If you have a hairline like this at age say 25, does that mean you're safe from the norwood reaper? I don't even have a widows peak yet, meanwhile people who go bald usually have one by the end of puberty.
You could experience gradual thinning of the hair as you age, but if you don't even have a widows peak, then you probably won't follow the norwood scale.
I’m 38 and my hair started falling out a few months after getting over covid. I started using pic related and it came back thicker and more curly than before. Shit was weird.
I use Paul Mitchell tea tree too. Definitely noticed my hair was stronger and fewer strands when I shower. Just make sure it has Paul Mitchell on the bottle like in the pic, lots of fakes out there
Damn dude, same situation. I was 37 when I caught COVID and very quickly after I started losing hair at an alarming rate. I’m on 0.5mg/day of Fin now and I’m back to my previous state, but I worry that I’ll have to up the dose soon.
30-120 a day isn’t an alarming rate btw. 0-9 on your pillow isn’t an alarming rate, nor are loose hairs on your head. Please explain in detail. Were 250+ coming out a day? Were whole clumps coming out?
Beyond 7 and do fine with females.
Don't be a creepy weirdo who looks like he jacks off too much and you're good.
Autism is no excuse, I'm on the spectrum. But my autistic teenage obsession was social interaction so that might color it I guess. >and I only just started working out so it's not a physicality thing
I've been using flaxseed oil and coconut as a scalp massage (1x morning 20mins, 1x evening 20mins) but my hair is still receeding bros. There's guys older than me with full heads of hair.
How am I going to fix this? I want a gf but I look like I'm in my mid to late thirties.
I just gave up. tried min and fin for a few years but hairloss continued. decided to just shave it off and be done with it. I'm also a manlet so I'm probably just doing to live like a monk for the rest of my life. I've accepted the fact that I'll never get a gf or get married or do any of that shit. it's a liberating feeling but also a depressing one. if you're tall and have good face structure that shaving it might not be a bad idea. otherwise take fin and min and see if that does anything for you.
That's unlucky bro. I've been told to shave it but the back of my head is OK. Thinking of getting a transplant in Thailand this year if I can afford it. The back bit might save me.
bruh it's over you need a heavy duty regimen not coconut oil and massage, since you are still young if you have hair around the norwood 5 area you could be a hyper repsonder and gain alot back depends if you have hair or it's slick bald
Coconut oil has healing properties and its good for hair follicle stimulation. I've also read that sleeping with a wet towel on the scalp is good for keeping the skin hydrated. I'm going to try to recover from it bro, 23 this year and I won't be shaving it.
How do you become a norwood 5 at 22? The fastest balding still takes like 5 years at least.
I started thinning during puberty. I'm also around 360lbs at 5'9 so my diet probably wasn't the best to be honest.
try castor oil atleast or rosemary or peppermint they work better you could use coconut oil as a carrier and leave them overnight if you really serious about recovering you need stronger stuff the oils i listed are one of the most effective ones, keep it with the massages rob from perfect hair health done a study proving they are effective look up his channel he got some really good info, and good luck my friend wish you the best in life my friend you deserve it for dealing with this shit this young
>360lbs at 5'9
Bro you are unhealthy as fuck. Not saying this to be mean, but hair is way down the body's priority list and if everything else is fucked up your hair will be too. It's seen as a sign of vitality for a reason. Fix your fucking diet and you might see some regrowth if it isn't actually genetic. At the very least you won't be a fat slob.
I know
[...]
I just gave up. tried min and fin for a few years but hairloss continued. decided to just shave it off and be done with it. I'm also a manlet so I'm probably just doing to live like a monk for the rest of my life. I've accepted the fact that I'll never get a gf or get married or do any of that shit. it's a liberating feeling but also a depressing one. if you're tall and have good face structure that shaving it might not be a bad idea. otherwise take fin and min and see if that does anything for you.
i went bald at like 20
at least we have each other
27 at like 1.5. Just going to wait it out for now.
Can't tell if I have lost anything since I wasn't as paranoid before about hair until I came on this site.
Same age same stage as
Also wasn't paranoid but by any means I am not going to take finasteride or mino. My father is 57 and have same is also stage 1.5 - 2.
So for now I am just add rosemery oil and peppermint oil to my shampoo. If this does't help so be it. Not gonna become a fucking chud cause of hairloss.
I've been using flaxseed oil and coconut as a scalp massage (1x morning 20mins, 1x evening 20mins) but my hair is still receeding bros. There's guys older than me with full heads of hair.
How am I going to fix this? I want a gf but I look like I'm in my mid to late thirties.
bruh it's over you need a heavy duty regimen not coconut oil and massage, since you are still young if you have hair around the norwood 5 area you could be a hyper repsonder and gain alot back depends if you have hair or it's slick bald
When are you retards going to learn? MPB is genetic. There are fat pieces of shit with full heads of hair. There are junkies with full heads of hair. There are anorexics with full heads of hair. There are homeless people with full heads of hair. Stop coping. Face reality.
34 Norwood 5.5.
At 16 I was already at stage 2.
Doctor wouldn't give me any drugs because "it's just part of life"
Man to go back and kick that doctors ass now.
>5 in front >2 in back >been that way since I was 18
Thankfully I have the sense to shave my head bald but when I get lazy and let it grow out I have to wear a hat in public to avoid shame
You're never safe unless you're 65 y/o with a full head of white hair.
I've seen dudes with the thickest, blackest most dense hair that almost looked like a wild boar, go bald in a matter of 2 years at 35+
I've seen dudes who were norwood 3 since they were 20 keep it past their 40 (with some thinning, of course)
Even my brother who has been a norwood 1 all his life has started thinning at 43.
>I've seen dudes with the thickest, blackest most dense hair that almost looked like a wild boar, go bald in a matter of 2 years at 35+
Yup, happened to me at 39. Within 2 years I lost 50% of my hair. No signs of balding before that, I had a Norwood 1 up till then. Took my hair for granted. Luckily I landed a wife 5 years ago and she seems fine with the balding.
>I've seen dudes with the thickest, blackest most dense hair that almost looked like a wild boar, go bald in a matter of 2 years at 35+
Yup, happened to me at 39. Within 2 years I lost 50% of my hair. No signs of balding before that, I had a Norwood 1 up till then. Took my hair for granted. Luckily I landed a wife 5 years ago and she seems fine with the balding.
Same here, though not quite so late. Had full head of hair that I got complemented on at 33. All of a sudden every time I ran my hand through my hair or took a shower there would be hairs everywhere. Was incredibly surprising to me, as I thought for sure I’d be safe at that point with no hair loss. Thank god for fits hair obsession, I snapped out of denial pretty quickly and started dermapenning and minoxidil and that saved most of it. Even mid 60s is no guarantee. My dad always had a full head of hair even up to like 64 but after that he started getting significant recession and a bald spot.
Stop giving a fuck. Embrace being bald. Bald is based. Don't even look in the mirror. Walk around not giving a fuck about it and your balls will hang lower than these pathetic cucks blowing their money on rogaine. lmao
Have lived my entire life with NW2.
I don't really mind as long as my sides are cut low. Then it kind of doesn't show. Though have thought about hair transplant.
I had the hairline like number 2 but the big bald spot like on pic 5 when I was 26. I shaved completely, still getting laid. Don't cling to your hair if it's shitty, just shave it off, it will look better.
The hair I have left on top is so thin and light in color that it looks like I have no hair. I'm technically a NW 7 but I do have some hair on the top, you just can't really see it.
I feel like going to the family doc would be futile, they're dumb bitches the whole lot. I also have no idea if there is even a dermatologist in my city. I could try to set up an appointment but it feels like it would be horribly awkward to the point of suicide inducing with nothing much to show for it.
same question, I ordered it from those diy hrt stores 1 month ago but I am pretty sure the customs seized my order at this point lol
Check /hrtg/ in /lgbt/, there are plenty of stores and a link to a reddit motor search with all the stores, I am in France tho so only like 3 stores ship here, I ordered from dashpct the guy I talked with seemed pretty worthy but again the customs are pretty strict in EU and I ordered 300 pills...
No, no it does not. The hair that is NOT transplanted goes. The transplanted hair comes from regions of your head/part of the body that do not fall out. The issue is you get a hair transplant then after a few years the hair behind it starts receding. Then you just get that transplanted as well. It buys you a few years which is better than going on dick killing drugs. This however requires retards like you to save up for surgery, rather than adding yet another 'monthly subscription' : you know, netflix, discord nitro and fin.
just turned 27 this month. how's it looking bros... I've had long hair that I've tied back since I was 18, no one in my family is bald, my moms hairline is receded but she's also tied her hair forever
I don't understand. What's wrong with his skin? I feel like a lot of you guys don't go outside.
https://i.imgur.com/0KBuJvF.png
25 years old.... Tell me it isn't over bros...corners have been moving back...
Your hair looks fine. Some might consider you to have a "mature" hairline. But there's nothing really wrong with that. Don't listen to the people replying to your post trying to get you all worked up. They spend too much time online and not enough time actually seeing what typical people look like.
I have this exact same hairline, but it's been the same for years now with no thinning on the crown at all. It may stay like this for decades or it could potentially get worse. Keep a close eye on your crown, if it starts thinning at all or if you notice more hair than usual falling out when you wash it you have male pattern baldness. Right now it's just a mature hairline which isn't necessarily something to worry about.
I have this exact same hairline, but it's been the same for years now with no thinning on the crown at all. It may stay like this for decades or it could potentially get worse. Keep a close eye on your crown, if it starts thinning at all or if you notice more hair than usual falling out when you wash it you have male pattern baldness. Right now it's just a mature hairline which isn't necessarily something to worry about.
34 and somewhere between 2 and 3, but closer to 3.
I'm pretty tall so at least no one can see that it's also thinning at the back of my head, but the hairline is receding so much by now that just buzzing them short would probably look better.
only reason I haven't done it yet is because my scalp is kinda fucked and I am not sure how fucked up it would look.
I bought hair oil and it seems to give it moisture for a while. Light on shampoo, get one that isn't harsh on hair. Good moisturizer. Biotin supplements, not sure if they work.
So how do you make your hair less dry? My hair has always been dry. It doesn't shine very much and density is meh, but no signs of hair loss yet.
It felt brittle and dry because the individual hairs were thinner and therefore frizzier in appearance. It's not that the hair itself was any drier than normal. Simply that the texture of the hair was changing
I mean my hair was never not dry though. The texture did seem to change slowly after puberty ended as the general appearance has changed, no hair loss though. So what should I do?
Is it normal to see your scalp through your hair under lights if it's like 1-2 inches long? I can see my scalp through my hairline under the bathroom light.
Except my hair texture feels different, which is why I got spooked and now browsing threads like this. I'm 23, so I assume hormones changed since puberty. My hair feels softer and curlier than before and doesn't hold up the same way. My hairline is the same as when I was 16. So I have no idea what is going on.
This. Hair transplants literally saved MGK's career and now he is one of the biggest zoomer pop stars in the world. This shit is the closest thing to a miracle cure for hairlets and is absolutely worth it as long as you have the money.
The hair the transplant are follicles that aren't receptive to DHT, they will never fall out. The problem is continuing receeding behind the transplant, but he might literally just be covering that with what is essentially a top knot combover
I bought 120 tabs of fin, but I'm hesitant to use them because I'm not sure if my loss in hair density is androgenic or because I've been in a state of chronic distress since 2018.
Then sometimes I wonder "why bother?"
I literally talk to nobody and have been wearing hats all the time since before I even started losing hair density. Why even risk a 1% chance of becoming a depressed dicklet with gyno if I'm just going to be sitting in a room alone by myself anyway?
I’d keep an eye on it. It’s easy to go into denial mode until it’s too late. I was even getting compliments on how much hair I had up until I shaved it for fun during covid and could not believe how much recession my hairstyle was covering up. The amount of hair even covered up the beginning of a bald spot. Dermapen and minoxidil saved my hair thank god but If I hadn’t shaved it it absolutely would have been too late by the time I accepted that I was losing hair
I've been at 2 since I was 23
for a while I was taking pictures of my hairline daily, every time I got out of the shower, because I was scared I was balding. No change in a long time but I'm still paranoid. I don't want to go bald bros. I will kill myself before I go bald.
Every time I see a bald man in real life I can't help but laugh uncontrollably because it reminds me of these faggy posts that are made on this board daily.
Far as I'm concerned, if you're not getting crown thinning, fuck it: just use rosemary oil and take what you get. If your crown is thinning, fin min STAT. I've always had a widow's peak and somewhat wide temples, and comparing to pictures from 2017 AND 2012 (highschool grad), my hairline hasn't moved significantly if at all-- but since I'm almost 30, a few people have commented on it (only as soon as I mention my age, though). Everyone I know who's actually bald has been fucked in the crown by 20.
I know four brothers in their late 50s to mid 60s. Maybe all in their 60s, not sure.
Their dad was bald, their dad's dad was bald.
One of them has possibly almost all of his hair. Like, probably not even any thinning detected.
He has regularly done cardio all through his life.
One of them has most of his hair. He exercises, probably does cardio.
One of them kept most of his hair until his health declined in his 50s.
One of them worked outside, did a physical job but did not exercise.
He was "just shave it" tier in his mid to late 30s.
Without getting far into it and using four people as a whole sample - eating good food and doing cardio will probably do a lot.
balding usually comes from the mothers side mainly. Also, having a basic 101 understanding of how genetics works helps. It could be they all carry the gene but it is only active in one of them due to it coming far enough up the family tree. Much like how a couple where both parents have blue eyes could have a child with brown eyes if the brown eye gene is diluted enough through several pairings.
>Father have like the best hairs i ever saw on a man. Black with junevile shape at 62 years old. Only sign of being old is lower density compared to when he was younh >Pathernal grandfather was full bald by 25. But by looking at my father and his brother, it seems they didnt get his badlness gene. >Baldness is always a dominant trait so i suppose i should be safe from that side >Mathernal grandfather and mathernal uncle never had much hairs, but they kept them until death >No idea about my mathernal grandmother's father, but none of my gradmother's brothers were bald
Should i be safe? At 29 years old i had been stuck in a Norwood 1-2 for many years, basically since my early 20s . I dont have many hairs but i always had low density since i was a kid
You could post a pic on the internet and have 50 people telling you it's over and 50 telling you to relax. Your best bet it to go to a clinic, let them take a look at your scalp and hairs and tell you if there's any miniaturization. From there you can choose how to deal with it.
>literally just take finasteride
stop lying to people
finasteride cant and wont cause any regrowth, at all
it only works by bringing hairloss to a halt (if youre lucky, but most likely it will simply slow things down)
Finasteride in the studies shows regrowth for the majority of men. And yes, that goes for Caucacian males aswell as proven by both Merck's and the Italian studies.
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Finasteride is most effective on East Asians, who also coincidentally have the lowest rates of genetic balding so it's not fair.
I always feel bad when people with hair loss start talking about the elaborate natural remedies they're performing in order to save their hair.
Scalp massage, magic combs, rosemary oil, biotin supplements, special shampoos.
It's like they've acknowledged the severity of the situation, but refuse to do what is necessary to treat it.
Okay but seriously, does .25mg actually work? I've been taking it as a precaution to prevent future hair loss and I have not had sides or anything. Hair fall is just average. Should I continue on this dosage?
Hopefully one day you guys will discover the trick of just letting your hair grow a bit lmao. Not sure what the obession is with these gay ass combover haircuts that emphasise your hairloss.
You almost never see men who look like stage 1 on this graph. Nearly every man's hairline slopes back from his temples a bit.This is an advertising gimmick to get guys who aren't balding to buy hair loss products.
I have an juvenile hairline known as intermediate hairline but I am only 23 and have been taking Nutrafol for 2 months and Finasteride for 3 days. Paul Ryan, Sean Hannity, Brad Raider, and Judge Andrew Napolitano are men with perfect hairlines. David Schwimmer, Jamie Foxx, and Simon Cowell used to sport perfect hairlines but are now all norwood 2. Leonardo DiCaprio was Norwood 1 until 36 and Andrew Garfield until 35.
>I have an juvenile hairline known as intermediate hairline
*I have a juvenile hairline as an adult male known as an intermediate hairline*
You almost never see men who look like stage 1 on this graph. Nearly every man's hairline slopes back from his temples a bit.This is an advertising gimmick to get guys who aren't balding to buy hair loss products.
When I was 19 my hair started shedding like crazy. If I pass my hand by it on the shower there'll be dozens of hair strands.
I've been to like 3 dermatologists and none could tell if I was balding or not. Pretty frustrating.
From what I read on the Internet, balding is when your hair gets thinner when regrowing, so it shouldn't cause shedding. But that's what is happening.
4 years later and when I pull my hair back I can see that my left temple is receding. It's on norwood 2. The right temple is fine though.
Sometimes I cope by thinking this is just my hairline maturing. But at the end of the day I know that I'm probably balding. One of the dermatologists said I was probably balding and offered a bunch of products but I refused. From what I read online you either get hormones with sexual side effects or you use a product that will hold your hairline for a while, but once you stop taking it everything falls off at once. No thanks.
4 years of “shedding” and you have a slightly uneven juvenile hairline? Sure you just don’t have long hair? Which for men would be 7 inches in length or more?
Uneven hairlines happen and your hair still clearly grows. Excessive shedding while not balding is an issue on it’s own. You would likely get prescribed minoxidil.
That's my educated guess too but nobody knows for sure. The dermatologists said that sometimes balding involves shedding. One of them did blood tests and found a big B12 deficiency that I never addressed (took pills for 1 month but didn't test again), maybe one day I'll look into that.
You are balding. At 23, you should have a hairline like Chang's here [...]
This is simply not true. Mediterranean/Semitic hairline matures in the late teens, Black/Nordic/Celtic
matures mid 20s, South/Central Asian matures in the late 20s, Aboriginals of the Americas/Pacific Islands/Australia mature in the early 30s, and Eskimos in their mid 30s. 90% of non Aboriginal men will be norwood 2 BY 30.
NW3 at the front at 31 with no balding at the crown but i cant see it lasting another decade.
I have the money for a transplant when i need one but still curious if there is any other future medical "cures" on the horizon that wont make your dick fall off?
my grandad died with a full head of hair, still mostly black, his son, my uncle went horseshoe bald before his 30's, alot of genes come into play not just your mom and dad
At what point is it not male pattern baldness and just balding from old age? Cause my maternal grandpa is the only bald dude in my family but he started receding in his 60's.
the only reasons to care are gay ones. Either you want to impress other men or you want to be a slave to what a cunt thinks it wants. Mines going, i dont care, she doesnt care. Everything is dying, its the natural order.
your main period of balding is your 30s and 40s. you are in pretty bad shape.
what norwood am I?
you need to pull back your hair so we can see the extent of your temples receding.
1 but ugly as a sin and a mutt
Just say Latinx.
>latinx
start tretenoin to clear up that acne hiperpigmentation
Particleboard
Asian, unfortunately.
It's crazy how you can tell someone is Asian just by their eyebrows.
Ching ching chong love you long time
0-1 Not balding
If you have a hairline like this at age say 25, does that mean you're safe from the norwood reaper? I don't even have a widows peak yet, meanwhile people who go bald usually have one by the end of puberty.
you're never truly safe
You could experience gradual thinning of the hair as you age, but if you don't even have a widows peak, then you probably won't follow the norwood scale.
CHING CHONG PING PONG
I’m 38 and my hair started falling out a few months after getting over covid. I started using pic related and it came back thicker and more curly than before. Shit was weird.
I use Paul Mitchell tea tree too. Definitely noticed my hair was stronger and fewer strands when I shower. Just make sure it has Paul Mitchell on the bottle like in the pic, lots of fakes out there
>I’m 38 and my hair started falling out a few months after getting over covid.
lol
na it was the 10 boosters u got
I actually never got vaxxed. Just got the delta variant really bad two summers ago.
Damn dude, same situation. I was 37 when I caught COVID and very quickly after I started losing hair at an alarming rate. I’m on 0.5mg/day of Fin now and I’m back to my previous state, but I worry that I’ll have to up the dose soon.
30-120 a day isn’t an alarming rate btw. 0-9 on your pillow isn’t an alarming rate, nor are loose hairs on your head. Please explain in detail. Were 250+ coming out a day? Were whole clumps coming out?
Beyond 7 and do fine with females.
Don't be a creepy weirdo who looks like he jacks off too much and you're good.
Autism is no excuse, I'm on the spectrum. But my autistic teenage obsession was social interaction so that might color it I guess.
>and I only just started working out so it's not a physicality thing
>don't be a creepy weirdo
>calls women "females"
>Feh-mah-lees
Yep
I doubt he tells them that.
He knows how to handle the females, he can call them whatever the fuck he wants.
Mare
Cow
Hen
Feel free to call me bull or cock
women has been coopted by men in dresses so females is the only safe way to ensure the reader knows you're talking about chicks
mfw 29 and Norwood 4
>24
>completely bald
It's over
I know
I just gave up. tried min and fin for a few years but hairloss continued. decided to just shave it off and be done with it. I'm also a manlet so I'm probably just doing to live like a monk for the rest of my life. I've accepted the fact that I'll never get a gf or get married or do any of that shit. it's a liberating feeling but also a depressing one. if you're tall and have good face structure that shaving it might not be a bad idea. otherwise take fin and min and see if that does anything for you.
That's unlucky bro. I've been told to shave it but the back of my head is OK. Thinking of getting a transplant in Thailand this year if I can afford it. The back bit might save me.
Coconut oil has healing properties and its good for hair follicle stimulation. I've also read that sleeping with a wet towel on the scalp is good for keeping the skin hydrated. I'm going to try to recover from it bro, 23 this year and I won't be shaving it.
I started thinning during puberty. I'm also around 360lbs at 5'9 so my diet probably wasn't the best to be honest.
try castor oil atleast or rosemary or peppermint they work better you could use coconut oil as a carrier and leave them overnight if you really serious about recovering you need stronger stuff the oils i listed are one of the most effective ones, keep it with the massages rob from perfect hair health done a study proving they are effective look up his channel he got some really good info, and good luck my friend wish you the best in life my friend you deserve it for dealing with this shit this young
>360lbs at 5'9
Bro you are unhealthy as fuck. Not saying this to be mean, but hair is way down the body's priority list and if everything else is fucked up your hair will be too. It's seen as a sign of vitality for a reason. Fix your fucking diet and you might see some regrowth if it isn't actually genetic. At the very least you won't be a fat slob.
i went bald at like 20
at least we have each other
plenty of my uncles went bald before leaving HS, I'm the same, must run in the family
>Must run in the family
gee wiz, you reckon?
Better than having strands of hair that you have to constantly shave.
Norwood level anhero
27 at like 1.5. Just going to wait it out for now.
Can't tell if I have lost anything since I wasn't as paranoid before about hair until I came on this site.
Same age same stage as
Also wasn't paranoid but by any means I am not going to take finasteride or mino. My father is 57 and have same is also stage 1.5 - 2.
So for now I am just add rosemery oil and peppermint oil to my shampoo. If this does't help so be it. Not gonna become a fucking chud cause of hairloss.
>22
>Norwood 5
>no gf
I've been using flaxseed oil and coconut as a scalp massage (1x morning 20mins, 1x evening 20mins) but my hair is still receeding bros. There's guys older than me with full heads of hair.
How am I going to fix this? I want a gf but I look like I'm in my mid to late thirties.
bruh it's over you need a heavy duty regimen not coconut oil and massage, since you are still young if you have hair around the norwood 5 area you could be a hyper repsonder and gain alot back depends if you have hair or it's slick bald
How do you become a norwood 5 at 22? The fastest balding still takes like 5 years at least.
Some people start balding in their young teens. It's rare and it sucks but it does happen.
i know a 19 year old who went from 1 to 3.5 after a year
I'm a solid 4 at 25 but started to bald as soon as puberty hit.
Shit diet, common with retards that hate eating veggies fruits and different types of meat.
When are you retards going to learn? MPB is genetic. There are fat pieces of shit with full heads of hair. There are junkies with full heads of hair. There are anorexics with full heads of hair. There are homeless people with full heads of hair. Stop coping. Face reality.
Went to hs with a guy that was norwood 5 by 16. We joke that he's looked 30 for the past ten years.
You need finasteride, dutasteride and minoxidil not hippy bullshit
34 Norwood 5.5.
At 16 I was already at stage 2.
Doctor wouldn't give me any drugs because "it's just part of life"
Man to go back and kick that doctors ass now.
NW5 at 33yo
AMA
Did you at least get a wife or gf before you hit the wall?
>been at 2 since I was a teenager
I am always on the edge of catastrophe
>5 in front
>2 in back
>been that way since I was 18
Thankfully I have the sense to shave my head bald but when I get lazy and let it grow out I have to wear a hat in public to avoid shame
Alopecia areata?
I'm doing the Chad embrace right now and shaving only my neck but my beard also sucks and I don't know how long I can keep this up
42. Norwood is at 0. Hairline hasn’t moved at all. Cope and seethe scalplets.
Kys op
>balding before 60
It's unironically over. Lifting only means you're coping.
It's my body and I'll cope if I want to.
>It's my body
yeah and it's shite, cueball
You're never safe unless you're 65 y/o with a full head of white hair.
I've seen dudes with the thickest, blackest most dense hair that almost looked like a wild boar, go bald in a matter of 2 years at 35+
I've seen dudes who were norwood 3 since they were 20 keep it past their 40 (with some thinning, of course)
Even my brother who has been a norwood 1 all his life has started thinning at 43.
It’s just dumb luck
>.t went from NW1 to NW3 in a year when I turned 35
It’s karmic justice for me laughing at baldies in my 20s
>I've seen dudes with the thickest, blackest most dense hair that almost looked like a wild boar, go bald in a matter of 2 years at 35+
Yup, happened to me at 39. Within 2 years I lost 50% of my hair. No signs of balding before that, I had a Norwood 1 up till then. Took my hair for granted. Luckily I landed a wife 5 years ago and she seems fine with the balding.
Fuck bros you're scaring me.
Same here, though not quite so late. Had full head of hair that I got complemented on at 33. All of a sudden every time I ran my hand through my hair or took a shower there would be hairs everywhere. Was incredibly surprising to me, as I thought for sure I’d be safe at that point with no hair loss. Thank god for fits hair obsession, I snapped out of denial pretty quickly and started dermapenning and minoxidil and that saved most of it. Even mid 60s is no guarantee. My dad always had a full head of hair even up to like 64 but after that he started getting significant recession and a bald spot.
>I'm 36
It's over regardless, why even care?
>he's not at 6
not gonna make it
Just started fin because I'm on steroids and started shedding and I'm 35 so luckily I started fin on time I'm still N1
fin only helps with test, wouldnt bother with other roids.
I'm 36 too and I just started thinning in the front, feels like.
Will keep an eye out and see, I felt invincible up till now...
I'm an 1.2 at 22. My hair is extremely dense when it grows, so I buzz it.
Im 1 at 34, is it over for me?
Stop giving a fuck. Embrace being bald. Bald is based. Don't even look in the mirror. Walk around not giving a fuck about it and your balls will hang lower than these pathetic cucks blowing their money on rogaine. lmao
Someone post the image of a bunch of celebrities with male pattern boldness photoshopped on them.
Underrated post
Why would anyone want to look like the disgusting subhuman in your pic?
Have lived my entire life with NW2.
I don't really mind as long as my sides are cut low. Then it kind of doesn't show. Though have thought about hair transplant.
Test
NW5 at 18.
idk how to cope
Shit
Pics?
it all happened in the span of a year.
it's hard accepting that no girl will ever get interested in me
buzz it
micropigmentation
i shave it every week. It's annoying and from behind i look like an old man.
yeah, thats what the micropigmentation is for
sure you're still bald, but it doesnt look like you're bald because you're balding
I had the hairline like number 2 but the big bald spot like on pic 5 when I was 26. I shaved completely, still getting laid. Don't cling to your hair if it's shitty, just shave it off, it will look better.
>4 at age 20
>natty and haven't even touched creatine
Get on the fin
The hair I have left on top is so thin and light in color that it looks like I have no hair. I'm technically a NW 7 but I do have some hair on the top, you just can't really see it.
I was basically born a NW2
Now at 33 I'm a NW4 without the balding in the crown.
Transplant scheduled for July in Istanbul lads
plenty of top surgeons in england and you decide to go to turkey.
I wouldn’t fuck with my hair/grafts like that
How do you get fin in EU? I don't even know which type of doctor I should go to or what to say to them. Are the online prescription stuff scams?
>How do you get fin in EU?
I got it prescribed by the family doc. Worst case is you have to go to an actual dermatologist.
I feel like going to the family doc would be futile, they're dumb bitches the whole lot. I also have no idea if there is even a dermatologist in my city. I could try to set up an appointment but it feels like it would be horribly awkward to the point of suicide inducing with nothing much to show for it.
Which one? they do seem pretty dodgy.
Check /hrtg/ in /lgbt/, there are plenty of stores and a link to a reddit motor search with all the stores, I am in France tho so only like 3 stores ship here, I ordered from dashpct the guy I talked with seemed pretty worthy but again the customs are pretty strict in EU and I ordered 300 pills...
same question, I ordered it from those diy hrt stores 1 month ago but I am pretty sure the customs seized my order at this point lol
Fuaaark I'm NWD2 at 18... Should I save up for turkey ? I don't want to fuck up my health with finasteride or minoxidil
cold water + stop using headwear
You have to take fin after a hair transplant otherwise it just goes again
No, no it does not. The hair that is NOT transplanted goes. The transplanted hair comes from regions of your head/part of the body that do not fall out. The issue is you get a hair transplant then after a few years the hair behind it starts receding. Then you just get that transplanted as well. It buys you a few years which is better than going on dick killing drugs. This however requires retards like you to save up for surgery, rather than adding yet another 'monthly subscription' : you know, netflix, discord nitro and fin.
Reject fin
embrace GT20029
actually going full CHINA NUMBA WAN on this one
just turned 27 this month. how's it looking bros... I've had long hair that I've tied back since I was 18, no one in my family is bald, my moms hairline is receded but she's also tied her hair forever
It’s more over than I thought was ever even possible
im more concerned about the state of your skin anon
I don't understand. What's wrong with his skin? I feel like a lot of you guys don't go outside.
Your hair looks fine. Some might consider you to have a "mature" hairline. But there's nothing really wrong with that. Don't listen to the people replying to your post trying to get you all worked up. They spend too much time online and not enough time actually seeing what typical people look like.
jack?
Also 27 and with the same level of receding.
If you look like Jude Law you can get away with it. Otherwise, it's over.
I have this exact same hairline, but it's been the same for years now with no thinning on the crown at all. It may stay like this for decades or it could potentially get worse. Keep a close eye on your crown, if it starts thinning at all or if you notice more hair than usual falling out when you wash it you have male pattern baldness. Right now it's just a mature hairline which isn't necessarily something to worry about.
it might be widows peak
If you reach 3 before 35 you might consider yourself dead. OP is kinda lucky
34 and somewhere between 2 and 3, but closer to 3.
I'm pretty tall so at least no one can see that it's also thinning at the back of my head, but the hairline is receding so much by now that just buzzing them short would probably look better.
only reason I haven't done it yet is because my scalp is kinda fucked and I am not sure how fucked up it would look.
28 and still ain't balding! My dad was never bald either, hairlets just can't fucking cope lol
stop cooming and see your hair grow back before your own eyes
is there any science behind that? I have been cooming every day for the last month and I became more insecure about my hair day by day
Look, maybe I'm going insane, but my hair texture feels softer than usual. For like the past year. Should I be worried? Should I begin taking fin?
Keep an eye on it. My hair started feeling brittle and dry right before hairloss accelerated.
I thought hair loss tends to happens more often when your hair is greasy since it suffocates the follicles.
It's both. You need the right amount of moisture on your scalp.
So how do you make your hair less dry? My hair has always been dry. It doesn't shine very much and density is meh, but no signs of hair loss yet.
I bought hair oil and it seems to give it moisture for a while. Light on shampoo, get one that isn't harsh on hair. Good moisturizer. Biotin supplements, not sure if they work.
That's what I've started on.
It felt brittle and dry because the individual hairs were thinner and therefore frizzier in appearance. It's not that the hair itself was any drier than normal. Simply that the texture of the hair was changing
I mean my hair was never not dry though. The texture did seem to change slowly after puberty ended as the general appearance has changed, no hair loss though. So what should I do?
Is it normal to see your scalp through your hair under lights if it's like 1-2 inches long? I can see my scalp through my hairline under the bathroom light.
25 years old.... Tell me it isn't over bros...corners have been moving back...
maybe try 1/4g of fin and see if you get side effects
Not him, but this doesn't give me any sides.
How the fuck do you know if that small dosage works?
this is the smallest dosage at which many people get effects, but almost no one gets side effects.
You're supposed to take pictures to monitor progress. It explains in the isntructions
I am in the earliest stages of hair recession. Just slight thinning temples. It looks the same as it did 2 years ago. I have pics from then.
Good for you
Except my hair texture feels different, which is why I got spooked and now browsing threads like this. I'm 23, so I assume hormones changed since puberty. My hair feels softer and curlier than before and doesn't hold up the same way. My hairline is the same as when I was 16. So I have no idea what is going on.
Thinning
Haha you're fucked, you're gonna be looking real bad at 35. Kiss your hair goodbye, brother
Get on fin now or you're gonna be done by age 30
Why do you guys cry so much about this when hair transplant exists?
Oh, fuck! Thanks for reminding me.
>tfw balding and poor
You still have to take finasteride after a transplant. Balding will only truly become a nonissue when hair cloning exists. Maybe in 10 years.
This. Hair transplants literally saved MGK's career and now he is one of the biggest zoomer pop stars in the world. This shit is the closest thing to a miracle cure for hairlets and is absolutely worth it as long as you have the money.
does he take fin though? How can you maintain a hair transplant without it?
The hair the transplant are follicles that aren't receptive to DHT, they will never fall out. The problem is continuing receeding behind the transplant, but he might literally just be covering that with what is essentially a top knot combover
I wish his career died though because he made this cover with a hog https://youtu.be/3Pebl3219QQ
Case in point
Forgot to attach pic.
It's not a meme either. People with class two overbites (a LOT of people) seem to be basically guaranteed to go bald
Wtf it's not letting me post pictures. But it's a picture of Andrew Tate. Classic recessive jaw followed male pattern baldness
Was a 2.5-2.8 but now I’m more of a 2, slowly becoming a 1 because of the treatment I’ve been on for the past half year.
I just hit norwood 1 at 30. I pray that it doesn't worsen
I bought 120 tabs of fin, but I'm hesitant to use them because I'm not sure if my loss in hair density is androgenic or because I've been in a state of chronic distress since 2018.
Then sometimes I wonder "why bother?"
I literally talk to nobody and have been wearing hats all the time since before I even started losing hair density. Why even risk a 1% chance of becoming a depressed dicklet with gyno if I'm just going to be sitting in a room alone by myself anyway?
Where did you buy them from if you are in eu please
Has anyone taken fin for a while, then stopped and their hair loss never returned? I have read a few people who had this happen to them.
So fucking sick of this meme.
A friends boyfriend at college was bald at 20 something. I've known old dudes that were like 70 with most of their hair.
Its genetics and chance.
>started taking finasteride for like $2.50/month
>balding stopped
wow!
where do you get fin for that price?
I've been on stage 2 from roughly 12 years old through 35 years old, am I going to survive?
I’d keep an eye on it. It’s easy to go into denial mode until it’s too late. I was even getting compliments on how much hair I had up until I shaved it for fun during covid and could not believe how much recession my hairstyle was covering up. The amount of hair even covered up the beginning of a bald spot. Dermapen and minoxidil saved my hair thank god but If I hadn’t shaved it it absolutely would have been too late by the time I accepted that I was losing hair
I've been at 2 since I was 23
for a while I was taking pictures of my hairline daily, every time I got out of the shower, because I was scared I was balding. No change in a long time but I'm still paranoid. I don't want to go bald bros. I will kill myself before I go bald.
ill be 7 soon
I have been at 2 for a long like the last 5 years. I got a big meaty skull to go along with it.
>33 years old
>stage 1
I thank the gods for their favour
Every time I see a bald man in real life I can't help but laugh uncontrollably because it reminds me of these faggy posts that are made on this board daily.
>22
>I guess 1 or less?
my hair line pretty straight
>my hairline hasn't changed at all I'll just keep an eye on it
Reminder that the human brain is amazingly good at deceiving itself
I've got pictures of myself aged 20 with the same NW2 hairline that I have in my mid 30s.
Cool. Lets see them
I don't understand this meme, it doesn't have any basedjaks.
Far as I'm concerned, if you're not getting crown thinning, fuck it: just use rosemary oil and take what you get. If your crown is thinning, fin min STAT. I've always had a widow's peak and somewhat wide temples, and comparing to pictures from 2017 AND 2012 (highschool grad), my hairline hasn't moved significantly if at all-- but since I'm almost 30, a few people have commented on it (only as soon as I mention my age, though). Everyone I know who's actually bald has been fucked in the crown by 20.
https://www.longdom.org/open-access/malocclusion-and-hair-loss-an-intimate-relationship-44424.html
Did you know there is a strong link between being a chinlet and being bald?
I know four brothers in their late 50s to mid 60s. Maybe all in their 60s, not sure.
Their dad was bald, their dad's dad was bald.
One of them has possibly almost all of his hair. Like, probably not even any thinning detected.
He has regularly done cardio all through his life.
One of them has most of his hair. He exercises, probably does cardio.
One of them kept most of his hair until his health declined in his 50s.
One of them worked outside, did a physical job but did not exercise.
He was "just shave it" tier in his mid to late 30s.
Without getting far into it and using four people as a whole sample - eating good food and doing cardio will probably do a lot.
balding usually comes from the mothers side mainly. Also, having a basic 101 understanding of how genetics works helps. It could be they all carry the gene but it is only active in one of them due to it coming far enough up the family tree. Much like how a couple where both parents have blue eyes could have a child with brown eyes if the brown eye gene is diluted enough through several pairings.
sideburns
moustache
mullet
aviator glasses
literally all it takes to look good bald. if you can't grow a beard just go clean shave instead but try to grow sideburns, they are essential.
11 days post hair transplant. Rate?
Turkey? How much?
Are you trolling brah? Your hairline is way too low now and it doesn't look natural
This. You don't have a forehead you have a 2.5 head boon
looks like drake
What Norwood is this?
-2
You (>implying) have a threehead.
They botched it. You have a two inch forehead kek
>Just fuse my hairline and my eyebrows bro
Hairline too low.
No way this is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=IlUlou-fyCk
Obvious photoshop.
Suggests otherwise
>Father have like the best hairs i ever saw on a man. Black with junevile shape at 62 years old. Only sign of being old is lower density compared to when he was younh
>Pathernal grandfather was full bald by 25. But by looking at my father and his brother, it seems they didnt get his badlness gene. >Baldness is always a dominant trait so i suppose i should be safe from that side
>Mathernal grandfather and mathernal uncle never had much hairs, but they kept them until death
>No idea about my mathernal grandmother's father, but none of my gradmother's brothers were bald
Should i be safe? At 29 years old i had been stuck in a Norwood 1-2 for many years, basically since my early 20s . I dont have many hairs but i always had low density since i was a kid
You could post a pic on the internet and have 50 people telling you it's over and 50 telling you to relax. Your best bet it to go to a clinic, let them take a look at your scalp and hairs and tell you if there's any miniaturization. From there you can choose how to deal with it.
You're fucked. Not because of your hair, but because you are fearfully posting about it on IST at the age of 36.
Probably, you may become 3-4 ish at worst when you are closer to 60 but that won't matter
tfw the norwood reaper cometh
i was 2 at age 15
i'm still 2 12 years later
What does hair have to do with fitness?
I’m NW1 and going strong. Pic rel.
Based, you need to grow it longer though.
KEK grow one side out and comb over just to continue the stereotype forward. Carry the baton as it were. For all older men who comb over.
the temples don't regrow, do they?
The temples are the easiest to regrow.
Don't give me hope
literally just take finasteride
it's that easy
you don't need faith
>literally just take finasteride
stop lying to people
finasteride cant and wont cause any regrowth, at all
it only works by bringing hairloss to a halt (if youre lucky, but most likely it will simply slow things down)
Finasteride in the studies shows regrowth for the majority of men. And yes, that goes for Caucacian males aswell as proven by both Merck's and the Italian studies.
Finasteride is most effective on East Asians, who also coincidentally have the lowest rates of genetic balding so it's not fair.
I'm a 4 at 35 so I'd say you're good to go champ.
28
6'5
240
6 fig job
1 Norwood scale
Still no gf
I always feel bad when people with hair loss start talking about the elaborate natural remedies they're performing in order to save their hair.
Scalp massage, magic combs, rosemary oil, biotin supplements, special shampoos.
It's like they've acknowledged the severity of the situation, but refuse to do what is necessary to treat it.
I'm a norwood 4 at 30, was never really bothered because still getting bitches, just keep it short.
I won't take the fin and min poison.
Okay but seriously, does .25mg actually work? I've been taking it as a precaution to prevent future hair loss and I have not had sides or anything. Hair fall is just average. Should I continue on this dosage?
Only on IST can some complete retard be concerned about a Norwood 2 at 36. There are people at 4 before 20 (just see this thread), you are lucky
Lads what would my odds be of reversing the thinning up top if I got on fin or fin+min?
Crown is always thinner than the rest of the head. You're acting delusional, calm down.
Help
Hopefully one day you guys will discover the trick of just letting your hair grow a bit lmao. Not sure what the obession is with these gay ass combover haircuts that emphasise your hairloss.
You almost never see men who look like stage 1 on this graph. Nearly every man's hairline slopes back from his temples a bit.This is an advertising gimmick to get guys who aren't balding to buy hair loss products.
I have an juvenile hairline known as intermediate hairline but I am only 23 and have been taking Nutrafol for 2 months and Finasteride for 3 days. Paul Ryan, Sean Hannity, Brad Raider, and Judge Andrew Napolitano are men with perfect hairlines. David Schwimmer, Jamie Foxx, and Simon Cowell used to sport perfect hairlines but are now all norwood 2. Leonardo DiCaprio was Norwood 1 until 36 and Andrew Garfield until 35.
>I have an juvenile hairline known as intermediate hairline
*I have a juvenile hairline as an adult male known as an intermediate hairline*
Adolescent boys do, not grown men though, usually
look at the boxer mikey garcia nw0
>almost never
why does hair feel thinner as it gets longer?
When I was 19 my hair started shedding like crazy. If I pass my hand by it on the shower there'll be dozens of hair strands.
I've been to like 3 dermatologists and none could tell if I was balding or not. Pretty frustrating.
From what I read on the Internet, balding is when your hair gets thinner when regrowing, so it shouldn't cause shedding. But that's what is happening.
4 years later and when I pull my hair back I can see that my left temple is receding. It's on norwood 2. The right temple is fine though.
Sometimes I cope by thinking this is just my hairline maturing. But at the end of the day I know that I'm probably balding. One of the dermatologists said I was probably balding and offered a bunch of products but I refused. From what I read online you either get hormones with sexual side effects or you use a product that will hold your hairline for a while, but once you stop taking it everything falls off at once. No thanks.
4 years of “shedding” and you have a slightly uneven juvenile hairline? Sure you just don’t have long hair? Which for men would be 7 inches in length or more?
No I have short hair and cut it monthly
I go to new barbers often and they always comment that I'm shedding. The cleaning lady at work often comments about how much I shed. It's crazy.
Also I'm not sure Norwood 2 is juvenile even if it's uneven.
Uneven hairlines happen and your hair still clearly grows. Excessive shedding while not balding is an issue on it’s own. You would likely get prescribed minoxidil.
That's my educated guess too but nobody knows for sure. The dermatologists said that sometimes balding involves shedding. One of them did blood tests and found a big B12 deficiency that I never addressed (took pills for 1 month but didn't test again), maybe one day I'll look into that.
21 with fine curls
I’m fucked aren’t I boys
Jesus christ hair loss doesn’t begin at the crown. Diffusion hairloss happens but mostly in older women not young men. Where is your hairline at?
Been big for a while but I’ve always had a massive forehead
This pic was from a while ago and yes my scalp isn’t as gross as it was then
How did he do it bros?
combovermaxxing
>fin kills your dick
Then how do you explain my painfully turgid penis throbbing in anticipation as I type this post.
Check mate
I'm like a 2 at 23. Am I in the clear for now or should I consider taking fin+min?
>Anything higher than 1 before 30.
Dermatologist now.
This is simply not true. Mediterranean/Semitic hairline matures in the late teens, Black/Nordic/Celtic
matures mid 20s, South/Central Asian matures in the late 20s, Aboriginals of the Americas/Pacific Islands/Australia mature in the early 30s, and Eskimos in their mid 30s. 90% of non Aboriginal men will be norwood 2 BY 30.
You missed East Asians
Early 30s
You are balding. At 23, you should have a hairline like Chang's here
NW3 at the front at 31 with no balding at the crown but i cant see it lasting another decade.
I have the money for a transplant when i need one but still curious if there is any other future medical "cures" on the horizon that wont make your dick fall off?
>picrel at 24
Am I gonna make it?
anyone in your family bald?
My Dad is in his mid 50s, white, and only at stage 2.
I'm gonna make it.
my grandad died with a full head of hair, still mostly black, his son, my uncle went horseshoe bald before his 30's, alot of genes come into play not just your mom and dad
At what point is it not male pattern baldness and just balding from old age? Cause my maternal grandpa is the only bald dude in my family but he started receding in his 60's.
the only reasons to care are gay ones. Either you want to impress other men or you want to be a slave to what a cunt thinks it wants. Mines going, i dont care, she doesnt care. Everything is dying, its the natural order.
also mine didnt start thinning until i did that meme diet where you eat butter all the time and pretend its good like a retard
>24
>Solid Norwood 3 in front
>still no thinning in the back
>Favorite word is Bazinga