Is Self-hate the greatest motivator?

Is Self-hate the greatest motivator?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and no
    I hate myself so much that I don't see the point in trying

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maybe you don't hate yoself enough, if you did you wouldn't tolerate him

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      excuses, you don't hate yourself enough to punish yourself with physical exercise and the pain that comes from that
      cope and rope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hate yourself even more

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Left: big moron who will spot your Bench before hitting an impressive PR and then having a barbecue and some beers
    >Schizo who has to run 15 miles to make the voices stop and has an episode every time he misses his pre-made brocolli and chicken

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Schizo who has to run 15 miles to make the voices stop and has an episode every time he misses his pre-made brocolli and chicken
      Based that's exactly why I love Goggins

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >based

        [...]

        is that way, incel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          don't be jealous, some bros are cool enough to use both boards

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/UysKNut.jpg

        Is Self-hate the greatest motivator?

        Damn I guys are making this rigger sound pretty based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's a cope not an aspiration anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Schizo who has to run 15 miles to make the voices stop and has an episode every time he misses his pre-made brocolli and chicken
      He’s LITERALLY me, except mine is rooted in autism

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bro don't use the hard r it's racist and disrespectful

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Where the fuck do you think you are moron?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          only a fool loses hi temper so quickly, be humble or i shall humble you myself

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Humble me, biatch moron

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who is going to lift the boats though?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you can balance it, yes, but it's a slippery slope
    I hate myself so much I genuinely believe I can never be loved, so some days I wonder why I even bother trying

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      try because you want to hate yourself less

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love you, you fucking bastard

        Love yourself, bro. I love you, bro. Don't believe everything you think about yourself. We are our harshests critics. Try to be your best friend instead.

        Thanks, frens

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I love you, you fucking bastard

        Love yourself, bro. I love you, bro. Don't believe everything you think about yourself. We are our harshests critics. Try to be your best friend instead.

        Fuck you assholes I posted literally the same comment before him and got nothing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I joined this thread just to say I appreciate your positive efforts, sometimes it wont be noticed but its all about the energy you give out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I love you, you fucking bastard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Love yourself, bro. I love you, bro. Don't believe everything you think about yourself. We are our harshests critics. Try to be your best friend instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One day it will click. After the countless hours spent working on this thing that seems so pointless, something will happen that will dramatically shift your perspective on yourself. You will need to see more improvements, more personal records, more pain and work in each sesh. Please anon just do this and believe that it will work, it will change your life completely I promise you. I love you and hope you can find that inner savage that’s been waiting to be released, god bless you and good luck on this journey.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >trust the process
        words and ideas are expensive in this era you don't have to waste time ranting like that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      self-hatred is thinly veiled narcissism, you treat others the way you treat yourself, so whenever i see somebody who talks about how much they hate themselves i know that person is a complete narcissist who will project their self-hatred onto you at the first opportunity

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The energy you put out is the energy you get , you should believe that you can be loved and you are a person of value and you'll have love , the hatred part is when I say to myself "don't be a bitch made you bastard" and then I push myself beyond my limits so it's a mix.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If we can hate anons for no reason, we can love them for no reason too

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I got nothing but respect for a man that transforms himself like this.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >fat ass fuck because of severe depression and meds
    >walk past some bitches
    >hear them talk about me
    >"damn, have you seen this belly? it's so big"
    >be ashamed of myself
    >can't look into the mirror
    >i snap
    >this time i decided to use all that negative energy for something constructive
    >starting to work out
    >lost 35kg
    >got fit
    >can run 40 mins without break
    >couldn't walk steps without getting out of breath
    >feel awesome
    >finally start to love myself

    Yes. You need to reach a point where you hate yourself so much that you don't wanna live anymore, then transform that hate into pure motivation to be a better man for yourself because you owe it to yourself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, for me it was fear of only slipping deeper into the hell I created for myself instead of maybe inching my way out of it. The process was almost like a crucifixion for my sins, rewarding me with rebirth after the journey was complete

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Are you religious?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am after losing weight

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I’m proud of you anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        First time someone else said that. I am proud of myself too...
        No one in my family ever told me they are proud of my transformation. I am in the process of cutting them off since i realized they are the source of the negativity in my life. It's painful but necessary.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I went through the same process. Don’t think anyone has congratulated me IRL

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It sucks. But a lot of people are miserable. And thus they are jealous and passive-aggressive. Can't have such people in your life, even if it's your family. I will never let myself get dragged down again into misery, depression, learned helpnessness, victim complex etc.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hate is Love just named different

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      18+ to post here

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >read goggins' book
    >start running until i feel like im dying every morning
    >unironically stop being depressed
    >gain motivation to quit grocery store job, go back to school
    >straight A's in college, transfer to ivy league school
    >score an internship making 6 figures, job offer signed for when i graduate next year
    >keep running every morning, never break my routine
    >religiously stretch before bed and upon waking up
    >feel more loose, limber than ever before. as flexible as when i was a 12 y/o kid
    >no more tightness in my body, especially my neck which had spasm's for years
    >body looks great
    >feels great
    >never run out of energy during sex

    fuck the haters

    fuck all of you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If this isn't a larp then good for you. But you owe Goggins and you better defend that motherfucker whenever anyone shits on him. Whenever you hear anyone talk about him like a freak remember where you were before you picked up that book, and imagine where you'd be without it today.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Goggins didn't do anything, anon did it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That is a larp friend lmao it’s always posted on the Goggins thread

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I knew it deep down that it was a larp, but I wanted it to be true for my fellow ISTbros.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        meh, not gonna bend over backwards trying to defend the guy against anonymous autists on IST. just gonna drop my experience and hope it motivates others the same way goggins did for me

        unironically, peterson videos helped too

        kinda sad that people shit on them incessantly, but everyone i've met irl who actually applies their knowledge ends up turning their life around. i seriously haven't been depressed for more than 2-3 days since adopting these principles. anxiety is now more than manageable, some days it's just completely gone.

        as

        Goggins didn't do anything, anon did it.

        mentioned, goggins was a great motivator of what you can do with the power of your mind.

        same shit as every other self-help book really, just gotta find the brand that speaks to you.

        That is a larp friend lmao it’s always posted on the Goggins thread

        I knew it deep down that it was a larp, but I wanted it to be true for my fellow ISTbros.

        why would i larp?

        if any of you fucks applied the dedication that goggins did to something, you'd be successful in it too.

        by all means, if you're happy and set up in life, keep doing you bro.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When I started getting IST I thought self hate was the motivator but I slowly realized I hated the old me that didn't treat his body with the respect it deserved. I hated my fat personality that betrayed his beloved meat wagon

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No
    But it will get you started

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >lost over 290lbs
    Yes, but only if you're strong enough to both handle that kind of burden, and can replace it with something else eventually. You can't hate yourself forever, you ultimately need to move on to acceptance, if not self-love. Though I still haven't quite got there.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think Goggins hated himself but he also hated his circumstances.
    Read his book, his job before the SEALs sounds horrible.
    Anybody would be motivated to change for the better when their job is that shitty

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly yeah, I was majorly depressed at 17, decided to make a change at 18 and bought some equipment right before the covid pandemic which was the best decision I've ever made since prices skyrocketed and I had literally nothing to do but lift. (With shit, form, programming, dieting ect but fuck it)

    Now I actually like looking into a mirror as well as being comfortable talking to women which was a bit of an issue before

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me mental illness was my greatest motivator
    I had a psychotic break and started seeing visions and hearing voices
    I got into the habit of going for /nightwalks/ for like 4 hours or more every day, just walking around aimlessly talking to myself
    That plus I had suppressed appetite and didn't eat much meant I reduced to like 4% bf the machinist mode very quickly

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    going on 14mi run today, all thanks to Goggins for runpilling me 4 years ago. oh, i'm also shredded as fuck b/c of running after building my base lifting for years

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember gays, always be taking souls.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    depends on the person. different people respond to different motivators. for me, self-hate has never worked well, it makes me more inclined to just give up and hate myself, stress eat, binge booze, etc. for some people it works very well, but not for me, at least past the first couple weeks.
    for me, the biggest motivators are seeing progress, even a small amount, and the feeling I get after lifting. Maybe if I were a fatty selfhate would be more effective, idk, but for me as a recovering skinny fat, positive progress has worked better than self hate

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ohhhh I'm roooning around outside all dayy oh god I'm rooooning
    Ahh that was a nice day of running around outside all day making no money and having no friends, time for sleep

    Ohh goood I'm rooooooning I'm rooning I'm running outside la la la la weeeeeee!
    Ah that was a nice day of running, stay hard

    Repeat ad infinitum

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >goes on run
    >vomits
    >passes SEAL training despite being 25% black
    damn..... what a inspiration.....

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's women. And has been since Helen of Troy.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. I have improved a ton, physically, since I started to hate myself. I’m currently looking into becoming a firefighter too since I don’t really care about my life at this point.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >firefighter because I want to die
      Why not choose an actually dangerous career like special forces or oil rig worker then?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Special forces seems pretty high effort. Does oil rig worker pay well and is it actually that dangerous?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Does oil rig worker pay well and is it actually that dangerous?
          Very yes, and yes

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    looking at it logically, you have 4 choices when dealing with negative aspects of your life

    >love
    you are not only accepting of your negative aspects, but see it as a positive thing. this is a backwards hell and leads to the clown world we live in with things like body positivity movements and promoting the worst lifestyles as progress
    >acceptance
    you are submitting to the fact that you have negative aspects, and accept them as just "who you are". this is where the average person ends up; they see their problems as too difficult to fix on their own and just accept it as the way it is
    >apathy
    pure nihilism. none of your problems matter, none of this matters. life is a joke, i'd rather die fat and happy, etc. can be a short term bandaid for things out of your control, but solves nothing.
    >hatred and disgust
    you despise the worst parts of yourself, know that they can be changed, and will be unhappy and unloving towards yourself until they are fixed. this does not mean you hate yourself, simply that you hate that things within your control have gotten out of control. you can take control back and hate that you have not done so yet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What if you take the apathy route but actually try

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        then what was the point?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just to try I guess

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The 4th choice is pretty bad if it's something that can't actually be changed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        right but I should've specified that I'm talking about things within your control that can be changed. If you're poor/jobless and apathetic, accepting or happy about it, you're likely to stay unemployed and broke. some level of discomfort is needed to change, and jumping to an outright despise of that shortcoming is a fast path to changing it sooner than later.

        If you're blind and hate yourself for not being able to see, yes you'll be miserable forever if you never come to acceptance or love for that shortcoming.

        Just to try I guess

        if you were truly apathetic and didn't attach positive or negative feelings towards your current state, then you're just as likely to say
        >hey why don't I just try getting really fat

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because "loving yourself" is what fat people say to cope with their second slice of cake

    I'd still be a fat slob of a man if I didn't get IST

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. Don't hate your weak self.
    Be at peace so you can focus on your desire to create your strong self.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Self-hate and hate.

    I hate myself and I hate humans. I wanna fuck them up, make them jealous af. They shall suffer.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only applies to men, women will get even fatter and blame society

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that's wrong incel
      t. female

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If based women exist, they're outliers. His statement still applies to women in general.

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