I had some blood work done and got the results back that my test was only 414. How do I raise this?

I had some blood work done and got the results back that my test was only 414. How do I raise this? Doc just said get better sleep but I know this is bs.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    just inject it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the only thing that actually works.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vit D3, K2, zinc, tongkat ali, Magnesium citrate, go outside every day

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    good sleep, cold showers, eat enough carbs, less jacking off, try some natural supps, then realize youre not gonna be able to raise it much at all.
    t. 389 hopping on trt soon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck man. I could just read it off his face when I asked what I could do that there was nothing. Fucking frustrating.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Getting outside helps with test, not gonna work miracles though.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        retard when you see the doc with a poker face
        you check his bluff and raise him with
        ''well I think I'm going to get a second opinion''
        he'll ask how, like the moron he is
        just tell him you might see another doctor
        make sure to say it like you're talking to a girl about seeing someone else, wedge a knife deep into that backstabing cunt's feeling
        anyways these retards only understand money out their pockets
        losing a client is not a good look
        he might take his finger out his ass
        backtrack his lack of patient care and empathy
        and actually write you a script for that

        worse case you probably went to a doctor that isn't on a hormonal drug's marketing team's payroll, you need to find one who shills it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >worse case you probably went to a doctor that isn't on a hormonal drug's marketing team's payroll, you need to find one who shills it
          IST will literally advocate for shill doctors in the pocket of ~~*big pharma*~~ if it means they get to keep using their Special Hormonal Concoctions. Roiders are the most hypocritical drug addicts in the world.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not advocating for shit gay
            learn how to argument without resorting to contrapoints you're literally pulling out your ass
            if anything I'm just taking a very pragmatic and realistic approach into getting the medical care and services you need in this dystopian nightmare
            fucking build yourself some intellectual decency you dim witted retard
            it takes an idealist like you to dream up whole narratives, and a realist like me to come up with actual solutions. Fuck you gay.

            Testosterone is a natural hormone which men need just as much as women need oestrogen supplementation post menopause. If anything you are taking a very sexist, systemically oppressive take on medical gender discrimination here by conflating compliance with implicit rules, and consent.
            Oof little retard look who's hypocritical now...
            Also I'm natty and I could care less of a rat's ass about who uses or does not use steroids...but I guess that's just me...somebody who does not claim to have any control or coercion over people's bodies...unlike you, clearly.

            Tell me again what's your stance on vaccines? Oh that's right...Just get the fuck out of here and go back to plebbit where that kind of rhetoric passes as smart.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lmao only on IST you can get this sort of advice

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >testlets actually use this board

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its infested with them. Just look at this low test thread

        [...]

        for example. Crammed full of angsty, closet gay, low test soi boys.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have 340 and there's 0 chance of getting TRT where I live at these levels

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just UGL it and fuck the Man.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where do you live?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >my test was only 414

        >I have 340

        [...]
        390 here, same shit they won’t prescribe. I’m about to buy underground today. Found a good place to find reputable sources. Planning to buy 3 years worth of test, an AI just in case, and PCT shit just in case too. I’m at the point I don’t care about muh natty anymore I can’t keep living like this.

        >390 here,

        Testosterone fluctuates wildly throughout the day and from day to day you idiots. One blood test is totally meaningless, you need several blood tests taken over a month or two.

        I raised mine from 450~ to 750~ in 4 years. The most significant change was eating less go..slop and drinking well water instead of tap.

        >I raised mine from 450~ to 750~ in 4 years.
        Testosterone can go from 450 to 750 in a couple of hours or from one day to the next for no reason whatsoever.

        Also you are not taking into account how sensitive your androgen receptors are. You could have two guys, one guy with 300 ng/dl and the other 900 ng/dl and the 300 guy gets the same effect and benefits as the 900 guy because his androgen receptors are more responsive to testosterone.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I have 340 and there's 0 chance of getting TRT where I live at these levels

      390 here, same shit they won’t prescribe. I’m about to buy underground today. Found a good place to find reputable sources. Planning to buy 3 years worth of test, an AI just in case, and PCT shit just in case too. I’m at the point I don’t care about muh natty anymore I can’t keep living like this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Post the place on a vpn. I want to juice too but idk where to buy from.

        t. Amerifat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >eat enough carbs,
      based retard. you totally make hormones out of carbs and not fats

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw i have 1183

    I still laugh about it because the doctor said "that's quite high for a caucasian"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what? caucasians have lower test?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're getting regular exercise and still have low test you just got unlucky genetically.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sleeping well, not having a high amount of bodyfat and having more muscle are the only non-meme answers. Or injecting.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Aside from what's already mentioned, Tongkat Ali 10% and Fadogia Agrestis are both proven to raise test, as much as 200pts each

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Good sleep
    > Reduce fat
    > Eat (complex) carbs
    > No alcohol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >testosterone, a steroid molecule, is made from fat
      >anon advises to eat less fat and more carbs
      Can you not be a retard? Diet-wise, one should eat a ton of saturated fat and cholesterol. No I don't mean in excess, I mean relative to other sources of fat like vegetable oils (which should always be avoided).

      Complex carbs are a scam, because grains are a shit food source. Literally the worst source of nutrients. Just eat fruit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ketards must go back to their homeland

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is your reading comprehension that bad or do you just not know what "keto" means?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Fat people and Ketards have low test

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well if that's true, it's good I didn't recommend to become obese or do keto. Also are you this person

          Ketards must go back to their homeland

          ?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pointless numbers without SHBG measurement

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BOOBA BOOBA BOOBA SEX SEX SEX OOOOOOH THOSE BOOBAS OOOOOOOOOH SEX OOOOOOH

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cycle jacking off as much as you can and then slowing it down on a weekly or bi-weekly basis, you're body should up the production.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I raised mine from 450~ to 750~ in 4 years. The most significant change was eating less go..slop and drinking well water instead of tap.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn’t there some kind of study where they found that dudes who drink whiskey and smoke cigarettes had higher test?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Alcohol definitely tanks your testosterone, but nicotine boosts it. Also, epidemiology is worthless trash and a fake science.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that total test is meaningless without SHBG measurement.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >face of baby
    >tits of mommy
    no one can defeat the azn booba gf. peak woman

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >face
      You have no idea what her face looks like because she's clearly wearing a ton of makeup.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >doctor goes to school for a decade to learn how to help people be healthy
    >he tries to help patient(you) understand their less than ideal situation
    >outright refuse his years of expertise in favor of some shit you googled in 2 minutes that supports your agenda

    You're retarded.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A modern healthcare system that is ran more-like a business and lead by outdated seniors is even more retarded

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you over estimate most doctors' willingness to help patients with just minute problems
      oh you have slightly below average test? well that's not really consequential so i'm not gonna do shit

      that's literally the least cynical take i could muster

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spoken like someone who has no idea how medical school or doctor training works. How long do you think a family physician spends on the causes of testosterone fluctuation during his training?

      I'll give you a hint: much less than training on the issues that 99% of people actually come in for.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I went the clinic route. The only thing I hate is the HCG shortage. I’ll start kisspeptine sometime this week but I doubt it will work the same. Hopefully hcg comes back soon but not likely as pharmacies can’t or won’t pay for the ability to formulate it anymore. The clinic way is super overpriced but I don’t have to worry as much about some “gift giver” throwing his aids blood in the cypionate. If you are that worried and wanting to be “optimized” (aka slower results, slowerish sides) it is probably the best option for you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hcg sucks anyways. Spikes e2 and makes you need AI even on TRT doses. My balls stopped shrinking a couple weeks after dropping hcg. I haven't taken it in like 2 years now. It can be useful if you're trying to have a kid and are struggling, but many people don't have issue having kids on TRT.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Does HCG make your dick and balls bigger permanently? Does it also permanently increase testosterone?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No and no. It just mimics LH and FSH when they're suppressed by exogenous steroids. And makes you pop hot on pregnancy tests.

          It can cause suppression too. Clears fairly quickly and recovery is okay with pct

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yes. There have been experiments done on this, it's nearly an inch of gains in those with small penises.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Also here is a hint for all the people complaining about your PCP. Medicine is becoming more stratified and ~~*specialized*~~. And those are more money echos than poison echos but any echo is going to have a rather large mix. Basically too many people are passing to become primaries and that healthcare is getting cheaper slowly. However a specialist requires more training (supposedly) and can cost more. In other words your pcp is getting a weaker voice every day and they are trying move your health into no less than three doctors but upwards of five or six. And while consultation and second opinions can help, this is more Ponzi and less counsel of elders.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >he posts total test without SHBG reading
    Into the trash

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get better sleep. That's one of the best ways. After that, not drinking, being fairly physically active and getting plenty of sun, and eating a balanced diet.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ice balls double the test

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any actual noticeable difference between say 350 vs 500 vs 750ng/dL?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Completely meaningless numbers because your body isn't just an input -> output single-digit algorithm.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I’m just curious to know from anecdotal experience, for someone who wasn’t completely testosterone depleted (350), how much they had to increase to before they noticed a difference.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I’ve gained 1000 after 1 month of being on trt. I had a placebo day at the start and then I continued being tired and my lifts haven’t gotten much better but I am getting the lookism benefits. Body is slowly gaining recomping but strength is still staying low end but I’m not eating enough for strength gains. Voice is cracking like puberty and some days a deeper voice comes from my throat. However this week has seen the acne start. I never had a problem with stamina for workouts, but the rest of my day to day I’m still a tired zombie and seem to be having a harder time making it to the workout. Once I’m going I’m fine, but getting there is the hardest part. I’m hoping month two brings the promised vitality.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you on TRT, which none of your ancestors were on? Do you have a birth defect or something?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yes actually. I had unexplained seizures in my formative years. Doctors just threw medications at me because burger. Between the extra weight gain on top of being a proto hambeast a lot of the medication side effects killed my normal puberty path. Balls and dick aren’t micro but they aren’t exactly manly either. I also have trouble pair bonding, I have one person who I can call friend. Seizures did eventually clear up but was never a definitive verdict on the cause. After being gimped almost my entire life I said screw it and got ahold of one of the telemed mens clinics. Insurance doesn’t pay for it and this is a last ditch effort before I off myself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Damn anon, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope the TRT helps, but don't forget that testosterone isn't the only molecule that affects things in your body. I'd give better, more specific advice, but it sounds like you have a lot going on and I don't know what would help.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I’m hoping the kisspeptine has more effect but if my receptors are already damaged from the previous medications I’m not sure if it will fire as intended. But at this point I’m already a science experiment so might as well give it a go.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good luck anon

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks dude

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                did trt make your dick bigger?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It has been a month. No, but morning wood, or stump in my case, has happened for the first time in a long time but it isn’t every morning. They say gel has shown to help some grow but they have me on injections. Guess I could try shooting it at the base but I’ll leave that to another anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Boy you are in for a hard wakening..

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Be a man and don't shove needles in your ass out of insecurity

    Good technique for saving money

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry about it. High test makes you attracted to the overweight single mom body type. Which is fine from a pure looks perspective but those relationships rarely result in two happy people.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That is not BS. Optimizing your circadian rhythm is the single best thing you can do for natural testosterone levels. Regardless, 414 is perfectly adequate for you to surpass 99.99 percent of humanity in strength and jackedness.

    Put in the work and sleep well.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      B-but IST told me I need to have my test at 20,000 and be 7ft tall to have a shot at life.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP you should use the unit of measurement for reference. I assume it's ng/dL?

    I checked my test levels when I was 33yo, the results were 26nmol/L, or about 750 ng/dl. Now that I'm 36yo, I again checked and the result was 853 ng/dl. My point is, there's variance, and hence it might be even higher at some older point in your life.

    However, my free test was only 400pmol/l, because of high SHBG levels, which weren't even recorded the last time.

    So a test level of 414 is nothing to worry about as it's not alarmingly low by itself, and it doesn't even say how much free test you have without your SHBG level. If you aren't feeling like shit, don't worry about it. Check your levels (including SHBG) every now and then for future reference, in case you'd at some point actually need TRT.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can you get cheap home test tests that actually work? Like the dna ones

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How do I raise this?
    Sprints

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do you go from that to this? Homey looking minority probably thought she would be the next Cindy Crawford if she took the call. Unironically really fucking sad! The perfection is in the imperfection.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that really the same girl? Effin tragic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that really the same girl? Effin tragic.

      Have you two ever had a girlfriend before? Can't you see that you are not seeing her skin or skull structure in either picture? She can look like anything she wants to look like.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Her name is Xena Kai and she absolutely bogged herself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I personally think she looks way better.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've been dating a girl who looks exactly like this. At what point do I settle for her? I'm not thrilled about winding up with a 6/7, but on the other hand, a man needs a woman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I treated a 6.5 like shit for a year then was in love with her for years after she left me. Think long and hard about the way she loves you and if that’s something you want to give up before you dump her based on her looks

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You don't deserve those dubs or her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based and sad, she was a 10

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wtf. Why asian woman with big tits are so sexy to me, bros?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    it's probably fine. my quickest and most drastic masculinization/muscle building event was on ~260 ng/dl T. might just mean you have good absorption and it isn't being stored in blood very long before being absorbed by your androgen receptors. right now my T is like 650 ng/dl though so diet + zinc +d3 probably help. mostly diet and exercise.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rub your balls on receipt paper

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    T is made from cholesterol, so eat more cholesterol. You'll want to also eat enough vitamin C, D (you can also get this from the sun) and Vitamin A. Cold showers will only do the opposite because of the cortisol spike. Focus on lowering cortisol and cutting out endocrine disruptors

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That's actually pretty sound advice, because stress can be hugely detrimental to testosterone levels. When you are stressed your body produces cortisol instead of testosterone, look up pregnenolone cortisol steal.

    Sleep deprivation increases your cortisol and stress hormones a lot. It also throws a lot of your hormones out of whack because your brain is essentially in charge of many hormones including testosterone. You want to take care of your brain and get plenty of sleep. Listen to your doctor.

    I think trying to shortcut a healthy lifestyle with supplements and trt is reckless and stupid. But I understand, everyone wants a quick and easy fix instead of hearing the truth.

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