If you care about strength, the guy in OP can beat the shit out of the tublord. If you care about aesthetics, the guy in OP can at least fit in a shirt without his gut hanging out.
What about not dying under a 140kg bench? Who tf wanna train to have the arm size of a 17yo make up wearing tiktok eboy? I train for aesthetics not strength but even I would rather kill myself than look like the guy OP posted
Also, if you wanna compare strength, look at Thor playing with Connor in a fight. A guy 40kg heavier would play with that dude like a damn barbie doll
1 year ago
Anonymous
Neither of them are fighting you prick. Royce Gracey KO'd >300lbs Sumos witb a punch and a kick to the face. I'd believe Jon Jones, Piera, Kamaru Usman would be able to beat up Eddie Hall or Bjornson.
1 year ago
Anonymous
anyone that can kick out their legs can beat them
1 year ago
Anonymous
>300lbs Sumos
Sumos aren't that strong, I think tbh. They are at a way higher bodyfat than people like Thor or Eddie >Neither of them are fighting you prick
Yeah, risking injury for some stupid playfight would be moronic for both of them. But you can see that whenever Thor grabs Connor, he can do anything he wants with him until he let him go. Size is a huge factor that you can't ignore. I say this as someone who very much enjoy wrestling. I have a huge friend who doesn't even train and still is a big threat just because of his size
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thats because you train wrestling. Join a jiu jitsu gym and youll be quickly humbled by someone a third of your size.
Even big guys like eddie hall have EXTREMELY vulnerable joints and their lack of flexibility will work against them. Jon jones could submit thor or eddie hall i have no doubt
1 year ago
Anonymous
>jiu jitsu gym and youll be quickly humbled by someone a third of your size.
Only because jiu jitsu bans every move that counters it you tard. Let's see what happens in real life when you try to power hug some dude like that. Oh that's right. He downward elbows you in the fricking head and the fight is over.
1 year ago
Anonymous
a no holds barred jiu jitsu master wouldnt just choke you out faster with no rules
You do realize in a no rules fight, the MMA expert will still be an expert right?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not if the guy he's fighting against is twice his size. Weight classes exist for a reason kek. In the real world if your manlet ass tried to hug a 6'8 roided bear he would just elbow you in the skull and you'd die bro kek
1 year ago
Anonymous
Why do you keep saying hugging lol
>kick leg >fat moron on the ground >armbar >dislocate arm
Or
>rear naked choke >baby goes to sleep
1 year ago
Anonymous
Powersharters are free to compete in the super heavyweight division. No limits, get as big as you want.
Why don't they?
1 year ago
Anonymous
because theyd lose?
but if they could compete in the lightweight division, theyd win
and thats what an irl fight is
1 year ago
Anonymous
Weight matters but weight classes exist because youre trying to make the fight as equal as possible amongst two trained fighters, skill makes up for some weight difference, but then you guys bring up "yeah well what if the 60kg guy fought 260kg 6'8 hafthor? Its the dumbest shit i have ever heard
You can powershart all you want but why do you feel the need to act like it means something besides powersharting by bringing up irrelevant extremes?
Also an average sized powersharter who doesnt train any mma would get obliterated by any ufc lightweight in the first round
1 year ago
Anonymous
Jiu jitsu is gay and you roll around in other peoples filth that smell like shit and absorb their filth into your skin and they reek of musk and ammonia. Plus not to mention all the scabs and hair on the mats and flesh eating diseases. But enjoy absorbing middle aged men butthole sweat and fecal matter on your wiener when they sit on you from top mount. Teach a world level powershitter some wrestling and how to defend bjj won’t do shit. Bjj morons need to get "humbled" and drop the ego from their homosexual dry humping sport.
>poor little OP can't even bench 335kg with full ROM
See where this is going?
He can do more pull ups than you can too
Lol and, I can't stress this enough, lmao
whaddaya mean?
a kick to side of the head can knock anyone down?
If someone is large just judo throw their face to the curb and they die. since you are smaller, you are also faster.
Plus your soft water-filled creatine muscles inflate your weight. MMA fighters have dense, but highly explosive functional muscles.
Look at pic related's legs. He deadlifts 585 lbs and can shatter your entire knee with one oblique kick. Dense, functional muscles. With a big heap of PEDs
>they get weighed on fight night you moron.
Yes, I'm familiar with weight cutting. They maybe fight at 15 lbs heavier than their fight weight. The Hispanic fights at 185 meaning he is maybe 200, which is what he looks like.
>He deadlifts 585
Loooool no he sure as frick does not.
There's one video where he was blasting roids and it was very obvious and he BOX PULLED not deadlifted. I'd fricking "deadlift" 585 right now from my PB of 475 if I could get a 10 inch head start with boxes
Lol. They are professional athletes fighting in a specific weight class. They are weighed in the day before the fight publicly on a live stream. Yes, he is in fact 220 in that picture.
Yes he is you moron. They all use IV drips to rehydrate supranaturally, which is legal to an amount, but its next to impossible to prove that you're doing more than the legal amount.
Khabib weighs in an 185lbs on fight night for example. His weight class is 155.
"It’s not really a secret: Khabib himself, as well as his father and coach Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, openly talk about his weight. During time-off, Khabib weighs about 85 kg (187 lbs). Then, in the training camp, as he is preparing for the fight, he weighs between 79.5 kg – 81 kg (79.5 kg or 175 pounds is the optimal weight for Khabib according to his father).
About a week from weigh-ins he starts to cut weight: down to 78 kg (172 lbs) 6 days before weigh-ins, then down to 76.5 kg (168 lbs) 5 days before and etc. until he is at 70.45 kg (155 lbs) for weigh-ins. Nurmagomedov and most MMA fighters say that the last few pounds are always the hardest to lose."
Again, you're moronic for thinking anyone can cut 35 lbs for a fight, which is entirely different than coming into training camp 35 over.
Khabib weighed 176 lbs against Gaethje in the cage and he described that as a perfect cut, but you, being an absolute moron talking out your ass, are insisting he was a full 10 lbs heavier? Get a grip dude
1 year ago
Anonymous
Khabib's teammate literally just outright says how much he weights you moron
and heres khabib weighing himself on fight night and he's >180 lbs
https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
You have severe mental moronation going. In spite of the valid evidence given you are instead choosing to die on a moronic hill.
Khabib literally weighs himself right there in that video.
Are you this fricking moronic?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/ >2013
They banned the IV in 2015 but nice try. His own words are that 21 lbs was a perfect cut, but you think there are fighters in MW cutting 35 lbs still? Pereira weighted in at 211 to fight Izzy, you silly silly boy. Done with this pointless argument
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They banned the IV in 2015 but nice try.
They didnt ban IV, they lessened the amount you can do (depending on the athletic commission).
But heres the thing: Whether you IV'd 250mg or 2 lbs literally no one can tell.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Pereira weighted in at 211 to fight Izzy, you silly silly boy. Done with this pointless argument
Heres Pereira beside light heavyweight Dominic Reyes (the guy who arguably beat jon jones)
There is no doubt in my mind that Pereira was 210 lbs on fight night with izzy
1 year ago
Anonymous
>There is no doubt in my mind that Pereira was 210 lbs on fight night with izzy
Right and there's the guy trying to claim he was 200 lmao
15-20 lbs is the average for fighters. Meaning, some fighters are cutting more weight. Pereira weighed in at 210 vs izzy. Confirmed by his camp.
Yes he is you moron. They all use IV drips to rehydrate supranaturally, which is legal to an amount, but its next to impossible to prove that you're doing more than the legal amount.
Khabib weighs in an 185lbs on fight night for example. His weight class is 155.
You're a moron. Stop talking.
Nah you're a fricking spastic mate.
"It’s not really a secret: Khabib himself, as well as his father and coach Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, openly talk about his weight. During time-off, Khabib weighs about 85 kg (187 lbs). Then, in the training camp, as he is preparing for the fight, he weighs between 79.5 kg – 81 kg (79.5 kg or 175 pounds is the optimal weight for Khabib according to his father).
About a week from weigh-ins he starts to cut weight: down to 78 kg (172 lbs) 6 days before weigh-ins, then down to 76.5 kg (168 lbs) 5 days before and etc. until he is at 70.45 kg (155 lbs) for weigh-ins. Nurmagomedov and most MMA fighters say that the last few pounds are always the hardest to lose."
Again, you're moronic for thinking anyone can cut 35 lbs for a fight, which is entirely different than coming into training camp 35 over.
This
I wonder how much of this is to psych out opponents
I remember hearing for years about how Anderson Silva would fight at like 220 or whatever. Then one day he took a short notice fight at light heavy and showed up as a chubby 198
I am pretty good at guessing guys' heights and weights and a lot of these guys really don't look as big as they claim
It'd absolute bs. People like the moron in this thread believe Khabib and fricking Max Holloway weigh 200lbs off season.
Fighters who are truthful about their weights are Robert Whitakker(185), who wrestled on the Aussie team at 215lbs, Israel Adesanya (185) managed a fluffy 201lbs for light heavyweight and Conor McGregor (155) would stay fit at 175lbs max, until his recent bulking.
Baffling that people think Ortega really got to 185lbs and the buffed up midget Tyron Woodley was 205lbs and cutting down to 170lbs.
Boxing seems much more devoid of this bullshittery, but mma places such high value on it, I believe a carry over from USA wrestling and their extreme weight cutting for believed strength-weight ratio gained.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you have legitimate mental illness.
The fighters get weighed on fight night. You can find videos on them on instagram and twitter being weighed hours before a fight.
That you're even denying this video's existence:
https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
Tells me you are a delusional autistic moron with poor theory of mind. Look at what you've written. None of it makes sense, its just moronic autistic gibberish.
I will repeat this; THE FIGHTERS GET WEIGHED ON FIGHT NIGHT AND IT IS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA
Fricking low IQ mongoloid. have a nice day already moron
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't use instagram and it's easy to fake that shit.
It's deception and you're too low iq to realise it. How is having actual evidence, like Whitakkers recorded weight by a governing body in wrestling being 215lbs in off season, before competing at 185lbs "gibberish"?
Why is it boxing isn't plagued by this homosexualry? MMA is legitimately for A-tier spastics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Do you think wrestlers don't cut weight or something?
1 year ago
Anonymous
I literally said mma cutting is a leftover from wrestling. I don't believe whittaker has to cut to make 215lbs, then further to make 185lbs. Fighters like gastelum who are fat and lazy do, but not people who keep in a decent shape.
1 year ago
Anonymous
fighters get weighed the day before the fight you fricking mong
1 year ago
Anonymous
The day before is the official weigh in but I believe they also get weighed the fight night, not for making weight though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah the ceremonial weigh ins are just that, ceremonial. it has NO impact on the official weight of the fighters
1 year ago
Anonymous
They're called ceremonial weigh ins and are done to show the fighters one last time to the people attending before the fights start, actual weigh ins are done 36 hours before the fights happen
1 year ago
Anonymous
When people talk about off season weight they actually mean they get fat when not in camp. Timothy Bradley and Adrian Broner were known to blow up in weight between fights. Jermall Charlo fights at 160 but has been out of the ring for a long time and a recent picture shows him looking every bit 190+ while standing next to his twin brother.
Have you seen Naseem Hamed or Ricky Hatton lately?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Naseem hamed and Hatton are retired though, I'm talking about guys who are active like Crawford, Canelo, Bivol, Loma, Mayweather when he was fighting etc.
1 year ago
Anonymous
athletes get fat as frick out of competition time
1 year ago
Anonymous
30lb cut only applies to middleweight and LHW, and only select fighters, but its possible. >Boxing seems much more devoid of this bullshittery
Because boxing is standup only, with no throws. You don't need to be way stronger than the other guy to outbox him
1 year ago
Anonymous
In boxing there are weight classes ever 2.5 pounds, in MMA 10-15 pounds is absolutely massive, also fighters generally have binge-eating problems due to cutting weight and eating very strict so they blow up outside fight camp.
"It’s not really a secret: Khabib himself, as well as his father and coach Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, openly talk about his weight. During time-off, Khabib weighs about 85 kg (187 lbs). Then, in the training camp, as he is preparing for the fight, he weighs between 79.5 kg – 81 kg (79.5 kg or 175 pounds is the optimal weight for Khabib according to his father).
About a week from weigh-ins he starts to cut weight: down to 78 kg (172 lbs) 6 days before weigh-ins, then down to 76.5 kg (168 lbs) 5 days before and etc. until he is at 70.45 kg (155 lbs) for weigh-ins. Nurmagomedov and most MMA fighters say that the last few pounds are always the hardest to lose."
Again, you're moronic for thinking anyone can cut 35 lbs for a fight, which is entirely different than coming into training camp 35 over.
Regardless of who is right this shit is all so moronic and gay
They should just do weighins after the fight. What the frick does metagaming dehydrating yourself have to do with who is the better fighter. Putting aside the health risks it's still completely moronic
Josh Thomson's brain is fricking heemed if you listen to him speak for two minutes. This bullshitter was saying Khabib was definitely retiring after the McGregor fight
1 year ago
Anonymous
He was off by two fights. He's not bullshitting though, khabib gets weighed on fight night and his weight has varied from 170 lbs to 185 lbs
this whole thing is moronic
they should weigh them right when the fight starts, if your cut leaves you feeling too shit to fight you don't belong at that weight class
Wrong, because guns exist being able to move heavy things continuously is infinity more useful and impressive.
You might as well as be bragging about being able to murder someone in pokemon, which is just as detached from the real world as sport fighting.
>they can...le beat you up!
Why are martialBlack folk like this? No they can't, I carry folding knife. What are you gonna do, grapple my highly aesthetic body in some gay bjj position? Fricking morons nobody is impressed with your monke cage fights in 2k23, you've been irrelevant since Bronze Age
Almost always those fughters get killed in real streat fights. There is no rules in a real street fight. They think they know what they are doing, but a guy with experience will stab them 20 times before they realize what's happening
I wonder how much of this is to psych out opponents
I remember hearing for years about how Anderson Silva would fight at like 220 or whatever. Then one day he took a short notice fight at light heavy and showed up as a chubby 198
I am pretty good at guessing guys' heights and weights and a lot of these guys really don't look as big as they claim
Its all the weight cuts. I wish the weight categories were wider and fighters instead got incentives for staying at the target weight through the year.
Fighters look dyel because the trade off between muscle mass and execution speed favours the latter in terms of performance . The power output is generated by the rotation of the body, transmitting power to the fist like a motor to the drive shaft , so the few added pounds of shoulder mass that power shitters have would do nothing more than slow you down, decreasing overall power delivery and the momentum of the punch
This isn't true. Fighters look dyel because they are trying to fight at lower weight classes so they have a size advantage. Weight classes existing at all because muscle mass makes a big difference in fighting.
Boxing, wrestling and MMA (all things with weight classes) require you to maximize your frame size. You have to have enough muscle mass to fight, but not so much you are competing against fighters that across the board are much taller and rangey than you.
So muscle mass generally works against you in combat sports after a certain point.
I'm 5'10 and 180lbs. If I lost 10lbs and fought at Welterweight (170) I would be fighting guys almost across the board that are 6' or taller that would have me beat in range easily. It's not impossible, but it would be a hard frickin road.
At my frame, I would be better off dropping some muscle and fighting at featherweight (145lbs) which means I'd be walking in the ring at 160 or so.
>muscle mass works against you in combat sports
Only because of weight classes.
Everyone knows the biggest, most muscular fighters (heavyweights) would dominate lightweights, regardless of the skill gap.
What if you powerlift in a low weight class and also fight?
If you are stronger and more athletic in a fight, you will win if the skill gap isn't big.
Issue with powerlifting is it can make your legs too big, just look at the best fighters:
Tyson Fury, Jon Jones, etc.
They have very slender legs, overly thick legs will slow you down.
Of course, the early UFC tournaments had no weight classes and the first few were won by a skinny guy with little to no discernible muscle mass. He beat Dan Severin, a huge guy with tons of muscle.
If you watch current UFC you can see example after example of a fighter with too much muscle mass for his frame tiring out after 1 round at most while the taller, leaner fighter proceeds to heem the everloving shit out of him.
You're so low IQ you dont even realize you're asking a whole different question than what you originally said
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Everyone knows the biggest, most muscular fighters (heavyweights) would dominate lightweights, regardless of the skill gap. >So do you think Conor McGregor (156 lbs) could beat Francis Ngannou (250 lbs)?
>You're so low iq >you're asking a whole different question than what you originally said
A 120kg fighter will hit roughly as hard as a 200kg guy except much faster and could actually do it for a round rather than twice before gassing out
Going above a certain weight is simply not practical
Is this supposed to disprove what I said? Actually looking at it, it seems that height isn't considered at all, and obviously the taller you are the more muscle mass you have. The steep decline in old age for Hispanic men is interesting but could be explained by older generations being poorer and malnourished. It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
>It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
Massive swathes of africa are still living like stone age people. All they do all day is lift heavy rocks, carry home heavy animals, sleep all day, then do it all again the next day. They basically exercise everyday vs your average soft urban office dweller
That guy is like 5'5 and lean
Always the upward angle with these "epic jacked African specimens" that get posted
Guys like Ngannou are rare where they're tall and jacked. If you took a 5'5 American and had them do the same work and eat the same starvation diet they would look the same as long as you slap a bunch of dark spray tan on them to give their definition the same pop.
1 year ago
Anonymous
nope, like 6'3. Look at francis ngannou - a cameroonian miner turned UFC fighter.
In the same way whites are more high test than asians, africans are more high test than whites.
Its been tested. Shut the frick up and just admit some people are better than you when it comes to genetics
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hahaha yeah right
Look at that guys head! It's fricking huge and he doesn't even have hair on top of it, just a buzzcut. Building muscle is supposed to make your head look smaller compared to your body, not the other way around. Look at his short ass arms and torso, 5'5 is generous with that guy. Tiny frame, high hips. Frank Zane pic related is like 5'8 and his head looks way smaller compared to his body, so imagine how short that guy is.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You have to have a severe genetic defect to have a head that size at 6'3
>It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
https://i.imgur.com/1FWIzYz.jpg
>It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
Massive swathes of africa are still living like stone age people. All they do all day is lift heavy rocks, carry home heavy animals, sleep all day, then do it all again the next day. They basically exercise everyday vs your average soft urban office dweller
Whites are actively discouraged from playing sports while Black folk are shoehorned into athletics. Guess which population is more muscular?
>Whites are actively discouraged from playing sports
where you homeschooled luddite? wtf every school I've ever been to if you were white and didn't do sports or at least exercise in your free time you were called a doughboy or shit like that. Post one non-twitter picture showing white discouragement from sports or you are a homosexual. This is the equivalent of thinking southerners were moronic puritans because some moms tried to get Harry Potter banned. have a nice day for being feeble enough to get psy op'd by israelites.
>having enough money to eat well
they end up eating garbage >blacks don't have enough to eat well
if you mean in places like USA that's untrue. if they don't make enough, they just sell drugs/steal and or get money from the government
It was always my goal type of physique when I got into lifting. I think it's better in most cases to 'not look like you lift' to normies. Just look like someone who is fit and athletic and has good natural genetics. When you get to the point where you obviously 'look like you lift' to clueless normies you're at a very unnatural and weird appearance. And you look like you're trying hard and compensating. Remember, you should downplay your success to make it look easy and natural.
You guys are so moronic, pereira is like 6'5, of course he's gonna weigh 220 minimum with those muscles as an athlete. These newbies are so fricking moronic about weight. My friend who's 6'5 with little muscle and is skinnyfat weighs 220 and muscle weighs more than fat.
I've weighed close to 200 on bulks and if I had to for a job like UFC I could definitely cut to 155. I cut to 135 before from 165 and I was a lot leaner at 165 than I am now at 185.
Boxing, wrestling and MMA (all things with weight classes) require you to maximize your frame size. You have to have enough muscle mass to fight, but not so much you are competing against fighters that across the board are much taller and rangey than you.
So muscle mass generally works against you in combat sports after a certain point.
I'm 5'10 and 180lbs. If I lost 10lbs and fought at Welterweight (170) I would be fighting guys almost across the board that are 6' or taller that would have me beat in range easily. It's not impossible, but it would be a hard frickin road.
At my frame, I would be better off dropping some muscle and fighting at featherweight (145lbs) which means I'd be walking in the ring at 160 or so.
A lot of fighters don't like weight training. Jon Jones gets talked about all the time because he incorporates powerlifting into his training. Compared to how much he weighs, his lifts are mid when compared to even an average powerlifter. But compared to basically every other fighter, he might as well be the hulk. If these dudes lifted weights they'd stop looking like skinny fat DYELs.
Yeah, fatasses. I literally don't care about skinny or dyel or whatever the frick nu-IST thinks is the best body. If you're not obese, your body is fine.
I don't know anything about fighting.
Is it always preferable to cut weight to be in a lower class?
How is it decided? Does a trainer look at you and decide what is best?
I mean, if you're at your 'best self' at the upper end of a weight class, does a guy who cuts to come down to that weight class really have it over you?
A powerlifter's physique.
sure thing
The fighter in OP looks less disgusting, yeah.
What a homosexual answer. Bro is scared of muscles lmao
If you care about strength, the guy in OP can beat the shit out of the tublord. If you care about aesthetics, the guy in OP can at least fit in a shirt without his gut hanging out.
What about not dying under a 140kg bench? Who tf wanna train to have the arm size of a 17yo make up wearing tiktok eboy? I train for aesthetics not strength but even I would rather kill myself than look like the guy OP posted
post body
Also, if you wanna compare strength, look at Thor playing with Connor in a fight. A guy 40kg heavier would play with that dude like a damn barbie doll
Neither of them are fighting you prick. Royce Gracey KO'd >300lbs Sumos witb a punch and a kick to the face. I'd believe Jon Jones, Piera, Kamaru Usman would be able to beat up Eddie Hall or Bjornson.
anyone that can kick out their legs can beat them
>300lbs Sumos
Sumos aren't that strong, I think tbh. They are at a way higher bodyfat than people like Thor or Eddie
>Neither of them are fighting you prick
Yeah, risking injury for some stupid playfight would be moronic for both of them. But you can see that whenever Thor grabs Connor, he can do anything he wants with him until he let him go. Size is a huge factor that you can't ignore. I say this as someone who very much enjoy wrestling. I have a huge friend who doesn't even train and still is a big threat just because of his size
Thats because you train wrestling. Join a jiu jitsu gym and youll be quickly humbled by someone a third of your size.
Even big guys like eddie hall have EXTREMELY vulnerable joints and their lack of flexibility will work against them. Jon jones could submit thor or eddie hall i have no doubt
>jiu jitsu gym and youll be quickly humbled by someone a third of your size.
Only because jiu jitsu bans every move that counters it you tard. Let's see what happens in real life when you try to power hug some dude like that. Oh that's right. He downward elbows you in the fricking head and the fight is over.
a no holds barred jiu jitsu master wouldnt just choke you out faster with no rules
You do realize in a no rules fight, the MMA expert will still be an expert right?
Not if the guy he's fighting against is twice his size. Weight classes exist for a reason kek. In the real world if your manlet ass tried to hug a 6'8 roided bear he would just elbow you in the skull and you'd die bro kek
Why do you keep saying hugging lol
>kick leg
>fat moron on the ground
>armbar
>dislocate arm
Or
>rear naked choke
>baby goes to sleep
Powersharters are free to compete in the super heavyweight division. No limits, get as big as you want.
Why don't they?
because theyd lose?
but if they could compete in the lightweight division, theyd win
and thats what an irl fight is
Weight matters but weight classes exist because youre trying to make the fight as equal as possible amongst two trained fighters, skill makes up for some weight difference, but then you guys bring up "yeah well what if the 60kg guy fought 260kg 6'8 hafthor? Its the dumbest shit i have ever heard
You can powershart all you want but why do you feel the need to act like it means something besides powersharting by bringing up irrelevant extremes?
Also an average sized powersharter who doesnt train any mma would get obliterated by any ufc lightweight in the first round
Jiu jitsu is gay and you roll around in other peoples filth that smell like shit and absorb their filth into your skin and they reek of musk and ammonia. Plus not to mention all the scabs and hair on the mats and flesh eating diseases. But enjoy absorbing middle aged men butthole sweat and fecal matter on your wiener when they sit on you from top mount. Teach a world level powershitter some wrestling and how to defend bjj won’t do shit. Bjj morons need to get "humbled" and drop the ego from their homosexual dry humping sport.
Thor got humbled by Gordon
>If you care about strength, then <something that has very little to do with strength>
You went to a special school didn't you
>cant do a pullup
>cant even wipe his own ass
kek
>can impregnate you even though you have no womb
?t=24
he can do 12. can you?
>poor little OP can't even bench 335kg with full ROM
See where this is going?
He can do more pull ups than you can too
Lol and, I can't stress this enough, lmao
Who would win? Would his weight outscale his lack of fighting skills?
If you have 50+lbs on someone and even the most basic fighting skill you win automatically
whaddaya mean?
a kick to side of the head can knock anyone down?
If someone is large just judo throw their face to the curb and they die. since you are smaller, you are also faster.
Not really, you can put it to test in any martial arts gym, any competent athlete can beat your ass if your skills are basic
That guy would get smoked by both guys in the OP and any competent grappler of any size
That's just ugly.
Only gay men find this attractive. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
does wanting to have sex with a bald, fat, greasy powerlifter who looks like they're 45 make one a pedophile???
essentially
Only gay men find other men attractive by definition. I'm not attracted to it, I want to look like that
Pereira is a champion kickboxer and UFC champion as well. He's 6'4 and walks around at 230 lbs. He absolutely rapes the any bloated powershitter.
Case in point
Lol
Only top tier 1% competitive powerlifters look like that
The average powerlifter is a fat mess with 1.5x bw bench
I have both
what does it mean ? 4*8 at 85% 1RM ?
Fippity bippity
Just go up in weight class until you reach your goal weight.
let's see OPs physique
either of those people could murder you, i think that's a bigger mog than (possibly) lifting heavier weights.
Pereira is 220 lbs on fight night. Offseason and training probably 250 lbs. Theres a good chance he lifts heavier than you too
That thing is not 220 lbs let alone 250
they get weighed on fight night you moron.
Plus your soft water-filled creatine muscles inflate your weight. MMA fighters have dense, but highly explosive functional muscles.
Look at pic related's legs. He deadlifts 585 lbs and can shatter your entire knee with one oblique kick. Dense, functional muscles. With a big heap of PEDs
>they get weighed on fight night you moron.
Yes, I'm familiar with weight cutting. They maybe fight at 15 lbs heavier than their fight weight. The Hispanic fights at 185 meaning he is maybe 200, which is what he looks like.
15-20 lbs is the average for fighters. Meaning, some fighters are cutting more weight. Pereira weighed in at 210 vs izzy. Confirmed by his camp.
>Plus your soft water-filled creatine muscles inflate your weight. MMA fighters have dense, but highly explosive functional muscles.
Post body
nah you first Black person. You're the one criticizing world class athlete physiques
This was my only post and I asked it first, skinny b***h
They weigh in the morning before.
>He deadlifts 585
Loooool no he sure as frick does not.
There's one video where he was blasting roids and it was very obvious and he BOX PULLED not deadlifted. I'd fricking "deadlift" 585 right now from my PB of 475 if I could get a 10 inch head start with boxes
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wrecked
Yo where the dick at?
They have the official weight in on Friday morning before the Saturday fights and they have 36 hours to rehydrate and eat.
Weight cutters will usually be 15-25lbs heavier when they walk in the ring.
They weigh themselves a few hours leading into the fight too you moron holy FRICKING SHIT
theres the official weigh ins, and they can weigh themselves at any time after that too
fricking morons man
What is your point? A person can weigh themselves whenever the hell they want to, has nothing to do with the weight class they compete in.
You said:
>they get weighed
Are you this stupid, seriously?
>can shatter your entire kne-
pulls out gun
*ACK!
you do realize jon jones has more gun training than you do right?
Lol. They are professional athletes fighting in a specific weight class. They are weighed in the day before the fight publicly on a live stream. Yes, he is in fact 220 in that picture.
Lol good job posting your hot take without reading any of the thread. Yes, you are gay.
Poatan is 6'5"
How do I know you are manlet?
I'm literally the same size as him that's how I know it's bullshit
He's not cutting and rehydrating 35 lbs in 24 hrs you absolute moron
Yes he is you moron. They all use IV drips to rehydrate supranaturally, which is legal to an amount, but its next to impossible to prove that you're doing more than the legal amount.
Khabib weighs in an 185lbs on fight night for example. His weight class is 155.
You're a moron. Stop talking.
>Khabib weighs in an 185lbs on fight night
Source?
https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
his fricking instagram
"It’s not really a secret: Khabib himself, as well as his father and coach Abdulmanap Nurmagomedov, openly talk about his weight. During time-off, Khabib weighs about 85 kg (187 lbs). Then, in the training camp, as he is preparing for the fight, he weighs between 79.5 kg – 81 kg (79.5 kg or 175 pounds is the optimal weight for Khabib according to his father).
About a week from weigh-ins he starts to cut weight: down to 78 kg (172 lbs) 6 days before weigh-ins, then down to 76.5 kg (168 lbs) 5 days before and etc. until he is at 70.45 kg (155 lbs) for weigh-ins. Nurmagomedov and most MMA fighters say that the last few pounds are always the hardest to lose."
Again, you're moronic for thinking anyone can cut 35 lbs for a fight, which is entirely different than coming into training camp 35 over.
a random post from a literal who
are you moronic? Is this your scientific method?
They get weighed in on fight night after being IV'd. 30 lbs is VERY doable on IV and PEDs
You are a massive moron. Please just have a nice day.
Khabib weighed 176 lbs against Gaethje in the cage and he described that as a perfect cut, but you, being an absolute moron talking out your ass, are insisting he was a full 10 lbs heavier? Get a grip dude
Khabib's teammate literally just outright says how much he weights you moron
and heres khabib weighing himself on fight night and he's >180 lbs
https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
You have severe mental moronation going. In spite of the valid evidence given you are instead choosing to die on a moronic hill.
Khabib literally weighs himself right there in that video.
Are you this fricking moronic?
>https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
>2013
They banned the IV in 2015 but nice try. His own words are that 21 lbs was a perfect cut, but you think there are fighters in MW cutting 35 lbs still? Pereira weighted in at 211 to fight Izzy, you silly silly boy. Done with this pointless argument
>They banned the IV in 2015 but nice try.
They didnt ban IV, they lessened the amount you can do (depending on the athletic commission).
But heres the thing: Whether you IV'd 250mg or 2 lbs literally no one can tell.
>Pereira weighted in at 211 to fight Izzy, you silly silly boy. Done with this pointless argument
Heres Pereira beside light heavyweight Dominic Reyes (the guy who arguably beat jon jones)
There is no doubt in my mind that Pereira was 210 lbs on fight night with izzy
>There is no doubt in my mind that Pereira was 210 lbs on fight night with izzy
Right and there's the guy trying to claim he was 200 lmao
He's way fluffier here than when he's fighting.
Nah you're a fricking spastic mate.
This
It'd absolute bs. People like the moron in this thread believe Khabib and fricking Max Holloway weigh 200lbs off season.
Fighters who are truthful about their weights are Robert Whitakker(185), who wrestled on the Aussie team at 215lbs, Israel Adesanya (185) managed a fluffy 201lbs for light heavyweight and Conor McGregor (155) would stay fit at 175lbs max, until his recent bulking.
Baffling that people think Ortega really got to 185lbs and the buffed up midget Tyron Woodley was 205lbs and cutting down to 170lbs.
Boxing seems much more devoid of this bullshittery, but mma places such high value on it, I believe a carry over from USA wrestling and their extreme weight cutting for believed strength-weight ratio gained.
Holy shit you have legitimate mental illness.
The fighters get weighed on fight night. You can find videos on them on instagram and twitter being weighed hours before a fight.
That you're even denying this video's existence:
https://www.instagram.com/p/ejZAY2v9xo/
Tells me you are a delusional autistic moron with poor theory of mind. Look at what you've written. None of it makes sense, its just moronic autistic gibberish.
I will repeat this; THE FIGHTERS GET WEIGHED ON FIGHT NIGHT AND IT IS POSTED ON SOCIAL MEDIA
Fricking low IQ mongoloid. have a nice day already moron
I don't use instagram and it's easy to fake that shit.
It's deception and you're too low iq to realise it. How is having actual evidence, like Whitakkers recorded weight by a governing body in wrestling being 215lbs in off season, before competing at 185lbs "gibberish"?
Why is it boxing isn't plagued by this homosexualry? MMA is legitimately for A-tier spastics.
Do you think wrestlers don't cut weight or something?
I literally said mma cutting is a leftover from wrestling. I don't believe whittaker has to cut to make 215lbs, then further to make 185lbs. Fighters like gastelum who are fat and lazy do, but not people who keep in a decent shape.
fighters get weighed the day before the fight you fricking mong
The day before is the official weigh in but I believe they also get weighed the fight night, not for making weight though.
yeah the ceremonial weigh ins are just that, ceremonial. it has NO impact on the official weight of the fighters
They're called ceremonial weigh ins and are done to show the fighters one last time to the people attending before the fights start, actual weigh ins are done 36 hours before the fights happen
When people talk about off season weight they actually mean they get fat when not in camp. Timothy Bradley and Adrian Broner were known to blow up in weight between fights. Jermall Charlo fights at 160 but has been out of the ring for a long time and a recent picture shows him looking every bit 190+ while standing next to his twin brother.
Have you seen Naseem Hamed or Ricky Hatton lately?
Naseem hamed and Hatton are retired though, I'm talking about guys who are active like Crawford, Canelo, Bivol, Loma, Mayweather when he was fighting etc.
athletes get fat as frick out of competition time
30lb cut only applies to middleweight and LHW, and only select fighters, but its possible.
>Boxing seems much more devoid of this bullshittery
Because boxing is standup only, with no throws. You don't need to be way stronger than the other guy to outbox him
In boxing there are weight classes ever 2.5 pounds, in MMA 10-15 pounds is absolutely massive, also fighters generally have binge-eating problems due to cutting weight and eating very strict so they blow up outside fight camp.
Regardless of who is right this shit is all so moronic and gay
They should just do weighins after the fight. What the frick does metagaming dehydrating yourself have to do with who is the better fighter. Putting aside the health risks it's still completely moronic
Here's Khabib's teammate literally fricking saying he weighs 185 lbs at fight night. Please stop talking you moron
Josh Thomson's brain is fricking heemed if you listen to him speak for two minutes. This bullshitter was saying Khabib was definitely retiring after the McGregor fight
He was off by two fights. He's not bullshitting though, khabib gets weighed on fight night and his weight has varied from 170 lbs to 185 lbs
this whole thing is moronic
they should weigh them right when the fight starts, if your cut leaves you feeling too shit to fight you don't belong at that weight class
Wrong, because guns exist being able to move heavy things continuously is infinity more useful and impressive.
You might as well as be bragging about being able to murder someone in pokemon, which is just as detached from the real world as sport fighting.
Guess what… both are also trained in guns. There are videos of both using ranged weapons with expert precision…
Anon it’s entirely possible that either people will just outright kill you. Its not shameful to admit that.
And I am better at guns, and I am also better at diplomacy and making friends, so he will never touch me with his dirty ape fighting hands.
holy cope
do you even have a gun
>they can...le beat you up!
Why are martialBlack folk like this? No they can't, I carry folding knife. What are you gonna do, grapple my highly aesthetic body in some gay bjj position? Fricking morons nobody is impressed with your monke cage fights in 2k23, you've been irrelevant since Bronze Age
Both are also highly trained in ranged weapons you moron.
>i will LE KNIFE THEM
Go ahead. Try. I wanna see you get shot and killed in front of your family. I'll shit on your bloody moron corpse
Almost always those fughters get killed in real streat fights. There is no rules in a real street fight. They think they know what they are doing, but a guy with experience will stab them 20 times before they realize what's happening
said fighters are also trained in weapons and will shoot you in a 'street fight'
cringe moron
trips get
>This just in, trained fighter get b***h slapped by a drunk, more at 11
Pereira will send you to the shadow realm.
now post GSP
Natty Fatty cope
If you can do this no one can mog you
I wonder how much of this is to psych out opponents
I remember hearing for years about how Anderson Silva would fight at like 220 or whatever. Then one day he took a short notice fight at light heavy and showed up as a chubby 198
I am pretty good at guessing guys' heights and weights and a lot of these guys really don't look as big as they claim
My gf gets visibly horny for UFC fighters and it makes me seethe
She seemed so loyal before
no matter what you do, do !NOT! let her watch paulo costa vs yoel romero
what is this board lifting for?
gay men, powershitting or women? why are you so obsessed with huge muscles?
> Is there anything more disgusting than a "fighters physique"
Lol, get mogged OP
Francis got his physique from calisthenics and it's fricking insane . My inspiration
Its all the weight cuts. I wish the weight categories were wider and fighters instead got incentives for staying at the target weight through the year.
Fighters look dyel because the trade off between muscle mass and execution speed favours the latter in terms of performance . The power output is generated by the rotation of the body, transmitting power to the fist like a motor to the drive shaft , so the few added pounds of shoulder mass that power shitters have would do nothing more than slow you down, decreasing overall power delivery and the momentum of the punch
This isn't true. Fighters look dyel because they are trying to fight at lower weight classes so they have a size advantage. Weight classes existing at all because muscle mass makes a big difference in fighting.
>muscle mass works against you in combat sports
Only because of weight classes.
Everyone knows the biggest, most muscular fighters (heavyweights) would dominate lightweights, regardless of the skill gap.
If you are stronger and more athletic in a fight, you will win if the skill gap isn't big.
Issue with powerlifting is it can make your legs too big, just look at the best fighters:
Tyson Fury, Jon Jones, etc.
They have very slender legs, overly thick legs will slow you down.
Wlad was a can and was only a champ because he fought in the weakest era of boxing
>He was a can even though he held championship belts for over a decade
Casuals need to stop watching boxing. They don't know what words mean
Of course, the early UFC tournaments had no weight classes and the first few were won by a skinny guy with little to no discernible muscle mass. He beat Dan Severin, a huge guy with tons of muscle.
If you watch current UFC you can see example after example of a fighter with too much muscle mass for his frame tiring out after 1 round at most while the taller, leaner fighter proceeds to heem the everloving shit out of him.
>Only because of weight classes.
Shut up moron. You dont know anything about fighting. have a nice day.
So do you think Conor McGregor could beat Francis Ngannou?
Or Hafthor Bjornsson, who isn't even trained in fighting?
Do you think Manny Pacquiao could beat Deontay Wilder?
Wlad's twin defeated Lennox Lewis.
I agree that he didn't have competition after that though.
You're so low IQ you dont even realize you're asking a whole different question than what you originally said
>Everyone knows the biggest, most muscular fighters (heavyweights) would dominate lightweights, regardless of the skill gap.
>So do you think Conor McGregor (156 lbs) could beat Francis Ngannou (250 lbs)?
>You're so low iq
>you're asking a whole different question than what you originally said
Yeah that's why flyweights punch harder than heavyweights. Oh wait, you're a fricking moron.
A 120kg fighter will hit roughly as hard as a 200kg guy except much faster and could actually do it for a round rather than twice before gassing out
Going above a certain weight is simply not practical
Oh no, so we have to stay below 300lbs? What a low limit, what a shame.
You fricking moron.
>this fat bald russian c**t could do anything he wanted to you in an unarmed 1 on 1 fight
i'd be mad too if i was a useless gymcel
/fit/cels would get mogged hard after one Pereira left hook
Most aren't seeking aesthetics.
why his shit looks weird
plenty of fighters look good
so you post a guy with squatty abs and literal negative triceps as evidence...?
>negative triceps
ok
Paulo Costa has big arms but is slow. Strong core + slighty skinny arms seems to be the best body type for fighters
Paulo costa is the best looking fighter in the UFC for sure with the face as well as body genetics (and roids)
But on the body type front, the best fighters have all-around muscle with no particularly unusual proportions (stipe miocic, GSP etc)
People like jones don't count becasue he literally cheats and says so on camera
Paulo looks like a buffed up gay Joe Daki straight from Delhi.
>Not wanting to look like akiyama
NGMI
pic related, bamhole inspector
>*lateral raises you*
>recently disqualified for banned substances
roidtrannies gonna roidtroony
Everyone in UFC roids moron
Even Dana White is a fricking roidtroony
>0 gyno
>0 hairloss
>0 acne
>almost no body hair
some people were just born to roid
What's wrong with bodyhair? Why are americans so afraid of it?
Mestizos have shitty body composition, despite being high test, somehow. Low muscle and high fat.
it's the rice and beans ._.
Is this supposed to disprove what I said? Actually looking at it, it seems that height isn't considered at all, and obviously the taller you are the more muscle mass you have. The steep decline in old age for Hispanic men is interesting but could be explained by older generations being poorer and malnourished. It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
>It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
Massive swathes of africa are still living like stone age people. All they do all day is lift heavy rocks, carry home heavy animals, sleep all day, then do it all again the next day. They basically exercise everyday vs your average soft urban office dweller
That guy is like 5'5 and lean
Always the upward angle with these "epic jacked African specimens" that get posted
Guys like Ngannou are rare where they're tall and jacked. If you took a 5'5 American and had them do the same work and eat the same starvation diet they would look the same as long as you slap a bunch of dark spray tan on them to give their definition the same pop.
nope, like 6'3. Look at francis ngannou - a cameroonian miner turned UFC fighter.
In the same way whites are more high test than asians, africans are more high test than whites.
Its been tested. Shut the frick up and just admit some people are better than you when it comes to genetics
Hahaha yeah right
Look at that guys head! It's fricking huge and he doesn't even have hair on top of it, just a buzzcut. Building muscle is supposed to make your head look smaller compared to your body, not the other way around. Look at his short ass arms and torso, 5'5 is generous with that guy. Tiny frame, high hips. Frank Zane pic related is like 5'8 and his head looks way smaller compared to his body, so imagine how short that guy is.
You have to have a severe genetic defect to have a head that size at 6'3
>It's sad though how whites can't beat blacks in spite of being tall and having enough money to eat well
Whites are actively discouraged from playing sports while Black folk are shoehorned into athletics. Guess which population is more muscular?
>Whites are actively discouraged from playing sports
where you homeschooled luddite? wtf every school I've ever been to if you were white and didn't do sports or at least exercise in your free time you were called a doughboy or shit like that. Post one non-twitter picture showing white discouragement from sports or you are a homosexual. This is the equivalent of thinking southerners were moronic puritans because some moms tried to get Harry Potter banned. have a nice day for being feeble enough to get psy op'd by israelites.
>having enough money to eat well
they end up eating garbage
>blacks don't have enough to eat well
if you mean in places like USA that's untrue. if they don't make enough, they just sell drugs/steal and or get money from the government
All athletes are dyel, if you want aesthetics you NEED bodybuilding routines. Nothing else will cut it.
I literally squat 280kg, I'm much more built - but even I know that this is the "ideal" for attractivity
It was always my goal type of physique when I got into lifting. I think it's better in most cases to 'not look like you lift' to normies. Just look like someone who is fit and athletic and has good natural genetics. When you get to the point where you obviously 'look like you lift' to clueless normies you're at a very unnatural and weird appearance. And you look like you're trying hard and compensating. Remember, you should downplay your success to make it look easy and natural.
>deflate like a balloon and live the rwst of your life with pea-sized balls
Do roidtrannies really?
>wat is lighting effects
They actually look really good. You're just a delusional moron.
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the real fighter physique
Poatan can decapitate your lil homosexual head with a left hook, pipe down
You guys are so moronic, pereira is like 6'5, of course he's gonna weigh 220 minimum with those muscles as an athlete. These newbies are so fricking moronic about weight. My friend who's 6'5 with little muscle and is skinnyfat weighs 220 and muscle weighs more than fat.
I've weighed close to 200 on bulks and if I had to for a job like UFC I could definitely cut to 155. I cut to 135 before from 165 and I was a lot leaner at 165 than I am now at 185.
there are better pictures of pereira
>having the physique of someone who could beat you up is bad
lolwut
bro you could body dysmorphia
seek help
Boxing, wrestling and MMA (all things with weight classes) require you to maximize your frame size. You have to have enough muscle mass to fight, but not so much you are competing against fighters that across the board are much taller and rangey than you.
So muscle mass generally works against you in combat sports after a certain point.
I'm 5'10 and 180lbs. If I lost 10lbs and fought at Welterweight (170) I would be fighting guys almost across the board that are 6' or taller that would have me beat in range easily. It's not impossible, but it would be a hard frickin road.
At my frame, I would be better off dropping some muscle and fighting at featherweight (145lbs) which means I'd be walking in the ring at 160 or so.
A lot of fighters don't like weight training. Jon Jones gets talked about all the time because he incorporates powerlifting into his training. Compared to how much he weighs, his lifts are mid when compared to even an average powerlifter. But compared to basically every other fighter, he might as well be the hulk. If these dudes lifted weights they'd stop looking like skinny fat DYELs.
What if you powerlift in a low weight class and also fight?
>Is there anything more disgusting than a "fighters physique"?
Yes. You.
Yeah, fatasses. I literally don't care about skinny or dyel or whatever the frick nu-IST thinks is the best body. If you're not obese, your body is fine.
Any other Strickland fans in here?
Is he /ourguy/?
I don't know anything about fighting.
Is it always preferable to cut weight to be in a lower class?
How is it decided? Does a trainer look at you and decide what is best?
I mean, if you're at your 'best self' at the upper end of a weight class, does a guy who cuts to come down to that weight class really have it over you?
yes you moron lol
haha like I said I don't know about it
Whether you like it or not, this man is, quite literally, the most dangerous man on the planet.