I just realized that even though I've not lifted for a year I haven't a lost any muscle at all.

I just realized that even though I've not lifted for a year I haven't a lost any muscle at all. I literally have the same physique I had in mid 2023. You frickers told me if I stopped lifting for a week my body would shrivel into itself and I would become a stick figure

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped lifting when I sold my car and started walking to work, wanting to focus on getting lean.
    Same experience, I probably have lost maybe a bit, but I'm still noticably large to the point people just assume I live in the gym (I'm casino royale mode, so a laughing stock to the mentally ill morons on here but a demigod by normie standards)
    Makes it all the more satisfying to see the seethe/admiration when I say I don't go to the gym.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did you stop lifting?

      https://i.imgur.com/0i8UBTd.jpeg

      I just realized that even though I've not lifted for a year I haven't a lost any muscle at all. I literally have the same physique I had in mid 2023. You frickers told me if I stopped lifting for a week my body would shrivel into itself and I would become a stick figure

      You have definitely lost some, but working out definitely increases the amount your body default holds onto.
      Men who usrd to be bodybuilders or weightlifters still have huge arms years later, not as big as their heyday, but still big.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >casino royal mode
      so you're on a lil test?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped lifting for 7 months and became skinny and lost all my gains

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you get ANY exercise though?
      I still hike everywhere so I still get a lot of physical strain and stimulation.
      If you're a cargay who drives everywhere and has a sedentary job, then yeah, you're gonna lose it all.
      My upper body hasn't lost any mass because I guess I'm still telling my body that I need that mass due to my active lifestyle.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you lose strength but not muscle and the strength will be quicker to return

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about in the following situation
      >lifted religiously ages 18-22
      >stopped, didn’t lose any muscle or a ton of strength first 2 years would test strength once every 6 months and could still bench 2pl8x3 and deadlift over 3pl8x5 (used to bench 225x10 and deadlift 405x10)
      >stopped completely
      >now 28, have lost all the muscle, all the strength and have gained 90lbs of fat, probably more than 90lbs considering the LBM loss
      I’m cutting but all I’ve been doing is walking and eating healthy and less. Would it be wise for me to start lifting again too? I’m basically at super noob beginner stage again and have to start small as hell. I don’t just mean light weights, I mean I can only manage 2 maybe 3 exercises max a session. The level I’m at is something like this
      Curl 3x10
      Bench 2x10
      Lat pulldown 2x10

      And that’s pushing it. I have to build up to doing more sets again, to being able to do more like 4-5 lifts per session, and I won’t even try heavy sets low weight until I can 4x10 4-5 lifts. Like I couldn’t even walk 40 minutes 1.5 months ago I only just got to an hour and it’s making me sore as shit. I’ve been a sedentary fat moron.

      This is how I first started as a skeleton at 18 btw, the 2-3 lifts and that rep/set scheme for a few months until I could 4-5 and 4x10 except now I’m cutting and I’m confused about whether I should just worry about fat loss for now maybe start lifting as I get to a lower weight or what.
      Would I gain the muscle and strength back quickly even while cutting? Or is it counterintuitive

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how does this even happen? You witness all the benefits that come with lifting, and then you throw it all away. Depression? Kids? Or are you just good looking without having to lift, so you got complacent

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can tell you the full story to shed some light I’m sorry if this is long.
          >fat kid most of life
          >things get really bad around age 15/16, shitty family life, shitty time at school, obese, pothead and vidya addict anything to escape reality
          >try to an hero via OD
          >doesn’t work
          >decide I should try to get laid before I try that again
          >realize I need improve everything about myself if I’m even gonna have a chance at getting pussy
          >improve and fix EVERYTHING next 2 years health, no weed, no vidya, get job, take school seriously, challenge self constantly, get active and outdoors hobbies
          >lose more than 100lbs wind up rail thin
          >actually am semi good looking, also get lucky and grow to 6’2”
          >have hobbies, do well at job have some savings growing and in school with straight A’s
          >180’d everything about myself
          >go into college start lifting still kissless virgin
          >tell self all day every day “keep going and you’ll frick pussy I promise” this whole time, became delusional and believed I would get pussy if I kept growing
          >end up getting pussy at 20, frick few b***hes, date one, also end up with friends and social life for the first time
          >have all the social fulfillment and some more that I always wished I’d had as a kid
          I was starting to grow complacent, I achieved what I wanted and it wasn’t all I thought it would be. It didn’t bring me true happiness. No longer wanna hero, but miserable being fat. Then went through my first break up and started smoking weed again and gave up. It’s not that I’m just good looking so it doesn’t matter, I’m an ugly c**t when I’m fat and invisible to women, men treat me like shit and disrespect me no one takes me seriously. It’s night and day. When I’m lean I’m treated NORMAL by other men. I get mired by women actually noticed and seen without trying I even get approached by women when lean. 18-20 I only didn’t get laid because latent nerves form being fat and ugly most of my life.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            have you found what truly makes you happy yet?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sort of. As I said I no longer wanna hero, which may be because I felt not depressed while fit and I’ve seen I CAN become happy. Look into the drowning rat hope instillment experiments to understand what I mean by that. But I’ve more so recently become not depressed again and have formed goals and ideas that I’m actively working towards. A light at the end of the tunnel so to speak, things to give me purpose and work towards. Which was the issue back there. My whole purpose wasn’t just dumb but it was achieved. Pussy? Are you kidding me lmao…
              I didn’t think any further ahead than that at any point. I still don’t know what comes after these new goals but they will set me up to allow them to evolve into greater goals and continue to work on improving in life. I also re-found my passion for some of the old hobbies, a new and stronger love really. So long as I’m able to do these hobbies I’ll always have some level of happiness.
              It all starts with losing the weight for my new goals though.
              Also this is just a small benefit but I’m losing the weight not just because I have to for some of my goals, but because I’ve seen the other side and I know how much better life is and people treat you when not fat. I’m not saying it’s not deserved, I hate fat people more than anyone. But I’m saying I’m overly aware of it. The halo effect. It’s the difference between playing fallout on normal difficulty vs that extreme try hard survival bullshit where you can only save in beds and have to eat and drink to stay alive. I have no desire to stay here. I see a future for myself and I’m just not willing to stagnate further as a fat moron who hates every second of it.

              I do wish I knew if it’s more benefits to start lifting now or to wait until I’ve dropped like the first 50lbs so I can go moron mode on the weight loss right now.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what is your diet/diet habit like now though? do you keep track of calories/protein or do you just freestyle?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i maintain my long-term built physique working out once a week

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped lifting after I accidentally rejected a girl and then wasn't given a chance to apologize but simply ghosted and I wanted her (and she wanted me for years), which created this whole misunderstanding which fricked me up to this day (been 8 months) - she literally found someone else and none of this had to happen, all from just ONE fricking miscommunication, which fricks me up beyond belief

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bump

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get a grip, man, any connection so tenuous it can be severed that easily would never have lasted.
      If a girl really likes you she will "teehee" away even the most vicious of rejections more than once before moving on.
      Never commit to a girl that isn't absolutely insane about you, the man mist always hold the stronger hand.
      That's why I awlays say date at least 2 points down.
      I'm objectively a 7 so I go for 6 and unders, woth best results being 4s and 5s.
      Frick any 9 you can but for love?
      Frick up.
      Love down.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I agree to the first part but not the second. Don’t date down because all girls have problems. They might as well be hot and crazy vs ugly and crazy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop being such a pussy bro wtf?
      https://masculineprinciple.blogspot.com/
      read this itll get u right

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See

        [...]

        I liked her
        I don't want to be some womanizer fricking thots. I don't care about sex. I want a conservative wifey and she was a candidate

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you dont have to become a womanizer to absorb some of this advice dum dum, just fricking read it and internalize the parts that make sense/seem like good info to you
          you ask and beg for advice and reject it when u get it, u just want sympathy, that's super feminine and gay, stop acting like a homosexual
          >BUT I LOOOOVED HER
          she's fricking someone else rn idiot, dont worry though, every dude goes through this.. grow up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        why are you laughing?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your autistic overreaction.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm memeing but I do want tips

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ghosts you after 1(one) single misunderstanding
      >NOOO SHE WAS THE HECKIN ONE AND I BLEW IT!
      shut the frick up moron, no one cares

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me more man give me perspective
        To me, I understand her completely. I understand why she'd ghost and while I don't even consider her "the one", I just want to forgive myself because I thought I was better than this
        She wanted me for years anon, I frustrated her beyond belief on that last occasion
        She figured she deserves better than this and lowered her standards, settled for some homosexual mama's boy, and she's probably happy, at least he doesn't make her feel bad

        I feel like a loser for making a homosexual's entire life. If I call HIM a loser, what the frick am I
        How do I get over her and her shit, I never even fricking wanted her

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I never even fricking wanted her
          sure sounds like it, her living rent free in your head

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Help me

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I feel like a loser
          You sound like one too

    • 2 weeks ago
      I ignore women

      >one miscommunication and it falls apart
      believe it or not this the norm and not an anomaly

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've been told it's a red flag. If one miscommunication was all it took, she would've likely found something else eventually, and it's better for it to have happened now than before
        But for me, I feel like I understand her completely and that this would've been the case with any woman, not just her. If I wasn't ghosted after rejecting a girl who's tried to get me for years, the woman must have no self respect

        So this fricks me up majorly because it was all a mistake

        • 2 weeks ago
          I ignore women

          >this would've been the case with any woman, not just her
          I see and what does this therefore tell you about woman?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That they are based and in tune with their emotions
            As a man, you need to be emotionally conscientious. If you aren't, you're fricked.

            • 2 weeks ago
              I ignore women

              >That they are based and in tune with their emotions

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wrong.
              They are lead and live in the throws of their emotions, instead of understanding and controlling their emotions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I feel like this is more about you coming off as a loser rather than the woman.

          If you really loved this woman you would not have pissed about rejecting her for years. You would have reciprocated in an obvious way.

          That said, you will stop feeling like a loser once you realize that every DiCaprio, Pitt, Bezos and Napoleon has been cucked or blown up by women somehow. So what odds do you have?

          This doesn’t imply giving up on women, it implies not taking woman nonsense too seriously, which has been stated by every civilization every recorded.

          In other words, grab a number and sit down

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you so much for this anon. My first post in this thread was 5 hours ago and I am still in this thread so know that your thoughtful reply means a lot
            I've got no one to give me solid advice because most of my family rely on me and I couldn't ask them about this and coworkers give me varied advice but none that really give me good perspective

            >I feel like this is more about you coming off as a loser rather than the woman. If you really loved this woman you would not have pissed about rejecting her for years. You would have reciprocated in an obvious way.
            This is 100% the case because I never wanted her and even at the moment when things were fresh, I knew I ultimately didn't want her, I would've acted differently otherwise
            The problem is the feeling of being a loser, that she's moved on and that I'll probably be where I am still for years to come as she moves ahead in life

            I need to stop giving a damn about her so I can go back to focusing on myself, because that is the only way productive things happen, and yet I've started dedicating so much of my time to her and it's fricking me up..how do I stop?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >misunderstanding
      >miscommunication
      100% you've overreacted or acted like a little b***h. Learn from this instead of staying mad months later. Once you've accepted you've acted like a homosexual, then and only then you can learn from it and get a better gf and act in a non-moronic way.

      How I know this: you can't even admit what you did anonymously because you know you gonna get judged.

      How I know you fear this: you judge yourself. Why a man judges himself? He behaved in an unmanly way.

      >a chance to apologize
      Pro tip: apologizing would just tank whatever was left of it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I did not overreact. She lost interest, and I wanted to get it back. She began ghosting me and I simply wanted to see her again.
        I could've just left her at the rejection I gave her, but I did not know, and had I known, I wouldn't have done it. It was a mistake that I wanted to fix, and I thought it was manly to try fix it, rather than just not try even though I wanted to.
        She was just over it and didn't want to see me anymore
        >Pro tip: apologizing would just tank whatever was left of it.
        By apologizing I was obviously not talking about groveling but just clearing things up

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so you didnt want her, then rejected her and now shes no longer orbiting you youre seething?
          are you a fricking woman anon, grow the frick up

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did not know she wanted me, and I rejected her accidentally. It was when she took my movement as a rejection, that I realized she was trying to get close, and I realized she had been interested in me for years, and it fricked me up
            I thought, as a man, if I wanted her, I should at least try, but she was over me at that point and it was too late, that's why I haven't been able to get over it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              so you were never interested, but as soon as pussy access was hinted at you suddenly want her. god youre pathetic, kinda painful to read

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She just liked the idea of you, there was no possibility where it became a reality.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You think so? What makes you say that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She settled for a homosexual who's not as good looking and who lived with his parents until mid 30s. I'm actually successful, look better, funny and social. I just made her feel pathetic and like a fool. I've been coping ever since

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm actually successful, look better, funny and social
          Meanwhile she's gagging on his wiener and you're crying on IST lmao @ ur life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She doesnt do stuff like that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's the girls you'd think wouldn't that would

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You need to use your words. Girls can't read your mind. Have you thought about writing a letter?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fricked me up to this day
      >been 8 months
      homie man up, it's been 8 months, not 18 years, get a fricking grip, are you 19?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    read the fricking blog you idiot, you're a useless moron that dwells on his mistakes and can't move on from anything, u have no motion and you're always waiting for other ppl to solve your problems for you, stop being so pathetic.. what are u expecting from people on IST? all we can give you is information. do you expect a guardian angel to swoop down and turn u into chad? you're less than a man, you're a wounded boy with no sense of pride.. get a life

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I solve my problems, I just couldn't solve this
      I could move on, but the "what ifs" hold me back
      I am not going to let one bad experience put me on a path to modify my entire life philosophy
      She is not worth that much
      All I would like is just some insight, not some pamphlet on "how to be" written by fricking homosexuals like "Rollo Tomassi"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the insight is in the blog. my insight is that you're a weepy pathetic mess and u need to get real STAT. wasting 3 years on a single woman, you're a time waster... hesitation marks weakness in a man.. accept the information ppl give you instead of crying about it all day.. you're wasting time right now, usual habits... juts go frick off back to adv and talk to your discord buddies.. it's where u belong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wasting time
          I can relate to this hard. The past months have felt like a time warp and I've been trying to get over it but I haven't been able to
          I've become passive and shit, and all I've been thinking about is *how to get over her*
          I do not want her. I want to forgive myself. I don't want to feel like I'm a loser who failed
          What do I tell myself?

          Give me insight without posting a homosexual's blogpost on "how to be a man". Understand that such authors learned "what makes a man" at age like 35 and are now giddy "to teach others" like homosexuals

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "passive" is relative btw

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I havent lifted in 6 months and have dropped 20 lbs

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That’s because you didn’t have any muscle to begin with. You couldn’t even bench 225 at your peak, you started untrained and became novice at your peak. For people who DO train, even two weeks off will be noticeable due to empty glycogen reserves.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I lost an inch on my arms, half the size of my chest and close to 6kg overall in 2 weeks of not lifting and eating properly.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noob/DYEL gains don't go away, it takes a very long time. As long as you do not get too fat your noob gains will stay

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Welp, its over

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >moron learns that people are different & IST is full of shit advice
    Wow

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you probably had a shit body when you were lifting, and have managed to maintain your shit body even without lifting
    this seems to indicate that you were wasting your time in the gym
    post physique?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You went from 0 muscle to 0 muscle good job on not losing any tho

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever told you that lied to you.
    You only lose 1-2% per month of your mass and that's if you're extremely inactive.
    As long as you get .5g/lb of protein and are still active you'll lose somewhere around .25% per month.
    So after a year yeah, you've barely lost anything.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped lifting for 6 years and I never reverted back completely to my pre-lifting body

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is because you've built real muscle. Pumps can last workout to workout, so you think you built muscle but it's just inflammation from being a weak piece of shit. This is what I gather from the piece of shit advice I read here. I hope it helped. Real men dont lose muscle.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as you consume enough protein and calories to maintain your body has no need to break muscle tissue down for energy.

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