Is it possible to train your neck enough to survive death by hanging? Posted on May 2, 2023 by Anonymous Is it possible to train your neck enough to survive death by hanging?
No, even if it doesn't break on the fall you'll suffocate eventually
But what if it's thick enough to prevent closing the airways?
I don't think it'd work, pic related would still hang for example
He has a big neck but that doesn't mean strong.
Ideally a big + strong neck (eg. capable of neck curling absurd amounts, like 225+ neck curls) that's also big could theoretically be strong enough to both not break and not even be crushed enough by the rope to cut off breathing, no?
Sounds interesting, it might be possible but I don't know of a way to test it
I just think that the design of the neck makes it more about the compression strength of certain tissues in the throat than it does muscle strength etc. That rope is going to run right there by the more or less exposed tissues that contain the airway, and that bottom portion of the rope loop which bears all the weight is going to necessarily be pressing on that section and I just don't think there is a way to strengthen those particular tissues and I think the range of variation in the strength of those tissues is pretty small compared to muscle strength.
And that is assuming you withstand the initial drop (something we know happened from time to time most likely due to error and a person having stronger neck muscles).
>Ideally a big + strong neck (eg. capable of neck curling absurd amounts, like 225+ neck curls)
Necks aren't designed to be strong and bear weight.
That's not how that works. suffocation is by putting pressure on arteries or airway. You cannot muscle those.
Anyone that does BJJ can tell you that a 100lbs woman can be chocked just like a 300lbs man. We all have the same arteries.
You don't normally die from asphyxiation when you're hung. Normally it's a severed spinal chord which is like an internal decapitation.
>when you’re hung
so jelqing is the only way to survive?
It would still cut off blood flow to the brain
Yes, but you'll choke in 30 minutes instead of having your neck snap.
Not a good idea.
Realistically, how long would you have to hang seemingly unaffected before they decide to take you down and figure something else out?
I'd assume if you could nosell it for even 4 minutes they'd give up.
If you're not purple in the face and lips they know you're not dead.
They wait a bit longer anyway because there is always a gap between unconsciousness and death.
No, eventually your muscles get tired no matter what. Even hypothetically if he could flex to prevent the noose from tightening enough to close his airway. He's fighting his own weight with only his neck muscles.
If you added a time limit of say 5 minutes, its a maybe but still highly unlikely.
i dont know if its possible but i used to know a guy that attempted to get a bigger neck by doing weighted neck curls. he was in the army and wanted a bigger neck because he couldnt pass weight. a bigger neck allows you more weight according to the tape test.
Can't remember the name but wasn't there a guy who hanged himself as a feat of strength?
Maybe. But most likely not. I'm not a biologist but it seems the biomechanics don't add up.
First, a noose knot is tied in a way that pulling on it will tighten the noose, but it's difficult to loosen it (you have to awkwardly push the limp rope through the knot); ropes are better suited to pulling mechanics rather than pushing.
There are three ways a hanging can kill someone. Breaking the neck on the initial drop, asphyxiation by blocking airways, or braindeath through lack of blood flow (ultimately both are lack of oxygen in the brain, but the causation is different).
So even if hypothetically the muscles were strong and hard enough to keep your neck intact and survive the drop, the noose wouldn't ever loosen during the hanging and it would be a game of endurance. Assuming you kept your neck flexed to stop the snap, you're now stuck maintaining the flex, which obviously cannot continue for very long. Let's for a minute assume you can keep it up indefinitely.
The other ways you might die are by asphyxiation or prevention of blood flow. Because there are no muscles directly above your larynx(?), having strong neck muscles probably wouldn't stop the asphyxiation. Let's assume though that they're massive enough to somehow allow a gap between your airways and the rope. Blood flow: this is where you can't win. Even if your muscles are somehow strong and hard enough to stop the initial snap, this will actually work against you in terms of blood flow. While there might be a lot of muscle between your carotid arteries and the rope, the tightness of the rope is solely based on the force of the initial drop, and having strong neck muscles wouldn't reduce the tightness of the noose, but depending on how hard and massive they are, increase the circumference that the force is applied. Meaning it would actually feel tighter with a large neck than a small neck (assuming the body weight and drop height are congruent). Either way the pressure on the inside of your neck, p1
p2 would be hypothetically unchanged, regardless of how thick your neck is. The difference would be the buffer zone, but effectively this just means instead of the rope blocking your carotids, it will be your own flesh and muscle. Assuming soft muscle that's easily displaced, the rope comes into play, the force applied of course unchanged (as it is based on bodyweight and drop height), and the noose would tighten accordingly as flesh displaces. Assuming your muscle is very hard, it would be forced against your arteries with the same amount of pressure, simply acting as a surrogate rope.
In short: maybe in some special cases one can survive longer than average, but eventually you'd die.
I think the bigger advantage would be to be a nugget, no lower body or arms. This would greatly reduce bodyweight and thus noose pressure. I could see a nugget surviving indefinitely...
It's practically impossible unless you're a Hanma.
Are you set to be executed soon, anon? This training may take some time.