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I got IST but in my mind I'm still a beta? Any lifts for this?

A girl I was seeing left me because I didn't satisfy her sexually. She wanted me to choke her and pull her hair but I couldn't. I want to love women not hurt them.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to love women not hurt them
    Sadly its not about men ever. Do you want them to love you? You have to choke them and pull their hair.
    At least thats my experience.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's everyone's first experience with women. You were raised to respect them and shit, and once you get intimate with them they ask you to beat them. It's scary at first but eventually you'll get used to it. I know of no women who are not like this. And you also have to read their minds when they want to get slapped across the face, because if you read the signs wrong you go to jail. But if that's what she wanted and you miss your chance, then she's going to leave you.
      Getting a girl is one thing, but keeping her is a whole different game is all I'm saying.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to love women not hurt them.
    Why, are you gay?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    deadlift

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a fetish for dominating failed men (traps/sissies/crossdressers/trannies/femboys etc) then after you learned to dominate them properly go back and fuck your girl with your new found sexual dominance, just like how she wants it.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women are looking for surrogate daddies these days since women don't ever get disciplined or corrected by males, ever growing up, it's an experience they crave.
    They want someone to relieve them of being in control, when you do all the rough stuff you have to realize it's not actually humiliating for her, that's a male mindset. Women want to be relieved of responsibility, being manhandled and lovingly choked around is a cathartic experience for many women that enacts their desire of being able to let go.

    tl;dr: Women are driven by anxiety and fear, being manhandled literally alleviates this by providing her a surrogate daddy experience. For her it's a moment of roleplaying where "daddy takes the wheel" and she has to do nothing but be a female.
    It's not really a hateful act, though I understand why you feel that way. Romance and "love" is a concept invented by males from a time when we had absolute and totalitarian control over the women sex.

    Also it's not humiliating for her, on the contrary women feel empowered by it. Let go of the male mindset, she is not a man that feels humiliation when on his knees.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To elaborate Romance is a justification and mental construct developed AFTER the fact that you have proven that you can release her from all her anxieties.
      Also why you need prevent yourself from getting feelings until you had sex.

      It sucks that it is this way dude, I'm like you, I wanted the romance, the love, the purity etc etc.
      But women these days are not wired like that, if they ever were. I mean think about it in the medieval age, the ideal of the romantic knight, Romeo & Juliet. But that age also promised women a complete enslavement and bondage to her husband, while not neccessary by violence a woman had her anxious state of mind permanently curtailed by religion. custom and law.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good post. There is two layers to the dynamic. Level 1 is the inherent biological craving women have for some male dominance. Layer 2 is that in our society, masculinity is so rare, that women often grow up with emasculated fathers that never sound proper bounderies for them and upheld them. This makes it so that women do not inherently crave dominance and masculinity on a biological level, they get an added level of craving for it because their father failed at being masculine. Its a double craving

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To elaborate Romance is a justification and mental construct developed AFTER the fact that you have proven that you can release her from all her anxieties.
      Also why you need prevent yourself from getting feelings until you had sex.

      It sucks that it is this way dude, I'm like you, I wanted the romance, the love, the purity etc etc.
      But women these days are not wired like that, if they ever were. I mean think about it in the medieval age, the ideal of the romantic knight, Romeo & Juliet. But that age also promised women a complete enslavement and bondage to her husband, while not neccessary by violence a woman had her anxious state of mind permanently curtailed by religion. custom and law.

      women were a mistake holy shit

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        youre the mistake for reading incel ramblings on IST and thinking it applies to all women. kys.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like a massive gay, kys.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To elaborate Romance is a justification and mental construct developed AFTER the fact that you have proven that you can release her from all her anxieties.
      Also why you need prevent yourself from getting feelings until you had sex.

      It sucks that it is this way dude, I'm like you, I wanted the romance, the love, the purity etc etc.
      But women these days are not wired like that, if they ever were. I mean think about it in the medieval age, the ideal of the romantic knight, Romeo & Juliet. But that age also promised women a complete enslavement and bondage to her husband, while not neccessary by violence a woman had her anxious state of mind permanently curtailed by religion. custom and law.

      Good post. There is two layers to the dynamic. Level 1 is the inherent biological craving women have for some male dominance. Layer 2 is that in our society, masculinity is so rare, that women often grow up with emasculated fathers that never sound proper bounderies for them and upheld them. This makes it so that women do not inherently crave dominance and masculinity on a biological level, they get an added level of craving for it because their father failed at being masculine. Its a double craving

      >look at me i read pickup artist crap and use their terminology i sounds like a philosopher i know so much about women

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      To elaborate Romance is a justification and mental construct developed AFTER the fact that you have proven that you can release her from all her anxieties.
      Also why you need prevent yourself from getting feelings until you had sex.

      It sucks that it is this way dude, I'm like you, I wanted the romance, the love, the purity etc etc.
      But women these days are not wired like that, if they ever were. I mean think about it in the medieval age, the ideal of the romantic knight, Romeo & Juliet. But that age also promised women a complete enslavement and bondage to her husband, while not neccessary by violence a woman had her anxious state of mind permanently curtailed by religion. custom and law.

      That's incredibly well put

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      >look at me i read pickup artist crap and use their terminology i sounds like a philosopher i know so much about women

      idk where he got it from but his arguments > your lack of any
      Instead of strawmanning try to prove him wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Dominate women
      >No consequences
      Literally my fetish

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow you’re literally me I’m still in love with her too even though she said it was just casual sex

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A girl I was seeing left me because I didn't satisfy her sexually.
    Know that feel brother. Although I left her because she wouldn't tell me what was wrong but I believe that's why she became so cold

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to love women not hurt them.
    It's 50/50 for me, honestly.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    find different women OP. Or fuck cute boys instead.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I got IST but in my mind I'm still a beta? Any lifts for this?
    no, lifting won't make you an alpha
    you're a beta for life, come to terms with it now and you'll be happier in the long run

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >She wanted me to choke her and pull her hair but I couldn't. I want to love women not hurt them.
    Based. You are actually becoming a beta by trying to change yourself for a woman.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if you loved her, you would give her what she needs. you don't have to really hurt her, she just wants you to be assertive and dominate her

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