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>No he didn’t do hair transplant
>2years finasteride +3months minox+dermarolling
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>No he didn’t do hair transplant
>2years finasteride +3months minox+dermarolling
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rule 1
mental illness
>get a tan even if you have to lose a lamp
>borrow money
>dont sleep
Please tell me this is satire.
>borrow money
80s are over boomer. with negative interest rates you will stay poor if you try to safe instead of taking out a loan. Blame ((central banking)) on this
those are the quotes from an absolute hustla who was at one point the richest person in the world in his times
non makers dont will NEVER be able to comprehend
BASED
kek
Now that's what I call Greek
It doesn’t moron, you got memed into going bald
It doesn't for most people. Doesn't cause gyno for most people. Suppressing androgens can cause these effects if you're unlucky though. Stopping or lowering dose when you get sides is easy and fast though.
hwd(he wouldn't do) it if he knew the long term impacts of it on his dick, prostate and HPTA
Please provide a meta-analysis or systematic review showing long-term impacts on any of those three, because I can't find any meta-analyses or systematic reviews supporting any of your claims. Moreover, I can link you multiple of said studies showing that finasteride doesn't have any adverse long-term effects.
Only if you are low test to start with. I've been taking it for months and I'm as horny and hard as always.
finasteride has a side effect profile of 1-2% all of which are neutralized by a lowered dosage or discontinued usage
you are being lied to by baldcels
1-2% change of erectile dysfunction but your libido will lower. Not necessary bad thing though
>67069960
>by a lowered dosage
thats false though
even at microdosing levels it will eventually build up to levels that cause side effects if you are prone to it
it will just take longer
>discontinued usage
also false there is a large number of people who will never go back to normal dht levels
also
1% number is for the worst thing like ED
you will most likley have lowered libido and watery semen and other things ou dont even know about and your body needs dht for
yes op people would take something if it only had upside and no downside who wouldnt
The long term negative effects can be reversed by taking proviron for 2 months.
My libido is through the roof since I started Finasteride, and other men will corroborate the same effect. DHT has nothing to do with libido, testosterone does. Finasteride and Dutasteride increase testosterone by a fairly large amount, which increases your libido. People who get ED or low libido "from" finasteride would have gotten ED or low libido without taking finasteride, or are experiencing a nocebo effect.
The only evidence that DHT affects libido and erectile function are people on internet forums saying, second hand, that anecdotal evidence from people taking finasteride say that's how it is. It's a joke.
Your doctor will literally warn you it is very likely to lower your libido. You have confirmation bias when you read these "forums" and nitpick your evidence.
Oh, I wasn't aware that you were in the room during my examination? Did you also hear him say that in all his years he has only had 2 patients that got sexual side effects? One stopped and went back to normal, and the other decided it was worth it to continue. 2 out hundreds/thousands of men got side effects.
But I guess that doesn't fit your narrative, and neither does my experience, and other mens experience with increased libido, so you will just nitpick "evidence" of men getting horrible side effects to prove, as someone who doesn't take finasteride, to me, someone who does take finasteride, what it does to me.
Also I never said side effects don't exist, they are very real, what I'm doing is dismissing that cause of these side effects as being wholly a coincidence, or nocebo effect.
The only evidence of DHT affecting libido and erectile function is you insisting that it does.
Yet you will always be at the same level as people who think that they can fool nature and change their chromosomes that determine their sex. You will also be a drug dependent baldcel. God forbid if and when women find you need goypills to keep your hair. Peak vanity.
Not him but I just want to stall until I'm 27 or so, I refuse to be bald at 22 years old. I will cope and consoom all the goypills because frick this. My matches on online dating sites went from +10 a day to one or two a week shit is just too tough to handle
That doesn't make it any more virtuous or acceptable. It's still vanity. They are still hormone altering drugs.
Honestly, what isn't hormone altering these days?
I know it's vanity, I know it's desperate and I even think it's a bit sad. But I can't cope with being bald at 22, I'm the only one I know who lost hair this early. I look around and everyone else has perfect hairlines.
Wouldn't you be just as vain in my shoes? losing your youth in your early 20s is socially unacceptable.
Don’t listen to these morons. To be human is to compete. All of these celebs do all sorts of shit to look good and then say genetics. Doing your best to be your best is the most natural thing in the world. People are shallow and irrational. The way you get treated is impacted by the way you look. Some degree of vanity is in fact necessary
>B-but I'm so ugly
>I know it's vanity, I even think it's sad
>But wouldn't you also have multiple cosmetic surgeries if you were in my shoes?
>Being this ugly is socially unacceptable
Tough luck. All of your ancestors also went bald yet you are here. They survived and could even get pussy despite balding.
to be human is to use tools and defy nature
Getting rejected by the opposite sex means that you are defective and shouldn't reproduce (of course mate selection can be somewhat manipulated with modern techniques and technologies). Defying nature in a way like this will only get your race and species killed. The mutational load will be too much. The industrial revolution and its consequences etc.
They also owned and raped their wives soo….
>God forbid if and when women find you need goypills to keep your hair.
this is a very telling part of your post, it includes so many implicit assumptions that expose you as a virgin or at least an out of touch 37 year old
>a woman is going to know the mechanism of action of finasteride
>a woman is going to object to finasteride because of it's mechanism of action
>a woman is going to judge you for taking meds
>a woman is going to judge you for taking care of your appearance
>i need medicine to make me look tolerable
Nice genes. You don't even need hair.
Wait till you find out that women use makeup
>anime pic
>probably troony
nice try
>T-T-troony SHILL JOO GROOMER ANIME DISCORD REDDIT
Oh no, you called me a buzzword, I guess finasteride is poison, you win.
>lowering your dht by 70% will not effect your body at all
there is no reason to despute your moronic claims
ah yes and by the way the most side effects will only show after years
enjoy your depression in like 5 years
>ehrm sorry troony shill joo groomer anime discord reddit troony, I don't need any facts myself to dispute your claims that are backed by facts, because I just feel like I'm right and you're wrong
>finasteride build up peaks after a few months
>it takes 5 years to get side effects
LMFAO
Yeah I'm sure nothing at all changes in your body after 5 years. Anything that happens to you at any time in your life after starting finasteride is caused BY finasteride bro. Yeah yeah. Got ED? Depressed? Lost your job? Car broke down? Stubbed your toe? Sorry brah finasteride suddenly decided to frick your shit up after 2 decades!!
N-no it's totally not because you're 50 years old now and 50 fricking percent of men have ED at that age
you didnt gave any facts
all you did was give an anecdotal reference
your claim is still dht has no function in your body other than letting your hair fall out and if you block most of it it wont effect anything else
>your claim is still dht has no function in your body other than letting your hair fall out and if you block most of it it wont effect anything else
Statistically, in clinical trials, that is what we see in literally 99% of men, with a negligible amount of outliers, whose side effects are not even necessarily tied directly to finasteride, yes. What evidence do you have to the contrary, besides other peoples anecdotal evidence?
you trust the science god too much. its not bc only "bad things" are known abut DHT that, that's all it does. nature isn't stupid DHT is there for a reasno.
>appeal to nature
DHT is there to develop male genitalia and secondary sex characteristic during puberty. It doesn't stop being produced after puberty because there's no reason for that extremely complex biological adaptation to occur naturally. And ironically you are trusting the "science god" even more than I am, by just assuming that "biology has a good reason" instead of actually understand WHY something is the way it is.
we know maybe a fraction of what DHT does in the body. its basically a stronger Testosterone. you know, the thing that makes men men?
And if it has no discernable effect on me and the millions of other men who take it, what? We should just do nothing because YOU /FEEL/ like DHT has some intangible effect on your body that is imperceptible to every and scientists?
Like I said before, you are just cowards trying to bring everybody else down so you don't feel bad about it.
>And if it has no discernable effect on me and the millions of other men who take it, what? W
the absolute state of the losers taking all these drugs speaks for itself. you are already so depressed and insensitive you don't even notice side effects. either way you take the drugs or not you wont get laid anyway. anyone on these drugs is a fricking beta loser. just go check out the pictures on Tresless. they would't get laid even if they had hair.
Now that's what I call projecting
I can't believe I'm depressed, anxious, low libido and my erectile is dysfunctional even though I coom every day(actually 2-3 times since starting fin), and a beta loser, and I never even knew it.
right. you are a coomer. of course you don't notice anything. typical npc coombrain.
>you're a coomer that became an even bigger coomer when you took a medication that crashes your libido and gives you ED, depression, and anxiety
I guess you can have your cake and eat it
>not taking a hormone altering pill is cowardice
This is coming from a male who watches Oriental children's cartoons targeted for losers and can't even look a female cashier in the eyes. You don't even need your hair.
>DHT is a stronger testosterone
yeah its stronger at producing skin oil and making you bald you moronic ape, never bring dreck you found on a popscience clickbait website to my board ever again
>> taking chemicals that disrupt hormonal balance surely does nothing but regrow your hair! show me the study!!! show me the study!!
link the studies
I've been taking it for 4-5 years now. 1MG a day.
Works pretty well. Maintained and/or grew more hair. I will say my libido has gone down. Used to be insatiable (horny all day), now if I'm cum once it's a wrap.
How old are you?
I was 25 and a half when I started. I'm 30 now.
Don't regret taking it and take it to this day. I feel like i started at the right time as well.
Bruh, being 30 is pretty much what's got your libido lower.
>finasteride has a side effect profile of 1-2%
Note, that's about the same as ED incidence in the placebo group. Also, if you look at the general population, men who take finasteride actually have a significantly lower incidence of erectile dysfunction.
What I really want to know is, why do people who never plan to take this drug care so much about it? What do you gain by seething about it so much? Are you just upset because other men aren't cowards who go bald like you? Do you care about other mens wieners that much?
Uhm. The pill poppers are the cowards who don't accept their selves and out of vanity start heavy hormonal disruptive chemicals.
Their cope speech is hilarious. homosexuals that parrot muh women fake this muh women that, muh big pharma this muh big pharma that and then take their drugs like a good goy.
Using 20 seconds of your day to take a pill is too much work for the average hair-thinning NEETcel it seems... Or are we going to keep larping that your refusal is actually a grand rebellion against a sinister zionist plot to give you puffy nipples and erectile dysfunction.
you are due for another dose of your troony pills anon
you are due for another 100 hairs down the shower drain anon
Damn. Take care of your hair and don’t get fat anons
i dont see your hairline you pharamagay go shove your troony pills up your ass
>The pill poppers are the cowards who don't accept their selves and out of vanity
Yes. I'm weak and ugly and I will make myself better. I will never accept being a fat bald slob, but you do you.
>start heavy hormonal disruptive chemicals.
DHT is an evil hormone and makes you hairy, bald, and gives you ass cancer. If humans didn't breed until they were 30, DHT would have naturally evolved to shut off, because no woman would breed with a high DHT hairy, bald slob like you.
>Yes. I'm weak and ugly and I will make myself better. I will never accept being a fat bald slob,
All the guys on tressless popping troony drugs would not get laid with hair either. Just give up
you are so brave for being ugly and bald
Thanks. God will judge at the end. I still have my hair btw. But pill poppers are the copers. Anyone that disagrees is a soulless npc
solving a problem is the opposite of coping, trying to downplay the severity of the problem to justify not solving it IS coping
You solve your vanity problem and in return support the polution of water streams pissing out metabolites. You keep your hair but poison life around you and you are too dumb to even understand the implications of your actions. I bet you took the vaccine too.
i take 230 mg of fin per year, 40% of that is excreted with urine
you are saying that i'm poisoning life around me by introducing 90 milligrams of a barely active metabolite into billions of cubic meters of water? just how ridiculous and sanctimonious are internet christcucks
a cubic metre is 1000kg of water you idiot
you aren't the only vanitycel using hormonal disruptors. you pee it out, rinse it out together with thousand other copecells and then a few kids drink some tap water later and get bad development. you are actively helping make your environment more polluted.
woman on birthcontrol is the same thing. it ends up in the water, the water station cant filter it, and then the poor kids consume it and become weaker.
>god, souls
is taking medicine an affront to god? will he smite diabetics for using insulin instead of accepting his will and dying?
>noo its vanity! its not a real condition!
balding is a disfigurement that causes immense psychological damage, its the same kind of condition as being a burn victim
Based.
The "shave it" bros are cowards. Just accept yourself and rock that horseshoe, bro.
Popping a pill every day to keep your actual hair is not comparable to slathering your perfectly normal face in crap because you're obsessed with an unachievable ideal.
Jeremy Meeks has some minor balding but otherwise has great density and it adds to his look. If he was a NW 4-7, he would have to shave pretty much every day to hide the horseshoe.
>What I really want to know is, why do people who never plan to take this drug care so much about it? What do you gain by seething about it so much?
I didn't care until I came across all the fin trannies spaming IST with provocative threads insulting balding people. They are obsessed with shilling this drug and belittle anyone who doesn't want to take hormone blockers. Now I hold them in the same category as moronic trannies which is where they belong. Deeply unpleasant and insecure with their hair dysmorphia.
>I didn't care until someone pointed out I was bald and ugly and made me regret not hopping on fin
Okay, got it cueball
I can add to this anecdotally.
I take 0.25 mg a day, I've been taking it for 4 years. Never had any erectile dysfunction or anything like that.
>you are lied to by baldcels
Hate to break it to you, if you need/are using fin, you are a baldcel
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-courts-secrecy-propecia/
There is a higher incidence of side effects.
the thing is that even if the side effects were real going bald is still fricking worse than having them. if you don't think so you just don't understand exactly how fricking bad it is to go bald in your 20s unless you're one of the lucky few who can get away with it (you're tall, have the right facial structure, etc etc). Your dick isn't as hard as it used to be? Tough luck just take some cialis and / or get your cardio and testosterone up. If literal trannies on HRT can get their dick hard then you can too.
Going bald fricking SUCKS and if you're not ready to face the prospect of side effects on fin iit's because you're oblivious about the dating death sentence that is being bald while young, simple.
my dating life is dead even with hair, cus I'm an autistic loner. my health is important to me
you can fix your introvertedness but you can't fix a bald head once it's too late. act now
No thanks, I'll not take troony pills no matter how much israelites shill them here.
If nature and genetics want me to go bald so it be.
>not a transplant he just used minoxidil for 3 months bro
>read minoxidil info
>says you won’t notice any change for at least 4-6 months
Stop posting this moronic bullshit
Based non reader
why do people care so much about their hair
There is not a single person on this god forsaken planet that looks better without hair.
so?
But you just posted one.
jeremy meeks
Black people don’t count because their “hair” isn’t actual hair.
He looks better bald
many people actually look pretty good bald in my opinion.
I don’t find a lot of bald guys hot but when I do see a guy that I think looks good bald I get obsessed with him.
Depends on your whole persona and image. Statham looks better bald. He looks so generic in that pic with hair
in your opinion 🙂
The Rock looks better now
Chicks hate men with no hair. Also it makes u look old
then why some many bald men have girlfriends?
i mean young ones
Because they have borderline personality disorder and you remind them of their father
keep telling that to yourself if it helps you falling asleep
They would have more girlfriends if they weren't bald.
Frames the face to make it look better.
Face is the #1 thing for determining looks.
So having something that can make the face look better is huge.
I inject DHT and rub it on my head. No ED and i sleep 3 hrs more a day and get leas done
I wouldn't because i don't have hairlet genetics.
imagine caring about your hair like a woman lmfaooo
you're literally a homosexual who is obsessed with his looks
how about you start being a real man?
So why aren't you fat? Why do you shower and brush your teeth and trim your beard and fingernails? Why do own own more clothes than a single pair of jeans and a t shirts? Are you vain or something? lol you lift weights? What are you some kind of sissy that cares about his looks like a woman?
It looks like it's mostly the lighting. A bright light shining right down on your head will really show thinning hair. But in the second pic the light is different, you can still see how thin it is though. I don't think people should be scared of finesteride. I myself took Dutasteride for a year or two. It worked pretty well for me. But It's not going to completely change your situation, only improve it a bit.
>I myself took Dutasteride for a year or two
why stop?
Because I think that I got all that I was going to get out of it and I didn't want to take it forever. People say that your hair will fall out after you stop but it didn't for me. I've been off of it for two years at least and my hair is the same as when I stopped. I have been using topical minoxidil once a day though.
never got any erectile dysfunction from finasteride, maybe libido is different but it has never been crazy even when i was younger so idk. i tried minoxidil for a little bit but had a heart issue so i stopped it. dunno if it was from that though, as i was also obese and had resting heart rate of 90-100 bpm back then
the chance of getting that side effect is pretty low, likewise I was on an SSRI for a couple of years and my dick and libido remained as strong as ever.If you read the leaflet for ANY drug and feared the risk of any of the side effects you'd never take medicines again. Not taking drugs unless strictly necessary is a pretty good way of life, but the chances of getting something nasty out of them is vastly exaggerated, especially on this board.
>insecure balding men take pills that could potentially kill your dick in order to grow hair on the front of their head again and hope it doesn't rain.
lmao i honestly don't get you guys. the minute i started balding on my crown i jsut started shaving. if you were getting laid before you will continue to get laid after. pic related - my matches for 1 day after i removed all the fatties and ugly people.
King
I don't like these threads
We need to keep a united front against our real enemy: women
lmao, are you 10 ?
yeah
what you gonna do about it huh
watch this
MODS!!!
OH SHI-
Based.
I don't care about ED but I don't want to lose IQ points or (exacerbate) gyno
i’m trialing derma rolling with a 25cm roller on my forehead myself. i wanna get rid of some deep-set “worry lines” because they make me look way older than i am. had them since like 22. as i get closer to 30 i might frequently derma roll my scalp but thank god i still have a full head of hair. can’t hurt to at least get that bloodflow going to that area in advance anyways.
Looks like shit in both photos
Been on fin for 6 months. For the first two weeks had no morning wood, softer bones. After 2 weeks everything back to normal. Hair's looking better.
Consider the finasteride wager
>go bald
>guaranteed to never have sex or find a gf unless you're willing to settle for desperate 40+ year old women
>take fin
>there's a CHANCE you might get ED
Logically it just makes sense to take fin, doesn't it?
lol you pharma shills are such fricking homosexuals. You can be bald and do fine with women. Stick to your troony pills you dumbass Black person.
I really like my hair. Too bad finasteride gave me ED. I'll rock the nw2 until I can afford a hair transplant and TRT.
Making my girl coom hard is more important than stopping hair loss right now.
Finasteride rarely has side effects because the sexual hormone that matters in adult men isn't DHT, it's Testosterone. DHT only acts as a signalling hormone during puberty, after that, it has zero known positive effects on the body.
The only reason why Finasteride can cause side effects at all is because it blocks conversion from T to DHT and thus raises the T level. In some cases, the body starts to get rid of the excess T by aromatizing it to Estradiol. THIS is what causes reduced libido, ED and lowered sperm count. But just as with people who roid and have the very same side effects, this can be easily prevented by taking an aromatase inhibitor or SERM when it happens, and it is completely reversible and disappears as soon as you stop taking the medicine.
So the risk of at least TRYING to take Finasteride or Dutasteride is next to zero. Worst case you'll have to decide between discontinuing taking it or additionally taking an AI or SERM.
>it has zero known positive effects on the body.
yeah goy!! trust the sciencepapers!
eggs are bad! vegetables are very healthy! nah radiation doesn't affect you! sure you can eat hormonal disruptive chemicals it wont do anything but grow your hair!!!!!! fricking idiots lol, why do i still come to this board
DON"TFORGET TO TAKE YOUR 3MONTHLY VACCINE!!!!!!! TRUST THE SCIENCE
based af
>The only reason why Finasteride can cause side effects at all is because it blocks conversion from T to DHT
thats just one of the effects. we don't know most of the effects. just because you dont' notice anything doesn't mean it isn't affecting you.
>the sides were real in my mind goy!!!
your mind is very undeveloped and NPC like its normal you don't notice the things that are killing you. hop on the vegan diet too while you are at it. red meat bad! trust the science!
>its a ketolard
o i am laffin
post keto hairline bro
he also took 3 shots of blood clot vaccines. you can t be complaining abut blood clots if you tok the vax yu were warned.
>blood clots
Too bad he has atherosclerosis, not blood clots, you absolute mongrel.
>inb4 the vaxx can magically create decades worth of plaque buildup in a matter of months
>take pill
>need to take another pill for side effects
>NO SIDE EFFECTS GOY!!
18 months of fin and minox
Hair kept very short but i am letting it grow now
No sides beside 1st week.
Minor pain under my balls for 5 days. Anyway, my 2 grandf died from prostate cancer.. so...
Nice transitioning sister
lmao you fricked yourself for life for that bullshit
Why is it that when people have nothing really to say they just add swear words?
This was me
I'm fine thank you. 34yo.
lmao wearing a hat indoors to hide that shit hairline
This is definitely a hair transplant.
Why would the guy lie?
memes, insecurity, paid shill to advertise for ads, for shits and giggles, many many possibilities
I used to pretend that I'm a keto tard just to meme vegans, and sometimes I'd pretend to be a vegan to meme keto tards.
Taking troony meds unfortunately wont cure ugliness. If youre ugly when youre bald you will most likely still be ugly if you regain your hair
Idk this is sort of not true. Ie Greg doucette looks fine with hair but he looks like shit now that he shaved his head. Someone like David laid too is obviously handsome with hair but I think he would definitely drop a few notches bald
If a man goes bald it's a good sign that he's failed breeding material and should not be able to hide it. Men with hair are the kings and baldies who cope with meds should be put in prison.
This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet. When you get a horsehoe hairline I hope you think of this comment as you put the rope around your neck.
Never gonna happen every man on both sides of my family has full hair till death. Return to your copes.
post hairline you dumb Black person
Mild hairloss bros try dermaneedling+minoxidil. If you’re norwood3+ or appear to be headed that way quickly then get on fin but if you’re more the mature hairline type hair loss then it’s amazing. Took me from a Norwood 2 on one side very nearly back to a Norwood 1 and from a near 3 on the other back to a solid 2. Also stopped the beginning of a bald spot. Hands down the most useful thing I learned on fit
Anyway take every study about fin with a grain of salt, Mercks was caught lying about rogaine.
Everyone who uses this shit has the same wispy puff of hair on top of their head afterwards. It looks fricking stupid.
i've been on fin for 9 months with no ED. so far, it has saved my hairline, now hoping that it will finish up the crown because that's where my balding was always worse.
hair doesn't matter for handsome people and only handsome people matter so hair doesn't matter.
Look what just arrived from Singapore, IST
I officially became a troony today
medical gay here:
DHT has subtypes,
Finasteride acts on the scalp mostly
while dutasteride acts on other subtype.
TLDR: Finasteride is safe, very safe, you can take it no problem.
I've been using it for 4 years now, besides having less volume ejaculations my dick is hard as a rock,
you guys are homosexuals.
stfu pharmashill gay go take your troony pill
why does everyone shill fin when dutasteride is better, according to the hair transplant clinic i went to? they say you have to take dut after the procedure
because if you ask for a dut script most docs will say no because they dont know about it; whereas if you ask for fin you will 99% of the time get it
You can't just do 3 months of minox, once you start it you have to always do it or else you lose all your minox hair.
Anon, it means that so far he's been on minoxidil for three months...
go take your troony pill you fricking homosexual
You must be a real schizo when everyone around you tells you that you are moronic and you think everyone else is wrong lol
homies don't even know what dht is used for in the body.
I took 1mg for a couple months and experienced ED, decreased EQ,ow libido and even minor shrinkage (though it could be just EQ).
>finasteride
>erectile dysfunction
As an omega coomer who has been on fin for over a year, I can tell you this is not true. I'm blasting off like 5 - 7 times a day minimum. Thats over 2.5k times a year. Dick works great, solid erections, not trouble getting it up. Only a very small % of people get that and if you do well congrats on having shit genetics. You can also just take a lower dosage, it will just take longer to take effect but then you just take it to maintain, I think anywhere as low as 0.5mg is effective, maybe lower.
Based coomer.
I see the anti-fin schizos have abandoned any form of actual argumentation and have just devolved to chanting "troony troony troony" to try and drown out any real discussion
They are too stupid to even think about their own argument. Fin are not troony pills. Fin are men pills. They treat Male pattern baldness. Troons get fin because they are still male, regardless of all the hormones and surgery they do therefor they still get male pattern baldness. You just can't cheat nature by taking hormones. Calling them troony pills means you agree with them.