I fricking hate these and I feel like I'm not hitting the rear delt with them. What can I replace these with?

I fricking hate these and I feel like I'm not hitting the rear delt with them. What can I replace these with? Face pulls?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    works for my machine

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Row or fly laying on an incline bench

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If ur at a home gym, just lay ur forehead over a table while bent over.also

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also slow down the negative

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do them bent over, not seated.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    try adding an external rotation at the top, like you're making a Y with your arms

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rotate your hands in so the dbs are lined up (pronated grip instead of neutral). Saw mentzer doing it this way and tried it made a huge differnce in where I actually felt it.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Reverse pec-deck
    >Powell raise
    >Snatch/wide grip rows
    Honestly you can skip RD isolation if you do alot of back work.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Honestly you can skip RD isolation if you do alot of back work.
      bs, none of those does rear delt, it's all traps and bicep tendinitis

      >Face pulls?
      They work rear delts very well. Example 4x15 nearing failure on last set.

      >They work rear delts very well.
      they don't it's anterior delt entirely lol

      rear delt has BEEN SOLVED:

      >rear delt
      but it has been solved, 8th minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozZKx9yC24E&pp=ygUPdGhpcyAxMDAlIHdvcmtz

      >I fricking hate these
      everybody does because it's garbage - muscle can't contract because it's rubbing on bone, also impingement if u go high enough without swinging to feel anything in delt
      [...]
      >Also slow down the negative
      no it's garbage
      [...]
      >Do them bent over, not seated.
      doesn't matter - it's garbage
      [...]
      backwards raise, rows do nothing but shorten lat and frick up bicep tendon, DO NOT ROW other than for warmup, flies impinge and/or do only anterior delt (do a number on it i mean - it's fricked up from benching and dipping already)
      flies, reverse pec dec - useless, u r never getting to rear delt that way and forget about medial delt

      >but it has been solved, 8th minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozZKx9yC24E&pp=ygUPdGhpcyAxMDAlIHdvcmtz [Embed]
      get on all 4, grab db and move it along body up behind u with weight resting entirely on trike (no bicep involvement, pinky up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they don't it's anterior delt entirely lol
        What do you think a face pull is?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          another anterior delt masacrator, just like bench curls, ohp, dip, lat raises, pushups of all sorts, planks also, what else flies, also flies

          Bot schizo post body

          >Bot schizo post body
          delete urself b***h, u r no fun

          >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozZKx9yC24E&pp=ygUPdGhpcyAxMDAlIHdvcmtz
          one thing he didn't cover was the face pulls - how effective or ineffective are they compared to the other exercises he showed?

          >one thing he didn't cover was the face pulls - how effective or ineffective are they compared to the other exercises he showed?
          honey bot bot, don't care one bit about this bloated moron nor what he says, it's just convenient to link

          it's easy, do facepull, unilaterally till u can't with one hand and do those back raises until u can't with other hand - next day will tell which is which, facepull suffers from exactly same fate as lat raises, it's just yet another anterior delt stupidity

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >another anterior delt masacrator, just like bench curls, ohp, dip, lat raises, pushups of all sorts, planks also, what else flies, also flies
            Show me where in the anterior deltoid face pulls touched you.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Face pulls?
    They work rear delts very well. Example 4x15 nearing failure on last set.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They suck. Do them on a machine. Also you dont really need to isolate your rear delt if youre rowing enough tbh

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bent over rows, ohp and cable/db raises are all you need

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wide grip rows
    powell raises

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Full rom Chinups (extend fully at bottom, no partials) really stretch out my rear delts. Pullups might work too, but the humerus twisting really emphasizes rear delts, I think. And it is a full body, compound movememnt, so I think it has greater growth potential, unles youre frauding. Isolation exercises dont really work for hypertrophy unless youre frauding.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if theres a fly machine I do rear flys on those

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cable cross-body diagonal rear delt flys. The only rear delt movement you will ever need. Do one at a time and reach all the way across the body so that your arm is touching your chin to get a really really deep stretch. Reach further up than the guy in the video and keep your arm as close to your body as possible while going up at a 45 degree angle. Add a slight bend in the elbow to limit tricep involvement

    https://youtube.com/shorts/F_TlR6MUEjU

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Swing a sledgehammer.

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