>Some strength
>Good endurance because cardio and high volume
>Good aesthetics
Sure, you can say it's bad for athleticism, but is it really? Back in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s, almost nobody did sports specific training, but it still worked. People were fit and athletic.
The real bad shit of lifters who can't move started with powerbuilding in the 2010s. Before the powerlifting meta, fitness training was 3x8-12 for everyone, even athletes, and it worked fine. They looked better, too.
So is modern sports science a load of shit and we should all do moderate bodybuilding workouts for everything?
Pic related is how MMA guys looked in the 90s.
nice opinions, you gonna post your body to back it up or nah?
Why do we care what they looked like in the 90s? Isn't that when mma was completely untested?
You think modern athletes are natty?
it's still trivial to beat tests even in the UFC (most tested league) tbh, you just don't tell USADA where you're going to be and get a "whereabouts failure" instead of a random tests
but you can get like 3 whereabouts failures per year before it counts as a failed test, so as long as you run shit with short half life you'll likely never get caught
It's less about the looks and more about the fact that they trained contrary to modern sports science, yet it didn't hurt their athleticism or strength at all.
you have to understand that lifting is, by definition, GPP (general physical preparation) for a sport like MMA
so the specific lifting modality, as long as it's not something totally fricked up like bosu ball dildo squats, does not actually matter very much at all, you don't need to squat/bench/deadlift (in fact most of these athletes don't) or train in lower rep ranges, you can straight up bodybuild and get mostly the same benefits
look up the lifting programs for top BJJ guys like gordon ryan or nicky rodriguez, they do straight up brosplit hypertrophy programs
That's what I'm saying, bodybuilding is the best GPP.
Lol no. Bodybuilders look like morons if they try a sport
he's not saying to become an IFBB pro to improve your sport performance, moron
he's saying to train for hypertrophy
People that train for single muscle hypertrophy look like morons if they pick up a sport. Hence it is terrible general physical preparedness. They are uncoordinated, disproportionate, have terrible stability and can’t apply strength
as opposed to people that do rippetoe squatmornings for 3x5, who are the pinnacle of athleticism and can pick up any sport
>Pic related is how MMA guys looked in the 90s.
Pride was in the early 00s not the nineties.
The testing in MMA is a fricking joke. Pride was openly admitting that all their atheletes were on steroids. Jon Jones has a fricking pass from USADA that he can dope freely. He has failed multiple drug tests and has never been reprimanded. Every champion that ever was in the UFC has been on steroids. Also OPs argument is bullshit This guy was heavyweight king in early MMA. First MMA champ ever in the 90s Royce Gracie, was a lanklet. Fricking TIm Sylvia was the UFC champ in 00s and was a fat dude.
not perfect but it's pretty good. I used to be one of the strength only gays for sport. Yes strength helped but to an extent, because cardio is what matters most and then skill. I started BB and still felt strong for the sport, any lifting will benefit whatever sport you do tbh because you can't not be strong bodybuilding, the same way you can't not get muscle mass by benching 200kgs for 5 reps.
In most sports there's diminishing returns on strength numbers, unless you weightlift there's no benefit deadlifting 800kgs in the process getting fat and slow and losing out on cardio to be a good football player. So in my opinion bodybuilding is good enough. tbh 8reps is perfect in between and as always you should alternate between strength and high reps anyway.
The only time bodybuilding gets in the way is when you become one of those autistic homosexuals who look like jay cutler while trying to become a basketball player. That's the BB equivalent of being a fat powerlifter while trying to be better at basketball.
TLDR: lifting is just a supplement not the main focus if you're lifting for your sport
>Pic related is how MMA guys looked in the 90s
Mma guys in the 90's were pissing a shade of neon green from steroid use that could usually pop radioactivity detectors
>>Good endurance because cardio and high volume
literally no one does cardio
you're dumb as frick
bodybuilding is absolute dogshit for pretty much any athlete. If you've ever played a sport you'd understand why.
>big muscles are not functional when moving
>no explosive/force production training
>small ranges of motion induce chronic muscle tightness/less flexibility
>unnecessary weight gain
>more mass your body needs to supply oxygen to
>170 lb 1/2/3/4 for 1 rep
>2:04 800m time
>205 lb 2/3/4/5 for 3 reps
>literally 3 handle 800m time
>205 lb 2/3/4/5 for 3 reps
These ratios don’t make any sense, you should bench more than 315 if you can press 225lbs strict
>These ratios don’t make any sense
are you 90 IQ? I don't actually have to explain this, do I
Explain your other lifts should be higher if you have a 225lbs OHP unless you sandbagged them
>small ranges of motion
What
if you actually were into bodybuilding, (and looked good, because you obviously look like dog shit) you'd know the significance of time under tension and how to manipulate range of motion to target specific muscles in isolation