I feel like lifting has screwed up my frame of reference, I have no idea what qualifies as "heavy" anymore.

I feel like lifting has screwed up my frame of reference, I have no idea what qualifies as "heavy" anymore. There's a thread up right now where a guy says he could only deadlift 150 lbs and my gut reaction was that seemed crazy, surely any able-bodied adult can deadlift at least 150 lbs. But can they? That just seems so unbelievably weak to me now, but I can't tell if lifting has just warped my perspective.

I don't even know what I could deadlift before I started training because I didn't train deadlift at first. I started with two adjustable 52.5 lb dumbbells and I remember pushing that box up the stairs. It seemed pretty heavy but it was only 110 lbs. I'm pretty sure I could still have picked them both up without any serious trouble, and with proper form and a barbell a 150 lb single couldn't have been hard. What is true untrained baseline deadlift? What could you guys deadlift day one?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is different, my girlfriend for example is 160cms and weighs about 46kg. Let me just say she can't pick up anything moderately heavy. Obviously she is a woman but genetically speaking her maximum ceiling to lift is pretty low compared to woman who is 5'11, broader build, same could be said for plenty of men compared to other men.
    Really is why long term you just have to focus on pushing yourself and not compare yourself too much to others.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not really worried about comparisons. I'm happy with my lifts even if they aren't that impressive. I'm just curious if it's really normal to not be able to lift >150 lbs. What do normies consider heavy?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'd say 150 lbs as a true one rep max is still pretty low even for someone's first day at the gym, unless the person weighs less than 150 lbs. But it's generally a good idea to start around that weight regardless, just to practice good deadlifting form. Moving up quickly then, of course.

        A good first day deadlift is anything above bodyweight.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I took my gf to the gym to do proper lifting for the first time and her deadlift 1rm is 70kg. She's not totally untrained, she was an Irish dancer and is a base in a cheer team, and did machine stuff at the gym before.

        I'd expect an untrained man of average size to be able to deadlift close to 2pl8. When I started lifting my max was 130kg (I nearly got 3pl8 but didn't have the grip) but I'm 6'3 and was 90kg at the time, plus I had 6-7 years of playing rugby

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/b6qZWlC.jpg

          I feel like lifting has screwed up my frame of reference, I have no idea what qualifies as "heavy" anymore. There's a thread up right now where a guy says he could only deadlift 150 lbs and my gut reaction was that seemed crazy, surely any able-bodied adult can deadlift at least 150 lbs. But can they? That just seems so unbelievably weak to me now, but I can't tell if lifting has just warped my perspective.

          I don't even know what I could deadlift before I started training because I didn't train deadlift at first. I started with two adjustable 52.5 lb dumbbells and I remember pushing that box up the stairs. It seemed pretty heavy but it was only 110 lbs. I'm pretty sure I could still have picked them both up without any serious trouble, and with proper form and a barbell a 150 lb single couldn't have been hard. What is true untrained baseline deadlift? What could you guys deadlift day one?

          yeah for the deadlift 2pl8 seems like a good starting point for most males
          basing it off my experience when i was a scrawny, genuinely skeletal, never-played sports gamer at 5'11 60kg an was able to grind out just over 2pl8 in the first few sessions lifting
          something like in kg 40/60/80/100 is reasonable for most dyel kids starting out tbqh

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'd say most beginners can't squat 80kg, the vast majority can't squat properly at all

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Zero percent of skinny dyel kids can bench one plate on their first week, nor ohp 40 kg

              like i say, I'm just basing it off my personal experience as a very weak child at the time, I find it pretty hard to imagine GROWN men to be weaker than this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Zero percent of skinny dyel kids can bench one plate on their first week, nor ohp 40 kg

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is she hot?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no and neither am I

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    and by moderately heavy im not even talking about weights i mean like everyday items lol.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A fella working a non-physical job and never having been to the gym would probably struggle with 150.
    Now, if said fella consistently deadlifted for a month and still couldn't lift 150, if not more, that would be a real problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Now, if said fella consistently deadlifted for a month and still couldn't lift 150, if not more, that would be a real problem.
      A much bigger problem would be if he read this and then felt compelled to use bad form to be able to life the weight.

      Take your time bros.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >NOT LE HECKIN BAD FORM

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Enjoy your herniated disk retard

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was like you before I ended up in the hospital. Learn proper form while you still can.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fine, then with the exception of dudes who weight 130 or less soaking wet. Happy now?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He was obviously memeing.
    Completely untrained adult males can diddly 1.3*bodyweight and after only a couple months it's 1.7*bodyweight...this is average.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I told my cardiologist that I was doing weightlifting for exercise instead of light cardio like they had recommended and they asked how much weight and I said I'd warm up on bench at 50-60kgs then slowly move up to 80-100kgs depending on how I was feeling that day while taking long breaks between sets for all my exercises so my lungs can recover
    they were shocked and thought it'd be more like 3-5kgs "weightlifting"

    normal peoples perception of weight is warped, people think 20kg boxes are heavy that require care and strict form to move them

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      15kg boxes require warning labels and 2 retail workers to move.
      I genuinely used to think that was the lower limit of heavy, until I started lifting.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Non lifters have the opposite -- I showed a 1pl8 deadlift as a demo to some friends and got the comment "Shouldn't you warm up first?"

    The first time I started deadlifting I'd already gone over 2pl8 for bent-over row, so was happy about back and grip strength to add deads to the repetoire, and start with 2pl8.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    does it really matter? just lift as much as you can and others do the same
    what constitues heavy is in the eye of the person seeing it
    in most normie gyms nobody even squats like 3 plates yet here it seems to be the lower refernce for an advanced beginner lifter like 1-2 years in or so

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when I started I couldn’t bench the bar and used the tiny fixed barbells to do shoulder press so I try to remember that. I remember looking at guys pressing the 16kgs and thinking they looked like the big dumbells because of the jump in size. working my way up to 10kg lol. Now obviously 16kg DB is fucking nothing. Remain humble and always keep pushing forward. Those who are weak do not realise they are weak. They aren’t necessarily that way because they are pathetic and lazy. They just don’t even know exactly how weak they are. They have no frame of reference for what their bodies are capable of with little effort. You don’t know what weak is, they don’t know what heavy is. They don’t know actual form for a single exercise. They don’t know what tensing some of their muscles feels like because they’ve never had enough muscle mass to do it. The more popular lifting becomes the better. Don’t mock the weak

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based and chad

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Too generic of a question to ask, but the first time I deadlifted ever I pulled 100kg for a couple of reps and I have reasons to believe my genetics for strength sucks in general. I think any adult male, untrained, can pull at the very least his bodyweight, but 100kg should be doable for every male too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bruh my first deadlift for reps was 40kg and I started benching with the bar

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am for all intents and purposes untrained (once or twice a year I will lift a few times a week for a few weeks, but lose any increases by the next time), and this was one of the few times I deadlifted.
    I have only done deadlifts a few times because I’m afraid they will give me a stroke. I know this is irrational but I still won’t do them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bro I have deadlifted after shooting meth and also while in heroin withdrawal, both of which severely raise your blood pressure, and I've never been close to risking a stroke, you're not gonna fucking stroke out pulling 1pl8

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Watch these types of videos if you want an idea of what is heavy for normies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My God that video is so damn loud.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Any deadlift above 2 plates is heavy by normie standards.

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