I’m a 5’8 white zoomer in Bongistan. Studies show average male is 5’9 right? So it shouldn’t be that bad right? WRONG. I am fricking shorter than every one of my friends, 90% of my male peers and 50% of women. Is there any escape through fitness or do I rope?
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And for all you gays who say I am overemphasizing the importance of height, have a nice day now. There are legitimate morons who have nothing over me except a few inches of height who because of the height have an observably better quality of life. Peers and women treat short men with absolutely no respect. You are basically invisible. This is the curse of a man born with such high T that the growth plates fuse too soon, high estrogen lanklets have won the genetic lottery.
>This is the curse of a man born with such high T that the growth plates fuse too soon
Is that why I've barely grown since middle school. I swear I hit puberty at least 3-4 years before all my peers.
Eunuchs and castrated animals are known to grow unusually long limbs.
Is this true? Does T really stunt your growth in puberty?
Goddamn, it's all starting to make sense through literary architypes: the gentle giant, elves being tall and pacifist...
So is this why traps always have bigger dicks??
Most women I know aren’t into insecure height-mogged beta b***h boys. Have you considered just not giving a frick and finding a woman who appreciates your character? Oh wait your character is a bitter c**t who can’t look past his own shortcomings and succeed in spite.
Ngmi
>5’9 btw
Not OP, but I'm shorter than most men in my local area and probably state as well. If I was a woman, why the frick would I take a short guy over a tall guy. Especially if he has the same personality. Law of probability dictates that someone you come across will at some point be a taller better version of yourself.
Before I resort to calling you an incel
>muh law of probability is why I can’t get pussy
assuming you’re not a cliche/vapid frickboy, someone will find you cool and interesting enough to keep around truly
You might pick a shorter guy because in my experience, taller people are seen as “more attractive” which leads to a higher probability of one using their looks nigh exclusively to skate by in their early years being hedonists, and then hit their 20’s realizing that they’re not original or unique in any capacity
The chances of finding someone with the “exact same personality” is VERY low, I haven’t found mine yet. Wherever the “taller better” version of me is he hasn’t hindered my ability to get laid yet so we’ll see I suppose
I mean I'll just be straight up with you. I've never actually tried to get pussy before. I don't have any desire to date or anything like that right now, Idk why either. I do fear that I'll hit a point where I start to desire it out of nowhere. The reason I argue my point though isn't to say women are bad or at fault in some way, but that there are factors that I believe statistically are true. The only time I get mad at any woman is when they shame me for having preferences. Thanks for actually responding though, and not just calling me an incel and leaving it at that.
>There are legitimate morons who have nothing over me except a few inches of height who because of the height have an observably better quality of life.
I am also a zoomer in bongistan of similar height and I was considering helping you until I read this load of bollocks. have a nice day c**t
He's probably a Joe chasing white women.
God damn, you're a loser. Height won't fix that
I'm 5'9 in the UK and I've never had problems with my height.
I want you to know it's the opposite estrogen will cause your growth plates to close sooner, why do you think everyone 14 year old takes aromatase inhibitors and mk677 now? Why are most women shorter than most men? Estrogen.
So you're actually just a low T manlet as opposed to a high T one.
Dumbest shit I've heard all day.
Testosterone in men is at an all time low. If it made them taller than why wasn't everyone like 7ft tall in the past? moron.
Read this:
All sex hormones close the growth plates.
holy fricking cope
Cope. High estrogen results in early growth plate fusion.
Tall skinny guys have the biggest dicks. I was one of them, now I'm not skinny, still tall with a big dick though. t. 6'3" with 8x6"
Tallcel cope. My dick is 9.5 inches long and 7 inches around and I'm 5'7"
>Peers and women treat short men with absolutely no respect. You are basically invisible.
That's not because you're 5'8. That's because you're an insufferable insecure homosexual and everyone can see it.
Dude I'm the same height with a wife and 2 kids, stfu about height. Whining and lack of confidence is why women don't want you
I'm 5'5. Yeah I'm a kissless virgin, but who gives a frick.
I know I'd definitely rather die as a ripped short kissless virgin than as a fat short kissless virgin.
You're not 5'8"
5’8.5” actually. Bellend
Most of it is in your head.
You've developed selection bias because you obsess over your height constantly
Statistics would prove you wrong. As a short male you will be less likely to get leadership positions. That's the kicker for me, and why hopefully some day I'll be able to make money without wagecucking for a shitty job I hate that will be more likely to hire a 6'2 newbie over me.
Lol look at this "blackpilled" zoomer
You'll be fine. You need to be more confident though. Else, no shit, you ain't gonna get a job.
Do you at least have a High-T face?
Idk, I'm not going to post it. What do you mean by a high T face?
Jawline, prominent brow ridge, "dominant eyes", high facial width to height ratio, etc
homosexual le hecking funny guy perma friendzone phenotype on the left
criminal phenotype on the right
deranged schizophrenic. you dont get b***hes because youre a weird loser
Look man, if you don't want to believe me so be it. Reality is what it is. Nothing any of us can do to change it. I'm cognisent of factors that are out of my control and realize that I'll have worse chances than others, and others will have worse chances than me.
>As a short male you will be less likely to get leadership positions
tell that to putin
Kek this
Putin is like 5'6
That's bullshit. First off at my work in a tech company the department heads and managers are of varying height.
Second, in my friend group alone. I'm 6'1 the rest are between 170cm and 180cm and two are 193cm+. Who is the guy we all look up to the most in our friend group?
The short 170cm guy. You know why? His personality, his friendliness, charisma, intelligence and pure leadership skill and most all lack of insecurity over his height.
So OP you can either stop letting yourself be dragged down by your height and accept you can't change it and better yourself. This helped me as well as even I was insecure about being 6'1 in windmillstan
>Statistics would prove you wrong
So in the last years, you haven't learned what statistics are worth? Are you stupid?
This. Or he is confusing height for eye level.
>5'9
This is a meme. The average is low because Mexicans and Central American immigrants bringing it down. I imagine is Pajeets and Pakis in the UK
If you only take white men, the average is probably like 5'11
I'm shorter than you. I'm not going to rope at least until I'm 50 but I've definitely become a bitter nihilist hedonist. Make money, find something you enjoy and try to be happy
also older men tend to be shorter
hormones in goyslop gave zoomzooms mad heightgainz
All the estrogen. That's why so many young guys are tall but are framelets nowadays. Similar to Klinefelters.
Not that long ago the average height was much lower but men were much tougher and stronger. With testosterone levels that would be considered off the charts today. "High testosterone" today would legit be considered low back then.
Height is weird, it seems like it is estrogen in the case of zoomers. Eunuchs in china and middle east were known for being taller than the average person.
However if estrogen is responsible, then why are women short?
Castrati as well. Wikipedia says it's because the lack of testosterone causes bone joints not to harden in the typical manner, causing the limbs to grow longer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrato
Testosterone and estrogen can both block growth. Women get a much larger spike of estrogen earlier which closes their growth plates. Whereas young guys these days will just have high background estrogen which inhibits testosterone function... but not enough to close the growth plates early. This leads to long but thin bones and a shit frame.
Remember how girls got their growth spurts early in school? And there's that time period where they're taller than most of the boys?
You do realize that those averages are usually based on the mean for 18 or 19 year olds, right? Studies on recruits in western countries with conscription also show little to no change in average height for nearly 50 years.
The average white European height is 5'9.5, according to the largest sample sizes. The issue with height comes because zoomers are OBESSESED with it. No, zoomers are not taller, this is a scientifically studied fact. Zoomers especially have a confirmation bias where they are obsessed with counting whoever is taller than them. That and ridiculous haircuts and sneakers with 4 in soles.
Shorter minorities and old age drag down the average by fractions of an inch.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/27/487391773/americans-are-shrinking-while-chinese-and-koreans-sprout-up
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/07/27/487391773/americans-are-shrinking-while-chinese-and-koreans-sprout-up
I think you may have overlooked a clue in OP's post. He is brown.
>pajeets and pakis in the UK
>according to the 2011 Census, the total population of England and Wales was 56.1 million, and 86.0% of the population was White
people from Asian ethnic groups made up the second largest percentage of the population (at 7.5%), followed by Black ethnic groups (at 3.3%), Mixed/Multiple ethnic groups (at 2.2%) and Other ethnic groups (at 1.0%)
keep coping mayo monkey
That 14% of the population is enough to bring the numbers down, plus only about 79% is white British, the rest being Eastern Euros.
UK average is 5'10 these days, look it up. France is a bit shorter at 5'9 and obv Spain and Italy (non whites tho), where as Scandinavia and eastern Europe push the numbers up.
Yeah, we åre status obsessed.
The height comparisons rarely show the changes in build that can make height differences even more apparent.
The UK average has always been between 5'9-5'10. The larger sample size studies tend to trend this towards the lower end.
Actually the average zoomer male is 6'4. Half of them are NBA height
It was about 5'7 during war time, iirc.
Or just boring, like me.
>tfw 27 yr old millenial
>career and house
>0 social life, 0 matches, 0 b***hes
I've had gf's n shit irl so it's not bad, but I don't think I'll ever be successful on apps.
success on apps is easy, you don’t even have to be rich at this point. zoomer women look at insta all day, and all they care about is experiences. pics of you doing adventurous shit or proving you can provide them adventure are all you need. if you live near the water and have a pic of you driving a boat for example you will have more matches than you know what to do with. but basically every 8/10+ chick that I’ve been with that’s in her early 20’s has told me they have one hard and fast rule for dating, and that’s no dudes their age. shit’s weird
A boat implies wealth too, not just instant "fun".
I live on the coast but I haven't been to the sea front more than once this year. I don't have a boat nor know anyone who has.
I'm not into materialistic, air headed women either, I'd bore them too easily.
I like down to earth types, or hippies as I don't have the charisma or social ability to entertain a thot. I'm probably abit autistic, seeing as I use this place.
>no dudes their age
I know young women don't like going younger, but I didn't know about the same age. A lot of women I know are into older guys though, which is kinda weird cos all your energy and strength is in your young prime.
I consider this a gift because it forced me to accept reality. accepting reality is the best there is. I may never gain more than 5‘9‘‘ but I die a giant in mind,
OP here, you’re Accepting reality? The reality that you will never get pussy? The reality that we will be overlooked for every promotion offered at the job? The reality that we will have to settle for a fat slob or crackhead who will cheat the first chance she gets? What reality is there to accept?
kek insufferable homosexual. go get therapy you sad sack c**t
my life seems different from yours. maybe you should seek out other people and do things that are good for you regardless of your height my friend. I wish you the best
cope homosexual
chin up little man. just stand tall and hold your head up high
try tis simple test and will make you happy if you pass
Height comparison of 5ft 7 and 6ft
>https://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/compsizes.xhtml?Figure%201~male~170.2_Figure%202~male~182.9
Text formatting might frick up the link... In which case go to
https://www.mrinitialman.com/OddsEnds/Sizes/compsizes.xhtml
And adjust the figures yourself
funny, a woman most likely cant tell the difference between 5'9 and 6'
but that doesnt matter, women will continue comparing you to everyone else until they can see a difference and then you wont be good enough
Most people don't seem to know height differences, but they're comparing you to the men around. If you're 5'9 surrounded by guys that are 5'11-6'3 and 10-30kgs heavier, then you will look small.
i am 173cm and everything is good
>everything is good
yet you are here you are not normal
You live in Japan?
I'm in exact same position as you but Millennial bong and it's absolutely been fine for me. Has the height meme got this bad for younger people? I've been told I'm charismatic and funny irl and that helps but I don't remember my height being a big deal even once.
Everyone is a head taller and filled with more estrogen, and the curly mulatto perms only add to the height.
I pass by a middle school on my morning commute and these fricking zoomers are as tall as me (5'8") despite being in grade 8 at most. I remember there being some strangely tall kids in my middle school like 10 years back but now it seems that most of them are taller than me rather than just some.
daily reminder to hide blackpilled height threads
cope
I'm 5'7 in Bongistan also and of my best friends 2 of them are 6'4, 1 of them is 6'3, 1 of them is 6,2 and the last one is 6'1. I wouldn't really say it has affected me in any meaningful way
So on paper stuff like 5'9" is average in the UK/US
however...
>The white average in the US is 5'10.5-11"
>This average is for all people, not the 30 and under generation
>The sub 30s are taller than average
So I'd say the average height for a white zoomer in the US is at least 5'11", may even be 6'
No
Average height of white Americans is 5’10 for the age range of 20-39. Most zoomers height fraud way more too. Most zoomers who tell me they are 6-6’2 and they are 5’8-5’10. I’m 6’1 and a zoomer told me he was 6’2 when he was 3 inches shorter than me (he thought I was 6’5)
I am 6'1.5" and I tell people I'm 6'2" but I feel like a massive fraud anyway because I slouch
>So I'd say the average height for a white zoomer in the US is at least 5'11", may even be 6'
That's the saddest mutt cope I have ever seen. You guys ARE short. Like, noticably, really fricking short by Euro standards. No wonder you like big cars and guns so much.
t. short in Germany, tall in the US at 6'1 or 185 cm
>short in Germany, tall in the US at 6'1 or 185 cm
M8 Even back on university campus I was among the higher ones at 184cm. Why are you lying?
There's like 20% of male zoomers who are 190cm+ but only 30% are as tall or taller than 185cm.
>Why are you lying?
You probably were in the East, I'm in Cologne.
>There's like 20% of female zoomers who are 190cm+ but only 30% are as tall or taller than 185cm.
Fixed for Cologne.
>You probably were in the East
Southwest
>Cologne
You're not even in a tall German region. Pic related.
I’ve been to cologne, I’m 186cm and towered over most people.
Why are heightfrauders so delusional they believe their own lies?
I bet they count with shoes on.
I swear people have to be counting with shoes + in the morning + their hair. Literally everyone says I am 190cm+, even though i am 186. Yea sure if I measure with all their cheating methods I can be 192cm. But that’s not my real height, if I go to the doctors and use the machine it comes back as 186.
that's not enough to account for the discrepancy
I swear these zoomer homosexuals that say they feel short at "6'2" must be measuring in the morning + spiked hair + 4" platform shoes + insoles. I've been to most cities in Germany and the young natives (who are taller than the turks by maybe 1" on avg) are about 5'11" on average
>tfw every nation has the remove their immigrant population first
It's only going to get worse
It's insane how much people are heightfrauding, soon people will think I am an NBA player, because 5'5 guys will be claiming 6'. I'm 186 cm and taller than about 9 out of 10 guys I have seen, have travelled around Europe and USA. In the vast majority of places its the same, the only places I didn't feel tall was some cities in the Netherlands and a small town outside of Warsaw.
Further in places like Spain, France, and southern parts of Italy, people my height were even rarer than 1/10.
Alright there wee man?
How's the weather down there?
What? I couldn't hear you all the way down there!
Haha nah I'm joking you're alright.
The fact that you let your height affect you this much means you're already doomed to never make it
You can cope all you want, but it's your insecurities that limit you, not your stature
>evey dude with gfs just happen to be tall and attractive
Im not op
But come man,
What is you talking about?
>50% of bong birds are taller than 5'8
kek
>taller than every dude who claims to be 6ft by at least an inch or two
>Im 5ft11 rounding up
You arnt 5ft8
You are 5ft6 on copium
Picrel is 5’7
Troon out
Oh God look at the hands.
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DO NOT LOOK AT THE HANDS
You can just get jacked as frick. It's easier when you're a little fella. Or just career max. You think you have it bad? One of my closest friends is 5'1". 5 fricking 1. And he gets laid regularly. Ok sure, he doesn't pull every night out like a 6'2" jacked bloke would but he career maxes and personality maxes and that's enough for him to pull even on dating apps every few weeks. And he doesn't even have a particularly handsome face. Life isn't fair but it's just something we have to deal with. I'm 6'1", shredded as frick, good looking, career maxing but I'm fricking bipolar and mildly autistic. We just have to deal with these things if we want to achieve all that we set out to achieve. If you can't grow up and play with the hand you were dealt then yeah maybe you should opt out because it is never going to change. Just know that there is a 5 foot chinese fella out there pulling both white and asian chicks taller than him and hotter than him because he did what he could to make it happen.
Your issue, unless you're ugly as frick on top of being short, is your lack of social skills.
I am 5'5, literally 165cm, and lost my virginity at 19. I am shorter than 99.9% of males I see on a regular basis.
Start talking to other people, strike up conversations, develop this enough and you'll find a way Or don't, and continue whining about not being (insert height). homosexual
I'm not denying height is huge when dating but a good face is still number one
You will never be chad, but at least you are still taller than the average woman. Imagine being 5'4 m8
be my daddy bro, im 5'7
Hahaha. Average male is 5'9 because it includes all men from 18 to elderly, white men & hispanic, chinese, indian, etc. If you're white & young then the average height for that is gonna be different than just the average male height.
This. Most white zoomers around the world are 5'11 on average (except in the Netherlands and some Eastern European countries where they are 6'0-6'0.5 on average).
I'm also 5'8. I have a hot gf, a good career and building my first house at the age of 28. Stop blaming your height for your mediocrity
Same and similar. I fricked myself up mentally for a while when I became blackpilled over height and almost destroyed my life due to bad decision making but then snapped out of it. Now I am married to a beautiful, faithful woman who had only ever been with me and we have a child. The strange thing about the blackpill is that its true but at the same time it only affects you as much as you let it. We are able to create our own realities; this is the power that God has given to us. Don’t let other people drag you down. We might be shorter than other people but we can still succeed in life; having things easier isn’t always the blessing that it first seems either. Yes we will have to improve ourselves and actually achieve something rather than coasting by on tutorial mode. But life has a way of rewarding those who seek to better themselves. Stop obsessing over unobtainable status symbols and acquire something with real value, be it skills or relationships or assets. Get good.
😐
I'm a 6'0 white dude in Sweden and I also feel short, my twelve year old younger brother is approaching 188cm, crazy
Lol same I'm 6ft in Germany and just feel average most of the time
Really? I'm in BW and feel somewhat tall at 184cm.
You're not 5'8" if 50% of women mog you, sorry buddy. Maybe 5'8" in the morning with shoes on, i.e. 5'5.5" barefoot evening height
Become a gay bottom
You need to take the /biz pill. Only money can save you
Always thought I was 5'6, turns out I'm 5.6' so 5'8"
Frick you homosexuals and shit units, use meters and derived units. Also write the unit...
>he fell for the average meme
Because you are actually 5’5 and are height frauding like all other zoomers. You realize you should measure your height not in the morning, not with shoes, and not include your broccoli hair.
>Studies show average male is 5’9 right?
Average male, yes. Average zoomer male is 6'1
Maybe in certain Bosnian regions.
*measures in morning, in shoes with 2 inch heels, broccoli hair included
>Studies show average male is 5’9 right?
If you count 70 year old boomers. Zoomers are much taller.
5'9 includes pakis, chinks and old people. If you're below 5'10 in current year you should kys
Source: am 5'11 manlet
I'm 5'9 without shoes and if anything noticed zoomers aren't that tall irl. The Mexicans are definitely short but even whites seem around 5'9 but it seemed higher in university
>zoomer males are all 6’ plus!!!!
>this height is a curse!!
>zoomer males still statistically can’t get laid and inceldom rates rising dramatically
>zoomer women on dating apps fricking 30 year old manlets en masse
blame your generation lol but it is one of the best times to be alive for anyone older with a decent living
It's because they're tall but have low-T faces
op I'm 5'8 in UK and I have no problem getting pussy and am successful
You just want an excuse to justify your failure
>Also 5'8 bong
>Don't care
>Have a personality
>Can wash myself
>Thus get pussy
Other factors in your life are the cause of your issues. I say that as someone that could have easily made OP's post 5 years ago
This is unironically true. Girls in real life do not actually care about height nearly as much as what is perpetuated online by both men and women. I'm like 5'8 or 5'9 and Im with a girl that's like 5'6 - 5'7 and she even makes comments about how she likes my height for various reasons. There are plenty of girls out there just like that and as long as you're an interesting person that would make someone interested in you as a partner you will have no problem with women regardless of height.
here average zoomers are like 6'3-6'6 average theyre huge
What you think is 6'6" is closer to 6'2" barefoot
studies have shown that women really care about upper body strength and extraversion way more
on tinder where obese STD ridden bawds write wishlists, yeah you need to be over 6' to be the ultimate frickboi
but for everyone leading a normal life, being that height has zero impact unless you actually let it
keep in mind that half of guys also have a below average sized dick
half of guys also have a below average (male) IQ
etc.
there's an extra bit of association with height, because you get tarred with the same brush as other people who are shortish, and a lot of short guys might lack confidence due to it
>be your height
>be shorter
>be blessed with stocky genes and a better face than most dudes
its not all bad, most taller dudes are skinnyfat messes, and so are most women tbqh
I'm 5'7 in Spain and I have sex.