Even if he didn't achieved it natty, pretty sure it is achievable natty tbh.
But there is probably 3 years of work minimum and that hard bodybuilding, probably even more years for most. Great genetics, solid diet and smart approach to program might get you there
possible. dude is flexing the shit out of his lats and his delts arent large enough to be considered 100% roiding. depends on time frame ultimately
Even if he didn't achieved it natty, pretty sure it is achievable natty tbh.
But there is probably 3 years of work minimum and that hard bodybuilding, probably even more years for most. Great genetics, solid diet and smart approach to program might get you there
Yes.
I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret.
It's possible natty. Obviously mass monster bodybuilders have to take steroids.
But this guy? Dwayne Johnson? The guy that plays Thor? Your least favorite TikTok fitness gay? Its all possible natty.
Now here's the secret: >They don't look as good in real life as they do on the screen.
That's right. The rock is natty, and he doesn't look nearly as good as you think he does. TikTok zoomers are natty, and they're DYEL.
That's it. Without all the lighting, pump, angles, CGI, AI filters, and Photoshop; these people don't look much better than you of you've been lifting consistently for a year and a half.
One day, if you keep at it, you'll take the sickest shot of yourself with the lighting just right and you'll realize. >Shit, I'm bigger than that guy I accused of using steroids. >And I did it natty.
I know, I know. >He makes money off of his physique so he must do steroids
Is totally valid. And he was also a pro athlete at one point, which definitely suggests steroids. And he probably took them then. He may even take them now. But his physique isn't crazy impressive, and it doesn't REQUIRE steroids. He definitely lifts, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he looks BAD. He obviously is in better shape than most people his age. He's just not as huge as you think he is.
He's charismatic, and he's got star power; his name, his reputation puts butts in seats. Making him look like he's back in his prime via lighting and camera tricks or CGI is a trivial task for the studios he works for.
I know, I know. >He makes money off of his physique so he must do steroids
Is totally valid. And he was also a pro athlete at one point, which definitely suggests steroids. And he probably took them then. He may even take them now. But his physique isn't crazy impressive, and it doesn't REQUIRE steroids. He definitely lifts, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he looks BAD. He obviously is in better shape than most people his age. He's just not as huge as you think he is.
He's charismatic, and he's got star power; his name, his reputation puts butts in seats. Making him look like he's back in his prime via lighting and camera tricks or CGI is a trivial task for the studios he works for.
>Promotional Photograph
This is exactly my point. He is not that big in real life. He not even really that much taller than Mark.
>hollywood actor >over 250 lbs lean >in the best shape of his life at 50 >former WWE
There is 0 chance the Rock is natty. I appreciate your point but it doesn't apply to the Rock.
yes, unironically, but he may have cheated, and in which case, he gets
1) to be dependent on exogenous hormones for the rest of his life to feel like a man (but will never be a real man)
2) to age rapidly, taking many quality years off his life
3) zero respect from me
That amount of muscle mass is achievable natty, probably by most young men. Although you would have to gain some fat to get it.
Yeah the main thing you gain from lifting is epigenetic gains, these are gains that affect your genome and pass down directly to your children, and when they are in the womb they produce their own prenatal testosterone based on your epigenetics, prenatal testosterone positively affects your athletic ability, facial structure, brain, etc.
People who use roids not only get no epigenetic gains, they actually get the opposite, the genes that tell their body to produce testosterone stop being expressed all together, their children will be limp dick losers.
Which part? It's all true and you would know so if you knew basic biology. Although you probably wouldn't be roiding if you knew basic biology so I guess I shouldn't expect you to understand it.
Looks natty to me. But you never know. Some people have genetics that are so shit, that even on roids they look as good as a natty guy that is very dedicated.
Vid related. Some of the saddest shit I've ever seen.
?t=374
Guy did two cycles over 5 years and only put on ~5kg of muscle.
Well, he did it, so I think its possible natty.
Fuck no. Anyone who says it is doesn't know shit.
no
yes but he didn't do it natty
Lmao.
close to 1/3rd of regular gym goers are on some form of gear, why in the world would anybody expect outliers to be natty
Even if he didn't achieved it natty, pretty sure it is achievable natty tbh.
But there is probably 3 years of work minimum and that hard bodybuilding, probably even more years for most. Great genetics, solid diet and smart approach to program might get you there
it's achievable with roids
Yes.
I'm gonna let you guys in on a little secret.
It's possible natty. Obviously mass monster bodybuilders have to take steroids.
But this guy? Dwayne Johnson? The guy that plays Thor? Your least favorite TikTok fitness gay? Its all possible natty.
Now here's the secret:
>They don't look as good in real life as they do on the screen.
That's right. The rock is natty, and he doesn't look nearly as good as you think he does. TikTok zoomers are natty, and they're DYEL.
That's it. Without all the lighting, pump, angles, CGI, AI filters, and Photoshop; these people don't look much better than you of you've been lifting consistently for a year and a half.
One day, if you keep at it, you'll take the sickest shot of yourself with the lighting just right and you'll realize.
>Shit, I'm bigger than that guy I accused of using steroids.
>And I did it natty.
>The rock is natty
Occam's razor states that since he is an actor in hollywood films, he is not natty.
I know, I know.
>He makes money off of his physique so he must do steroids
Is totally valid. And he was also a pro athlete at one point, which definitely suggests steroids. And he probably took them then. He may even take them now. But his physique isn't crazy impressive, and it doesn't REQUIRE steroids. He definitely lifts, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying he looks BAD. He obviously is in better shape than most people his age. He's just not as huge as you think he is.
He's charismatic, and he's got star power; his name, his reputation puts butts in seats. Making him look like he's back in his prime via lighting and camera tricks or CGI is a trivial task for the studios he works for.
Yeah bro, look at those sick natty traps.
>Promotional Photograph
This is exactly my point. He is not that big in real life. He not even really that much taller than Mark.
>6'5
>265
>that lean
>"natural"
it's scientifically impossible.
>>6'5
Come on, dude, you don't seriously believe that, right?
No, that's a candid photo from on set.
i actually have enormous traps and shoulders and i'm 100% natty
>hollywood actor
>over 250 lbs lean
>in the best shape of his life at 50
>former WWE
There is 0 chance the Rock is natty. I appreciate your point but it doesn't apply to the Rock.
possible. dude is flexing the shit out of his lats and his delts arent large enough to be considered 100% roiding. depends on time frame ultimately
Yes, that's achievable withing 4 months of consistent stronglifts 5x5 lifting.
You can get arms/chest like that natty, shoulder too. Those lats though? Not natty.
Left with some lats is way better. Hell his chest looked better on the left
Yes but that guy def isn't natty.
No.
hard to say, he doesn't have that roid look. delts look natty too. but the amount of mass on his frame is sus
yes, unironically, but he may have cheated, and in which case, he gets
1) to be dependent on exogenous hormones for the rest of his life to feel like a man (but will never be a real man)
2) to age rapidly, taking many quality years off his life
3) zero respect from me
cheating? huh. didn't know he competed
everything is a competition, including what you're doing right now with your silly response
That amount of muscle mass is achievable natty, probably by most young men. Although you would have to gain some fat to get it.
Yeah the main thing you gain from lifting is epigenetic gains, these are gains that affect your genome and pass down directly to your children, and when they are in the womb they produce their own prenatal testosterone based on your epigenetics, prenatal testosterone positively affects your athletic ability, facial structure, brain, etc.
People who use roids not only get no epigenetic gains, they actually get the opposite, the genes that tell their body to produce testosterone stop being expressed all together, their children will be limp dick losers.
The future belongs to the natural.
boomer science
Which part? It's all true and you would know so if you knew basic biology. Although you probably wouldn't be roiding if you knew basic biology so I guess I shouldn't expect you to understand it.
Yes it is. He has good genetics though.
Possible in principle, not the case in fact... LIKE EVERY OTHER TIME THIS HAS EVER BEEN ASKED FOR FUCKS SAKE SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP
>giant lats and delts
Test probably
Looks natty to me. But you never know. Some people have genetics that are so shit, that even on roids they look as good as a natty guy that is very dedicated.
Vid related. Some of the saddest shit I've ever seen.
?t=374
Guy did two cycles over 5 years and only put on ~5kg of muscle.
I don't think so, that progress + his shitty advices are very fishy
With years of work, maybe. Anyone who says it can be done faster is selling you something.
He wouldn't look brutally uncanny if he was natural
depends on the time frame and height, but yea looks very possible. Most people who roid wont be above the natty limit tho.