I cannot fricking do these at all. 5lb is too easy but 10lb is fricking impossible.

I cannot fricking do these at all. 5lb is too easy but 10lb is fricking impossible. I progress other lifts but this is just fricking IMPOSSIBLE to me. Am I doing something wrong?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are you a real beginner? Because I'm weak as hell and I can do 12lbs. You don't need perfect form.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can curl 30lb and do 10 pullups, but I cant do 10lb on these

      Cables are way better for these. I went from 25lbs to 50lbs this year.

      Note taken, thank you

      Just keep doing them. More flapping, less whining.

      I do like 30-50 reps on 5lb and still no progress

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can curl 30lb and do 10 pullups, but I cant do 10lb on these
        You might have something wrong with your shoulder ask a doctor or personal trainer or something

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The normal lateral raise is literally a half-rep movement. Of course your progress would be super slow unless you really spam them (assuming you even have the time). Do the Egyptian raise variant, or Lu raise, or Y raise with an incline bench/cables, or seated clean instead.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cables are way better for these. I went from 25lbs to 50lbs this year.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post shoulders

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never posting myself on IST.
        I don't look impressive anyway. I'm 6'3" and natty so no cannonballs to show off but at least they're strong. Working on getting klokov 1pl8 to 10 reps.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just keep doing them. More flapping, less whining.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      missed an opportunity to say 'yapping' here

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he really did, what a frickin idiot loser

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should have said "more flapping less yapping"

      Missed opportunity bro.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do ohp first then super set these. And you'll see their weight go up pretty quick but you'll get way less reps than normal.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Am I doing something wrong?
    yes, u're trying to make sense of lat raises - they are horrible stupid shit that doesn't work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're tough, just such small muscles regardless progress is slow. Always treat them as an accessory to OHP. I can do 25lbs but I do them after OHP, but before front raises and rear-delt on my shoulder days

      I'm a 36 yo fatass and started training seriously for the first time in my life 3 months ago. I can't really do OHP because of shoulder issues so my main delt exercise is lat raises. Delts are one of my most drastic changes so I guess for some people lateral raises absolutely work.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >in only few weeks Robert learned to pose hand in pocket

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so I guess for some people lateral raises absolutely work
        pictured obese frick on roids bot, no lat raises can't work, don't work, regardless of anatomical differences

        for starters u need very specific conditions:
        bend forward, humerus in "scapular plane" i.e. 45 deg, elbow first up and only then u can maybe somewhat ease off from anterior delt and maybe touch a little medial delt
        BUT
        but medial delt comes of scapula and until u're overhead it's tendon and muscle itself is poked by bone = no time under tension because poked muscle does not contract nor hold tension properly, it's overhead u moronic bot
        >ohp it is
        still anterior delt only and IMPINGEMENT, just like lat raises
        medial delt is overhead alright, unilaterally in static hold:
        position like pic (bent spine) and look away (avoid neck issues) there u internally rotate shoulder, that's it, that is the only side delt isolation there is, only one that can give u meaningful time under muscular tension, first try elbow micro-extensions with internal rotation, with practice static hold is entirely viable - just hold internal rotation that ur lat is trying to unwind

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Getting accused of using gear as a middle aged beginner is the best confirmation that what I'm doing is working. Thanks, anon. I'll continue doing lateral raises.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're tough, just such small muscles regardless progress is slow. Always treat them as an accessory to OHP. I can do 25lbs but I do them after OHP, but before front raises and rear-delt on my shoulder days

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so do 7lb?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its meant to be a difficult exercise anon. I usually do 15 lbs only. I can do 20 lbs but its harder of course and anything past this I know that my form will start to break down so I don't really go past 20. These are more meant for just reps and to get a good amount of them in. So don't be too upset you can't do much.

    For the record I am benching 225 lbs for 10+ reps, weighted dips with 135 lbs for 10, can OHP my current bodyweight at 165 lbs, etc.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i use 20kg dumbbells for these, i think i just have great shoulder genetics or something cus even when i was dyel and was going gym with my friend whos 6ft 4 and way stronger than me he could only do 6kg while i was doing like 12kg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      having longer arms moment arm (kek) a lot, being 6'4 probably hurts for these

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        whatever weight u do it's still moronic and only thing it will do is injure ur shoulder and beat down anterior delt which u already nuked 20 times over with bench, bench, ohp, curls, etc

        https://i.imgur.com/GxexIEO.jpeg

        >so I guess for some people lateral raises absolutely work
        pictured obese frick on roids bot, no lat raises can't work, don't work, regardless of anatomical differences

        for starters u need very specific conditions:
        bend forward, humerus in "scapular plane" i.e. 45 deg, elbow first up and only then u can maybe somewhat ease off from anterior delt and maybe touch a little medial delt
        BUT
        but medial delt comes of scapula and until u're overhead it's tendon and muscle itself is poked by bone = no time under tension because poked muscle does not contract nor hold tension properly, it's overhead u moronic bot
        >ohp it is
        still anterior delt only and IMPINGEMENT, just like lat raises
        medial delt is overhead alright, unilaterally in static hold:
        position like pic (bent spine) and look away (avoid neck issues) there u internally rotate shoulder, that's it, that is the only side delt isolation there is, only one that can give u meaningful time under muscular tension, first try elbow micro-extensions with internal rotation, with practice static hold is entirely viable - just hold internal rotation that ur lat is trying to unwind

        >it's overhead u moronic bot

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Controlled concentric, slow eccentric. I do these with 30lbs to parallel and 25lbs above the shoulder for extra trap work.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can we try 7lbs? Also ohp

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    might be your actual shoulder joint

    dont go straight out to the side, angle to the front more like 45-30 deg

    dont come up high if you are not feeling the actual side delt contracting

    if u dont have access to cables, u can use a heavier weight and just swing half way, the db just below chest heigh, for high reps to build the mind muscle connection, then drop the weight and try strict form

    inverting your grip will hit the right portion of the side delt https://youtu.be/to7y50jfa5M?si=wSNdlOcL-74bU2na&t=161

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      heavy partial side laterals

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    use momentum.it loads muscle more at longer length. doing it slowly is like slow rows for lats or kickbacks for tris. pointless.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    progressive overload, started at 4 kg and now moving to 9
    do 3 sets of 15 reps, when that becomes easy enough up the weight and try again

    also don't go above the shoulder, 90 degrees is enough

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine doing bench and think 1pl8 is easy ill try 2pl8 why are you doubling the weight

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >squatting 100kg is too easy but 200kg is fricking impossible
    >how is this possible guise???

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got tennis elbow from this, have to do one arm cheat lateral raise now.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I started doing them one arm at a time and it did wonders. Better stimulus, higher weight, more reps, etc.

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