It's telling that every anon on here is totally running around with 20 inch arms or some shit then claim natty but then the people actually winning bodybuilding contests aren't running around with 20 inch arms. Those natty shows don't even have good drug testing you just submit a piss test the week of and it usually only checks for diuretics.
kek you ARE talking about my obese ass you stupid moron that's the point. all the people running around claiming natty with 20" pipes could easily be telling the truth. just not the whole truth.
god this board is so fricking dumb. i'm going back to IST, don't follow me.
Natural bodybuilders look objectively worse to me when they're extremely lean in contest-shape compared to when they're in off-season mode. Cutting to those low body fat percentages without drug assistance just makes them look flat and depleted. Whereas when they're around 10-18% body fat, most of them look good.
I will post an example of a natural bodybuilder with average/below average genetics as far as his structure goes. When he's ~15% BF, he looks a lot healthier and bigger.
looks like another victim of Starting Strength
of course not.
Natural bodybuilding for competing? Frick no. Natural bodybuilding as a recreational hobby? Frick yeah
It's telling that every anon on here is totally running around with 20 inch arms or some shit then claim natty but then the people actually winning bodybuilding contests aren't running around with 20 inch arms. Those natty shows don't even have good drug testing you just submit a piss test the week of and it usually only checks for diuretics.
natty bodybuilders are lean as frick tard. i had 19" arms after 2 years of training and all it took was ~30% bodyfat lol.
Nobody is talking about your obese ass go back to your keto thread.
kek you ARE talking about my obese ass you stupid moron that's the point. all the people running around claiming natty with 20" pipes could easily be telling the truth. just not the whole truth.
god this board is so fricking dumb. i'm going back to IST, don't follow me.
You’re really low IQ
What he’s saying is all the guys on here claiming 20 inch arms are fat
i have 17.5inchers at 14% bf as a novice
only just hit 1/2/3/4 recently.
>nobody asked
idc lol enjoy this tidbit
>2 plate bench with 17.5 inch arms
Do you have no pecs
No he is probably just tall and/or misunderstanding his bodyfat
for competition, no; but if you mean building a better body, yeah. there are plenty of good looking naturals on cbts
Natural bodybuilders look objectively worse to me when they're extremely lean in contest-shape compared to when they're in off-season mode. Cutting to those low body fat percentages without drug assistance just makes them look flat and depleted. Whereas when they're around 10-18% body fat, most of them look good.
I will post an example of a natural bodybuilder with average/below average genetics as far as his structure goes. When he's ~15% BF, he looks a lot healthier and bigger.
Arms and calves look a lot better on the left
All that hard work just to turn yourself into a Indian
Dont bother going sub 12% BF natty. Stay within 12-20% so you can actually get strong
Tl;dr: "no"
No, it's far less healthy than running a small test cycle instead of crushing your hormones for such a long time.
Why do they have to be this fricking lean?
So you can see their insertions and striations.
They could do this at 10-12% bf
You aren't getting fully visible separation between every single muscle group at 10-12%
>You aren't getting fully visible separation between every single muscle group at 10-12%
not him but you aren't vidrel is 10-12 and he isn't striated
competing? no. As a hobby? yes. Remember that John Grimek(picrel) was seen as a man with the best physique and he barely had abs.