I think the poster you're responding to (and others confused by your claim) don't realize you mean, specifically, "you can't bulk on red meat." I think they're thinking you mean "you can't eat red meat while you bulk."
Obviously, you can eat steak with buttered potatoes and drink glasses of whole milk with that meal, but that's not "bulking on red meat," which, as you correctly say, won't work because red meat is too filling to bulk on. Anyone who disagrees is free to try to eat 1.5 pounds of ground beef in one sitting.
>bulking on red meat = eating burgers and fried fish and spaghetti and cole slaw
Thanks for confirming you are retarded.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>1.5 pounds >3 doubles 3*2=6 burgers burgers typically weigh 4-6 ounces 4*6=24 ounces is a pound and a half >have a nice day dumb gay
1 month ago
Anonymous
Damn you got outmathed by a shit skin you really should have a nice day
1 month ago
Anonymous
>1.5 pounds >3 doubles 3*2=6 burgers burgers typically weigh 4-6 ounces 4*6=24 ounces is a pound and a half >have a nice day dumb gay
Imagine missing the point this hard. If you can't comprehend what my point was by this point, I don't think you will ever comprehend it. Imagine thinking that eating fried foods and burgers covered in goyslop sauce is "bulking on red meat" lmao. >typical low quality fast-food burger is 6 ounces
I don't even know what to say to this ridiculous claim.
I don't think you like meat very much because I can surely eat a 500 gram steak more easily than I can drink 1,5 litres of whole milk. And I fucking love milk.
I wish
sometimes when I read posts like this or from carnivores/keto/fasters I dont understand how people struggle to gain weight, if I wont constrain myself I can eat like somebody who weigh 20kg+ more than me if I am not restraining myself and I am not even super fat or have alot of muscle (skinnyfat), gaining weight is literally easy if you arent a mega pussy
>Eating huge portions of meat such as steak or ribs can cause meat intolerance.
This is not actually a real thing, in case you thought it was. This has never been documented anywhere in the world for any animal, including humans.
Cant tell if you're trolling but beef intolerance is a thing. Google has the answer why. I had too lookup why I was getting diarrhea every time I ate steak. I've tried to cook it right through instead of medium rare and it still does it
And I bet you're eating much more than "just beef." How many French fries or other fried food or mashed potatoes or seed oil-covered rice did you eat with your meal? >eat 800 calories of meat and 2000 calories of other shit >get diarrhea >must be the meat!
God, you're so stupid.
Anon, meat can be fatty and greasy which increases bile. Is it really that far-fetched?
1 month ago
Anonymous
You have literally no idea what you're talking about and sound like a complete retard when you declare that the moderate amount of red meat you ate (a minority of your calories) with your seed oil-covered sides is what caused your diarrhea, you fat gay.
It’s very expensive and probably kind of boring. I find bulking is easier when I change up the food I’m eating otherwise I start to hate life. 6 eggs every day the same way with chicken rice and broccoli for lunch and chicken rice and some vegetable for dinner got boring really quickly, and I’m a pretty good cook. Now I mix up my meats and carb sources, and make a variety of different recipes and it makes bulking way more bearable.
>Not really, it'll fuck up your shitter if you have it every night
Schizo claim, not true. >And lean red meat isn't tasty like lean chicken
What does this even mean? You have to season chicken (i.e. cook it with Hispanices or other things that flavor it) or it always tastes bad. You can eat an entire steak by itself with no Hispanices, no onion, no garlic, no pepper, and it will always be tasty.
This post must have been made by a vegan. At the very least, a pescatarian.
It's just too expensive unless you go for cheap cuts, which will make you hate red meat after a time. Steak is a specialty meal, for splurging here and there.
I highly recommend bulking on red meat. It tastes better than chicken does and has more calories. I ate ground beef every single day on my last bulk and gained 20 pounds in only three months with relatively little fat increase (8% to 12%). I didn’t experience any health problems despite eating 0.6 lbs of red meat six days a week. I’m honestly never going back to chicken. It’s too low in calories in the protein content is higher than necessary. You can easily hit your protein for the day with basically any kind of meat as long as you’re drinking one or two whey protein shakes. The true challenges of bulking, or just eating enough calories and enjoying doing so. Red me absolutely demolishes chicken in both of those categories. I’m preparing my next book and I’ve got about 16 lbs of ground bison in my freezer ready to go.
TLDR: fuck chicken.
I've eaten large portions of meat for years, never had any such "intolerance" issues, it's bullshit.
And, my blood work comes back flawlessly every year. Veganfags can suck it.
For me, it's the Costco foodcourt all beef hotdog. $3.00 + tax for 48 g of protein and over 1000 calories. They're fucking delicious.
The Costco hotdog DOES have 24 grams of protein though. It also costs $1.50, believe it or not. Meaning that $3.00 + tax is the price for 48 grams of protein, as I said before.
They're losing money on it for sure. In fact, the hot dogs are physically larger than they were when Costco debuted them in (I think) the 80s. The founder of Costco still sits on the board / is the board president or something like that, and Costco execs were recently trying to raise the price. He famously said "If you raise the price of the hotdog, I will kill you. Figure it out."
1 month ago
Anonymous
>He famously said "If you raise the price of the hotdog, I will kill you. Figure it out."
That is incredible. Next time I'm at Costco I'm buying a hot dog.
Steak has too much fat per gram of protein to be your primary bulking choice. A steak here or there is fine but youd need to go with lean ground beef or something like pork tenderloin(is that red meat?).
I dont think you can really beat chicken breast. You should switch it up sometimes to get iron and whatever but its just too good as a protein staple
>there's only one kind of steak
moron, there are versions of steak that will have as low as 1g fat per 20g protein, and some that will have pretty much equal fat and protein.
If you buy eye of round or lean grass-fed beef tenderloin, there's almost no fat to be found. Eye of round is dirt cheap, tenderloin is not, but you have options on both ends of the cost spectrum.
Bulk on meat with some carbs and fats on the side, but little.
All other posts going against you are blackpilled losers. This is literally one of the best ways to leanbulk while maximalizing nutrients, nothing comes close to red meat. Add some liver/heart as well.
Just don't purely bulk on meat, some fats and some carbs will help. Just not much.
>bulk on meat with fats on the side
What? >one of the best ways to leanbulk while maximalizing nutrients
Foods with more nutrients are more satiating and harder to overeat. This is scientifically proven and also proven with common sense. That is the whole point of this discussion. I don't think you have ever actually tried to bulk on ground beef, liver and heart with "some carbs and fat on the side."
>Foods with more nutrients are more satiating and harder to overeat.
Vince Gironda diet, the diet all cutting bodybuilders used in the golden era.
The only difference you would make in a bulk is more carbs and maybe more fats depending on how lean the meat is. You need fats for optimal hormone production but not much.
But bulking on meat is very possible if you simply add a little bit more carbs and fat if you need it. Satiating aside, it depends on how much your willing to force yourself to eat, and how often you can eat. Bodybuilders regularly eat 500grams to 1kg of meat a day alongside rice and veggies.
I really don't care about mentally ill bodybuilders. I am pointing out that it is harder to overeat foods with more nutrients (a fact). By extension, it is harder to bulk on red meat than, say, nutrient-void chicken or pork. Rice is void of nutrients, and that's why it's easy to bulk with rice. Vegetables are a useless food group with hardly any calories or micronutrients.
Bro it is basically impossible to overeat chicken breast. Once you've gotten enough protein ìt literally stops tasting good whereas a steak always tastes good
You are bad at cooking. But I agree with your second point, steak is always so tasty.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm not bad at cooking why would you say something so cruel
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry anon, but chicken breast only stops tasting good if it's not covered in Hispanices, which is mandatory for chicken (unlike steak). And I personally believe someone who is good at cooking would know that.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I don't agree. Once I've had like 400-500g it just literally stops tasting good, the actual chicken itself. The seasoning can only make the outside taste good.
Thats completely untrue, I'm on strict carnivore and steak does stop tasting good when you're full. Its almost impossible to overeat on steak alone, lean or fat doesnt matter.
>meat intolerance
is a meme unless you are referring to protein poisoning/meat starvation which is only an issue if you ONLY eat lean meat with no fats.
you can't bulk on red meat. it's too filling.
What do you bulk on?
peanuts, eggs, anything with MSG
>can't eat a 16oz steak and some taters for a nice 1,500 kcal dinner
Carbs, the more refined the easier it is to shovel down.
How do you actually believe this?
by trying to eat 1000 kcal of meat vs 1000 kcal of whole milk
I think the poster you're responding to (and others confused by your claim) don't realize you mean, specifically, "you can't bulk on red meat." I think they're thinking you mean "you can't eat red meat while you bulk."
Obviously, you can eat steak with buttered potatoes and drink glasses of whole milk with that meal, but that's not "bulking on red meat," which, as you correctly say, won't work because red meat is too filling to bulk on. Anyone who disagrees is free to try to eat 1.5 pounds of ground beef in one sitting.
I ate 3 double burgers and 2 fish filets a side of Cole slaw and some spaghetti your just weak white boy
>bulking on red meat = eating burgers and fried fish and spaghetti and cole slaw
Thanks for confirming you are retarded.
>1.5 pounds
>3 doubles 3*2=6 burgers burgers typically weigh 4-6 ounces 4*6=24 ounces is a pound and a half
>have a nice day dumb gay
Damn you got outmathed by a shit skin you really should have a nice day
Imagine missing the point this hard. If you can't comprehend what my point was by this point, I don't think you will ever comprehend it. Imagine thinking that eating fried foods and burgers covered in goyslop sauce is "bulking on red meat" lmao.
>typical low quality fast-food burger is 6 ounces
I don't even know what to say to this ridiculous claim.
I could literally eat 1 lb of ground beef like it's nothing. That's 1500 calories.
I don't think you like meat very much because I can surely eat a 500 gram steak more easily than I can drink 1,5 litres of whole milk. And I fucking love milk.
>How do you actually believe this?
Experience.
that is a lie.
found the leftie/vegan aka pathological liar.
>too filling
whenever i eat meat or salmon I'm immediately MORE hungry an hour or two later
not until eat grains do i feel full
Backwards logic schizo post.
Are you black/west african?
Utter bullshit. I gained 20+ lbs of mostly muscle in a year eating mostly beef and fruit.
I wish
sometimes when I read posts like this or from carnivores/keto/fasters I dont understand how people struggle to gain weight, if I wont constrain myself I can eat like somebody who weigh 20kg+ more than me if I am not restraining myself and I am not even super fat or have alot of muscle (skinnyfat), gaining weight is literally easy if you arent a mega pussy
Post (every food in) a day of eating where the situation you're describing happens.
>Eating huge portions of meat such as steak or ribs can cause meat intolerance.
This is not actually a real thing, in case you thought it was. This has never been documented anywhere in the world for any animal, including humans.
He probably means you'll shit yourself if you overeat meat, which is quite likely.
No, it's not. How could meat possibly cause diarrhea? You're retarded.
Cant tell if you're trolling but beef intolerance is a thing. Google has the answer why. I had too lookup why I was getting diarrhea every time I ate steak. I've tried to cook it right through instead of medium rare and it still does it
0.01% of the population having an allergy to red meat is not the same as "you will shit yourself if you overeat meat."
If you seriously need me to explain this, I can't help you, only God can.
>Google has the answer why
NGMI
I get massive diarrhea after going to Fogo de Chao. All that beef fat runs straight through you if you don't eat it regularly.
And I bet you're eating much more than "just beef." How many French fries or other fried food or mashed potatoes or seed oil-covered rice did you eat with your meal?
>eat 800 calories of meat and 2000 calories of other shit
>get diarrhea
>must be the meat!
God, you're so stupid.
Anon, meat can be fatty and greasy which increases bile. Is it really that far-fetched?
You have literally no idea what you're talking about and sound like a complete retard when you declare that the moderate amount of red meat you ate (a minority of your calories) with your seed oil-covered sides is what caused your diarrhea, you fat gay.
>increases bile
you increase my bile
>meat intolerance
Only certain tick bites and “vaccines” cause this try again.
It’s very expensive and probably kind of boring. I find bulking is easier when I change up the food I’m eating otherwise I start to hate life. 6 eggs every day the same way with chicken rice and broccoli for lunch and chicken rice and some vegetable for dinner got boring really quickly, and I’m a pretty good cook. Now I mix up my meats and carb sources, and make a variety of different recipes and it makes bulking way more bearable.
Not really, it'll fuck up your shitter if you have it every night. And lean red meat isn't tasty like lean chicken.
>Not really, it'll fuck up your shitter if you have it every night
Schizo claim, not true.
>And lean red meat isn't tasty like lean chicken
What does this even mean? You have to season chicken (i.e. cook it with Hispanices or other things that flavor it) or it always tastes bad. You can eat an entire steak by itself with no Hispanices, no onion, no garlic, no pepper, and it will always be tasty.
This post must have been made by a vegan. At the very least, a pescatarian.
It's just too expensive unless you go for cheap cuts, which will make you hate red meat after a time. Steak is a specialty meal, for splurging here and there.
No. That's what the greats of the golden and silver ears used to bulk on. Steak+eggs.
red meat is known to cause very little discomfort from overeating, but its also a difficult food to force feed yourself with.
Yes, it's not good for the heart and kidneys. Meat protein should be kept at minimum necessary to avoid iron deficiency and no more
>it's not good for the heart and kidneys.
Schizo claim.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23597877/
YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDS
TELL ME WHAT IS THE FOOD RICHEST IN CARNITINE
WHAT IS IT
TELL ME YOU FUCKING RETARD
I'm pretty sure bulking means you're going to eat more of your usual food. It's not that you're supposed to stuff yourself with one type of food.
show me you eating 3200 calories of only meat every day you fucking dumbnuts
Give me infinite money and I could make that happen so easily bro.
I highly recommend bulking on red meat. It tastes better than chicken does and has more calories. I ate ground beef every single day on my last bulk and gained 20 pounds in only three months with relatively little fat increase (8% to 12%). I didn’t experience any health problems despite eating 0.6 lbs of red meat six days a week. I’m honestly never going back to chicken. It’s too low in calories in the protein content is higher than necessary. You can easily hit your protein for the day with basically any kind of meat as long as you’re drinking one or two whey protein shakes. The true challenges of bulking, or just eating enough calories and enjoying doing so. Red me absolutely demolishes chicken in both of those categories. I’m preparing my next book and I’ve got about 16 lbs of ground bison in my freezer ready to go.
TLDR: fuck chicken.
People have a problem eating enough to gain weight? are you serious?
Ikr, only twinks and dyels have a hard time bulking on red meat.
like shit dude just eat your protein up then fill the rest with bread
>meat intolerance
holy shit what
I've eaten large portions of meat for years, never had any such "intolerance" issues, it's bullshit.
And, my blood work comes back flawlessly every year. Veganfags can suck it.
For me, it's the Costco foodcourt all beef hotdog. $3.00 + tax for 48 g of protein and over 1000 calories. They're fucking delicious.
So like 2 to 3 of these a day and I'm set?
No, because that anon has no idea wtf he's talking about. The Costco hot dog does not have 48 grams of protein. It probably has around 20 grams.
The Costco hotdog DOES have 24 grams of protein though. It also costs $1.50, believe it or not. Meaning that $3.00 + tax is the price for 48 grams of protein, as I said before.
Oh that makes sense. I didn't think one was still $1.50, that's crazy.
They're losing money on it for sure. In fact, the hot dogs are physically larger than they were when Costco debuted them in (I think) the 80s. The founder of Costco still sits on the board / is the board president or something like that, and Costco execs were recently trying to raise the price. He famously said "If you raise the price of the hotdog, I will kill you. Figure it out."
>He famously said "If you raise the price of the hotdog, I will kill you. Figure it out."
That is incredible. Next time I'm at Costco I'm buying a hot dog.
Damn do they have anything similar in Tesco? I've only seen some 16g bullshit
Why does red meat make the resistance piss and shit their collective wound in anger?
eating meat and animal foods means you arent eating their profitable fake foods that will make you sick
Steak has too much fat per gram of protein to be your primary bulking choice. A steak here or there is fine but youd need to go with lean ground beef or something like pork tenderloin(is that red meat?).
I dont think you can really beat chicken breast. You should switch it up sometimes to get iron and whatever but its just too good as a protein staple
>there's only one kind of steak
moron, there are versions of steak that will have as low as 1g fat per 20g protein, and some that will have pretty much equal fat and protein.
If you buy eye of round or lean grass-fed beef tenderloin, there's almost no fat to be found. Eye of round is dirt cheap, tenderloin is not, but you have options on both ends of the cost spectrum.
I guess I'm retarded then, disregard me
god i love steak
I eat a pound of bottom round steak almost every day. I'll switch up the carbs, sometimes it'll be rice, pasta, or even nachos. It's so FUCKING good.
Meat intolerance
That's some gay shit
OP
Bulk on meat with some carbs and fats on the side, but little.
All other posts going against you are blackpilled losers. This is literally one of the best ways to leanbulk while maximalizing nutrients, nothing comes close to red meat. Add some liver/heart as well.
Just don't purely bulk on meat, some fats and some carbs will help. Just not much.
>bulk on meat with fats on the side
What?
>one of the best ways to leanbulk while maximalizing nutrients
Foods with more nutrients are more satiating and harder to overeat. This is scientifically proven and also proven with common sense. That is the whole point of this discussion. I don't think you have ever actually tried to bulk on ground beef, liver and heart with "some carbs and fat on the side."
>Foods with more nutrients are more satiating and harder to overeat.
Vince Gironda diet, the diet all cutting bodybuilders used in the golden era.
The only difference you would make in a bulk is more carbs and maybe more fats depending on how lean the meat is. You need fats for optimal hormone production but not much.
But bulking on meat is very possible if you simply add a little bit more carbs and fat if you need it. Satiating aside, it depends on how much your willing to force yourself to eat, and how often you can eat. Bodybuilders regularly eat 500grams to 1kg of meat a day alongside rice and veggies.
I really don't care about mentally ill bodybuilders. I am pointing out that it is harder to overeat foods with more nutrients (a fact). By extension, it is harder to bulk on red meat than, say, nutrient-void chicken or pork. Rice is void of nutrients, and that's why it's easy to bulk with rice. Vegetables are a useless food group with hardly any calories or micronutrients.
Bro it is basically impossible to overeat chicken breast. Once you've gotten enough protein ìt literally stops tasting good whereas a steak always tastes good
I could put away 2 lbs steak easy. Bulking on steak is so easy it's unreal.
The bone doesn't count.
You are bad at cooking. But I agree with your second point, steak is always so tasty.
I'm not bad at cooking why would you say something so cruel
I'm sorry anon, but chicken breast only stops tasting good if it's not covered in Hispanices, which is mandatory for chicken (unlike steak). And I personally believe someone who is good at cooking would know that.
I don't agree. Once I've had like 400-500g it just literally stops tasting good, the actual chicken itself. The seasoning can only make the outside taste good.
Thats completely untrue, I'm on strict carnivore and steak does stop tasting good when you're full. Its almost impossible to overeat on steak alone, lean or fat doesnt matter.
>meat intolerance
is a meme unless you are referring to protein poisoning/meat starvation which is only an issue if you ONLY eat lean meat with no fats.
Red meat is to accompany your bulk food.
Potatoes, rice, beans, yuca, noodles or macaroni
Only for blood type O
Dammit I need a steak now.
Add some potatoes.
God these steaks look so tasty, I'm salivating excessively