im overweight. should I cut, bulk, or stay at maintenance caloric intake for maximum gains?

im overweight. should I cut, bulk, or stay at maintenance caloric intake for maximum gains? I understand putting on muscle requires caloric surplus but since I'm overweight I'm wondering if I can build muscle efficiently while losing fat on a cut

CRIME Shirt $21.68

DMT Has Friends For Me Shirt $21.68

CRIME Shirt $21.68

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should first overcome your need for instant gratification because weight loss and muscle gain take a long time. a good place to start would be to quit asking the same thing that gets asked every day and read the goddamned sticky

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sticky recommends cutting, I want to hear different perspectives

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        natty lifting doesn't require a bulk because you can at max put on like 2 pounds of mucle a year. Bulking only really works when you are on roids, because you can make use of that extra weight. You should realistically be in the normal range of bmi because natty max would only be at the very upper range of that and maybe slightly overweight if you are really on it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >can only gain 2 lbs of muscle per year
          Holy frick what level of dyel blackpilling are you on right now?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nta but this highly depends on whether the lifter is a novice or not. in your first year of lifting, you can easily put on 10+ pounds of muscle because of newbie gains. but after years of lifting, 2lbs/year sounds pretty accurate.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I was gonna post far less actually like less than a pound but im sure you are 6 months in and will easily hit 4 plate bench in 2 years at your current rate kek

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is nonsense, holy shit please ignore this cuckminded idiot. You can revolutionize your body in a year if you do it right. The sky is the limit, you dont need PEDs for greatness.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You want to finish your beginner phase around 20% bf.
        Cut or bulk, slowly, depending on where you are now

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I recommend cutting your wrist

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lift weights and eat in calorie deficit fatass

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're fat you can keep building muscle and lose fat at the same time. Hell I was 25% bf to 13%bf and I'm still making PBs.

    Do a little YouTube searching and find a vid on body recomposition. Remember it's all about calories surplus and deficit, so if some fitness grifter is telling you to go vegan/go carnivore/ go keto/ go raw meat/ go milk and cheese only/ go fasting because "trust me bro. My (bullshit method) is the only one that works"

    But yeah, avoid the grifters and do a body recomp if you're truly fat.
    >And don't get your advice from IST 90% of the people here are doomed, incel, "crab in a bucket" losers who would much rather encourage a stranger on the internets downfall then for them to succeed.
    >It's very weird

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's the pic. Don't want my damn face on IST. Cause god knows I'll end up on some guys private folder

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oof, too late, you are in my folder. And I am unzipping my pants...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yep, this is definitelly gonna be posted in dyel general

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thank you anon your nipples made me cum

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Hell I was 25% bf to 13%bf
        Where's the 13% bf pic? you look 20+ in both photos

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nice tummy :3
        (you are now in my tummy folder)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        right doesnt look like 13%. Other than that, you might wanna consider getting more muscles, but its not required for normies standards, you look good enough

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I came from 30% to 15% in 2 months easily. And it sucks, now I am 65kg weakling.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    12>20>15>10>35>40>25>30
    apart from 12 they're all gross af tbdesu

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cut off seed's oil, sugar and white bread completely for few weeks and you will see instant result, fatso.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > im overweight

    Didn’t read past this. You should never be overweight as a man. There is never an excuse and anybody who tells you there is can’t be trusted.

    Lose weight and become a normal man before proceeding any further

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should cut ofc.
    Always get to target bf% first then maximize hypertrophy by lean gaining.
    You can recompose in your case if you haven’t trained for an extended time or are a novice but I recommend you to focus solely on fat loss. It’s hard enough. Going for opposing targets costs efficiency and increases difficulty.

    Godspeed

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >15% still looks like shit
    Holy frick

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    been at 12% since i started lifting. do i just need to eat less?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are there any recommended smart scales that actually measure body fat percentages? The current scale that I'm using seems like it's only making an estimate based on my age/weight/BMI/etc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      use electrical resistance

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what my current scale claims to do, but I'm looking for an alternative to that if others have gotten more reliable results.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          get a better scale
          something they would use in a doctor's office

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are complete bullshit. You can not get a reliable measurement out of them. Completely useless junk and a ripoff if you pay for an expensive one.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're ass blasted because you thought you were 15 percent and you're actually 28 percent, and you're taking it out on the measurement device. Bioelectric impedance is not as accurate as dexa or underwater weighing, but it is reliable. It's not inter-method comparable to calipers or density measurement techniques, but it is intra-method reliable. If it says you're 28 percent, you might be 25, but if it says you started at 28 and went to 10, you might have started at 25 and dropped to 12, but the measurement tool was useful, and it was a reliable indicator of whether your deficit and training was working or not to recomp in the direction desired.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Look man, the scale told me i was 8% body fat when I was 10kg fatter.
          I would be negative body fat % if the fricking thing was anywhere close accurate. And its an expensive omron one with handles.
          Im probably around 15-16% now that Im 10kg lighter, and the fricking thing gives me error, results out of range.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have used a Tanita and one called Escali from Amazon. Both have been reliable indicators of trends in my bf. Idc if I'm 8, 10, or 12 percent in reality when the scale says 10. I'll use the mirror to determine my cut's endpoint and the scale to ensure that my recomp is going in the right direction.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should start lifting

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its not binary, you have a ratio of trying to cut fat vs trying to gain muscle, just ajust the ratio over time.
    You should always be doing both in some proportion but just ajust the goals over time.

    If you need to be told what to do;
    Focus on fat loss and ensure you dont lose muscle via resistance training to prevent that.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cut while lifting until you cannot progress, those will be your maintenance weights. Keep lifting that and do cardio until you get lean enough (or preferred body image). Then start eating on a surplus until you get back on track for a progressive overload.

    I am 12% bf according to your pic but I think I’m more on 14. It’s incorrect, otherwise I have body dysmorphia.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In general, cut first, but there are caveats. If you are under 25, just lift as much as you can recover from and eat ad libidum of healthy whole foods for 6 months and see what happens before applying any pressure on the diet lever. If you've done a lot of cuts or restrictive eating in the past and you've already been in a deficit for months, you should stop cutting for a while. If you are 10 lb surplus fat but well muscled and have decent cardio health, probably you should lift hard, eat maintenance for 6 weeks, then adjust to more cardio and slightly more lifting volume at lower weight for 6weeks at slight deficit, then alternate those two training and eating patterns and adjust their lengths to reach your goals

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >overweight
    >bulk
    just literally, how low is your iq? genuinely fricking curious

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Twf be at 15% according to tape measurements, but look like I'm at 25%
      It never even started. Also 25% looks best on the right

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *