I don't understand the appeal to nature argument of Carnivore dietist, I was taught that from the stone age to the medieval age people ate fermen...

I don't understand the appeal to nature argument of Carnivore dietist, I was taught that from the stone age to the medieval age people ate fermented plants, wild grains, mushrooms etc and a hunt actually happened only a couple of times a year. You can clearly see this it how it was with the Native Americans.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Small people who are skinny/short live the longest. That’s it. Ketards and all the other similar meme diet supporters lose their minds when faced with the fact that 5’2 Thais who eat nothing but rice are not only healthier than them but will outlive them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >surely it's just the rice not the fact that they live amongst family in a ethnically homogeneous monarchy instead of a globohomosexual plantation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        God, I want to torture idiots like you to death. I'd love to get you in a locked room and just start slowly beating you to death, raping you in the butthole while I alternatingly punch you in the back of your head and take bites out of your flesh. You fricking imbecile. I'd love to see the look of fear in your eyes once you realize we're all alone. I would shout at you furiously as my fists made mincemeat of your internal organs. Your ribs would break with a sickening crunch. Your brain would spill out of your fricking ears. wienersucker. Your last moments on this earth would be filled with trembling horror, and, just before you die, I'd cum on your face. No homo, just hatred. The last thing you'd learn is that you're my b***h and always will be. Afterward, I would cook your flesh and eat it. I would eat every pound of you and shit your worthless guts out into the sewer, where you belong. Worthless. Idiot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >a fricking midget plans to live 100 years
      Good luck Frodo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah but what kind of life do we actually live? 100 years of constant humiliation

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It’s not really humiliating if everyone else around you is also small. The west hyped up being big, and eating a lot of protein heavy meals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Small people who are skinny/short live the longest.

      Malnourished people don't live longer kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes they do you moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Small, skinny people that are athletic and live longer are just made different. Has nothing to do with their diet. They eat like carnivores and still they won't get big.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong. The lifespan of asians has been backtracked to the high amount of sea food consumption.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick back off to Reddit where homosexualry like this belongs

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I was taught
    lies by israelites.
    medieval european peasants ate plenty of meat and dairy, just as their ancestors did for thousands of years.
    Meat only became scarce due to the industrial revolution population explosion and that didn't last very long. For 99% of human history, meat has been the staple of our diet. What you think about that fact doesn't really matter

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But they got BTFO by black death kek

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nearly go extinct several times in due to harsh and unpredictable European climate
        >neighbouring tribes killing eachother ruthlessly for thousands of years to establish dominance on the continent
        >mass genocides of entire cultures by established super powers
        >invaded and undermined by every flavour of shitskin
        >post empire population collapse and widespread famine
        >fight off Islamist expansion for 700+ years
        >get absolutely rekt by the plague
        >lose half your entire population in only a few years
        >keep warring with neighbours in never ending conflicts
        >lose 30% of your males in every war
        >still go on to have the enlightenment and industrial revolution
        >still conquer the rest of the world
        >still bring civilisation to the colonies
        GOD it's good to be white

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't understand the appeal to nature argument of Carnivore dietist
    You don't understand why the things you're evolved to eat are your best dietary option?

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2203574-peasants-in-medieval-england-ate-a-diet-of-meat-stew-and-cheese/

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I was taught wrong

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    try looking at evolutionary stages and dietary changes
    then look at modern people who have reverted like you, and can't even make sense of it with access to all of the information at your fingertips

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >a hunt actually happened only a couple of times a year. You can clearly see this it how it was with the Native Americans.
    The frick are you talking about? The natives hunted and fished year round.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's old and unapproved science by old white men. Real experts conducted studies that show Injuns were all vegans.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its all just dumb fad shit, eat a balanced meal and get some fricking exercise once and a while and youll be fine

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not to mention how lean wild animals are. On the carnivore diet they tell you eat 80% fat but how would you achieve that in nature?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking LOL. Paid propagandist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon has never heard of pigs and cows

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        anon has poor reading comprehension

        Fricking LOL. Paid propagandist.

        anon eats domesticated goy meat and thinks that's natural

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Black person, we can discuss the problems with the farming industry once you and your buddy stop lying blatantly about everything.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            lying about what? what are you rambling about schizo

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Lying about what Native Americans ate, lying about what peasants ate, lying about what "carnivore diet" implies and what arguments its proponents make. What else are you planning to lie about ITT, shill?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Go be a Black person somewhere else. People that survived heavily off animal products typically ate lots of fat.
          In Eskimos it was seal blubber that helped them fight gout. They didn't forage much.
          In Europe it was butter and olive oil and cheese. In Mongolia it was yogurt and cheese.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Eskimos had one of the lowest life expectancies in the world

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              They lived in the Arctic with no modern medicine. What's your point? If they had a Western diet they couldn't survive there at all. kek

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              wall-e is truly an underrated movie. but i guess most people are born cowardly slaves.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You don't get atherosclerosis in 5 years, you Danish homosexual. I guarantee you this guy was eating like shit for the first 40 years of his life. Furthermore, he is probably on steroids or other anabolic hormones which frick up your blood and heart.

        • 1 month ago
          Your Emperor

          lol eating carnivore and looking this onions and emaciated is pretty sad ngl. there's a reason why athletes, the ones who get off their asses and actually do a substantial amount of exercise aren't bothering with this carnitard shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's hard to build muscle on keto. That's well-known.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You eat the organs and fat not the muscle meat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        His point is null and void because keto and carnivore diet are not the same thing. It's also null and void because both keto and carnivore allow for the consumption of high-fat animal products besides meat itself.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Generally appeal to nature makes no sense because the food available to you today has nothing to do with the food available to your ancestors. Infested with pesticides, antibiotics, chemicals of all kinds, even your right-wing-hippie natural grass fed organic beef isn't totally safe, not to mention the effects of millennia of selective breeding. And then even if you could eat food straight from the stone age, why would you? Why not use science and technology to your advantage? You know you need protein to build muscle, and you know plant protein is inferior to animal protein. How is the stone age relevant?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Infested with pesticides, antibiotics, chemicals of all kinds
      That's appeal an appeal to nature, chud. Just because your ancestors didn't consoom these wonders of soience doesn't mean they're bad for you.

      >And then even if you could eat food straight from the stone age, why would you?
      Because it's infinitely better for your health.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        But this food doesn't exist today. What's the point arguing about unicorns? This bickering just distracts from real issues like xenoestrogens. It's irrelevant whether your ancestors ate beef, it's relevant whether your beef is poisoned.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >But this food doesn't exist today
          Meat doesn't exist today?

          >It's irrelevant whether your ancestors ate beef, it's relevant whether your beef is poisoned.
          Both are relevant. Why are you making silly appeals to nature? Just because xenoestrogen and microplastics in your food are unnatural doesn't mean it's bad. Trust the science.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Yes it's true rabbits ate plants in the stone age but it's appeal to nature to feed them plants in modern times.
      OP is wrong about what hunter gatherers are but appeal to nature doesn't apply here. That is usually a vegan catch phrase when you point out that they're killing themselves slowly.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    american indians were homosexuals.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is not true at all. Hunter gatherer tribes still exist and they eat lots of meat, honey, and starches. Humans can't digest wild plants and the few that we can digest don't provide enough calories. Humans evolved to eat cooked meat. That's why our teeth and digestive system are so fragile.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Politics?
    Herb.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    to each its own, the manlet peasant rabble ate less meat and hunted less, meanwhile the nobility had hunting reserves, Charlemagne literally died on a hunting expedition as a very old man because he couldn't get enough of that juicy wild hunt and roasted meat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the manlet peasant rabble ate less meat and hunted less
      This was purely a product of agricultural societies. Now peasants can have meat too because of advances in husbandry. Humans crave meat because that's what we are adapted to.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The experts you see in the news look through a filter of 'what's good for the hive' and not what is better for you as an individual. This is the case with nutrition, mental health etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's the most euphemistic way to phrase this.

      most of it is bluntly "have a nice day"...

      it is like this is almost anything... it is always to generate discomfort and discontent.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The maasai have the shortest lifespan in the world, 20 years shorter than the omnivore tribes that live in the same area of kenya at just 44 years. The mongolians also have a 15 year shorter lifespan than their omnivore neighbors. Maasai are taller on average though. Milk consumption during childhood in particular has been linked to adult height but consumption of the carnivore diet will kill you sooner. Its for this reason that the healthiest diet is lactovegetarian or cheegan

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The maasai have the shortest lifespan in the world, 20 years shorter than the omnivore tribes that live in the same area of kenya at just 44 years
      gonna need a source on that one homosexual

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just google it pedro, the inuits also have the lowest life expectancy in canada. Peoples who consume mostly meat across the board die earliest

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Peoples who consume mostly meat across the board die earliest
          They also have the least access to modern medicine, so your argument is invalid.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No because there are omnivore tribes living in the same area whose life expectancies are much long; yes you are an absolute moron

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >there are omnivore tribes living in the same area whose life expectancies are much long
              Proof?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Look up tribe in kenya and compare to 42 years for maasai males and 42 for females moron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Still waiting for you to provide a source on the life expectancy of Maasai and then life expectancy of another tribe in the same area that has a similar lifestyle besides diet.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Other tribes in the area live to their 60's. They eat vegetables. That is the only difference between them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Source? You won't provide one in your next post. The thread will die without you posting a source.
              >inb4 educate yourself chud

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The native Americans were a disease prone, weak and primitive people.

    Their lack of development was precisely because of their deprivation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I dont think it has anything to do with diet tho .
      It was mainly because theywere never exposed to old world diseases to build immunity to them .

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the White Black slave is seething over free peoples again

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Beef is good for human health. Carbs are what kill us.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The paleo diet is better. All meat or all vegetable is bad for your brain.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I was taught
    Who cares what your homosexual teachers had to say?

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I hope you get dragged to the streets and hanged

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you need to eat vegetables, meat, dairy, fruits, nuts, legumes, bread, etc
    none of these strict diets are worth shit
    if you're afraid of eating a full english breakfast you're a homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you need to eat vegetables, meat, dairy, fruits, nuts, legumes, bread, etc
      You don't need to eat anything that isn't commonly found in nature where your ancestors evolved. You certainly don't need to eat grain-based crap.

  24. 1 month ago
    Joe Biden

    >I'm a homosexual who hates meat so you shouldn't have it goy.

    KYS homosexual

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thats not what he said at all you double digit iq tar black floppy lipped baboon
      nobody is trying to take your kfc

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >fermented plants, wild grains, mushrooms etc
    try that in real life, go out into the woods and see what there is to eat. actually now would be a good time to do it because you might find a few bird eggs, but you wont find any fruit or grain, and the mushrooms would kill you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you wont find any fruit or grain, and the mushrooms would kill you
      browngoloid mutant spotted
      theres plenty of edible wild fruits, nuts, greens, and tubers abundant in almost every region of this nation. and edible mushrooms are abundant as well. being able to identify edible plants/mushrooms is a valuable skill

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        wild fruit grows in late summer
        wild mushrooms grow after rainy weather and will be picked clean by wildlife by late morning
        you dont know what you are talking about

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >evolve
    determinist Black person thinks the bread God endorsed and blessed shouldn't be eaten, lmao get the frick out of here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the bread God endorsed and blessed
      Fricking kek. If you needed any more evidence that a certain religion was made by and for cattle.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yeah bro the mammoths and every other giant herbivore animal just took a flight out of here,
    they surely werent hunted and killed to extinction by ancient humans who only ate them

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You were taught wrong. Cities here have archives going back to the high middle ages, and you will find lots of documents detailing what is sold on the market places and for how much. The reality is that meat, fish and poultry were very much part of the average citizen's diet back then. Do you really think peasants could do the hard physical labour consisting only on porridge and vegetables?

    Stop taking your history lessons from Hollywood movies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't eat as much meat as we do now. But they did eat it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Do you denounce Israel, veganism and Just Stop Oil?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          the talmud condemns veganism

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you denounce Israel, veganism and Just Stop Oil?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              i denounce israel and the anti oil agenda
              i will not stand with the israeli talmud on veganism as i denounce the talmud

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See? Like clockwork. Every time someone tells you to eat less meat, ask them if they denounce Israel, veganism and Just Stop Oil. They will never denounce all three and you will immediately know to ignore any posts by that ID.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                insane cope

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >won't denounce veganism
                >thinks his opinions about meat matter
                lol. lmao, even.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >your opinion only matters if you agree with me
                tar black knuckle dragging baboon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Whom are you quoting, schizo? Your opinion doesn't have to align with mine, but your refusal to condemn veganism is a pretty good indicator that nothing you say matters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to share my opinion
                no, quit being a Black person

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Whom are you quoting, schizo? The impotent rage when you get caught... frick off, vegan shill.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Go paleo. You need both meat and vegetables to be healthy. And avoid too much fat of any kind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Do you denounce Israel, veganism and Just Stop Oil? You are physically incapable of forming relevant opinions about meat unless you do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            literally impossible to survive winter without eating fat

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You might be surprised that people didn't live lives covered in mud 24/7 either.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Native americans
    Pemmican can stretch a long way

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >evidence
    determinists don't get to make arguments, self-refuting position

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >schizophrenic christBlack person keeps babbling something about determinism, completely out of context
    Is this a broken bot or what?

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >takes absurd position
    >complains when called out on incoherence

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >eating meat is so BRAVE and MANLY even though i never partake in the slaughtering of animals myself. who cares if its the most carcinogenic and estrogenic food out there, its calorie and nutrient dense! also i think about my penis all day and other mens penises on the internet so eating meat is pretty important to me

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ts the most carcinogenic and estrogenic food out there
      American problems. Can't relate.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You can clearly see this it how it was with the Native Americans.
    Except the Comanche, who were the wealthiest and deadliest tribe of all. Their diet was mostly carnivorous. In fact they were pushovers before they got horses and just ate mostly meat.

    In any case, carnivore is the ideal diet, if you can eat afford to and not be bored of eating meat all the time; great. Otherwise, stick to a paleo diet that is ancestrally consistent for you. The primary thing I think carnivore seeks to overcome is the idea that meat, especially red meat, is bad for you.

    There's also a few things to think about your diet:
    >what grows you
    >what sustains you
    >what harms you

    You can survive off grains and vegetables, sure. Someone may live a long life. But if you want to live long and thrive you want to eat meat too. What you want to avoid is what harms you, which is anything that causes inflammation. For a lot of people, but not all, grains may cause that, especially when it's a big part of their diet.

    It can also be caused by over-indulging in something that may be "ancestrally consistent". For instance, your ancestors may have eaten spinach, but they wouldn't have wasted a whole bushel making a smoothie. Your body also isn't used to consuming that much, and lots of plants have small amounts of toxins and anti-nutrients that are intended to protect them from bugs but don't phase us... unless you consume a shit ton of them.

    The long and skinny of it is to only consume what was available to your ancestors, by the means that were available to them. Generally though, even if it was on the other side of the world it'd still be safe anyway, like mango or watermelon.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >eating goygrain is good because yahweh endorsed it in the Golem OS manual
    >eating meat is bad because it's deterministic
    The final and ultimate state of christBlack folk.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    except the first post explicitly contained meat and dairy
    you've been outed as a shill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh. Yeah, that's my bad.
      >eating goygrain is good because yahweh endorsed it in the Golem OS manual
      >rejecting goygrain is bad because it's deterministic

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You were taught wrong then.
    Humans are OMNIVORES. We eat everything.
    Meat,Plants,Fish, Mushrooms.
    Everything.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You write like you’ve questioned your gender at least once in your lifespan.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    they get enough meat on those hunts to last 3-4 months obviously.
    dumb frick

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and native americans were moronic and got dominated and are basically a spec of the world population

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I was taught.
    Ngmi

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    alright bro, go out into the forest, eat fermented plants, wild grans and MUSHROOMS and we will see how long you survive fricking dumb c**t moron

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Participate in your thread homosexual.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no everyone is toxic and you all support this diet.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any type of diet is dumb. You should eat a good variety of meat, veggies, fruits, etc.
    Also, the groups that hunted only a few times per year stored and preserved the meat so they would still have meat year-long. But Europeans domesticated animals for food. It has been a long time since they were hunter gatherers.
    And you should definitely not look to the Native Americans for inspiration. They were African-tier morons.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >don't look at what free peoples living a natural life ate
      >look at what human cattle shaped by millennia of slavery ate

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Muh noble savage.

        Native Americans were constantly at war with each other and literally taking each other into slavery.
        Then as soon as Europeans brought them horses and guns, which initially was a gesture of goodwill, they started genociding each other because they realized they could reach and kill each other much faster.
        They also started over-hunting but no one talks about that, it is the whites who get all the blame for the downfall of the Native Americans and for killing all the buffalo.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Native Americans were constantly at war with each other and literally taking each other into slavery.
          So?

  47. 1 month ago
    sage

    Cool off topic shitpost, homosexual.

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You can clearly see how this was with the native americans

    explain the pictographs of natives of hunting bison, deer, antelope, and mammoths. Natives followed the herds.

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Coastal Natives in Alaska lived off of Salmon, Berries, Black Seaweed.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    no one forces you to eat meat. Just dont make me eat only veggies, or I will eat you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no one forces you to eat meat
      People should be forced to eat meat, otherwise they lack essential nutrients and end up feeble-minded and easy for israelites prey on. If you don't force your diet on him, sooner or later he will force his diet on you. Such is life.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        nah, there are too many people to feed them properly. I prefer a mass genocide bringing global population below 100mil

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Humans are hypercarnivorous, which is defined as 70% of the diet from meat. That doesn't mean you shouldn't consume any plant material.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Only gigacarnivores are true humans. I have never touched a vegetable in my life.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >I don't understand
    Not my concern.

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