Is there any fit people here? Do you still eat things like pizza, burgers, and fries? Or did you have to give all of that up?
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Yeah. I try to avoid them, but I will still eat them whenever the occasion arises. Your training is far more important than making sure you avoid bad meals altogether.
Just make sure it's all home made so you know what and how much is in it.
This. I don't go to pizza places or burger joints, but I will make those foods at home, but only occasionally. Don't be lazy and don't be a pig; simply track your intake and macros and make sure they align with your goals.
I agre with your point about pizza & burger joints, my homemade burgers taste way better than the ones at my local burger restauraunts / fast food joints
but i find it really difficult to make a pizza so thats why i choose to buy it from pizza restauraunts
still.. allow yourself to spoil yourself, guys ! a pizza once a week wont do shit if youre actually going to the gym 3-5 times a week
rather youll lose gains if you feel like youre imprisoned to only a select range of foods week after week with zero variety
>a pizza once a week wont do shit if youre actually going to the gym 3-5 times a week
I mean a pizza can have more energy than what you expend in 3-5 gym sessions (if youre a twink or lazy) since the average gym session doesn't burn much energy at all.
a pizza a week can definitely ruin a cut.
people arent having buttsex in the gym like in your head, friend.. train hard and stop thinking of twinks
at the gym and youll be able to obiliterate a pizza every/other week or so just like twinks obiliterates your ass
As someone who does cardio, I eat that shit all the time. I eat more than everyone I know.
I fricked up my schedule. Should have ran yesterday and lifted today. Now it's pouring rain. Dubs and i run in the rain anyway.
chek'd
good luck on the run sonny boy
Goddamit
shit how is it?
I do, but I make an effort to avoid them. I always make sure degrease pizzas and burgers with kitchen roll. Everything in moderation.
A lot of my student pals live on frozen pizzas, can't be good for them but they seem to be doing okay. I think being active is more important.
See ya pal! Get running.
I eat what I want. Except on sunday when I fast. Losing fat and gaining muscle
for this fasting technique, isn't not getting protein for the day a big detriment?
Not unless you burn through all of your fat in a single day. The idea that your body starts eating muscle is a myth to stop teens from starving themselves. Only once the body has consumed all of its fat will it start to eat your muscle. Thats what fat is for.
No.
CICO™
cico is a myth
>300 lbs minimum
>Muh genetics
CICO is a cult
Vegans and ketogays base their identity around what they eat and fasters will make threads to talk about it
Apparently CICO is a cult because some people share their experience losing weight by counting calories but you are a seething fattie that can't do basic arithmetic...
Seethe, cope and quite possibly dilate
>CICO
>Basic arithmetic
>Yeah, bro, just gotta figure out exactly how many calories I'm absorbing into my body, which is a function of a myriad of things which are too long to list but ironically include caloric expenditure.
>Even if you, by some magic, can calculate the calories in part, you still have to figure out the calories out, which varies enormously from person to person, and even varies with what kinds of food they eat.
You people are so goddamn moronic. Nobody denies that eating less and exercising more will cause weight loss, but you morons insist that you shouldn't try to eat healthier foods or train more efficiently in order to make it a significantly more tractable process.
>insist that you shouldn't try to eat healthier foods or train more efficiently
No one on this board does any such thing. CICO chads simply acknowledge that if you don't WANT to do those things that CICO still works but progress will be slower and you'll feel like shit. 1500 kcals of Mcdo will make you feel like trash whereas 1500 of healthy, balanced diet and you'll feel great.
You're a dumbass, the calories listed on food are MAX calories from complete exothermic combustion of the food particles. If anything you absorb LESS, you don't need to compute a function of myriad anything, just assume complete absorption.
You really think you're going to get 3000 calories out of a 1500 pizza? You're a fricking idiot.
>Be me
>Consume over 3000kcal of food
>Never gain fat.
that's false, food cals use the atwater process
Calories out is easy. Weigh yourself every day and track calories every day for a month and then do linear regression on the data. I guess you're a mathlet
this dude talking about linear regressions. that is more a way to tell which variables are contributing the most.
>just gotta figure out exactly how many calories I'm absorbing
>Even if you, by some magic, can calculate the calories in part, you still have to figure out the calories out
You don't have to track calories down to the decimal, you fricking idiot. Just log each meal, don't snack, and you'll have a good idea. As for calories out, just Google a TDEE calculator. It's not an exact science, just eat less/more and be honest about how much you exercise. Then weigh yourself regularly and adjust calorie intake accordingly. It's that simple, but I guess being a 300lbs doomer is even simpler.
Why do you need an acronym, and why do you guys act like it's some kind of weight loss method, when it's literally
>If you eat less and exercise more, you'll lose weight.
Even though the above is not always true, literally everyone understands and accepts that it is almost always the typical case.
Your cult just imagines up enemies.
>Eat what you believe to be 1500cal a day for an entire month.
>Lifts stay the same
>Number on the scale goes down
It's working.
Or
>Eat what you believe to be 1500cal a day for a month.
>Lifts go up/stay the same.
>Scale goes up/stays the same.
Eat less.
Simple as.
If you count calories, you’ll end up being forced to “eat cleaner” because it’s the only way to keep calories low while not starving. But counting calories helps people like me who struggle with being aware of how much food I’m putting into my mouth. It has resulted in me making huge diet changes just so I can keep calories low.
CICO just means that energy balance is what determines weight. This is a basic tenet of physics. The advice to count calories is usually only applicable in the beginning of a diet and specifically for people who don’t have a good grasp of how much they eat. It generates diet awareness. After a few weeks or months you get to know what X calories feels like, and hopefully you have altered your diet. Then you can kind of wing it.
No one is advocating eating 2000 calories or donuts a day. You can and you will lose weight. But have fun losing muscle and tendon tissue, and feeling like fricking shit all the time.
Yeah mathematics is a cult, dumbass!
>He doesn't know about the Pythagoreans
obviously youll lose fat by simply being at a caloric deficit, the body needs to exhaust energy from somewhere
but depositing "any energy, regardless of which" as you please without any consideration for the vital functions
certain nutrients has in your body is where cico just dont make any sense
i havent argued over these points in english so it might come out wrong or im using the wrong words
but some nutrients either inhibit or enhance the effects of others in ways that makes it unnavoidable to see
the essential needs for balance in the diet for optimal health for thermic effects and hormonal properties
just like the body will experience from most commonly known variables such as lack of sleep which is
at least a point that everyone will agree with.
you will definitely be able to lose fat from the caveman mindset of "CICO" short term
but long term, your body will reach a point where itll fight back against your lack of consideration
for the best interest of the needs of your own body because you might be a very reslient at heart and mind
but youre still cruising with a god complex thinking inside of a human body.
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. I eat like a bird (only a few snacks here and there) but I still don't lose weight... while of the other hand I have friends that are built like sticks and all they do is shovel food into their mouths.
I think we really need to have these conversations about how our current view of food is harmful and just not based in reality at all
7/10. took me a second.
It’s CI and CO. Both.
CICO is the only way I can lose weight reliably. Otherwise I take too large of bites, fill my plate up too much, etc.
The energy in - energy out dictates how much cumulative energy (and mass) remains in the system. This is not debatable.
The question is how do you ensure that more of that mass is muscle and not fat. That’s where protein and weight lifting come in to play. CICO is only relevant for body weight.
Thanks for letting everyone know you have low IQ.
I enjoy a homemade pizza, burger or meatball sub where I control ingredients and portions. The real kryptonite is coke zero, love that shit
None of those things are inherently unhealthy they are just calorie dense.
Pizzas and burgers are excellent bulking foods.
>Pizzas and burgers are excellent bulking foods.
If it's amerifat food.
Italian pizza is barely 400 Kcl, burger, is less than 300 kcl.
american """pizza""" is so disgusting it's an insult to pizza
>dense greasy bread
>dripping in oil
>slathered in cheese
>saturated with fat from 2lbs of "salami" heaped ontop of it
an insult to the food
That just means it's a small pizza or burger you moronic europoor.
>burger, is less than 300 kcl
Maybe a small, plain, child's burger.
1/4th lb ground beef : 150 - 200 cal depending on the fat content
1 kaiser roll: 150-200 calories depending on the size
1 slice cheese: 80 cal
2 strips bacon: 90 cal
bbq sauce/ketchup/topping: 50 calories
You're looking at 600 calories for one good sized burger.
Pizza on tortilla wraps when I'm craving, super crispy and gets the job done. Cut your own potatoes for fries and lightly spray with oil, add rosemary or paprika, have with a Greek yogurt dip. Burgers ngl I don't eat them often cause when I do, I make those fatty.
it's impossible to be fat if you're doing High level calisthenics and sprinting on a consistent basis.
This but replace calisthenics with pretty much any form of exercise.
Yeah, most people have an appetite of roughly 2200 calories, if you're very active you won't get fat on that, but if you're sedentary you will.
where are you sprinting to
>High level calisthenics
Meaning?
I make pizza and burgers at home, but it's just occasionally, and I know the portions and calories and plan around the meals so I don't go overboard. On occasion we order pizza from a local pizzeria. The slices are high in calories for what they are size wise, so I got in the habit of ordering a very filling but low calorie menu item and then just having a slice or two of pizza so I get the taste but also feel full. I usually order a chicken pita now, it's quite filling but something like 420 calories so I eat that, wait a few minutes, and then have a couple of slices of pizza. The meal ends up as 620 calories which is a bit on the high end for me but it's not crazy and it lets me on occasion taste something I really enjoy but not be a fat frick and gorge myself on it.
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>220 calories for two slices of pizza
I'm calling bullshit
yeah ive seen up to 300 calories a slice from places like papa johns.
which, with OMAD i can still have 3 slices for dinner and cut.
Are you seriously eating three pizza slices and going "Oh boy I'm so full"
Look up Ledo pizza, they're square pizzas not typical slices, their plain cheese slice is 110 calories give or take. It's certainly not the volume of a normal slice of say New York pizza, probably about 3-4 of them would make up one.
all the time but i make them myself so they aren't full of shit
a pizza is just stuff ontop of sourdough bread and a burger is just mince beef in bread it's as bad or good as you want it to be
unless you're keto
Lets try to think about this rationally. Lets say you mostly eat a very healthy diet, for the entire week. You eat roughly the right amount of calories, but also actually good foods (because CICO isn't ALL that matters). You are getting a ton of micro-nutrients, fiber, omega 3's, and you aren't bombarding your insulin with sugars and processed carbs all the time.
THEN..., once a week, you eat a pizza. Which has, let's say, 1500kcal. But when you eat this pizza, you make sure that it roughly fits into your calories for that day, and the only others things you eat that day is some lean protein (to hit your protein without getting too many calories) and some vegetables to get some micro's and fiber. You might go over your calories a little bit that day, but it's only by a little bit, and you are eating a relatively strict diet on the other days.
Tell me honestly, by using your own common sense. What exactly do you think is going to happen? What effect is this pizza (that you eat once a week) going to have on the grand scheme of your diet/progress?
Shut up fatty
Now pls show me who is samegayging
Posting more than once isn't samegayging you fat newbie.
>What effect is this pizza (that you eat once a week) going to have on the grand scheme of your diet/progress?
The carbs will cause an insulin spike taking you out of ketosis causing you to be tired, stop burning fat, have a very short energy spike then be ruined for days.
Carbs are an addiction.
Shut up fatty
Yeah of course, if you are doing keto then eating pizza isn't such a good idea. But if you think a single insulin spike a week is going to mess up your insulin sensitivity than you have deeper lifestyle problems and you are trying to find a scapegoat as a quick fix to your problems. Keto can be a tool to target insulin sensitivity, but it shouldn't be a permanent diet, and getting a single large insulin spike a week definitely isn't supposed to mess you up. People have been getting large insulin spikes ever since the dawn of man and they started eating fruits. It is only when you get them too often AND you are a lazy fatass that it actually becomes a real problem. A ISTizen who lifts, runs and eats an overall healthy diet does not have to worry about 1 large insulin spike a week from pizza at all.
>the body only burns fat during ketosis
When will this moronation stop. I can’t take it anymore.
It'll never stop, I've been hearing this since I first tried a keto diet in the mid-90s.
People believe fake shit year after year. Just like vegangays claim you won't get diseases if you eat plant-based, and how fastgays all still believe MUH AUTOhomosexual is magical and sets their diet apart.
Every cultist who denies CICO has core tenets of bullshit they refuse to let go. And they waste years clinging to those beliefs spinning their wheels. Let the morons do as they please, it's not our problem.
I wonder if they have even tried counting calories. I have lost 15 lb of fat and gained several pounds of muscle (all compound lifts going up rapidly) despite eating 200+ grams of carbs a day, <40g of fat a day (I just prefer a low fat diet), and never being in ketosis. Yet somehow I keep losing fat. My body must be a miracle.
Based logician.
Common cattle like OP can’t use such baroque methodology as thinking things through step by step. They have to simplify (preprocess) the issue by deeming some foods either „good“ or „bad“. Etc. You know how normier think nutrition works.
In the based, the insulin spike will power their next lifts and lead to lean muscle gains, while losing fat tissue due to CICO, while in the sad and cringe it will cause them to sit on their ass and make stupid fricking posts like yours because you think your body can absorb more than 1500 calories from a 1500 calorie pizza because you were a D student in the easiest country to go to school in (USA)
>absorb calories
what is this, some shit you learned from a youtube video?
>once a week, you eat a pizza. Which has, let's say, 1500kcal
you will be absoutely fine. i eat a 1500 pizza nearly every DAY, aside from an otherwise healthy diet and im around 12% body fat. Rgds, daily pizza anon
You will be fine physically, but it could lead to binge eating/unhealthy eating habits if you do it so regularly. If you are strongly disciplined and do exactly as you said, you'll be fine. The problem is that most people aren't as so strong willed. Pizza once a week can easily turn into pizza and beer once a week. Or pizza, fries and dessert once a week. Then pizza only on the weekends. They you skip the gym the next day because you're hungover and undernourished.
I think pizza every once in a while is fine, but doing a regular "cheat" day seems like a slippery slope.
I eat pizza and burger king once a week every week.
Not to mention I eat fries like 5 or 6 times a week.
I'm 140 lbs to 6 feet height.
My previous blood tests didn't signal anything bad, except a bit high uric acid.
>140lb at 6ft
yea not listening to you
What's so unbelievable about that?
Just smoke weed everyday and have a fat metabolism like I do and you will be able to eat all the crap you want
As previously said by other anons.. those things aren't bad, they're just dense in calories. You can eat those, but you best not to frick your macros up or your calorie intake.
Most meals can have a place in diets. Pizza and burgers are great bulking meals. Also whenever you stop cutting, and get some muscle in, your calorie intake should be high enough to be able to fit those meals somewhere.
Now. Remember one thing. The bad thing about processed food like the pizzas, burgers, kebabs, etc, you buy in supermarket or fast food restaurants is that.. they're processed.
It's still ok to have them some time or another. The thing is that these foods ARE THE DIET of many people. Many people who are unhealthy af or plain fatties
>The bad thing about processed food like the pizzas, burgers, kebabs, etc
literally none of these have to be processed food beyond the fact that grinding beef to make ground beef for burgers is a "process"
it's wrong to conflate these food types with goyslop just because goyslop often takes their form
real sourdough pizza with real tomato, vegetables, meat, and cheese on it is pretty carb heavy but it's not unhealthy at all unless it's overladen with nitrates and sodium from hams and salami
OFC they dont have to be processed. That's why I said those that are bought in supermarkets, fast food restaurants, etc.
Can't you fricking read?
Homemade pizza is great and can have excellent macros. This is just as simple as solving 1+1
You can use cauliflower pizza dough, but the cheese has so many damn calories. I don't know. Only when bulking should people eat pizza.
I eat slices of cheese off a block of sharp cheddar every night before bed with my chamomile tea. It's a great snack and my dreams are off the fricking chain and very entertaining. Granted, I'm a cardiogay that's been on a bulk for 2 years now. So, maybe not all advice that I give applies to everyone. I had to fight tooth and nail to get from 170 18% BF to 225 14.6% BF where I am now.
A frozen pizza in Euroland has like 700kcal
Yeah, Im sub 12% bodyfat but I enjoy a good 'za or even McD's every once in a while.
If you gain weight in 2023 you are basically fricking stupid
You can eat whatever for a meal a day if you eat enough protein generally ,just have some chicken or low fat cheese for the other meals.
Basically a 2500kcal meal is ok if you eat like 300-400 kcal for the other meals of the day ,but you Will get fat if you do this every day.
I don't eat breakfast, only fruit/small protein for lunch which leaves me plenty of calories to eat whatever the hell I want for dinner. Been between 140-150 for years now. Mind you I'm still skinnyfat but the point is you can eat whatever as long as you're not gaining weight.
Nothing fried, the seed oil is highly toxic. Everything else is fine.
There's an authentic Italian pizza place next to my house. Once a week I'll get a large pizza and eat it for dinner / save a couple slices for breakfast the next day. As long as you aren't eating some Papa Johns "salted preserved dough, salted preserved cheese, salted preserved toppings, salted preserved sauce" level shit it's not a big deal. The thing that makes goyslop pizza so unhealthy is the amount of preservatives and filler ingredients, nothing is inherently unhealthy about dough with tomato sauce and cheese on top.
I eat fries a lot but I make them in the air fryer, I don't eat oil fried stuff. Not a big fan of other fast food. I wouldn't mind eating it at all but generally speaking I eat out of necessity and when I am hungry I love every meal, even if it's clean.
I spent most of my first 7 years lifting eating only what was good for growth and recovery
but reaching around 8-9 years, i began to realize that I felt inhuman to some degree
I forgot how things tasted and began to think back to my childhood for "taste references"
and realized how I had actually become "uncultured" within the absolute most basic sense
of being cultured with food and drink that i genuinelly felt moronic, like really autistic.
im not saying this to express myself for anyone here not to overthink about your food and dieting
but if you have no realization of what foods, sweets/treats/pastries or which makes you feel that is
the absolute most satisfying to spoil yourself or treat someone else to something nice ?
Then youre really weird, it just is..
nothing will happen if you simply eat pizza once a week but if you become a total pig eating fast foods,
sweets and pastries multiple days a week ? youre just a fatty that will get fat and healthy becaus you have the fatty mind
on the weekends, yeah.
mon-fri i keep a pretty strict, boring diet however.
I eat pizza and burgers, but pretty well only eat home-made. I rein myself in portion wise, unless I'm at my parent's and my mom has made pizza, and then I fill myself like a fricking moron because I'm a good boy with a healthy appetite.
Not often, most of my diet consists of homecooked healthy meals and i just don’t typically gravitate towards making pizza and burgers (although theres tons of healthy recipes for them out there) but if friends are going out and invite me out to eat and it’s a burger or pizza place i’m not gonna be a stick in the mud and say no. you’re allowed to indulge once in a while without repercussion as long as you’re consistent the rest of the time
You shouldn't be eating out much, but when you are, a burger is fine. Don't order the heart attack special, and if they offer grass-fed get that. Avoid fries and substitute when you can—those are almost always deep fried seed oil monstrosities. If getting a pizza, don't get one with processed meat (bacon, sausage, ham, etc.), nor those with BBQ sauce or ranch sauce. Hopefully the restaurant didn't cheap out and replace their extra virgin olive oil with a seed oil. If they didn't, a traditional pizza is not so bad aside from the white dough and excessive cheese. Ask for light cheese or thin crust when you can! In general, I find the totally stacked veggie pizza is usually the healthiest by a mile. You'll get some micronutrients that you may not have seen all week.
When cooking at home, burgers and pizzas are at most once a week items. Try not to have leftovers and end up actually having many servings over multiple days. The good thing is you can eliminate all the bad stuff when you make it yourself. Sprouted whole grain bun and grass-fed patty for the burger, and extra virgin olive oil and overall light ingredients for the pizza. In my experience it's not really worth the effort it takes to make a healthy pizza, so it's better to simply have a great pizza from a restaurant every once in a while. Burgers are really easy though.
Anyone saying you cannot ever eat "junk" food when you get fit are dyels trying to pretend to be experts. I remember seeing a video of Mayweather eating two big macs (less than 800 calories) and the comments were filled with Karens explaining that he stays lean because he's such a tremendous athlete. You don't even need to do "cardio" because aerobics only burns like 300 kcal if you go hard for over an hour everyday which no adult has time for.
The whole thing about "junk food" is just social bullshit anyway. A baked potato at home is healthy but get it at a BBQ place and it's junk food.
>A baked potato at home is healthy but get it at a BBQ place and it's junk food.
because restaurants want to make it as tasty as possible so they brush everything with oil and excessive salt
>is there any fit people here?
Very few
pastanigg3r here.
I eat pizza in pizzerias every saturday.
Here typical pizzeria dinner is:
-Farinata as entry
-A whole pizza
-wine or beer
-a dessert
-coffe-a glass of amaro
All between €25-35
pic related
>-a dessert
My favourite after-pizza dessert is this
gli italiani sono bianchi?
Idk, we don't care at all about ''race'' as you oversea people do, but if this is important to you, i'm from the Alpes, i live in a town under this:
Ah, uno italiano del nord. Basato
Yeah, tecnically from the historical french/provençal minority, even if literally nobody speak ''occitan'' anymore except for the elders and some boomer.
Parli italiano?
Si, sono un americano - ho studiato ad Arezzo per un po’
>Arezzo
My condoleences.
Tuscans are snooty and arrogant.
They have great wines, i've to admit.
Perchè Arezzo? Eri nei Marines?
Nice, real pizza is good.
I bake my own almost every week, extremely cheap and better than anything I can get in the area.
Looks very good
On a typical Sunday, I fast until after my late afternoon workout. Then I have a protein shake and eat most of a large pizza. I'm around 12% bf and have been for a very long time.
>EAT COSTCO PIZZA
>Lots of pizza
>bike a longer to burn extra calories
>don't gain weight
Fat gorilla Black folk ITT seething, malding coping, pissing and shitting their pants due to this simple fact
Take the Focaccia-Pill
>whole grain, olive oil and yeast
Even literal paid professional athletes eat fast food garbage from time to time, just don't make it a regular thing
I eat burgers once a week as a treat, but I make them myself from lean ground beef. The macros in a burger aren't that bad, honestly. I lift and run six days a week, so the occasional "bad" meal is fine.
I eat whatever I'd like as long as I don't over eat or get too little protein
fuuuuck bros
I've been craving: A cheese danish, Biscuits and Gravy, A Breakfast burrito.
How do I go about this? I ate a lot this mornign and ahve 1k left, thinking grab a danish today, eat some Biscuits and gravy tomorrow, and possibly a Burrito sunday
Drink some water and re-evaluate. Your cravings might go away.
its been since yesterday. I'm also not cutting rn
i wish i got so excited about food
i just came off a almost 2 year cut, leave me be I have to sort out the eating disorder kinks
i meant it, it's cute
th biggest joy of cooking is watching someone light up when you serve them something you put effort into
good luck with your diet goals
of course i do, why would i give up stuff i enjoy to achieve a goal? thats a shit way to live a meaningless life and then die and end up in a coffin anyway. i dont eat it all the time and 75% of my diet consists of whole healthy foods, but then again my diet was like that before i started getting involved in fitness.
anyone who thinks "bad food" is the boogeyman and is the reason for you not achieving your fitness goals needs to stop and re-evaluate WHY that "bad food" is preventing that to begin with. usually either training is shit, you eat too much period(yes you can get fat eating brown rice chicken and broccoli, surprising i know) or you dont eat enough period. or you have a health condition and at that point you will need medical intervention despite what you may want to think.
i don't know what the frick CICO is but i'm italian and i eat 200g of past EVERYDAY and on sunday a pizza. i've been doing it since i was born and never been overweight.
>but I'm Italian and i eat 200g of past EVERYDAY
Helps you cope with the loss of the imperial glory, heh?
Me too. It's just med genetics
yes i eat the goyslop
i have simply reoriented my cheat foods to be based such as quality barbecue meats and cheese
smokerchads rise UP
>mfw what got me fat was savory goodness
>never had a sweet tooth
>lost the weight
>only cheat on pastrys
you cant even make the ones I like muh anabolic too, ffs
Someone link me a Donut or Danish recipe that doesn't taste like dogshit and gives good macros. I also want a cheesecake, but the fat free cream cheese blows cheeks I havent made with 1/3
for donuts you can replace 1/3 of the flour in the dough with whey for better macros
I still eat fast food but i make it purely myself at home so i'm in control of its ingredients and macros.
>american """pizza""" is so disgusting it's an insult to pizza
greasy bread
in oil
in cheese
with fat from 2lbs of "salami" heaped ontop of it
>an insult to the food
I'm not fit, I'm fat and ugly and balding and I critique people's form without posting body
When I bulk I eat a lot of burgers. No bun, toppings or condiments, just some salt and pepper.
I'll eat pizza and fries on occasion, if I'm out with people and the food sounds/looks appetizing. I usually don't eat much of it because too much fried food makes me physically feel like shit.
I have a hard no go on fast food though. McDonald's and Burger King is not special. You can get it anywhere at any time, there is no reason to ever eat it. Make junk food special. Like a nice local pizzeria or a burger at a really nice restaurant. Those are my mental gymnastics that separates goyslop from regular food.
It’s a rare treat. Like birthdays, special events etc. and even then I eat one serving, slowly.
I never drink soda. Ever.
Home made and assembled burgers are healthy and I'm tired of pretending they aren't.
I've got about 25 lbs. to shake off to get back to visible abs again, but when I WAS looking pretty fricking good, I still ate shit food on occasion. ON OCCASION is the key term here, and also IN MODERATION.
Sure, every few months I'd get a few too many drinks in me and find myself with an empty box next to me that used to hold 6 donuts, but I tried to keep that shit to the minimum since I didn't want to stop being lean.
But, I still had a rule that as long as I was solid all week long, Friday was for fun, so drinks and whatever dinner sounded good was on the menu.
But, the most important thing to remember is that I didn't frick around UNTIL I was lean enough to be satisfied. If you keep implementing cheat days and shit on your journey to fat loss, you're never gonna make it. Be strict for months on end, loosen up for a few weeks, be strict again, but don't let weekly frick-ups ruin your progress.
Pizza, yes. American version of pizza, no.
I smoke weed and eat a pizza every payday.
As long as you exercise regularly and maintain a healthy diet it doesn't really hurt.
> Pizza
I now make home-made pizza from scratch. I have it a about once a month, usually the day before I have a long run.
>burgers
I'm cooking some right now.
>fries
Not so much. Sometimes I cut up potatoes and make baked fries.
Mostly I just cut out fast food and shit like processed snacks. Now instead of something like crackers or chips with my lunch, I'll have fresh veggies instead.
Honestly it's not that hard if you just take it slowly and make small, incremental changes. It's shit like
>I can't have pizza burgers or fries ever again
That leads to failure.
I am on a cut right now because I fricked up royally the last 6 months, once I reach my goal weight I will cheat once a week but until then pizza is off the menu.
losing weight sucks btw don't frick up like me.:-(
I used to abstain but now I eat what I want and look better than ever, I'm not a masochist anyways I always had cheat meals but now I just eat whatever.
I do socially, so maybe 1-2 meals a week I’m off my normal meal plan. It’s better to just cave and eat with friends/family then alienate them by being very strict on your diet.
give me your Pizza and Bread Recipes please
Pref Sourdough or Whole Wheat.
I can lose weight eating the shittiest goyslope. The trick? I don't eat for one or two days after doing so. Gym days to be more precise.
I eat burgers pretty often, but pizza only once every few weeks. I do big brother little brother, so I often take my mentee out for pizza since its cheaper than going to Five Guys. Fries less often, but still every once in awhile. Burgers are just bread and meat, really not that bad.
im losing a ton of weight and ive been absolutely fricking up some oven fries and homemade pizzas with that dough thats just greek yogurt and self-rising flour
ate a Costco pepperoni all by myself last thursday and I felt like shit for 2 days. I think I'm going to stop. Cheat days aren't worth it.
>he thinks burgers are bad for you