>is superior to barbell OHP

>is superior to barbell OHP

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not engaging your core is sus. Kys

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shoo shoo zoomer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >are... are you sitting down for your shoulder exercise?
      >but what about your core? It's a compound movement you're supposed to work your core!
      >*OHPs sub 1 plate* yeah I could lift more but I gotta make sure I involve my core in this shoulder exercise, I'm actually stronger than people doing seated DB presses with 100s because they have a shitty core, what they're doing doesn't actually count, it's just c-cope
      I want all gym zoomers to kill themselves both irl and in Minecraft

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like a butthurt fag no cap

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          cute strawman gay

          Found the sub 100lb OHPers.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cute strawman gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Worrying about core on a delt exercise

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what an unfortunate face.

    contrary to /shit/'s advice i have had better growth and made better progress doing THE PRESS seated in the smith machine. my shoulders are yuge now and i'm consistently putting the weight up. whereas every single dumbbell exercise i do is fucking pointless, just marking time.

    it's almost as if you need to lift big weights to get big.

    by all means do your shitty dumbbell meme lifts, but do them AFTER you do heavy work not instead of heavy work.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >my shoulders are yuge now
      delusional

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i also fraud so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          kys roidchud

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          when I was on gear my shoulders grew without training shoulders so your opinion means nothing

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/9jKmz7F.png

          >ehh not so much in my experience
          >i basically kept my natty program
          natty routine on gear is no problem, it's the other way around that's the issue. one exception is that high frequency can be a problem for roiders because muscle growth can outpace tendon growth and tendons need

          the fundamentals of exercise are exactly the same when you're frauding, you just get more out of it.

          don't believe me? based on what? of the two of us, i'm the only one who is in a position to know.

          so that paragraph you just typed is worth less than the gum I stepped on 🙂

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >¯_(ツ)_/¯
          missed the opportunity to do ¯@(ツ)@/¯

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i also fraud so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

      Aka you have no opinion of value. So that paragraph you just typed is worth less than the gum I stepped on.
      Idc if someone frauds. But it's not the fucking exercise variation that blows up your shoulders. It's the androgen receptors in your fucking shoulders responding to juice. Same with traps.
      Next time you think about making claims about which variations are good or bad, have a nice day instead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the fundamentals of exercise are exactly the same when you're frauding, you just get more out of it.

        don't believe me? based on what? of the two of us, i'm the only one who is in a position to know.

        so that paragraph you just typed is worth less than the gum I stepped on 🙂

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the fundamentals of exercise are exactly the same when you're frauding
          lift weights to get bigger, yes. but frequency, volume, exercise selection, response, recovery, tendon demands, etc, are all different.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          There have been studies where men on juice without exercise made gains.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            men not on juice without exercise make gains anon. it's called "growing up".

            >the fundamentals of exercise are exactly the same when you're frauding
            lift weights to get bigger, yes. but frequency, volume, exercise selection, response, recovery, tendon demands, etc, are all different.

            >frequency, volume, exercise selection, response, recovery, tendon demands, etc, are all different.
            ehh not so much in my experience. you can do more than you otherwise could but that doesn't necessarily change what you're doing, just how much of it you do. like i basically kept my natty program but just added in more exercises in the end. i've experimented but i always just come back to 3*10 with a top set and then 2 sets at a lower weight. if i want more work i just add more exercises.

            i probably could have just added more dropsets to the exercises i was already doing but i like the variety.

            muscles that are closer to the brain and spine have more androgenic receptors. That's the reason why all girls on roids have man's face with overly developed jaw muscles, despite not training them at all, just eating. Same with your shoulders. They will return back to normal, or even to a smaller size when you get off the juice.

            >when you get off the juice
            >when
            lol

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >ehh not so much in my experience
              >i basically kept my natty program
              natty routine on gear is no problem, it's the other way around that's the issue. one exception is that high frequency can be a problem for roiders because muscle growth can outpace tendon growth and tendons need

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm natty and I get tendon pain from training my arms frequently, even doing lat pulldowns 3x a week with any degree of intensity makes my forearm and bicep tendons hurt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lat pulldowns, rows, and pullups can stress the biceps tendon a lot because you can put it under significant load while it's maximally stretched. if you can prevent that (less range of motion, keeping a slight bend in your arms, etc), your pain should go away.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                could I just do pulldowns more infrequently as well?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                probably, yes. also switching exercise each session can help as well. e.g. dumbbell rows one day, lat pulldowns another, etc. treating your hands "as hooks" and pulling from the elbows (less biceps engagement) can also help.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          muscles that are closer to the brain and spine have more androgenic receptors. That's the reason why all girls on roids have man's face with overly developed jaw muscles, despite not training them at all, just eating. Same with your shoulders. They will return back to normal, or even to a smaller size when you get off the juice.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's hilarious to me when roidtards willingly damage their internal organs without knowing EXACTLY what they're getting into and how to maximize gains with the window of time they have before their liver/kidneys/ect. are shot.

          and yes, people make gains without lifting while on steroids. Just like livestock do, you fucking retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I frauded and my delts and traps blew up. I used to OHP the heaviest dumbbells at a meme gym for lulz, but really even basic isolation shit was enough for painful pumps (god I miss those). 6yrs clean now.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Yeah, anyone can afford three houses
          >I have an infinite bank account
          Do you see your own logic?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I know something because I took hormones like a chud
          LMAO

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post body dyel

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >smith machine
      Do you wear lifting gloves

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unfortunate face
      He kinda looks like Bradley Cooper from Wish

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what an unfortunate face.
      In what way?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what an unfortunate face
      I mean he doesn't look particularly handsome sure but I don't think he's all that ugly either just very average.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This exercise that i'm actively doing is superior to the exercise I don't like
    IST moment

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >provides no argument
      why do people make these threads

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    still far inferior to front raises

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe for building side delts but its definitely not as fun

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lame ROM kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks absolutely fine

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Once you get to a higher weight it's a bitch to get them up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I watched a guy the other day just using 50s. He didn't seem to understand how to push the weight to his shoulders using his knees and kept contorting his arm around trying to curl them up with a look of pure anguish on his face. I was gonna say something but then I figured if you're too dumb to figure out how to lift your knees, you're not going to follow any advice.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        this unironically might have been me lmao, was doing seated dumbbell ohp on friday with 50s and i just forced them up to my shoulder

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I watched a guy the other day just using 50s. He didn't seem to understand how to push the weight to his shoulders using his knees and kept contorting his arm around trying to curl them up with a look of pure anguish on his face. I was gonna say something but then I figured if you're too dumb to figure out how to lift your knees, you're not going to follow any advice.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do them standing and just clean the weight up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        same

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both are important. Barbell OHP allows you to work the main muscle bodies/fibers that go into The Press, allowing for faster progress. Dumbbell distributes the work more evenly throughout the delts and other stabilizers, making your muscles more well-rounded and your movements safer.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better for hypertrophy and isolating your upper shoulder/delts.

    Worse for explosive power and functional strength.

    Also:
    >Not combining the two.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      how do you do both at the same time?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do standing dumbbell overhead press. best of both worlds

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not at the same time. Just incorporate them both in your split. On the same day.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is he sitting down?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I never flare my elbow as much as that, I think it's safer to put your elbows much more forward, yeah you'll lift less weight but that's not a powerlifting exercise.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you the same Anon who keeps shitting on the barbell bench press? What, did a barbell rape you and your family, or something?

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For me it's standing seesaw press

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    unironically is not. ohp + lateral raises on a machine is s tier

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >bends back your arm and snaps it

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Op sub 2pl8 ohper, ignore thread.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have fun spending money on 50lb dumbbells when you already have 1pl8

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do both.
    I don't need to choose.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >half reps

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mogs your dumbbells
    Barbell is still king for absolute strength, but the KB press comes damn close

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why are kettlebell autists so autistic?
      They have to do exercises with retarded form just so they can use their autistic kettlebell rather than just using a dumbbell like a normal person.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Spotted the DYEL. KBs aren't the end all be all of fitness tools, but there are things they mog in and overhead pressing is one of them.
        Its a more natural movement than the DB press, it builds total shoulder girdle strength because of all the upper back involvement in maintaining the rack position and it can be done bottoms up as an excellent rehab exercise for people recovering from shoulder injuries.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        s
        i agree with this for a lot of things with kb, but kb feel great with these

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I absolutely fucked my left rotator cuff doing those. Took almost a year to fully heal

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    once you get past DYEL weights those become dangerous

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    He is doing them wrong. You need push your elbows in when your lowering the weight.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post body.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not doing both
    shiggy diggy

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Arnold press is better still.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Barbell OHP is superior in every single way, no questions. I am biased as fuck however

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My shoulders grew more Arnold pressing than BB OHP. I got to 150lbs strict and had enough of the glacial progression.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      arnold press is a more hypertrophic but also more impingementtrophic exercise

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dumbbell variant of literally every lift is superior to the barbell version

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      javelin throw

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm afraid of lifting big weights therefore I'm gonna claim the dumbell variation of x exercise is superior without posting body to convince myself

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