (high quality) studies on fibers effect on constipated patients
your studies show a negligible effect on rare cancers vs the massive effect on diseases and conditions most people will experience eventually eating sawdust (fiber)
https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/defend-yourself-from-diverticulitis
>adequate fiber can protect against diverticulitis
inb4 “harvard”
inb4 “here’s my NCBI study by chinese researchers”
>harvard
they literally recommend you to drink sneed oil, avoid eggs/meat, and eat ze bugs
youve been conned into thinking theyre a valid source when they do the same garbage science (observational) as everyone else
https://www.health.harvard.edu/heart-health/are-eggs-risky-for-heart-health
>30 second search yields article shilling eggs
how does it feel to have fricked chromosomes and think? I imagine a clock with a missing gear
oh youre a vegan shill, makes sense you'd want to mislead people into eating slave food (grains)
ok bud lmao
haha, that’s what I thought.
>go do a chore so I can wait for thread to die before asking for the same chore again tomorrow
im good bro, you do you
>statue stolen from tik tok
>believes grains is slave food.
Look I’m eating bread everyday and 200g oats every night, I also have beef chicken and eggs in my diet and I’m sure I mog you, if I removed any of those carbs my workouts will suffer. Carnicuks are almost as I’ll as vegans. If I had to choose a side I’d be the carnivore road but why not get the best of both worlds? In Christian orthodoxy we fast for a reason, it’s even in the bible although meat is addicting is hard for me to quit
>Christian Orthodox
>thinking abstaining from meats is in the bible
fasting in general sure, but abstaining from meats is dumb and anti-biblical
I'd argue God endorses a highly animal based diet in Genesis with Cain and Abel
Fasting without meat is just church tradition it's not in the bible except for Daniel's fast afaik. I did Orthodox fasts a few years ago. I think it can be a good practice that builds discipline but you still need to get your protein and amino acids unless you want to lose gains so you gotta do it the right way. Maybe whole milk and protein powder while fasting to help keep a good profile. I'd ask your priest about it I'm sure he'd understand. IMO it's about giving up something you like for the discipline I mentioned as well as observance of the saint or holiday, but you still don't want to lose essential nutrients. You need more while working out.
>I'd ask your priest about it I'm sure he'd understand.
I asked him, but even if the priest is against the will of Christ you don't have to obey him. Let's say for example he says:
>It's ok to wear a mask inside the Church because of the new measures of the goverement.
You will simply not obey him because that's not what Christ wants.
Anyway you have to live with the will of God and not with yours, im not here to preach because i don't really fast and sin most days, it's good to have a plan b for the days that it's required for you to fast. I made it 40 days in Christmas and i didn't really lose any gains.
>abstaining from meats is dumb and anti-biblical
Not true lol
>Not true lol
post scripture that backs up your insane beliefs
oh wait you're going to appeal to the opinions of men who didn't speak authoritatively on the subject
Bread was enjoyed by kings and peasants alike. Kings just ate whit bread while peasants ate whole wheat. Don’t be moronic
The peasantry ate FAR more grains than those who had choice in what to eat, but yes the pharaohs also got the degenerative diseases associated with agriculture due to grain consumption
Lol what, bread was part of their daily lives. Kings and peasants easily ate a loaf of bread a day and drank a liter of beer.
Yes, bread was in their diet, but at a lower proportion since it wasnt a high class food
and we know they ate bread because they got degenerative grain diseases, just like modern people who eat grains
You don’t have any clue what your talking about. White bread was high class food and was enjoyed by nobility and seen as a status symbol along with baked goods. The nobles literally ate worse diets than peasants. They had shitty glutinous foods high in simple carbs cause they were rich. The warriors through time have always subsisted off of grains since it was a shelf stable light caloric dense food that could be easily transported. The meme that warriors and nobles ate meat is completely bogus and spouted by historylets
>The nobles literally ate worse diets than peasants
maybe late medieval or early moderns, but since the time of the pharaohs kings enjoyed more meat and animal products than peasantry
Yes kings have always enjoyed more wild big game and chicken(funny enough), but peasants still had a consistent diet of fish and small game. This does change the fact that bread was the backbone of their diet and enjoyed with almost every meal.
bread was not the 'backbone' of kingly diets lmao
meat and dairy was
Lol no
look up any recipe, guaranteed 50% of the calories are from butter, eggs or milk if its a non meat dish
I'm not the anon you were talking to, but
>that article
>not a study
>no details on proposed mechanisms
>says inflammation causes diverticula
>phytochemicals cause massive inflammation
>article even says not to take it as medical advice
You are moronic.
You seriously telling me fiber is bad for you??? Cleans you out. I shit like I've never shit before when I eat fiber.
yeah, cleans you out....of fiber
the only food known to man that doesn't rot in your colon for days/weeks is meat and dairy (and processed carbs but thats another story)
>look up Brand Name Fiber™ goyim! It will help us sell sawdus...I mean help you avoid ass cnacer!
frick off
>I learned this today from the liver king!
literally regurgitating the nonsense of a 4’ eceleb, how embarrassing for you. promptly exit the board, chinkcel
and yet, you have no actual rebuttal, just le epik harvard meme studies that arent able to prove anything since theyre junk tier observational/epidemiological studies
>liver king said it, it must be true!
here’s something, I eat plants and I would literally dominate you in any avenue of strength, speed, or stamina. I guarantee that you as a paleo eater are a frail and weak person who has adopted this specific extreme diet not to “min max” your life but to address some chronic illness (genetic deficiency) or self imposed obesity. now post body or frick off.
The biggest metaanalysis on plant vs animal protein found that if you hold macros and key micros constant, and look only at men who train regularly, muscle mass is statistically identical for full vegans as it is for people who eat meat. Meat eaters had a statistically significant lower amount of body fat, but the effect was miniscule, less than half a percent of body fat difference.
This has been looked at a lot. For example: https://www.health.com/nutrition/vegetarian-protein-animal-protein-build-muscle
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/523682
I haven't noticed a difference. Having cut for sports I do to 145 I bulked back to 180 while on an almost entirely vegan diet. It was the quickest I've put on that much mass, but I think that owes to me having been heavier (while lean) before. I don't think plant diets are better, you have to be very careful to do a full vegan diet like and supplement some things, but I also see little evidence it makes much of a difference at all. Consistency of training, eating clean, hitting your macros, and avoiding injury and layoffs are all more important.
>vegans
lol, lmao even
you cant trick people with 'studies' when anyone with eyes or a brain can observe vegans in the real world and draw the conclusions you fear so much. Also, confirmed you're a vegan shill.
You have to eat a shit load of plants to meet your daily essential amino acid levels. Yes you can do it, but it's why most vegans look like unhealthy freaks. They all talk of how healthy it is but don't eat the amounts required of the specific plants they need. They have to eat like 3-5 different plants just to get what's in a tiny ass steak. If you don't do it right you are also putting strain on your heart. Don't try to talk average people into vegan, you have to pay WAY more attention to everything you eat for zero benefit.
JFL at the anti-oxidant meme, they are literally just toxins that cause oxidation, and thus an anti-oxidizing protective response from the body, just look at the molecular structure of phytic acid, you don't need a PhD in chemistry to know, that shit is oxidizing
plants dont want to be eaten, and they have toxic defense mechanisms against all herbivoric creatures
Grains are not good for you. Sorry.
Try actually reading on the subject. This is an asspull hypothesis. The mechanism of action for the connection to farming is that better organized, more complex societies allow for less fit individuals to reproduce, and so the diet isn't a direct causal factor on brain size, but how agriculture changes fitness odds.
But even here this hypothesis has been shot to shit because descendants of people who were recently hunter gatherers don't have bigger brains and brain size begins dropping off in areas long before agriculture is established.
So what gives? Humans had larger brains before in part because they were larger. Height is just now reaching pre-ice age levels in northern Europe. Average weight for human males fell from 176-186lbs down to 130-150 in many places. Brain size drops around the same time.
This seems to reflect a dramatic drop in calories due to climate change. If agriculture was the main culprit then HGs that survived to the 20th century should have larger brains. They don't.
Places that developed agriculture later should have later declines.
Second, bigger isn't necessarily better. Toddler brains have way more neurons and synapses. You get functionality by pruning tons of these in the same way you have more marble in a block, and chisel away to make a sculpture.
Human weight in fat countries only recently passed archaic human weight, but obviously way more of that is fat. It took vaccines and modern nutrition to get height back to where it was. The ice age dramatically effected human evolution.
However, only after it do we see modern human behaviors and civilization. So instead of crying about our lost Chadom, it may very well be that the culling and harsh conditions of the ice age actually acted as a selection filter for more efficient metabolism and better reasoning capabilities, resulting in a species that could rise up to space travel, etc.
Not that youre wrong but keep in mind some of the "recent hunter gatherers" they mention are joggers so take what they say about that specific part with a grain of salt. IMO they can't be used to study anything about our ancestors because they didn't ever do, invent, or discover anything.
It is definitely good for you. It has a lot of fiber that can help keep your gut health in check.
Just be mindful that you are consuming it as a carb source, not a protein or fat source.
had some today with apple butter, butter, and milk mixed in
It's empty carbs that spike your insulin, making you fat.
Unironically I have been fasting for 16 hours/day every work day for the last 6 months and breaking the fast with a bowl of plain rolled oats soaked in almond milk and topped with thawed wild berries. Do you think it's fricked? My coworker says that if I don't consume enough carbs after a fast my body will just store carbs instead of burning all of them? Is this true?
>my coworker says
ask me why i give a frick
why do you give a frick?
sheeeeeitttttt
>yellow fever schizo still hasn't posted body
Shocking
Oats are fine, not the best grain, but still have benefits. Eat them as you like they are far from the worse thing you could have
Yes its good for you. Its a good source of carb. It also has a lot of nutrients in it.
not a ton of vitamins, think it has some unique antioxidant that's good for your heart, not that satiating imo. Not bad not great, if you're bulking it's good to fill in calories.
>obviously nobody would bulk eating this
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. oatmeal is prime for bulking. And rice. Why are you thinking it's not? Are you a low-carb queen (ie you've never seen abs in your life and don't know how to fuel training)? hmmm?
Anybody anti-oats is going through the dunning kruger effect. Oats are good, all the foods you think are good are good, the ones you think are bad are bad, it’s not that complicated
midwit
Basically this, all the meme dieters have extremely poor understanding of biochemistry and nutrition and cling to poorly done research to cope for their shit diet, only to one day realize they were wrong and that meat, veggies, fruits, whole grains, and dairy are all good for you when taken in balance