I checked my testosterone levels. >11,46 nmol/l. am I gonna make it bros? should I visit a doctor or something?

I checked my testosterone levels
>11,46 nmol/l
am I gonna make it bros?
should I visit a doctor or something?
26, male, skinny fat here

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how does that manifest?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unable to grow a beard
      >belly fat, booba, skinny arms
      >low libido (unable to have sex two times one in one day)
      >diagnosed depression
      >no energy
      >shitty progress at the gym

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        sounds like me except my doctor recommended I do a sleep study before referring me to an endo, after my bloods came back and he said my test was roughly 40% lower than it should be for a 27 y/o make who gyms regularly.
        the best way I could describe it is that my body feels 20 years older and not like a male in his 20s. It isn't very receptive to lifestyle changes, I retain mantits and fat throughout years-long periods of gym and eating well. Energy levels suck, confidence in my decisions suck, I get emotional/irritable easily, struggle to stay focused. I'm sure ADHD is mixed in to some degree but haven't had that checked out yet.
        Most weeks I jerk off twice, or it's like twice a day for 2 days then nothing for a week.
        Can't grow a beard either.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Same here, I could deal with that shit but two weeks in a row I got a chick into bed and got ED, got bloodwork done the next day. Free test arriving at my doorstep in a few hours.

          WAGMI

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >my doctor recommended I do a sleep study before referring me to an endo
          Sounds like your Doctor is already planning to garden gnome you out of trt.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    See a doctor, better yet one at a TRT clinic.

    My first dose arrives today.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Woah how'd you get your insurance to help? Were you so bad you got some low t diagnosis? I go through a clinic where I pay in full each time because insurance won't help my ass would appreciate advice on how you worked that friend

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but I just had to test under 340 twice (two separate days) before 11am, and then insurance would cover my injections, still have copay. Every insurance has different standards, my clinic has a print out of what each of them consider low t.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks anon, I've been on trt for about two years, I think I was initially a decent bit higher than that but I wonder what I can do now for consideration? Maybe I can appeal to my insurance or something.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'd talk with your doctors at your clinic and see what they say, but maybe an extreme attempt could be getting off trt for a while and getting tested before your natural levels rebound.
            You can help achieve low t results by working out really hard the day before testing, then eat very little, jack off, and get a terrible night's sleep.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Might give it a go. I'm engaged again, used my super testosterone to claw myself back after a failed marriage, I'm super me in comparison and don't know if I have the balls to deal with the inevitable hardcore crash and how it will effect my personal life

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tfw you can chud pills in the EU
        >but you can't get TRT from your doctor
        Why

        Government employee in Canada, got health benefits out the ass. My female coworkers use it for stupid shit like Prada frames on prescription sunglasses.

        Covid wrecked my shit so I've been doing hardly any exercise for 3 months, and sleeping maybe 5 hours a night. Did bloodwork and the doctor instantly prescribed test cyp, hcg, and an estrogen blocker. She's getting me a prescription for minoxidil or fin and cialis too.

        Taxpayer funded gains, I got lucky.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          god canada sounds like heaven you guys can also just buy weed right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you guys can also just buy weed right?
            Disgusting gay

            [...]
            Government employee in Canada, got health benefits out the ass. My female coworkers use it for stupid shit like Prada frames on prescription sunglasses.

            Covid wrecked my shit so I've been doing hardly any exercise for 3 months, and sleeping maybe 5 hours a night. Did bloodwork and the doctor instantly prescribed test cyp, hcg, and an estrogen blocker. She's getting me a prescription for minoxidil or fin and cialis too.

            Taxpayer funded gains, I got lucky.

            I'm jealous bro, enjoy that great coverage and thanks for your response

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >disgusting gay
              >can buy legal weed
              >does not use it for better sleep

              retard our ancestors used weed only garden gnomes hate weed.

              Yeah you can just buy weed from a store, government run the online delivery business so I suppose you could get a prescription of it too.

              Canada is decent, if you don't come from money you'll never afford a house in the big cities and our healthcare system is falling apart. But if you make okay money then it's a fairly good place to live.

              >Yeah you can just buy weed from a store, government run the online delivery business so I suppose you could get a prescription of it too.

              sounds comfy I would only use it as sleep help or to come down from a workout.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >only garden gnomes hate weed
                L
                O
                L
                Cope harder stoner gay. Weed kills all drive in life. If you believe otherwise you're on the wrong fucking board. Quit the lazy sauce and start working out you moron

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Weed kills all drive in life.

                I'm workout out you retard and if you take weed in the evening you're fine.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The stench of unwashed malaise, proudly worn on you, you stand as tall as you're able while being absolute trash, everyone smells you moron. I smell you from the Internet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this butthurt over weed
                what happened in your childhood anon?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                garden gnomes want everyone sitting on their couch, smoking pot, watching morons on netflix and voting for democrats
                The #1 subversive garden gnome in the world George Soros spends millions on legalizing weed at the state level.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah you can just buy weed from a store, government run the online delivery business so I suppose you could get a prescription of it too.

            Canada is decent, if you don't come from money you'll never afford a house in the big cities and our healthcare system is falling apart. But if you make okay money then it's a fairly good place to live.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >you guys can also just buy weed right?
            Disgusting gay
            [...]
            I'm jealous bro, enjoy that great coverage and thanks for your response

            Yeah there is no joke, 1 dispensery for every McDonald's in my city. Half of them do delivery to your door.

            Got half an O earlier this week for like 70$ it's fucking sick

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can do that in like half of America too

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Eye Care benefits are separate and insurance companies won't differentiate between clear glasses and sunglasses, so long as they're prescription.
          You may as well get yourself some expensive shades too, man.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            i mean i do this, i buy extremely expensive prescription sunglasses. it cost the same amount as regular sunglasses with insurance so why not?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Based. I can get cosmetic stuff like teeth whitening too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw you can chud pills in the EU
      >but you can't get TRT from your doctor
      Why

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ~~**~~

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how low was your test?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't see the results but the doc said those of a 48 year old man, I'm 28. I didn't disclose that I haven't lifted in months, slept like shit, and had a tactical fap before the test.

        She was based.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >smokes weed
        >aaahhh why is my test so low help me chinese bathtub chemicals

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          not to mention marijuana unironically causes breast tissue growth due to multiple chemicals ingested.

          once again pomegranate juice, i'm not sure why people ignore this so much.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            other anon here what the fuck does pomegranate juice do? I'll try anything at this point. You talking buying pomegranates and running them through a juicer at home?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              and here we go.
              part 1

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm unironiccally not going to read some long ass bull shit while I'm at work or after, give it to me straight and simple, what does it do, what brand/type should I buy, and is it boosting test or something else to help with all this shit? I will treat you like an expert and give you zero pushback, but I will not read a fucking book on it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pomegranate estrogens are SERMS selective estrogen receptor modulators.
                Estrogen is not evil inherently, there are many many different types of plant, animal, and synthetic estrogens.
                Most of the ones we ingest now days are very harmful. The ones found in pomegranate juice almost mimic human estrogen entirely. No documented negatives, no breast growth, no anything.
                So by ingesting these specific plant estrogens you prevent the uptake of the actually harmful ones.
                The polyphenols in pomegranate also aid metabolizing of harmful estrogens.
                This is why specific fruits and vegetables are actually needed for humans to be healthy (opposed to carnivore diet). While excess fruits/vegetables of the wrong kind are extremely unhealthy (in argument against veganism).

                Pomegranate also works exactly the same way as cialis. So does ginger.
                Both are PDE5 inhibitors, which prevents a reaction that stiffens vein walls. Keeping them loose, which. helps with erections, physical healing, and further removal of harmful or bad chemicals/minerals/hormones. Since increased cardiovascular strength directly correlates to filtration.

                [...]
                sounds good bruz ideally I can get on TRT within a few months and going to pump some pomegranate juice while I'm at it

                Keep to 1 glass a day, like I said the full limits of pomegranate have not been tested and I have no citations for at what point the excess phytoestrogens would be a negative gain.
                At one glass a day I can assure you of the positive benefits.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Neat, succinct and informative, thank you anon, do you have a brand preference? I imagine some of the stuff I can buy in a store aren't of great quality or are heavily diluted

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                don't buy k-mart brand, diluted, and added sugar.
                You don't have to buy POM juice (which is the best option, but also the most costly at 10 dollars roughly for 5-7 servings). However it's up to you.
                It's a supplement so I take it as a supplement.
                I take a half-glass before my first meal in the morning to prevent negative estrogen uptake.
                I take a half-glass before bed for the PDE5 inhibitor benefits to aid the healing process.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Neat, thanks friend

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                np there are a few others that act similarly.
                ginger tea for instance is great for reducing stomach inflammation, is a PDE5 inhibitor.
                cranberry juice is a great option for the urinary system.

                always in moderation, all of these while potentially beneficial will cause the same issues as ingesting excessive estrogen if taken too often. you want to mimic natural estrogen production, not beat it out.
                You can do a rotational basis. pomegranate every day 1 cup and ginger tea one day cranberry the next.
                see what works for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                moron I'm not reading this don't you have better things to do than write an essay on IST?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm going out of my way to help you, if you won't take the time to read it you are not worth helping.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can I pin pomegranate juice and red onion juice? Want ogre gains

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So ginger works the same way as pomegranate, or am I reading this incorrectly?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/oSdmpix.png

                [...]
                part 2

                TLDR
                >pomegranate juice acts as PDE5 inhibitor much like cialis (and almost as effective at a much lower cost per serving)
                >pomegranate juice estrogens are estrogen modifiers, doing a lot less damage to the body and inhibiting uptake of much more damaging estrogens while promoting your own natural estrogen cycle which combats foreign plant/synthetic sources of estrogen.

                it helps erection, it raises testosterone, and has been proven to reduce and actually (in a few documented cases) remove breast tissue.

                sounds good bruz ideally I can get on TRT within a few months and going to pump some pomegranate juice while I'm at it

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/6uqn4Rv.jpg

              and here we go.
              part 1

              part 2

              TLDR
              >pomegranate juice acts as PDE5 inhibitor much like cialis (and almost as effective at a much lower cost per serving)
              >pomegranate juice estrogens are estrogen modifiers, doing a lot less damage to the body and inhibiting uptake of much more damaging estrogens while promoting your own natural estrogen cycle which combats foreign plant/synthetic sources of estrogen.

              it helps erection, it raises testosterone, and has been proven to reduce and actually (in a few documented cases) remove breast tissue.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pregnyl
      >an AI
      Imagine taking an AI right off the bat and crashing your estrogen because estrogen bad
      Doctors are retarded dude. Don't take the AI unless you need it. Unless your fat as fuck odds are you'll never need one.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        She said take it if I notice any high E symptoms, my natural levels were fairly low too.

        I'm lean but have some fat around the hips and a small bit around the tits.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      LOL rip your endocrine system
      My best friend took similar stuff till he burnt out his pituitary gland. Now he's legitimately retarded

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'll take retarded over not being to fuck girls, brain fog, fucked confidence and sleep etc that comes with low T.

        I'm seeing the doc every 3 months for checkups on bloods and the endocrine system. Discussed how to cycle off etc. Only really care about possible hair loss, even the doc was miring it.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are there so many threads about low test and TRT lately

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because people are discovering that all the news about how average testosterone levels have been decreasing year after year is actually true and greatly impacts your life

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they think test is Captain America serum and will solve all their shitty life problems.
      The joke is for most anon,, just like the OP, his levels are normal and he is just a loser.
      If he goes on TRT he will be a loser with a high test level.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How does one "check" their levels?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My test is 50 nmol/l. Lady at the lab told me I should get checked for cancer or smth. Gains were always good but I've been having anxiety for years. Should I be worried, or is something not converting and other lab info would explain this anomalous value? Thanks in advance, sorry for asking a question in your thread OP.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you get anomalous values on pretty much anything, you should most definitely consult your doctor
      Also get retested, it could be a faulty measurement.
      As for disorders that cause this, you could have a deficit of aromatase or an issue with your testes, pituitary gland or hypothalamus. Not a doctor though, I'm just speculating

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nmol/l
    it's nmol/dl dumbass.
    that means you've got 145nmol/dl and are effectively a woman or obese.
    the only way a twenty year old has those levels is an inactive lifestyle with excessive estrogen that is converting.

    Recommend.
    1. Lose weight at all cost.
    2. Cardio
    3. light lifting.
    4. no excessive masturbation (once a week or less)
    5. pomegranate juice un-ironically

    at me if you have any questions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fapping has NOTHING to do with your test levels, retard. You fell for nofap propaganda.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.
        Excessive masturbation does lower testosterone.
        Not masturbating has diminishing returns with raising testosterone.
        Stopping masturbating entirely will not raise your testosterone levels to some absurd amount.
        So a process of moderation is the best bet.

        There are multiple citations online so if this is the hill you want to die on provide citations otherwise newfag.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There are multiple citations online
          you mean that one fake chink study that you nofap schizos posted for the last 10 years?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Either provide a citation for your stance or this conversation is done.
            I'm not going to argue with some autistic fuck who can't stop himself from masturbating.

            If you get anomalous values on pretty much anything, you should most definitely consult your doctor
            Also get retested, it could be a faulty measurement.
            As for disorders that cause this, you could have a deficit of aromatase or an issue with your testes, pituitary gland or hypothalamus. Not a doctor though, I'm just speculating

            pituitary gland and hypothalamus are both worth considering.
            due to a life of excess stimulation in most persons chronic dopamine release from hypothalamus can interfere with pituitary gland's ability to regulate its hormone cycle.
            Dopamine usually lowers prolactin, but there have been studies that the damaging inhibition on the pituitary can cause it to begin to release excess prolactin.

            It could be as easy as what you said with a second test. Timing is everything, test levels can greatly fluctuate on a given day way more than what most people think. Having a base line of multiple test is a better indicator.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://medium.com/@nicole.prause/masturbation-and-testosterone-7-days-later-769867555490

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a literal feminist who provides no citation
                did you even think to read your "citation" before posting it dumbass?
                Once again moderation, excessive masturbation does decrease testosterone. We know this, it's factual.
                Not masturbating isn't going to skyrocket your testosterone levels because of the natural hormone cycle.
                However moderated masturbation can increase testosterone by a modest to moderate amount.

                once again provide a citation or fuck off.
                you're the one arguing against moderation dumbass. If you post another shill link again I'll flat out ignore you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >citation
                >citation
                >citation
                >citation
                >citation
                the chink paper IS FAKE even the journal that published it admits this
                there is not a single real paper that shows any correlation between masturbation and test levels
                you are the one that is making an unbased claim, why do I need to provide proof of the contrary?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ignored
                didn't read

                Can I pin pomegranate juice and red onion juice? Want ogre gains

                I wouldn't, the purpose of pomegranate juice and SERMs (general) is to inhibit estrogen uptake.
                Which means any additional foods or chemicals ingested before that point have the potential for increasing competition of absorption by the estrogen receptors.
                Just wake up and first thing down half a glass and wait about 10-15 minutes before continuing on.
                You'd usually want to wait an hour, but i understand time restraints can prevent this.
                Just do your best anon.

                Also plenty of citations on SERMs reducing breast tissue growth.
                So by all means do some research yourself. I'm not snake oiling you by any means. SERMs are real and extremely useful in moderation.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if you do not have orgasms you will become a high T Chad who gets to have orgasms
          this is what nofappers beleive

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no where did i say not to masturbate dumbass. your cope is insane.

            moderation, have sex unironically with your girlfriend or wife a few times a week.
            huge difference between you jacking off every day and you busting a nut twice a week.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >dont jack off every day so you can become high T and getgirlfriend to nut into every day
              do you realize you are retarded?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you seriously not realize that there is a difference between jacking off and having sex?
                bro, just have sex. I am telling you personally it's okay for you to not be a virgin.
                You jerking off to furry porn is not comparable to having sex with a woman. The hormone release is vastly different.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                and yet you're the coping weirdo incel who thinks not touching your dick will make you "high t" so women will touch your dick

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are test levels really that importnant? Isnt low normal test (if you are a healthy male) just a side effect of having sensitive androgen receptors that dont need that much test?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      healthy hormones is a melody of everything
      having high t doesn't mean you're a healthy male, not at all
      having low t means you're really unhealthy

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ratio is the most important factor.
      excessively low testosterone means without even checking that you have excess estrogen. the two hormones are plentiful in the human body and have to exist at specific amounts for basic bodily functions.

      As a man you can have high testosterone, as long as it's higher than your estrogen. Many many athletes have high estrogen levels, but an appropriate testosterone level to match or beat it.

      This doesn't include bound testosterone factors, free testosterone, etc. Which are there own issues.

      Using an example of someone having 300nmol/dl you could live a normal life entirely as long as your estrogen was ratio lower.
      Now there is an issue with not having enough estrogen also.

      Law of diminishing returns m8, it's a law for a reason. Excess testosterone does nothing, not having enough estrogen does something. All about finding the perfect ratio for you.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fuck off scholomo, yes they are literally that important.
      every single guy ever on TRT has received amazing quality of life benefits

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you have no symptoms of low T the number is meaningless.
      But IST losers cope by believing the football Chad who gets the girls is "high T" and you're a fat loser who jacks off to anime pedo cartoons because you're "low T".
      In fact, you have higher T than Chad but youre just a loser weirdo with shitty genetics.
      Its all cope.
      TRT does very little if your not hypogonadal.
      I never checked my natty T levels, but I'm currently taking 1000mg plus some other stuff a week and it doesnt make you superman, fix your mental problems or change your bad habits. All it does is grow muscle at an amazing rate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      /fit/'s conception of test is kind of like the old "4 humors theory" where they think there's a balance between an abstract amount of high test and low test in the body that determines your behavior

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >330ng/dl
    It's not ideal but it's not too terrible either. You could probably get it up just by lifestyle changes
    >lift
    >eat well (pay special attention to micros like vitD and zinc)
    >go outside a lot
    >sleep well

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    More time in the sun, more squats, more sprints, more push ups and dive bombers for a holistic approach to increasing testosterone.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >26, male, skinny fat here

    With this test? You are not a male, op

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why can you self-diagnose "MtF" or "FtM" by yourself and get doctor write a blank check for hormones, but you can't self-diagnose "MtM" (low test) and get test for days?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because liberals love morons and gays and hate you and want you dead for being neither of those things. Literally. When they aren't working towards killing babies this is their focus.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        So true.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The hormones cost the same for every patient. We like to believe the trannies are getting special treatment but it's probably not true. My experience with the NHS right now is that things keep moving and I'm getting where I want IF I keep hounding them. It's the same conversation on the chud forums I found when I was first thinking how to approach the doctors. If you just let them put you on a waiting list and sit on your hands like a low test bitch, you'll never get the treatment you want The trannies bitch and moan every day until they get what they want to make them go away. You can do the same.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My test levels came back 758 ng/dl i dont know wtf this means didnt see my doc for her to sxplain they juat sent me results saying its in "normal levels" wtf that means. I dont wanna be normal levels like every dyel out there. How do i raise ot to above normal levela without steroids?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bruh, op is 331 ng/dl, you good

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      758 is actually extremely high.
      average adult man (not running on teenage hormone high) is 300-500.
      How they test testosterone is wrong.
      You have "all adult males"
      which is inaccurate and misleading.
      In reality you have "teenager to young adult", "midlife". "aging".
      If you are on teenager to young adult with 758 you are median to slightly high.
      If you are midlife you are quite high.
      if you are aging you are running gear.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you're looking for medical intervention, you need to lower your levels dramitcallybefore getting more tests done.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    tired: test for muscles
    wired: test for deeper voice

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you make gains with such low T?

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