>i eat a carnivore diet because its like what my ancestors ate

>i eat a carnivore diet because its like what my ancestors ate
>doesn't realize paleolithic, mesolithic, and neolithic era humans ate whatever including raw vegetables, tubers, and berries

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think there's many people whose ancestors genuinely ate a carnivorous diet. Mine were mostly fishermen and herders with a primarily animal based diet and they still ate bread, apples, berries, etc when they got the chance to.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >bread
      >apples
      >berries
      cavemen with bread?
      ancient apples edible?
      ancient berries nontoxic?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Some ancient berries were edible. As well as some very starchy bulbous roots.
        Not that they'd get many of those during the ice age. At best during autumn, unless living in an equatorial region.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, wheat existed before farming

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore people are just as dumb as vegans

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >that's why people ate eating only farm animals
    I can make this shit up too
    >I eat a balanced diet because that's what my ancestors ate
    >doesn't realise their hunter gatherer ancestors wouldn't have eaten any farm shit and just eaten whatever available in a 20 mile radius
    >no more coffee and peaches
    >farmer ancestors mostly just ate grain slop and had tiny brains
    Go be your ancestors, varied dietcel.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What about supplements like creatine (found in red meat), iron (found in red meat and organs), B12 (found in red meat and organs), folate (found in red meat and organs), and literally any other micronutrient you can name (found in red meat and organs)?

      Did our ancestors have access to petrochemical manmade supplements or did they just eat a lot of RED MEAT and ORGANS? I can't figure it out for the life of me, help me IST.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What point are you trying to make?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          People have access to things their ancestors would never have had access to, and they claim the healthiest diet for a human involves these things. Those people are silly and wrong.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I see. Why do you think theyre silly and wrong?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              To speak specifically about vitamins—humans have never had access to vitamins, vitamins have horrible bioavailability because they have no food matrix and also the forms of many vitamins just aren't the forms our body use (folate vs folic acid, for example), and real food containing those vitamins is just always better.

              Also, because of food calculator apps and nutrition labels and whatnot, people get this idea that we've discovered every vitamin and micronutrient. That couldn't be farther from the truth—it's like saying we've discovered every star in the universe. To think that some artificial wienertail of just the vitamins we know about could replace a nutrient-rich food like beef liver is just hubris.

              This study showed that rats fed beef liver did so much better than rats fed a normal diet + B vitamins. They did so well with swimming and endurance that some rats had to be prematurely stopped after 2 hours of swimming (compared to ~10 minutes for the normal rats + vitamins). Sorry I can't find the full text, the name and the author is there. So unless you can find the full text or have a subscription, you'll have to take my word for what the study says hehe.
              https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/14864635/

              TL;DR: Every nutrient you need can be obtained from animals (meat + organs + connective tissue). This is well-established scientific fact. Plant foods should be eaten for fun or whatever you want (fruit are delicious, potatoes + butter is nice, rice is good, etc.), but they should never be seen as a source of nutrition.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >food shouldn't be seen as a source of nutrition
                good post aside from that little fart of moronation.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They also ate bugs and other humans.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >uh yeah they were just like CARROTS and POTATOES like everywhere!
    >uh our ancestors just like ate em all up!
    How stupid and removed from nature do you have to be to think that "raw vegetables and tubers" could possibly be a significant source of calories and nutrition for anyone not living in a time where grocery stores and farms existed?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Your pic doesn't even have any wild tubers you stupid frick

      Why do humans have 2-6x as many copies of the gene for amylase, the enzyme for digesting starch, compared to chimps, if we weren't eating tubers along with our meat + organs + bone marrow?

      Google search "Africa wild yam" you stupid frick. Nature is full of edible wild tubers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        First picture I found. Doesn't look very wild to me.

        >amylase gene
        Happened long ago in our evolutionary history, way before homosexual sapiens came to be. But that's an unnecessarily long conversation when you can just use your common sense.

        But it's hard to use common sense with people who have 0 life experience.
        >nature is full of edible wild tubers
        t. someone who has never been hiking or camping and who needs to touch grass.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Doesn't look very wild to me.
          Why, because your carnivore propaganda has convinced you that there were literally zero edible plants until humans made them 500 years ago?
          Fricking moron.
          You're not even worth the time to argue with.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Wrong edible plants did not exist until the third day when god created them inshallah

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >0 edible plants
            >fricking moron
            It's funny when you make your own argument and then call it moronic. I never said "0 edible plants." I specifically said "raw vegetables and tubers could not have been significant source of calories" because that is obviously a true statement.

            You seem to be full of a lot of anger, probably because you don't go outside. That would also explain your silly claims that nature is just overabundant with "edible wild tubers" lol. I recommend you go outside.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >it is only worth my time posting on IST IST when arguing with intellectuals, such as myself
            >humans began farming 500 years ago
            No way this guy is for real.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >not one wild tuber on the list
      do you even know what a tuber or bulb is?
      peanut brain

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      OH NO
      i want to be a primitivist vegan..but the veggies are like,ultra-human-modified.
      what do I EAT now?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >hunting
      >go to different water sources, saltlicks, clearings while searching for game
      >maybe have to chase game miles
      >have basic familiarity with every plant in your known world because the only things to learn are all the plants and animals around you and where everything is
      >while walking all over your area pass by plants you know to have edible seeds, sap, bulbs, berries, mushrooms etc
      >we should grab some of this shit on the way back or tell the women about it so they can walk around with the kids and get more food
      I walk my dog through the bush and know where a few different food sources are. It's not a long walk and I don't know much about the plants here but I could probably grab a few hundred calories.
      Also the hunter gatherers life wasn't just about finding as much food as efficiently as possible, especially if they didn't face hard winters. They had the time and flexibility to spend finding something they wanted but might have less calories.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nigge

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I'll take Wild African Fruits for $300, Alex.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That might be fine for Africans, but they are a literal other hominid species. And they didn't even hardly get a chance to eat any of that stuff, because the chimps and monkeys can easily get to it first. Not to mention those are modern CULTIVARS of the natrual wild fruit, which are/were probably bitter, green, tasted like shit, and indigestible. Try again little moron.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seasonal fruit, berries, nuts, leafy greens, herbs, roots and weird shit like that.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    This picture isn't what you think it is. No, no. It's not a grocery store from modern day. It's actually what you can find after spending an afternoon in the woods. Don't believe me? Try going backwoods hiking for a day and you'll see the same thing.

    Trust me. Pre-agricultural humans definitely did not get thousands of calories from killing animals every single day, ESPECIALLY not after inventing tools specifically for hunting and scraping out animals and having a massive increase in brain size following that.

    I mean come on. Do you really think a deer could provide complete and perfect nutrition for a small tribe of 50 people? You think pre-agricultural humans would use their lack of ability to smell, amazing eyesight, amazing stamina, and apex hunting prowess to hunt animals? No. Carrot collecting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Women gathered and butchered while men hunted. OP is trying to say the diet of prehistoric humans varied and it wasn't just meat. The diet was probably 90% meat with 10% of it being berries and wild tubers such as potato.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >he thinks health-focused reasonable people are binary and base what they eat on moral delusions and philosophies

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Your mom ate my raw tuber homosexual

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Berrypicker cope thread

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >doesn't realize that all the fruits/vegetables he eats didn't exist back in the stone age

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Meat sweats, constant fat feeling, shits.

    Look moron your ancestors didn't eat 4 tons of meat 3 times a day. They ate a mix of foods and they ate when they could. Yes it's probably more meat than the average American eats now, no it isn't close to what you're eat

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah our ancestors definitely used their superior senses of smell and excellent digging abilities to get carrots and potatoes between hunting megafauna lol!
      >meat sweats, constant fat feeling(?)
      This only happens if you consider "eating a lot of meat" to mean eating a lot of meat-lovers pizzas and hamburgers.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nature rewards those who hunt big game,not those who pick up glorified flowers (veggies)or dig some hole to get dirt-moss like potatoes.
    however non-organ meat is kinda shit also.
    >just consume raw organ meats,bone marrow, raw blood and raw milk.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >kill a deer
      >spend 20 minutes dressing it
      >only take the organs, broken bones, and somehow contain the blood
      >eat them raw and drink the blood
      >leave rest of body

      This might be the most moronic post I've ever read in my entire life and I have nothing but stoic scorn and unbridled pity for you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i TAKE ISSUE with you qualifying My post as moronic

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    snownigge

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >doesnt realize his ancestors were 5'5 and 110lbs skinny fricks
    why tf you eating like them in the first place?

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All this organ meat talk is fricking moronic.
    Only people who are very deficient in nutrients should ever bother with organs. If you eat muscle meat and fat of animals you don't need organs, you don't even need to drink much.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Take the Bonobo pill, bros. They hardly age when they get older, in looks and physically. Mainly fruit, meat when they can, and, here seems to be the difference with chimps, they eat tubers too. Theory on why they age so well compared to other monkeys is that the raw tubers, containing insoluble fiber, regularly clean out the digestive tract and therefor no buildup of endotoxins are possible.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Take the Bonobo pill, bros. They hardly age when they get older, in looks and physically.
      yeah probably because the average age at their death is the equivalent of early adulthood, you fricktard

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Paleolithic humans had high meat diets during ice age periods than warm periods.
    If you want to be huge (muscle or fat) then meat in your diet is essential.
    If you want to be a skinny famer then don't eat meat.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The real moron take is when people eat (primarily) raw food. Not even from a food safety point of view. Cooking food was literally key to a biological breakthrough in our brains. Your mind consumes 20% of the total energy for your body, and more if you spend your time in mentally consuming tasks (chess players, for example, lose weight rapidly during tournaments due to the caloric consumption of deep thinking) how does this relate to cooking? Cooking "loosens" the nutrients and makes food more calorie dense, allowing us to gain more from less food, allowing us to develop our minds better. Essentially, cooking our food is primally connected to being human. Eating raw food is literally for peabrain creaturettes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cooking food
      its also why our jaws have deteriorated and require barbaric dentistry methods to maintain

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Your jaw lasts plenty long to get you to the point of childbearing and the child to become strong. "Barbaric dentistry methods" are for the extra 60 years you live, and aesthetics. Picrel, an adult omnivorous animals teeth. You also don't use your teeth as weapons. You invent knives and cooking methods to do a lot of the chewing for you.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >require barbaric dentistry
        Just avoid sugar and brush your teeth fatty

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We started with fruit, then expanded to include more plants as we occupied more of the forest floor, then eventually started eating insects, then carrion, then a few (maybe only one) members of the homosexual genus started hunting.

    Most homos were herbivores and insectivores, some were opportunistic meat eaters, and as far as we know one (us, excluding homosexual Sapiens Neanderthalis who are also kind-of us) started hunting.

    Eating meat is fine, some cultures manage to make it a mainstay, but for most people a healthy diet ought to be rich in plants.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      homosexual erectus certainly hunted.

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