Is he credible or a meme spouting boomer?

Is he credible or a meme spouting boomer?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is he credible

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So that’s a yes?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        duh

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's impressive, but soviets in the 110kg class were pressing 210kg with a far less pronounced back arch.

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          This is just astonishing. The 'jerk' component of this press just doesn't make any sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            but they where not natty like chase is

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Olympic lifting
            Mostly pushpress. You can press more weight without the lean that way since the quads are used to generate momentum.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              At a certain point, it's either Olympic press or push press. Or go for more reps with a strict press, but you can't increase the weight.
              And Olympic will frick your low back, no matter what Rip says that it shouldn't, the old lifters back when it was a competition lift often had back pain, the risk is there.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just do the fricking program. It takes 4 months, 5 at most, then you'll have a solid strength foundation to do whatever brosplit moronation you want. Think about it- what gets you a bigger chest?
    >benching 2plates for 3 sets of 10
    >benching 1 plate for 3 sets of 10
    Obviously the former. What's the best way to get to 2 plates for reps? Get strong. Then once you're strong, do hypertrophy crap. It is 1,000,000x faster to get to 2plates for reps by strength lifting rather than trying to progressively overload high rep light weight shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strength foundation
      Meme. Build a muscle foundation and then peak strength instead.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can but it's slower. If you want to be efficient, do strength first, then hypertrophy. Either way will work. The law of beginner gains says it has to. But if you want to hit 3 plates (for reps), then you have no choice but to focus on strength with hypertrophy being used to accomodate strength development

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is there any evidence that spending 4 months on strength then spending say 4 months doing a hypertrophy program will get more gains than just spending 8 months on a hypertrophy program? it seems like it's just a baseless assertion powersharters make.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's zero evidence for it because it's simply not true. If you want to build muscle just do a hypertrophy program from the outset. SS is a meme

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe you should post your physique and lifts?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No. Powershitters are just morons obsessed with dragging everyone into their pit of coping fat guys alongside them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The evidence is that "strength" and "hypertrophy" are the same thing, and anyone who says otherwise usually has neither.
            It is a fantasy that you can have big muscles while being weak.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The evidence is that "strength" and "hypertrophy" are the same thing
              no

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, actually
                Just because you can find some guy who lifts a lot and looks shitty doesn't change the fact that YOU are going to be small as long as you refuse to lift hard.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://themusclephd.com/does-size-strength/

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's the best way to get to 2 plates for reps?
      Probably not SS. He's so adamant about increasing the load on the bar. You can't add reps or sets or calculate the intensity and turn that up for a couple sets. You can't take more rest days and see if you just weren't recovered enough. No, just keep going until you're walking into a wall and then back up a few paces and march back in and bang your head into it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >keep going until you're walking into a wall and then back up a few paces and march back in and bang your head into it
        the thing that every moron misses about this program is that you need to be disciplined enough to pick a reasonable starting weight and make the small consistent progress, and confident enough to move on to a different program once you've hit the wall and stalled out once or twice.

        Just do the fricking program. It takes 4 months, 5 at most, then you'll have a solid strength foundation to do whatever brosplit moronation you want. Think about it- what gets you a bigger chest?
        >benching 2plates for 3 sets of 10
        >benching 1 plate for 3 sets of 10
        Obviously the former. What's the best way to get to 2 plates for reps? Get strong. Then once you're strong, do hypertrophy crap. It is 1,000,000x faster to get to 2plates for reps by strength lifting rather than trying to progressively overload high rep light weight shit.

        gets its - you run the program for half a year, then you move on

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you type like Ripptoe?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Parasocial emulation due to lack of father figure and no real sense of self identity.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's good for 16 year old skelies to put on useful weight to play highschool football. It turns to shit when morons on here conflate it with an aesthetics-first bodybuilding program.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think anyone conflates it with a bodybuilding program. It's made clear by everyone involved that it's a strength program. But saying it doesn't give you size is moronation - it gives a solid foundation that you can later use to do whatever brosplit bullshit redditors are on about these days.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you follow ss+gomad you will look like an overweight t-rex

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in 4 months? ok roidtroony

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >look
      Why is everything about look with you homos?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He is knowledgeable about how to make a weak person above-average strong, because that is what he has done his whole life.

    He is absolutely moronic when it comes to shit like politics, global warming, longevity-focused health, etc. Anything that deviates from what he knows, like trap bars, are dismissed by him unnecessarily.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is his stance on trans individuals?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If they're of legal age and under 200lbs
        >Adults but but adult males
        Then they must be equivalent to adult females and good to frick.
        That's very open minded of him, I had never considered that angle.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish people would just get their squat to the upper-mid 200s in a couple months instead of playing around on the cable machine for 3 years making zero gains. Just get to the point where you'd have to GOMAD to make more progress and just stop there and bodybuild.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SS is still really good if you're a typical sedentary underweight nerd, and decide to actually follow a program and bulk for the first time, but he seems to have an ego and cultish mindset when it comes to other things, i think he used to say that you can't improve your vertical and so on, that squat/bench/row numbers are the only real translatable exercises to sports and so on, he thinks you can't train explosiveness and shit like that. hes afraid to delve outside of his realm while knowing people aren't necessarily coming to him for bloatlord strength, so he just tells an already overweight guy to gain 50lbs to put 10kg on his squat when the guy's real question is about some sport improvements.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He basically created the memes you fricking moron

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he looks like the average trucker, what do you think.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He'll have you go from squatting 65lbs and weighing 165 to squatting 300lbs and weighing 265 in 3 years.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >in 3 years
      Nobody but morons run the program for longer than 9 months, let alone 3 years.

      >What's the best way to get to 2 plates for reps?
      Probably not SS. He's so adamant about increasing the load on the bar. You can't add reps or sets or calculate the intensity and turn that up for a couple sets. You can't take more rest days and see if you just weren't recovered enough. No, just keep going until you're walking into a wall and then back up a few paces and march back in and bang your head into it.

      SS got me to 2plates for a 1RM by my third month.
      >He's so adamant about increasing the load on the bar.
      How else do you get stronger?
      >You can't add reps or sets or calculate the intensity
      The intensity is always increasing. There's no need to calculate anything. If one week you can do 3 sets of 5 on a 200lb squat, and another you can do 3 sets of 5 on a 250lb squat, then by definition you have gotten stronger.
      >You can't take more rest days and see if you just weren't recovered enough.
      Read Pratical Programming for Strength Training. The answers are in there. tl;dr - you literally can.
      >keep going until
      Some programs are meant to be run out. Ofc, you can program however you want. SS isn't meant to be a permanent solution, it's STARTING strength. You start getting strong, move onto something else fairly quickly.

      is there any evidence that spending 4 months on strength then spending say 4 months doing a hypertrophy program will get more gains than just spending 8 months on a hypertrophy program? it seems like it's just a baseless assertion powersharters make.

      I'm not a powerlifter, and my evidence is the fact that you're asking this question. Few people lift for strength, they mindlessly do 3 sets of 10 with b***h weights then wonder why they're not progressing. Strength is such a simple, fast adaptation. Having been trained at a SS-gym, it's so common to see people break through the 2plate bench barrier so fast it's not even funny. People on IST act like 2 plate bench, 3 plate squat, 4 plate deadlifts are something you need years of training or steroids for. That's because of the fixation on "hypertrophy". In the beginning, there's no difference between gains made via strength or hypertrophy training. But there is a difference in speed.

      Why do you type like Ripptoe?

      Bc I'm a product of his training. Went to an SS-gym and had a SS coach. Occasionally we make fun of ISTtards who don't lift.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bc I'm a product of his training. Went to an SS-gym and had a SS coach
        post body

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wagmi

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Noob here, did you really get that chest from SS? I'm not trolling, I want to aim for the Greek statue Sandow aesthetic where the chest isn't really huge, and it seems like SS would give you the opposite of that

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Noob here, did you really get that chest from SS?
              I got it from the Texas Method.
              >it seems like SS would give you the opposite of that
              My chest is tiny af compared to people who train it. The one flaw with SS/TM that people are right about are that it underdevelops the chest. My legs look wayyy bigger than my upper body. I only recently started doing isolations and dips to start growing my chest.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Few people lift for strength, they mindlessly do 3 sets of 10 with b***h weights then wonder why they're not progressing
        people not getting (close) to failure isn't a fault with hypertrophy training. actually, getting close to failure is MORE important for hypertrophy than for strength. sets of 10 would work just as well as sets of 5 for starting/gaining strength. and the longer you run it, the better it works due to the extra size gain which contributes to strength.
        >Having been trained at a SS-gym, it's so common to see people break through the 2plate bench barrier so fast it's not even funny.
        selection bias and selective memory. big college football athletes often start at 2pl8, while scrawny zoomers at commercial gyms or nerds at IT university gym may never reach 2pl8 no matter their training.
        >People on IST act like 2 plate bench, 3 plate squat, 4 plate deadlifts are something you need years of training or steroids for.
        yeah, depending on your genetics that is either unreachable, moderately hard, or pretty easy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post body.
          >sets of 10 would work just as well as sets of 5 for starting/gaining strength. and the longer you run it, the better it works due to the extra size gain which contributes to strength.
          Training for strength DOES result in size gains. Why is this so difficult for ISTizens to believe? Let's just agree to disagree. I never said sets of 10 are bad, just that they're not ideal for beginners. SS is something that will only last for a small fraction of someone's entire lifting career.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Training for strength DOES result in size gains.
            never said it didn't. I just said that sets of 10 result in EXTRA size gain.
            >I never said sets of 10 are bad, just that they're not ideal for beginners.
            you didn't just say that they're not ideal. you said that "there is a difference in speed", which I was disputing.
            also why didn't you address any of my other points?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >also why didn't you address any of my other points?
    Because you didn't post body.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not gonna dox myself. And posting body without timestamp (like you did) is worthless since it could be anyone.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm not gonna dox myself
        Okay dyel.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          post time-stamped body, or gtfo.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >post time-stamped body, or gtfo.
            had my qt gf hold this up for me. Starting strength works you fricking dyel.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >starting strength + 500mg test/ week works

              ftfy

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Based sets of faahve enjoyer.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sets of 5 work. Always have.

                >has abs, biceps and delts
                >fails on the bulk
                >claims he did ss
                You literally failed SS

                Post body.

                >Claims he did starting strength
                >Not fat

                Did you even read the book? You're leaving gains on the table.

                Post body.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >has abs, biceps and delts
              >fails on the bulk
              >claims he did ss
              You literally failed SS

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Claims he did starting strength
              >Not fat

              Did you even read the book? You're leaving gains on the table.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Found the dyel

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still think 5's don't work? Don't worry anon, you'll get your squat to 300lbs easily once you start programming for strength. Like I said, we're all gonna fricking make it. Even if I have to drag you to the top with me

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Never said sets of 5 don't work. I said that sets of 10 work just as well (and a bit better long term due to more size gains).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post body.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bro will never post body

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His program is good to teach the basics of the basics for complete dummies on weight lifting on how to workout.

    There is better resources out there

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's the pipeline:
      >Be a lifter who lifts for 10 years/120 months.
      >Do Starting strength for first 4-9 of those months
      >SS literally comprises no more than 7.5% of your total lifts EVER.
      >Go be a fricking tool and post about it on IST
      >profit

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't know anything about lifting, if you don't have a coach, if you are wanting progress in any way, if you want to know classic barbell lifts and if you want to do a minimalist type strength workout, SS is great. You can do whatever you want obviously but his program is about as basic and easy to understand as it gets. Your body will adapt and you will get stronger if you do the weight, do the recovery (including eating right), and keep adding weight each workout. Eventually you will get tired of it, or you'll progress to the point where you need more convoluted shit to keep you interested in lifting but the guy isn't wrong. Most people just aren't patient enough to do it.

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