I used it regularly because I started feeling pain in my lower abdomen, and the gym attendant told me it might be a hernia. That scared the shit out of me so now I use a belt
That's a powershitter to them. There's people on this board who squat an empty bar and eat 900 calories per day for 'aesthetics' and then wonder why their legs look like extension cord. Don't mind them, they're just moronic.
if you had a hernia in your abdomen you'd see a piece of your intestines sticking out and you'd need surgery to get it fixed, it's not something that goes away on its own.
I'm not sure how true it is, but I've heard always wearing a belt will develop a more full/wider midsection. If you're trying to get extreme v-taper or want a thin waist, you should limit it to just your heavy sets. Again, I'm not sure how true this is, I wear my belt for all squat and deadlift sets after warming up.
Learn to diaphragm breathe and brace properly so you can lift naturally without relying on a gay belt. Unless you’re lifting 4pl8+, you shouldn’t need the crutch.
Sincerely, someone not lifting 4pl8+
I lift to have a strong body, not to be a power lifter, so it made no sense to make my body rely on an aid I’m not going to have when performing.
If you’re a power lifter, stop today and reassess your life. Seriously. No one wants a bloated toad who can lift kinda heavy if he had a forty minute warmup and his favorite song’s on and of his feet are completely planted and his buddy slapped him on the back and he’s yelled a lot and he’s wrapped up in 15 yards of neoprene.
Performing what? When the frick are you ever going to need to squat 400 and deadlift 500 other than in powerlifting? I have an incredibly physical job and those numbers are complete overkill.
Not him but I've had to sumo pull a 700lb toolbox up a flight of stairs. Having a good Deadlift helped with that a ton. Had one other person to help hold the bottom as I pulled though. Shit was way to bulky to sit on a single step
No, your relative strength goes up regardless. Just understand if you aren't adding 10-25lbs minimum for the same number of reps, you're not using the belt for any real gain. You have to use it to push those heavier weights or you actually lose core activation overall. It also does nothing to protect your lower back, its meant to brace your front, soft mid section. If you add 50lbs to your belted squat, you will still add 50lbs to your unbelted numbers.
An argument could be made that you reach max effort with a lighter weight and thus put less strain on your system
You should also be able to perform these movements without a belt with good form
I don't use one because I can't get the bracing or breathing right with them. I brace better without it and can't imagine using one for volume where I need to actually breathe during the set.
Whole lot of completely ignorant posts here from people who squat an empty bar. Let me hit you dipshits with some truth.
Using a belt does not make you weaker. Anyone who has suggested this is an idiot. All of the strongest people on Earth use a belt to lift and train. Every record worth mentioning in strongman, Olympic lifting and powerlifting have all been done with belts.
Using a belt is not a 'crutch' any more than getting good rest or eating healthy food is a crutch. It helps you lift more and makes you stronger over time.
Using a belt doesn't work your core any more or less. It just gives you something to push against, which helps with core stabilization. This is especially noticable on compound movements like squats, deadlifts and presses where a weak core can often be a limiting factor as weights get heavier.
Bottom line: use a belt if you like how a belt feels. Don't worry what idiots online who can't even deadlift their bodyweight think about you using one.
>belt doesn't work your core less
it is literally helping you stay upright.
crutch and all the rest is people's cope, but beltless work can be beneficial.
>another screenshot >not even the website its pulled from
go pull the conclusions of those articles and bring that back
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>sets of 5 with their 8 rep max >150kg max squat >78kg lifters >skilled lifters
fricking kek.
from what im aware, the article i cited is the only study that went heavy with people that had a high ratio (over 2x bw).
https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1990/02000/The_effectiveness_of_weight_belts_during_the_squat.19.aspx
the fact that its not even
Beltless work is absolutely beneficial. But your core will get stronger lifting heavier with a belt than lighter without one. Nobody who can squat 400kg without a belt is stronger core than someone who can squat 500kg with a belt.
Whole lot of completely ignorant posts here from people who squat an empty bar. Let me hit you dipshits with some truth.
Using a belt does not make you weaker. Anyone who has suggested this is an idiot. All of the strongest people on Earth use a belt to lift and train. Every record worth mentioning in strongman, Olympic lifting and powerlifting have all been done with belts.
Using a belt is not a 'crutch' any more than getting good rest or eating healthy food is a crutch. It helps you lift more and makes you stronger over time.
Using a belt doesn't work your core any more or less. It just gives you something to push against, which helps with core stabilization. This is especially noticable on compound movements like squats, deadlifts and presses where a weak core can often be a limiting factor as weights get heavier.
Bottom line: use a belt if you like how a belt feels. Don't worry what idiots online who can't even deadlift their bodyweight think about you using one.
The only negative I can see is that one could use it to often to lift beyond the capabilities and the more often they do that the more opportunities to hurt yourself. >IT'S CHEATING YOU NEED TO LIFT FOR YEARS BEFORE USING A BELT! >*uses a barbell that perfectly balances and distributes weight as well as a rack that holds everything a shoulder level until your ready to unrack*
No, see the belt Bible
I used it regularly because I started feeling pain in my lower abdomen, and the gym attendant told me it might be a hernia. That scared the shit out of me so now I use a belt
>powershitters
Black person I was squatting about 65kg at the time
That's a powershitter to them. There's people on this board who squat an empty bar and eat 900 calories per day for 'aesthetics' and then wonder why their legs look like extension cord. Don't mind them, they're just moronic.
>thinks he has a hernia
>thinks using a belt will help
The point of a belt is to help establish and maintain higher abdominal pressure. If you have a hernia, a belt will likely worsen it.
also
>taking medical advice from a gym attendant
you deserve a hernia for this alone
if you had a hernia in your abdomen you'd see a piece of your intestines sticking out and you'd need surgery to get it fixed, it's not something that goes away on its own.
I'm not sure how true it is, but I've heard always wearing a belt will develop a more full/wider midsection. If you're trying to get extreme v-taper or want a thin waist, you should limit it to just your heavy sets. Again, I'm not sure how true this is, I wear my belt for all squat and deadlift sets after warming up.
Learn to diaphragm breathe and brace properly so you can lift naturally without relying on a gay belt. Unless you’re lifting 4pl8+, you shouldn’t need the crutch.
Sincerely, someone not lifting 4pl8+
400 squat, 500 dl here, never used a belt.
I lift to have a strong body, not to be a power lifter, so it made no sense to make my body rely on an aid I’m not going to have when performing.
If you’re a power lifter, stop today and reassess your life. Seriously. No one wants a bloated toad who can lift kinda heavy if he had a forty minute warmup and his favorite song’s on and of his feet are completely planted and his buddy slapped him on the back and he’s yelled a lot and he’s wrapped up in 15 yards of neoprene.
I disagree, but this is a funny take on powerlifting
Performing what? When the frick are you ever going to need to squat 400 and deadlift 500 other than in powerlifting? I have an incredibly physical job and those numbers are complete overkill.
Not him but I've had to sumo pull a 700lb toolbox up a flight of stairs. Having a good Deadlift helped with that a ton. Had one other person to help hold the bottom as I pulled though. Shit was way to bulky to sit on a single step
No, your relative strength goes up regardless. Just understand if you aren't adding 10-25lbs minimum for the same number of reps, you're not using the belt for any real gain. You have to use it to push those heavier weights or you actually lose core activation overall. It also does nothing to protect your lower back, its meant to brace your front, soft mid section. If you add 50lbs to your belted squat, you will still add 50lbs to your unbelted numbers.
i should start wearing them. lack of concentration leads to injury after 3pl.
An argument could be made that you reach max effort with a lighter weight and thus put less strain on your system
You should also be able to perform these movements without a belt with good form
I don't use one because I can't get the bracing or breathing right with them. I brace better without it and can't imagine using one for volume where I need to actually breathe during the set.
Don't wear it so tight. You should be able to breathe in it, it should only become tight when you flex/brace your core.
Beltless works your core and errectors more. harder, so can uses it like a deload movement
no, it's the other way around, with a belt your abs have something to push against so they work harder.
this is why you can lift more with a belt.
>belt doesn't work your core less
it is literally helping you stay upright.
crutch and all the rest is people's cope, but beltless work can be beneficial.
>let me prove the peer-reviewed paper with this screenshot i just took off bb.com
Here's the studies
>another screenshot
>not even the website its pulled from
go pull the conclusions of those articles and bring that back
>sets of 5 with their 8 rep max
>150kg max squat
>78kg lifters
>skilled lifters
fricking kek.
from what im aware, the article i cited is the only study that went heavy with people that had a high ratio (over 2x bw).
https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/1990/02000/The_effectiveness_of_weight_belts_during_the_squat.19.aspx
the fact that its not even
Beltless work is absolutely beneficial. But your core will get stronger lifting heavier with a belt than lighter without one. Nobody who can squat 400kg without a belt is stronger core than someone who can squat 500kg with a belt.
Whole lot of completely ignorant posts here from people who squat an empty bar. Let me hit you dipshits with some truth.
Using a belt does not make you weaker. Anyone who has suggested this is an idiot. All of the strongest people on Earth use a belt to lift and train. Every record worth mentioning in strongman, Olympic lifting and powerlifting have all been done with belts.
Using a belt is not a 'crutch' any more than getting good rest or eating healthy food is a crutch. It helps you lift more and makes you stronger over time.
Using a belt doesn't work your core any more or less. It just gives you something to push against, which helps with core stabilization. This is especially noticable on compound movements like squats, deadlifts and presses where a weak core can often be a limiting factor as weights get heavier.
Bottom line: use a belt if you like how a belt feels. Don't worry what idiots online who can't even deadlift their bodyweight think about you using one.
Hear hear. If it helps you lift better, use it.
Personally, I get my best lifts done with a forklift.
1. It's cheating just like lowbar and "parallel squats"
2. It's gay and costly metrosexual consumerism
I don't give a frick powershitter
The only negative I can see is that one could use it to often to lift beyond the capabilities and the more often they do that the more opportunities to hurt yourself.
>IT'S CHEATING YOU NEED TO LIFT FOR YEARS BEFORE USING A BELT!
>*uses a barbell that perfectly balances and distributes weight as well as a rack that holds everything a shoulder level until your ready to unrack*
If you're doing warm-ups