>don’t you get stronger doing any routine
If your routine says 3x10 lat pulldown and you’ve been a video game nerd all your life and you have to do the lat pulldown with like 25 pounds, no you’re not not going to get much strength from that.
because most of the population is too weak to get good results from a proper bodybuilder routine right off the bat. you ever wonder why you constantly see guys at the gym doing cable machines with like 10 pounds and making no gains? Some of them are just morons fricking around doing random shit, but some of them are trying to do a proper bodybuilding routine without the baseline of strength necessary
However I do think this board should start recommending more upper body focused strength routines to noobs like GZCLP. the starting squat worship is too much. GZCLP is about 65% upper body and 35% lower. Starting strength is mostly lower
I've been shilling stating strength for 8-12 weeks and then reddit ppl for 5 days a week instead of 6 for like, months now. I unironically believe this is the best path for absolute untrained beginners and others. If you're already a construction worker or some shit and want to look good, great, get on reddit ppl or some other beginner body building program. But SS + reddit ppl is a great easy to learn and do program that anyone at almost any gym can do for us to 24 weeks and get great strength gains, basically to the limits of their noob gains, and by the end they'll know whether they want to continue with a PL routine or continue on body building.
Up to 24 weeks*
This also gives people who aren't used to going to the gym a pretty good long term plan during and after the grind of going to the gym at the very beginning. By the end of SS you'll probably be wanting to go to the gym 5 days a week and feel like 3 is too little.
What makes you think ss would make you less attractive? You know you don't have to do gomad or even bulk just because it's starting strength right? Stupid uneducated Black person. This is why you and billions of other zoomers spin their wheels in the gym for months and never get anywhere.
I'm a frogpoaster. I'm a racist Italian Canadian. My grandfather fought for the fascists. I used to have an apartment that would overlook the Montreal Holocaust Museum. I would have my cigar and espresso every morning on my balcony and laugh like a hyena while overlooking the view. Peterson is a gay.
you weasly coward! Do you think Rippetoe was a hero just because he was not anonymous? Do you know how many young men his training and dietary advice sullied you bloody dementor!?
I still don't get how people divide bodybuilding and strength training. I did a powershitter routine and just didn't do a moronic calorie surplus and I looked pretty good after my cut. OHP/Bench/Squats/Deadlift gives you a nice chest, big shoulders, decent back. Just add in chins and do some random ab stuff and it's a perfectly good program for aesthetics. Unless I'm misunderstanding what people mean by "powershitter" here?
Because you get the strength to build aesthetics first
don't you get stronger doing any routine
but that's literally the path 95% of lifters want
>don’t you get stronger doing any routine
If your routine says 3x10 lat pulldown and you’ve been a video game nerd all your life and you have to do the lat pulldown with like 25 pounds, no you’re not not going to get much strength from that.
why not? isn't gaining strength about progressive overload. why does that only occur if you lift heavier w. less reps than lighting with more?
i just don't get why doing a powerlifting routine is more effective for bodybuilding than doing a bodybuilding routine
noob gains don't last forever brah
IST gives people bad financial advice on purpose, people should do enough of their own research to know when they're being trolled.
Because most people who start lifting to look good for girls are moronic, and we're just steering them on a better path.
Post current weight, height, body, and previous lifting experience and I'll recommend a routine
Because most of them are FAT as frick, so they pretend to be powerlifters as a way of coping
Yep
because most of the population is too weak to get good results from a proper bodybuilder routine right off the bat. you ever wonder why you constantly see guys at the gym doing cable machines with like 10 pounds and making no gains? Some of them are just morons fricking around doing random shit, but some of them are trying to do a proper bodybuilding routine without the baseline of strength necessary
However I do think this board should start recommending more upper body focused strength routines to noobs like GZCLP. the starting squat worship is too much. GZCLP is about 65% upper body and 35% lower. Starting strength is mostly lower
I've been shilling stating strength for 8-12 weeks and then reddit ppl for 5 days a week instead of 6 for like, months now. I unironically believe this is the best path for absolute untrained beginners and others. If you're already a construction worker or some shit and want to look good, great, get on reddit ppl or some other beginner body building program. But SS + reddit ppl is a great easy to learn and do program that anyone at almost any gym can do for us to 24 weeks and get great strength gains, basically to the limits of their noob gains, and by the end they'll know whether they want to continue with a PL routine or continue on body building.
Up to 24 weeks*
This also gives people who aren't used to going to the gym a pretty good long term plan during and after the grind of going to the gym at the very beginning. By the end of SS you'll probably be wanting to go to the gym 5 days a week and feel like 3 is too little.
or you'll give up as you notice women find you less attractive
What makes you think ss would make you less attractive? You know you don't have to do gomad or even bulk just because it's starting strength right? Stupid uneducated Black person. This is why you and billions of other zoomers spin their wheels in the gym for months and never get anywhere.
I'd frick that breakfast
I'm a frogpoaster. I'm a racist Italian Canadian. My grandfather fought for the fascists. I used to have an apartment that would overlook the Montreal Holocaust Museum. I would have my cigar and espresso every morning on my balcony and laugh like a hyena while overlooking the view. Peterson is a gay.
arrogant anonymous troll demon, find another site to sully, evil coward
you weasly coward! Do you think Rippetoe was a hero just because he was not anonymous? Do you know how many young men his training and dietary advice sullied you bloody dementor!?
hip drahve
the frick is peterson philosophy anyway ?
I thought he was social darwinist
anti machiavellian liberalism
IST is a good place to get a bullshit filter.
If you lurk for long enough, you don't see the health posts, it's all troll posts and memes.
Really is amazing how much of a masculinity crisis there is in America when young adults and teenagers actually turned to that homosexual for advice
I still don't get how people divide bodybuilding and strength training. I did a powershitter routine and just didn't do a moronic calorie surplus and I looked pretty good after my cut. OHP/Bench/Squats/Deadlift gives you a nice chest, big shoulders, decent back. Just add in chins and do some random ab stuff and it's a perfectly good program for aesthetics. Unless I'm misunderstanding what people mean by "powershitter" here?