Yes. Oversized chest muscles is a boob substitute selected for in bodybuilders by literal homosexual judges who select based on their degenerate homosexual fetishes which conflict with the hard-wired desire for feminine qualities that they overcompensate for with pectoral muscle size.
Build a strong chest, yes, but train for aesthetics determined by function, not by literal homosexual fetishes that have bled into the wider fitness world.
Take your pic of any bronze era bodybuilder, I just picked one at random but they all look better than modern standards even if some could go a little larger
https://i.imgur.com/DH2zGBF.gif
Oversized chests like OP are definitely just male boobs.
I think this is the right chest size. It's the right amount of size to have a blocky chest without it being too overbearing and looking like breasts.
I think the guy you posted would look flat in a shirt, but maybe that's just how he's posing
Look at the size of his arms, traps and shoulders, he would be exploding out of any t shirt that wasn't oversized or stupidly baggy, but I agree his chest could be a bit larger without entering silly-looking territory.
I do like the scale ideia for human sexuality compared to the rigid identities we have going on now.
I'm straight, but if a very hot guy would show up and be willing i could hit that, but I wouldn't love the guy or want to date the guy.
So I don't see myself as gay, but I don't see myself as 100% pure str8 either.
Nor do i see myself bi.
I'm str8 but could do something gay under VERY SPECIFIC AND EXTRAORIDNARY cirucstances.
The chances of a super hot underwear model looking guy approach me is zero so the relevancy of me being open to frick a guy like that is also zero but it's there.
So what you're saying is that if a guy was hot enough you'd do gay stuff with him.
But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with him. And it's you who is allowing him to do gay stuff with you.
When I see a hot underwear model, I don't think about us having gay sex. I see him as someone who has a nice body and I want a body like his so therefore it's a goal to achieve. I don't even think of meeting or touching him. You on the other hand, think of sex with a man. Youre the gay one here
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Youre the gay one here
I agree. I may be more gay than you.
But I did say that if he was willing, if he showed interest, not something I would go after,
Like if a hot guy showed up I wouldn't care, if a hot guy showed up and flirted with me I would go "hun... Why not" which is not that gay to me imo, but I know it's very gay to some guy who would never even consider that and some that would even feel repulsed by the ideia.
But I don't see myself as 100% gay because: >It's not something I outright want. >It's not something I would seek. >It's not something I feel I need. >It never happened and probably never will so it's a complete mental scenario that will influence 0 on my normal adjusted life.
So to me I'm more gay than most but less gay than many.
So in the scale model I would be a 1, which makes sense to me.
In the identity model I would be bi or bi-curious which I think is dumb and doesn't represent what I feel well.
>Youre the gay one here
I agree. I may be more gay than you.
But I did say that if he was willing, if he showed interest, not something I would go after,
Like if a hot guy showed up I wouldn't care, if a hot guy showed up and flirted with me I would go "hun... Why not" which is not that gay to me imo, but I know it's very gay to some guy who would never even consider that and some that would even feel repulsed by the ideia.
But I don't see myself as 100% gay because: >It's not something I outright want. >It's not something I would seek. >It's not something I feel I need. >It never happened and probably never will so it's a complete mental scenario that will influence 0 on my normal adjusted life.
So to me I'm more gay than most but less gay than many.
So in the scale model I would be a 1, which makes sense to me.
In the identity model I would be bi or bi-curious which I think is dumb and doesn't represent what I feel well.
homie you gay, or bi whatever.
Putting sexuality on a scale is moronic, you're either gay or you're not. Your preference in partners is completely irrelevant.
You wouldn't say you're only half attracted to a dude, that doesn't make sense.
U gay af
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Putting sexuality on a scale is moronic
I think the other way around, sexuality should be more fluid, setting your sexuality hard in stone is moronic imo.
>you're either gay or you're not.
I don't think it's that simple, look at ancient times, look at all men environments.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not only are you gay, you're also a moronic.
It's really fricking simple: >do you like women?
Straight >do you like men?
gay >do you like both?
bi
You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont. >b-but i'd only frick a really hot guy
not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
11 months ago
Anonymous
A moron*
11 months ago
Anonymous
>not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
Doesn't? Are you sure?
>You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont.
It's not that simple imo, I'll probrably spend my entire life without having gay sex, so how can I be gay if I never acted upon the ideia of a possibility? Is too small too little, too incidental for me to be considered bi.
At least imo.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I'll probrably spend my entire life without having gay sex, so how can I be gay if I never acted upon the ideia of a possibility?
Not him you are still gay, you just haven't had sex the same way I'm still straight but a virgin. Most people are 100% straight, next is bi in different ranges(i.e bi but like men more), then 100% gay/lesbian, then asexual
11 months ago
Anonymous
>next is bi in different ranges
We basically agree.
Just change the nomenclature.
The different ranges of bi is just different levels of gay and straight.
Bi are people who really WANT to go out with both sexes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>are you sure?
Yes, obese women are disgusting but my (lack of) attraction to them has nothing to do with men. >How gay if no buttsex???
We used to call that being in the closet.
Would you frick a dude under ANY circumstances?
You are gay, simple as, trying to put this on a scale is terminally online internet autism. Not everything belongs on a scale.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>We used to call that being in the closet
Not really, buttsex as the default form of gay sex is farely recent, ancient people used to have more genital gay sex.
vegana with vegana and dick with dick.
Also tight sex between guys in Rome and Greece.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And you know this how? Gay boy
11 months ago
Anonymous
I have been reading about the subject.
Human sexuality is quite interesting.
Also my uncle is the biggest historian of Catholic church and Christianity history in my country and he often talked about the Inquisition and inquisition documents, one day he talked about, I think gay stuff was on the news, how homosexuality was seen as normal and not a big deal in ancient japan and when the inquisitors and Jesuits got there they were horrified and talked about their letters, much of Japan's puritanism and views on same sex attraction in modern times is influenced by those Jesuits. They used to be much more open minded.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Bro just do you. People love to have labels and identity politics. If you're looking for that 1 word thats going to explain your sexuality... you won't find it.
Don't let gays like
Not only are you gay, you're also a moronic.
It's really fricking simple: >do you like women?
Straight >do you like men?
gay >do you like both?
bi
You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont. >b-but i'd only frick a really hot guy
not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
tell you you have to identify as something. Whatever makes you comfortable and happy is all that matters.
Not only are you gay, you're also a moronic.
It's really fricking simple: >do you like women?
Straight >do you like men?
gay >do you like both?
bi
You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont. >b-but i'd only frick a really hot guy
not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
You can be attracted to attractive people of both genders with or without being gay or straight.
Attractive people are attractive. Why do you try to shame someone for liking both things that are clearly pleasant for other people
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this dude is very pleasing to look at
vs >i'd let him frick me in the ass
Admiring beauty is not gay, wanting to get pegged definitely is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>People love to have labels and identity politics
I think they are literally damaging society.
>You can be attracted to attractive people of both genders with or without being gay or straight.
Some people just can't get over this obvious fact, this black and white mentality is deeply harmful imo.
That's Eugen Sandow you absolute homosexual. Guarantee he was stronger than you even with early 20ths century equipment, knowledge and full natty status
>Yes. Oversized chest muscles is a boob substitute selected for in bodybuilders by literal homosexual judges who select based on their degenerate homosexual fetishes which conflict with the hard-wired desire for feminine qualities that they overcompensate for with pectoral muscle size.
This is why you should never, EVER listen to straight men explain to you how to be sexually attractive to women holy shit. Being attractive is gay to these people
Yeah people should listen to degenerate homosexuals like you instead beacuse homos really know what women want and don't project their own fetishes at all lmao
kys
Incorrect. It’s a common misconception that homos know more about what women want than straight guys. This is just a myth perpetuated by the 'gay best friend' character in rom-coms.
Except every woman will tell you a time in high school they were obsessed with a man only to find out he was gay and were crushed by it. Straight men are too frightened of the gay boogey man to know how to look at their own bodies sexually, so they are doomed to say moronic shit like "women HATE big sexy muscular chests guys! Trust me on this!"
Yes, because they were attracted to his personality, they socialised together allt and those guys weren't fully outwardly gay yet.
Plenty of gays I knew had a jump start on sex because they had really close female friends and it turned into sex, only for him to realise he's actually gay. 10 years later, the girl is with a masculine man and the gay guy has a stubble-beard, receding hairline with overly flamboyant clothing and dresses in drag on the weekend.
All the women I've known to have gay friends find their sex lives completely alien: eating ass in a club toilet or fisting, dressing up in fetish-esque gear to show off body larts that women aren't interested in etc. They also don't find their outwardly gay personalities attractive and 9/10 women I know are repulsed by seeing men engage in gay sex and won't view that kind of porn.
Lots of what works on gay men works on women.
Girls like the pretty boy look or the muscle daddy look. I think lots of gays can attract a woman if they really wanted too. Sometimes more masculine gays have to tell a girl he's gay.
As you can see BOTH genders like chest, it's a very nice muscle, nice to grab and just pops out when you get shirtless and invite them to play with your muscles.
But girls, at least to my experience like it WAY more than guys, they just gravitate to it, if they are not looking at my six pack they will FOR SURE go for my chest.
My arms? They only touch it, grab it, squeeze it when I present them, if left on their own they always go for six pack or chest.
Guys on the other hand if not going for your dick are going for your arms.
>shoulders
Girls do like and appreciate shoulders more than guys tho, at least to my experience, most guys are unable to appreciate leg muscles and shoulders and that's why most guys have very bad aesthetics.
Girls often fixate their eyes on good shoulders when they see it.
i disagree. infact i believe traps and shoulders are the main muscles of attractiveness
when i say trap i mean the entire trap muscle, aka what makes your back thick
Girls love chest, it's their favorite muscle after sixpacks! WTF.
Wrong.
Women: >height >social status >personality >career/wealth >physique
Gay men: >Face >Ass/dick >a specific fetish like feet, biceps, balls, asses etc basically the same as a straight man but projected onto a man instead of a woman >personality >wealth >>>>
[...]
gap<<<<<<<<<<< >social status
A woman will brag about her man's achievements and status, she will almost live through them and that will impress her girlfriends the most. My ex's bragged about my job, that I had a house, that I did mma and mountaineering etc.
homosexuals are like any other normal man and will firstly brag and impress their buddies with the physical beauty of their partner over anything else.
Women will literally judge other women and either like or be jealous of attractive women, but judge men on firstlyhis personality and then his height.
My aunt couldn't understand why her gay son would bang a rightwing politician who she hated, saying he was a bad person and really short. Her son laughed and said 'I never said I liked him and I don't care about his height, I'm just saying I'd frick him'.
I was talking about body and muscles. It's no secret muscles are not even near the top of women's priority.
Or even gay men, despite the fact gay guys often like muscles, way more than women, they are all about the D, which is sad and the main reason I distance myself form gay guys.
So yeah women don't care that much about muscles BUT in the context of their favorite muscles and body parts chest is very high in the list, at least in my perception.
im 6'6 and it never meant anything to women whatsoever. So again, that is an american thing, only americans care about height, probably because you idolize black NBA players so much
>im 6'6 and it never meant anything to women whatsoever. So again, that is an american thing, only americans care about height, probably because you idolize black NBA players so much
I agree.
I'm Brazilian but I spend most of my youth in Germany, in none of these places height was a big factor.
Sure a very tall guy is going to grab a lot of looks just because it's so different and out of the ordinary and just fun to look at.
But no girl is going reject you because you are short outside USA, it's just not a factor for most women, I'm not that tall and I never had ANY issue getting girls or guys.
Only Americans care because only America is racially mixed enough that you have a ton of different groups with wildly different heights all interacting together. Any Euro country, the vast majority of guys are going to be within +/- 5 cm of the average, so who cares?
>Only Americans care because only America is racially mixed enough that you have a ton of different groups with wildly different heights all interacting together. Any Euro country, the vast majority of guys are going to be within +/- 5 cm of the average, so who cares?
I'm from Brazil and here in the South we are also very mixed and no one cares as much as you guys. It's a cultural thing for sure.
my chest is my best body part and while i sometimes wish it was a little smaller, girls definitively love it, it's a little weird but all of the people here saying that big chests are gay — no, they are just sexual, and hence, sexy (to, but not only to, gays)
Women like strong and muscular chests obviously but you reach a point where you are trading masculinity for femininity and catering exclusively for homosexuals
I know I just escaped auschwitz and got a lot of work left, but I still think I should lower chest work when I specifically don't want big juicy man milkers and we live in a world where
https://i.imgur.com/wDaNeoR.jpg
>porn for women >written by women >illustrated by women. >zero marketing towards men whatsoever >Most successful cover model has Arnie type pecs >Literal Mike O’Hearn becomes successful cover model after picrel retires
Depends on your genetics. I'm barrel chested and I bet if I intentionally trained my chest hard I would end up looking ridiculous. Even now with the little work I'm doing I think I should cut back as it fricks up how my shoulders and arms look
>30+ >single for life >never had an official girlfriend, or a ''fling'' that wasn't a PR movie promo relationship for media bait >no wife, no kids in his late 30s??? >seen regularly at gay bars, has pics with gay men >exhibits classic ''daddy/bear'' gay guy physique traits (see picture)
>but muh globohomosexual gay psyop being pushed 24/7
"gay" movie star is still a niche that would have gotten him smaller roles . He's not Ian McKellen who had decades of serious acting to his credit, he's not even that great of an actor. His main shtick is being hot, so he would have not become an A list leading man
I have that beanie. I really wish i had a 2003 England shirt but my Dad (and mother) were so cheap they got me a shitty England shirt from wilkinsons.
It was only a year later I got an Arsenal shirt then a year later the final Highbury shirt ffs, why not a legendary 2003 shirt?!
The best part of this thread is that the OP pic is a fricking photoshop. In other words, people here viewed a softcore gay image disguised as a celebrity selfie. Good job on proving IST is homosexual yet again.
>porn for women >written by women >illustrated by women. >zero marketing towards men whatsoever >Most successful cover model has Arnie type pecs >Literal Mike O’Hearn becomes successful cover model after picrel retires
i think that was more of an overall combo of the luscious hair while still having a manly face, overall fit body, and being an "exotic" foreigner. Never seen anyone mention his breasts
True that. Just meant that his gorilla breasts didn’t make him look feminine.
Fabio is physique goals though, lean enough to look good but not hate your life, jacked enough to impress chicks and dudes, just needs to release his hair routine
Guys being gay was not even a thing til very recently.
You could do GAY stuff but you were not a GAY PERSON that was a made up classification, don't know it it truly makes sense.
People have been doing gay shit in the army, navy, prison(although this is more like rape and stuff), temples, all boys and all girls schools, monasteries, nunneries etc...
People will do same sex stuff based on situation, that's just who we are in our horny selves, to label and mark people as GAY or STRAIGHT is dumb imo.
No. No such thing as too much bench.
CHEST DAY, BEST DAY.
EVERY DAY IS CHEST DAY.
Yjk he's a bottom
MILKIE MILKIE DADDY MILKIE
Yes. Oversized chest muscles is a boob substitute selected for in bodybuilders by literal homosexual judges who select based on their degenerate homosexual fetishes which conflict with the hard-wired desire for feminine qualities that they overcompensate for with pectoral muscle size.
Build a strong chest, yes, but train for aesthetics determined by function, not by literal homosexual fetishes that have bled into the wider fitness world.
I agree with the sentiment but this is too little chest though
Take your pic of any bronze era bodybuilder, I just picked one at random but they all look better than modern standards even if some could go a little larger
Look at the size of his arms, traps and shoulders, he would be exploding out of any t shirt that wasn't oversized or stupidly baggy, but I agree his chest could be a bit larger without entering silly-looking territory.
>Look at the size of his arms, traps and shoulders, he would be exploding out of any t shirt
Oversized chests like OP are definitely just male boobs.
I think this is the right chest size. It's the right amount of size to have a blocky chest without it being too overbearing and looking like breasts.
I think the guy you posted would look flat in a shirt, but maybe that's just how he's posing
Why do you have this gif saved on your device?
It's my goal body. No its not gay. I don't want to frick him. I want to look like him. Totally different and no sexual
homie, YOU GAY.
Why does an attractive guy make you have gay thoughts?
Human are sexual beings?
I do like the scale ideia for human sexuality compared to the rigid identities we have going on now.
I'm straight, but if a very hot guy would show up and be willing i could hit that, but I wouldn't love the guy or want to date the guy.
So I don't see myself as gay, but I don't see myself as 100% pure str8 either.
Nor do i see myself bi.
I'm str8 but could do something gay under VERY SPECIFIC AND EXTRAORIDNARY cirucstances.
The chances of a super hot underwear model looking guy approach me is zero so the relevancy of me being open to frick a guy like that is also zero but it's there.
So what you're saying is that if a guy was hot enough you'd do gay stuff with him.
But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with him. And it's you who is allowing him to do gay stuff with you.
When I see a hot underwear model, I don't think about us having gay sex. I see him as someone who has a nice body and I want a body like his so therefore it's a goal to achieve. I don't even think of meeting or touching him. You on the other hand, think of sex with a man. Youre the gay one here
>Youre the gay one here
I agree. I may be more gay than you.
But I did say that if he was willing, if he showed interest, not something I would go after,
Like if a hot guy showed up I wouldn't care, if a hot guy showed up and flirted with me I would go "hun... Why not" which is not that gay to me imo, but I know it's very gay to some guy who would never even consider that and some that would even feel repulsed by the ideia.
But I don't see myself as 100% gay because:
>It's not something I outright want.
>It's not something I would seek.
>It's not something I feel I need.
>It never happened and probably never will so it's a complete mental scenario that will influence 0 on my normal adjusted life.
So to me I'm more gay than most but less gay than many.
So in the scale model I would be a 1, which makes sense to me.
In the identity model I would be bi or bi-curious which I think is dumb and doesn't represent what I feel well.
Why are you gay
I dunno, I saw hot guys and got a hard on.
Opportunistically bi? That's an identity right?
Identities are dumb. EMBRACE THE SCALE!
homie you gay, or bi whatever.
Putting sexuality on a scale is moronic, you're either gay or you're not. Your preference in partners is completely irrelevant.
You wouldn't say you're only half attracted to a dude, that doesn't make sense.
U gay af
>Putting sexuality on a scale is moronic
I think the other way around, sexuality should be more fluid, setting your sexuality hard in stone is moronic imo.
>you're either gay or you're not.
I don't think it's that simple, look at ancient times, look at all men environments.
Not only are you gay, you're also a moronic.
It's really fricking simple:
>do you like women?
Straight
>do you like men?
gay
>do you like both?
bi
You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont.
>b-but i'd only frick a really hot guy
not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
A moron*
>not liking obese women doesn't make me any less straight
Doesn't? Are you sure?
>You can't be half attracted to a sex, the one you prefer to date has no impact on how gay you are, because attraction is binary, you either frick someone or you dont.
It's not that simple imo, I'll probrably spend my entire life without having gay sex, so how can I be gay if I never acted upon the ideia of a possibility? Is too small too little, too incidental for me to be considered bi.
At least imo.
>I'll probrably spend my entire life without having gay sex, so how can I be gay if I never acted upon the ideia of a possibility?
Not him you are still gay, you just haven't had sex the same way I'm still straight but a virgin. Most people are 100% straight, next is bi in different ranges(i.e bi but like men more), then 100% gay/lesbian, then asexual
>next is bi in different ranges
We basically agree.
Just change the nomenclature.
The different ranges of bi is just different levels of gay and straight.
Bi are people who really WANT to go out with both sexes.
>are you sure?
Yes, obese women are disgusting but my (lack of) attraction to them has nothing to do with men.
>How gay if no buttsex???
We used to call that being in the closet.
Would you frick a dude under ANY circumstances?
You are gay, simple as, trying to put this on a scale is terminally online internet autism. Not everything belongs on a scale.
>We used to call that being in the closet
Not really, buttsex as the default form of gay sex is farely recent, ancient people used to have more genital gay sex.
vegana with vegana and dick with dick.
Also tight sex between guys in Rome and Greece.
And you know this how? Gay boy
I have been reading about the subject.
Human sexuality is quite interesting.
Also my uncle is the biggest historian of Catholic church and Christianity history in my country and he often talked about the Inquisition and inquisition documents, one day he talked about, I think gay stuff was on the news, how homosexuality was seen as normal and not a big deal in ancient japan and when the inquisitors and Jesuits got there they were horrified and talked about their letters, much of Japan's puritanism and views on same sex attraction in modern times is influenced by those Jesuits. They used to be much more open minded.
Bro just do you. People love to have labels and identity politics. If you're looking for that 1 word thats going to explain your sexuality... you won't find it.
Don't let gays like
tell you you have to identify as something. Whatever makes you comfortable and happy is all that matters.
You can be attracted to attractive people of both genders with or without being gay or straight.
Attractive people are attractive. Why do you try to shame someone for liking both things that are clearly pleasant for other people
>this dude is very pleasing to look at
vs
>i'd let him frick me in the ass
Admiring beauty is not gay, wanting to get pegged definitely is.
>People love to have labels and identity politics
I think they are literally damaging society.
>You can be attracted to attractive people of both genders with or without being gay or straight.
Some people just can't get over this obvious fact, this black and white mentality is deeply harmful imo.
Rolling for 5
No
these guys look absolutely pathetic and the black and white makes them look more cut than they actually are
Cope and post boobs
That's Eugen Sandow you absolute homosexual. Guarantee he was stronger than you even with early 20ths century equipment, knowledge and full natty status
>Yes. Oversized chest muscles is a boob substitute selected for in bodybuilders by literal homosexual judges who select based on their degenerate homosexual fetishes which conflict with the hard-wired desire for feminine qualities that they overcompensate for with pectoral muscle size.
This is why you should never, EVER listen to straight men explain to you how to be sexually attractive to women holy shit. Being attractive is gay to these people
Yeah people should listen to degenerate homosexuals like you instead beacuse homos really know what women want and don't project their own fetishes at all lmao
kys
Yes, correct
Incorrect. It’s a common misconception that homos know more about what women want than straight guys. This is just a myth perpetuated by the 'gay best friend' character in rom-coms.
Gaymen don't know how to be attractive to women, since gaymen are even more physically-visually perversive than straight men.
Except every woman will tell you a time in high school they were obsessed with a man only to find out he was gay and were crushed by it. Straight men are too frightened of the gay boogey man to know how to look at their own bodies sexually, so they are doomed to say moronic shit like "women HATE big sexy muscular chests guys! Trust me on this!"
ITT: several homos lusting over Cavill’s hairy breasts and exactly zero biological women
I'm not a statistician but given that IST is like 1/3rd homohomosexual and we have like 2 females, I think the match checks out
Yes, because they were attracted to his personality, they socialised together allt and those guys weren't fully outwardly gay yet.
Plenty of gays I knew had a jump start on sex because they had really close female friends and it turned into sex, only for him to realise he's actually gay. 10 years later, the girl is with a masculine man and the gay guy has a stubble-beard, receding hairline with overly flamboyant clothing and dresses in drag on the weekend.
All the women I've known to have gay friends find their sex lives completely alien: eating ass in a club toilet or fisting, dressing up in fetish-esque gear to show off body larts that women aren't interested in etc. They also don't find their outwardly gay personalities attractive and 9/10 women I know are repulsed by seeing men engage in gay sex and won't view that kind of porn.
all gays have a jump start on sex from being molested as children
Congrats on the dumbest and biggest cope post of the day so far
Pictured: zero arguments
Lots of what works on gay men works on women.
Girls like the pretty boy look or the muscle daddy look. I think lots of gays can attract a woman if they really wanted too. Sometimes more masculine gays have to tell a girl he's gay.
In my exp talking and interacting with both genders:
Parts girls love the most:
1-Sixpack,
2-Chest.
3-Shoulders.
4-Legs.
5-Latissimus dorsi.
Gay guys:
1-Bicpes.
2-Triceps.
4-Sixpack.
5-Chest.
As you can see BOTH genders like chest, it's a very nice muscle, nice to grab and just pops out when you get shirtless and invite them to play with your muscles.
But girls, at least to my experience like it WAY more than guys, they just gravitate to it, if they are not looking at my six pack they will FOR SURE go for my chest.
My arms? They only touch it, grab it, squeeze it when I present them, if left on their own they always go for six pack or chest.
Guys on the other hand if not going for your dick are going for your arms.
i disagree. infact i believe traps and shoulders are the main muscles of attractiveness
when i say trap i mean the entire trap muscle, aka what makes your back thick
To you personally maybe.
Back muscles, imo, are waaaay underrated in mainstream conscious, very few people care or appreciate their beauty.
Most who do, often have VERY good taste about most things.
Ah we are gentleman and scholars the two of us then
Cheers my good sir.
>shoulders
Girls do like and appreciate shoulders more than guys tho, at least to my experience, most guys are unable to appreciate leg muscles and shoulders and that's why most guys have very bad aesthetics.
Girls often fixate their eyes on good shoulders when they see it.
agreed
Wrong.
Women:
>height
>social status
>personality
>career/wealth
>physique
Gay men:
>Face
>Ass/dick
>a specific fetish like feet, biceps, balls, asses etc basically the same as a straight man but projected onto a man instead of a woman
>personality
>wealth
>>>>
gap<<<<<<<<<<<
>social status
A woman will brag about her man's achievements and status, she will almost live through them and that will impress her girlfriends the most. My ex's bragged about my job, that I had a house, that I did mma and mountaineering etc.
homosexuals are like any other normal man and will firstly brag and impress their buddies with the physical beauty of their partner over anything else.
Women will literally judge other women and either like or be jealous of attractive women, but judge men on firstlyhis personality and then his height.
My aunt couldn't understand why her gay son would bang a rightwing politician who she hated, saying he was a bad person and really short. Her son laughed and said 'I never said I liked him and I don't care about his height, I'm just saying I'd frick him'.
mate. this is euro hours, we arent americans, we dont care about money
infact i live in scandinavia and looks >>>>> money by a large margin
>we dont care about money
Of course you don't, they take it all away from you in taxes
Yeah which is why it's a non-issue, welcome to a functioning western society (assuming he's not fricking swedish)
>Wrong.
>Women:
status
I was talking about body and muscles. It's no secret muscles are not even near the top of women's priority.
Or even gay men, despite the fact gay guys often like muscles, way more than women, they are all about the D, which is sad and the main reason I distance myself form gay guys.
So yeah women don't care that much about muscles BUT in the context of their favorite muscles and body parts chest is very high in the list, at least in my perception.
furthermore. height doesnt matter
im 6'6 and it never meant anything to women whatsoever. So again, that is an american thing, only americans care about height, probably because you idolize black NBA players so much
>im 6'6 and it never meant anything to women whatsoever. So again, that is an american thing, only americans care about height, probably because you idolize black NBA players so much
I agree.
I'm Brazilian but I spend most of my youth in Germany, in none of these places height was a big factor.
Sure a very tall guy is going to grab a lot of looks just because it's so different and out of the ordinary and just fun to look at.
But no girl is going reject you because you are short outside USA, it's just not a factor for most women, I'm not that tall and I never had ANY issue getting girls or guys.
Only Americans care because only America is racially mixed enough that you have a ton of different groups with wildly different heights all interacting together. Any Euro country, the vast majority of guys are going to be within +/- 5 cm of the average, so who cares?
>Only Americans care because only America is racially mixed enough that you have a ton of different groups with wildly different heights all interacting together. Any Euro country, the vast majority of guys are going to be within +/- 5 cm of the average, so who cares?
I'm from Brazil and here in the South we are also very mixed and no one cares as much as you guys. It's a cultural thing for sure.
gay PROPAGANDA lats and pecs are for the gays, abs, shoulders, glutes and bis for the bawds, with a healthy dose of back thickness
Girls love chest, it's their favorite muscle after sixpacks! WTF.
She said this part was improv by her btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyQMDvMtMz4 @ 1:30
>She said this part was improv by her btw
Yeah girls love pecs, it's just so round and symmetrical, it makes their monke brain goes BRRRR.
Guys saying that pecs are a gay plot to take over the world or something are homosexuals. It's clearly not the case.
>I wanna look like these boomers!!!!
no one cares zoomie
my chest is my best body part and while i sometimes wish it was a little smaller, girls definitively love it, it's a little weird but all of the people here saying that big chests are gay — no, they are just sexual, and hence, sexy (to, but not only to, gays)
Women like strong and muscular chests obviously but you reach a point where you are trading masculinity for femininity and catering exclusively for homosexuals
>Consider yourself dominated, you scot sonofabitch!
Somehow Ive never fapped to Henry before......
He has nudes you know
no fricking way
Some TV show he did. Then there are deep fakes if you're into that
dude, if you're not fricking with some poor homosexual plssssssss point me in the right direction
I think I may be overdoing it with chest. Want flatter breasts.
brown
Yes
Alright, thanks boss. Gonna focus on legs and arms +strength gainz nao.
(You)
Nah you're good. You're not too blocky and not too flat either. I'd stop building size if I were you
lol
can't over do it when you are DYEL to begin with lmao
I know I just escaped auschwitz and got a lot of work left, but I still think I should lower chest work when I specifically don't want big juicy man milkers and we live in a world where
is the true peak performance.
Post physique
youre underdoing your entire body twink midget
>I want flatter breasts
They aren't that big, proportionally I think they're fine
Depends on your genetics. I'm barrel chested and I bet if I intentionally trained my chest hard I would end up looking ridiculous. Even now with the little work I'm doing I think I should cut back as it fricks up how my shoulders and arms look
When is this homosexual gonna come out?
>30+
>single for life
>never had an official girlfriend, or a ''fling'' that wasn't a PR movie promo relationship for media bait
>no wife, no kids in his late 30s???
>seen regularly at gay bars, has pics with gay men
>exhibits classic ''daddy/bear'' gay guy physique traits (see picture)
if the penny didn't drop yet for y'all....
He wouldn't have had the career he's had, simple as
to finish the thought
>but muh globohomosexual gay psyop being pushed 24/7
"gay" movie star is still a niche that would have gotten him smaller roles . He's not Ian McKellen who had decades of serious acting to his credit, he's not even that great of an actor. His main shtick is being hot, so he would have not become an A list leading man
He will, just wait for his homosexual rendition to 40K.
He's clearly gay. But it would hurt his career if he came out. The rumors say he is a sub verse
I have that beanie. I really wish i had a 2003 England shirt but my Dad (and mother) were so cheap they got me a shitty England shirt from wilkinsons.
It was only a year later I got an Arsenal shirt then a year later the final Highbury shirt ffs, why not a legendary 2003 shirt?!
I am 100% straight, but I'd let Henry frick my ass raw
Sigh. Another beta bottom.
Bruv, I'm not a bottom I'm straight
>also a bong
Shocker.
I'm Dutch actually
Grim
You wot m8
No, pecs and arms are the only muscles girls can mire even when you have a shirt on.
The best part of this thread is that the OP pic is a fricking photoshop. In other words, people here viewed a softcore gay image disguised as a celebrity selfie. Good job on proving IST is homosexual yet again.
>the board with a daily general of half naked men is homosexual
Wow. So profound
>proving the obvious
Its a pretty good shoop though you gotta admit
wish i still had the webm of him doing a POV workout but it just looks like you're riding his uncut wiener
Am I doing too much chest? Should I quit?
all looks good. shoulders, biceps, and chest looking huge. perhaps more triceps, and traps though.
>shoulders, biceps, and chest looking huge
You're new to IST huh?
Do what you want anon 🙂
What bicep exercises do you do
>porn for women
>written by women
>illustrated by women.
>zero marketing towards men whatsoever
>Most successful cover model has Arnie type pecs
>Literal Mike O’Hearn becomes successful cover model after picrel retires
Pretty sure chicks like big pecs
i think that was more of an overall combo of the luscious hair while still having a manly face, overall fit body, and being an "exotic" foreigner. Never seen anyone mention his breasts
True that. Just meant that his gorilla breasts didn’t make him look feminine.
Fabio is physique goals though, lean enough to look good but not hate your life, jacked enough to impress chicks and dudes, just needs to release his hair routine
back and shoulders, gentlemen, back and shoulders
ITT:
>women love [my best feature] the most!
>they don't care about the [thing I lack] at all!
Yes any amount of bench. Dips build a better more aesthetic chest
a thread about Henry Cavill's weirdly gay picture turned into a schizo fest about what gurls want, lmao
No.
There's such a thing as too little everything else though.
No
It feels good having a chest that bounces when you run, tbh
Guys being gay was not even a thing til very recently.
You could do GAY stuff but you were not a GAY PERSON that was a made up classification, don't know it it truly makes sense.
People have been doing gay shit in the army, navy, prison(although this is more like rape and stuff), temples, all boys and all girls schools, monasteries, nunneries etc...
People will do same sex stuff based on situation, that's just who we are in our horny selves, to label and mark people as GAY or STRAIGHT is dumb imo.
I will never allow a girlfriend to titmog me