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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, lack of walking due to delivery services and drive thrus. 50 extra calories a day is 5 pounds a year x 15 years since highschool and boom, you’re obese

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This math is moronic, but you are correct that the issue is LISS (low intensity steady state) useful exercise. Stuff that wouldn’t have even been considered exercise back in the 70s. Stuff like walking to the store, walking to your friends house, running around on a beach with friends, playing baseball with your neighbors, riding your bike to get groceries.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      50 calories/day * 365.2425 days/year * 15 years = 273931.875 = 78 pounds, yes

      but your TDEE will increase as you get heavier
      >sedentary 6'2" 190lbs TDEE = 2300 kcal
      >sedentary 6'2" 199lbs TDEE = 2349 kcal
      You will stop gaining weight at 199lbs. To gain 78 pounds from 190lbs, you would have to eat the TDEE of somebody who weighs 268lbs, which is 2724 kcal (+424 kcal)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >lack of walking due to delivery services and drive thrus
      There was an obesity problem before those were a thing

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    People are just sitting on there asses more. There was no smartphones or netflix in 99 and computers were primitive and the province of weirdoes.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >There was no smartphones or netflix
      i miss it holy frick

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Internet should have never left 56k.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dont use em then

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He misses a society where these things didnt exist, brainlet

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >There was no smartphones or netflix
      i miss it holy frick

      Internet should have never left 56k.

      We should have stayed at the early 2000s forever,anywhere from early 90s - early 00s was humanity peak.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >early 90s - early 00s was humanity peak

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      1. Fake numbers, caloric intake is WAY up
      2. Burning calories is way down

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    he posted a graph so it must be true

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Trust the science!

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seed oils

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. People walking less is CICO cope. It’s because seed oils are in everything and they destroy the thyroid and your metabolism.

      Cope ketotards

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        One of my favorite things about Jimmy is right before his arrest, his last couple of YouTube videos were him complaining about people calling him fat and how he's continuing to struggle with his eating. Good lord poetic justice can be sweet

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          qrd on the lardist?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            > qrd
            What the frick do you think happened? He was a youtuber, he was grooming kids

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Seed oil hate has nothing to do with keto moron, you can drink a gallon of onions oil a day and still be on keto

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You're the biggest schizo on this board. Whenever somebody dares to say a bad word about sneed oil, you're immediately there to defend it.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Dr McDougal who advocates a plant based diet called seed oils toxic. You’re a frickin’ moron

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Ketolards are the ones shillinh sneed, are you moronic?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        ah, the sneed internet defense force has arrived

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i reaaaaaally want to see where this graph got its numbers from

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >i reaaaaaally want to see where this graph got its numbers from
      "self-report study"

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >this burger can’t have THAT many calories let’s just call it 200

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. People walking less is CICO cope. It’s because seed oils are in everything and they destroy the thyroid and your metabolism.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >m-muh thyroid
      Your thyroid doesn’t defy the laws of physics. There is either a greater intake of calories or fewer calories being burned.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up moron you don't know what you're talking about.

        Educate yourself and put this discussion of CICO to rest

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          grifter videos

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >links a literally who to argue against the laws of thermodynamics
            Like clockwork. Eat less, fatass.

            Linking to multiple 50-minute long videos is not an argument.
            CICO isn't something that can be debated. A diet can affect hormones etc, sure. That does not disprove CICO: it just changes the Calories Out part of the equation.
            Someone on a large calorie deficit might feel lethargic and drained of energy and find it difficult to carry out their normal exercise regime. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just means the Calories Out part of the equation has changed.
            Different foods require different levels of energy to digest, protein typically having a higher thermic effect than fat or carbohydrate. This doesn't disprove CICO it just changes the Calories In part of the equation.
            Many people find that on a low-carb or keto diet, they can lose weight without tracking calories because they find the diet very filling and they don't feel the need to snack throughout the day. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just changes the Calories In part of the equation

            no matter what idiots like you will just say muh thermodynamics muh CICO can't be debated. Yes it's debated and debunked if you want to see why then watch the video end of story or go actually read the laws of thermodynamics until you finally understand them. you might actually learn something instead of wasting time. The fact you want to just shit post proves the point there's no use in replying because you truly believe you can't be wrong

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              But you're not here to discuss anything you're here to link to 50 minute YouTube videos.
              Why don't you just try to make one point in your own words right here about why CICO isn't true for human bodies?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >links a literally who to argue against the laws of thermodynamics
          Like clockwork. Eat less, fatass.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Linking to multiple 50-minute long videos is not an argument.
          CICO isn't something that can be debated. A diet can affect hormones etc, sure. That does not disprove CICO: it just changes the Calories Out part of the equation.
          Someone on a large calorie deficit might feel lethargic and drained of energy and find it difficult to carry out their normal exercise regime. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just means the Calories Out part of the equation has changed.
          Different foods require different levels of energy to digest, protein typically having a higher thermic effect than fat or carbohydrate. This doesn't disprove CICO it just changes the Calories In part of the equation.
          Many people find that on a low-carb or keto diet, they can lose weight without tracking calories because they find the diet very filling and they don't feel the need to snack throughout the day. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just changes the Calories In part of the equation

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but here are some basic things you are not considering

            Obese people usually have garbage metabolisms

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Obese people usually have garbage metabolisms
              Your metabolism may be garbage, but it's not garbage enough to be so low that eating anything makes you fat. You're just making excuses up at this point. Even Jeff attempts the difference isn't that severe

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you feel good while cutting -400 a day for months?

                Now double the deficit and swap months for years. Would you do that? I wouldn't, it would be a worse hell than staying obese.

                You need a different strategy entirely like fasting in order to get anywhere.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you feel good while cutting -400 a day for months?

                Yes. It only feels bad during the first few days, as soon as my body gets used to it, I feel no different than during bulking.

                This whole "but you feel like shit during a diet!"-argument is only ever made by people who never stuck with a diet for more than a few days.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This is true. I cut 20 lbs about 9-6 months ago and you get used to it pretty quickly. In fact I didn't even mean to do 20, I was going for around 14-15 and overshot. But I would argue a lower deficit over a longer period of time is a better option.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >an 800kcal deficit is hard to maintain so you should just not eat at all
                Why are fatties like this?
                I can sustain a deficit of over 1000kcal via LISS cardio like walking my dog and riding my bike. When you burn nearly 4000kcal a day and your diet is whole foods with no refined sugars, it's pretty easy.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you feel good while cutting -400 a day for months?
                7 months at -500, lost 30 pounds and 10% BF. Fittest I've ever been in my life and I feel amazing.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                For most people cutting calories for a long time simply means giving up stuff like fast food and eating more at home. There is literally no suffering involved once a better diet is figured out.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >it would be a worse hell than staying obese.
                No.
                If you think so, you are not people, you are fat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >cutting and intensely working out on minimal food is the exact same thing as a fatty stopping his consumption of Candy bars and Pepsi!!

                KYS

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Stop linking to fricking YouTube videos to make your point for you I'm not watching a fricking 10 minute video because some shit head on IST is too fricking stupid to actually articulate why he disagrees with me.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do you feel good while cutting -400 a day for months?

                Now double the deficit and swap months for years. Would you do that? I wouldn't, it would be a worse hell than staying obese.

                You need a different strategy entirely like fasting in order to get anywhere.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              That's bullshit fat people cope. I've been around enough obese people to know that they consume obscene amounts of calories to maintain that weight.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >obese peiple consjme obscene amounts of calories
                And often they don't realize it. If they count calories, it's a rough approximation of their three official meals. They don't count the snack every hour or the 4 or 5 sugary drinks during the afternoon.
                An overweight friend and I tried to figure out how our meals were so similar but he wasn't coming down to my weight. Didn't take long to figure out we was doubling my daily intake with larger portions, snacks and drinks

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >links a literally who to argue against the laws of thermodynamics
        Like clockwork. Eat less, fatass.

        Linking to multiple 50-minute long videos is not an argument.
        CICO isn't something that can be debated. A diet can affect hormones etc, sure. That does not disprove CICO: it just changes the Calories Out part of the equation.
        Someone on a large calorie deficit might feel lethargic and drained of energy and find it difficult to carry out their normal exercise regime. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just means the Calories Out part of the equation has changed.
        Different foods require different levels of energy to digest, protein typically having a higher thermic effect than fat or carbohydrate. This doesn't disprove CICO it just changes the Calories In part of the equation.
        Many people find that on a low-carb or keto diet, they can lose weight without tracking calories because they find the diet very filling and they don't feel the need to snack throughout the day. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just changes the Calories In part of the equation

        You’re being disingenuous or willfully moronic. Your thyroid will greatly effect the calories out part of CICO, which will obviously effect CICO overall. Someone that’s used to 2,500 calories as maintenance with a thyroid issue that now causes them to go down to 1,000 calories is basically fricked and may not realize that for a good year. That’s 156 calories later. Not saying that’s the case for everyone, but I was hit with a thyroid problem last year. I thankfully caught it early and I’m on medication. I work out more now and eat less to compensate so I haven’t gained any extra weight, but it’s definitely not as easy as it used to be.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I bet 250 million overweight americans all have thyroid issues

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Not saying that’s the case for everyone, but

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's the case for almost no-one. Thyroid problems are just a pathetic excuse for people being sedentary motherfrickers.
              I've never met a fat person that averages over 15,000 steps a day, lifts weights and cooks 95% of their own food.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh okay, you’re moronic.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >yeah I have a thyroid problem, how could you tell?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Since it’s not life or death, I honestly hope you get a thyroid issue so you’ll understand this better. I was just like you a year ago lmao

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I was just like you a year ago lmao
                Just because you suffered from hypothyroidism, doesn't mean any nonsense you say about it is correct.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They literally do, even most skinny people past 25 do. Low thyroid function is THE reason for overweight people. With proper thyroid function there is no, zero, zip obesity.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          CICO morons are confirmed newbies, anon. Anyone that’s been in fitness long enough knows that it’s not as simple as reading the calorie label on the back. Your body doesn’t absorb calories the same for every food and every macronutrient. I’ve lost weight eating well over my calorie deficit eating high fat low carb.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Your body doesn’t absorb calories the same for every food and every macronutrient
            That's literally what I said in this post you illiterate moron

            Linking to multiple 50-minute long videos is not an argument.
            CICO isn't something that can be debated. A diet can affect hormones etc, sure. That does not disprove CICO: it just changes the Calories Out part of the equation.
            Someone on a large calorie deficit might feel lethargic and drained of energy and find it difficult to carry out their normal exercise regime. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just means the Calories Out part of the equation has changed.
            Different foods require different levels of energy to digest, protein typically having a higher thermic effect than fat or carbohydrate. This doesn't disprove CICO it just changes the Calories In part of the equation.
            Many people find that on a low-carb or keto diet, they can lose weight without tracking calories because they find the diet very filling and they don't feel the need to snack throughout the day. This doesn't disprove CICO, it just changes the Calories In part of the equation

            The fact that you think variable thermic effects of macronutrients disproves CICO just shows how much of a brainlet you are.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Your thyroid will greatly effect the calories out part of CICO
          It affects the Calories Out part of CICO by making you tired and lethargic. Thyroid issues don't magically cause your body to burn fewer calories when you walk 5 miles, it just means you won't feel like you have the energy to walk 5 miles in the first place.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you talking about a subject you know nothing about? Everything you said is false. It’s not just energy that’s effected, anon.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I'll say it again in no uncertain terms so you can try and refute it instead of just saying "uh no".
              Hypothyroidism does not cause your body to burn fewer calories when performing a given physical task, it just makes you feel too tired to even accomplish the task.
              I'm not contesting that people with hypothyroidism will burn fewer calories at rest, or that their metabolism is impaired in general, or that they need treatment.
              But hypothyroidism or not, your body requires the same calorie expendtiture to move a given distance in a given time.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            So is it CICO or not? Because you’re going back on that by using the fatigue argument as for why people with thyroid issues are gaining weight. Let me break it down for you:
            >before thyroid issue
            2,500 calories to maintain
            >after thyroid issue
            gain weight with 2,500 calories, have to reduce to 1,000
            No mention of working out. Their fatigue is irrelevant in this case, they’re simply gaining weight with less calories.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              It's CICO. A genuine thyroid problem changes the Calories Out part of the equation.
              >Their fatigue is irrelevant in this case
              It absolutely isn't. A huge part of our daily calorie expenditure is the kind of mindless fidgeting or short bursts of movement that we don't really think of as exercise, exactly the kind of movements that someone with severe lethargy due to hypothyroidism isn't going to engage in.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                please show a single published example case of any condition resulting in greater than a 10% decrease in TDEE (let alone a 1000kcal) that doesn't involve grievous harm to an individual.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Why? I'm not saying hypothyroidism magically causes people to burn fewer calories for activities, that's the other moronic anon.
                I'm arguing that it makes people lethergic, and because of their lethargy, they aren't moving around as much as they otherwise would.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    moron take. Average caloric Intake across the population was already too high, so even if it remains stable, this can explain rising obesity. Some people only eat at a gradual calorie excess so if they only gain say 5lbs of fat per year, it will take them some time to become obese.
    Not to mention population-level stats hide extremes. You could have more people eating at a high calorie surplus and other people eating at maintenence and still see an overall increase in obesity despite overall daily calorie averages remaining static.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes of course, just look at this nice excel graph I made to support my claim!

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Anon I know people who don't leave their home except to go get groceries and meet people maybe once a week at best. For both of those "activities" they use the car. All the other time is spent in bed, on a chair, on the couch or on the computer.
    They could eat less calories than in the past and still be 3 times as fat as people in the past.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    2,000 daily intake is for people who at least take 10,000 steps a day which roughly burn 350 calories. If you have zero activity you should really go for 1400-1600 calories tb.h

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I’m losing over a pound a week at 145lb eating 2k calories and I never take more than 5k steps. Don’t listen to this eating disorder encouragement anons

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Either you’re not actually eating at 2k or you are taking more steps than you think. It is insanely easy to get 10k steps if you’re not a neet. Walking to and back from work is like 5000 steps for me and during work I do another 5000 steps. Yes, I have something that records it so I am not guessing.

        The reason why people of the past were much skinnier is because they walked A LOT

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I record my steps. Count and weigh every calorie, etc. I am 12% body fat according to BIA. I add back any extra calories if I do cardio on a treadmill, too.

          1,400 calories is what I feed my 8yr old son

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I have zero activity and I'm losing 1kg a week on 1500cal. Are you anorexic or what?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        1500 with no activity is fine. I am saying for people doing like 2000+ with no activity. Imagine doing that daily. Even 300 calories more like 2300 will amount to 1k g gained weekly if literally no activity in that week.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Naw you’re just a homosexual with no muscle. You’re prescribing people a caloric intake without knowing their height weight or muscle base

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >140lbs
            stfu manlet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's a "woman".

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do these numbers take into account the fact most people under report/estimate their own caloric intake?

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    twitter is fake and gay

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >caloric intake hasn't increased since 1999
    doubt
    >something is poiso-
    stopped reading. schizo account for chuds

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You could have just looked at the greek statue display pic and come to the same conclusion without reading anything.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone that posts statues always end up being the biggest freaking morons. The israelites and Muslims are right about idolatry.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        true. and these idiots are all over IST now

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >carnitard gaylarper
    No, everyone wasn't eating only New York Strip steaks and salt in 1999. Stupid ass twitter grifters.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    That graph is misinformation. Half the meals at fast food places is 75% of your daily caloric intake and fast food is one of the biggest industries in the world

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'd guess it's bullshit, but it would be nice to know how he estimates caloric intake and it would be nice to see the chart start from ~1970 or so rather than at a time when obesity had already started trending way up.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >caloric intake hasn't increased since 1999
    This isn't true. Also anyone who is obese isn't eating only 2000 calories a day and they never eat a deficit, because if they did they wouldn't be fricking obese.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    B-B-BUT MUH THERMODYNAMICS!!!! THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    But much fysics do.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      ugh this takes me back to 2014 IST IIFYM posting hahahaha

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >800 calories of donuts is the same as 800 calories of beef
      you gotta eat both to get your macros in bro
      brb deep frying some dough in lard to eat with my brisket

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >weight is all about counting calories
      Doesn't matter if you count them, but weight management is as simple as the relation of calories consumed and expended.
      >doesn't care what he eats
      What? Have you ever met a CICO educator who doesn't value nutrition? Nutrition is vital to human health, it's just irrelevant to weight loss. It's like saying "electricians don't care if you use copper or lead plumbing." Not true, but they're here to wire your place, not plumb it.
      >800cal donut same as 800cal beef
      Yeah as far as weight loss is concerned. There are other goals you may want to take into consideration when deciding between these foods.
      >[sarcastic] CICO diet works great just look around
      Literally has never failed anyone ever
      >unhealthy meme foods
      Not regularly consumed by the nutritionally conscious, irrelevant
      >le fat basedman
      This is you

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Nutrition is vital to human health, it's just irrelevant to weight loss.
        absolutely false

        donut same as 800cal beef
        >Yeah as far as weight loss is concerned.
        absolutely false

        you have no idea what you're talking about and don't need to be posing as an authority

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          "Irrelevant" was a strong word. "Has no direct connection" or "doesn't need to be considered" would probably be more accurate. Good nutrition can make lowering the CI a whole lot easier psychologically (plus all the irrelevant health benefits), but it doesn't change that CICO is driving the weight loss. Someone with a high pain tolerance and a point to prove can lose large amounts of weight on donuts and water alone.
          Fat women mostly don't want to acknowledge this, so they eat a metric tonne of leafy greens and nuts every day and declare weight loss to be some sort of mystery.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >calories-in calories-out diet is working great for everyone
      no you moron, they're eating delivery food and high calorie snacks everyday and massively exceeding their caloric needs

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How do they measure this? How do they know how much each person is consuming? Are they self reporting or is some science bro counting for them?

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >no mention of calorie expenditure

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Carnivore Aurelius is pretty based but also a bit of a nut. I like him overall but he veers into grifting much of the time, though he's gotten better about not constantly shilling his liver chip things lately

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >him
      I've got news for you pal.

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >caloric intake hasn't increased since 1999
    Yeah people were drinking these during the Y2K parties.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The sugar amount scares me more than the calories

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >32 fl oz
      Jesus fricking Christ, that's nearly as large as my water jug

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >333g of sugar
      >111% recommended intake
      How is 300g of sugar is normal ?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They put sugar under Carbs. 300g of good carbs is okay. Never trust big nutrition

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No matter how good this might taste, i couldnt justify wasting 2600 calories on it when theres way better/more things i could eat instead.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      263g of sugar, wtf how do Americans even have teeth after that.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    vegetable oil is your answer.
    sugar has almost no correlation with obesity. sugar is just an energy source. you intake sugar, you use sugar.

    vegetable oil on the other hand utterly nerfs your hormones.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Lack of work. Nobody can run up 16 flights of stairs anymore. People think walking 10 miles is a lot.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If that sourceless claim is true, it's still a sourceless internet comment.
    It also ignores sedentary lifestyles.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*self-reported*~~ caloric intake hasn't increased

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Every strict calorie counting study has reported that on average people eat 1200 calories more than they did 50 years ago

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      link

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >le based stoic trad carnivore ketotard twitter account

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Oldfart here. Nobody that was an adult 20 years ago believes that caloric intake hasn't changed. At the same time, sitting on your ass all day every day at a "work" from home knowledge-worker job was very uncommon back then. We are packing on the pounds coming and going.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It is gut health. It is no coincidence that all foods promoting weight loss are probiotic in some measure while those leading to weight gain are bad for your gut through either antibiotic feed or bad fat/carbohydrate combinations.

    No other theorie is consistent with all the data, not sneed oils, not glyphosate, not lithium, not keto, not cico.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I think guy health plays a massive role but people still need to exercise. I know people who consume a lot of kombucha, sauerkraut, kimchi etc and are still pretty fat

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        There is a curious thing where probiotics are only good for your good health if your gut health is already positive, if it is negative they don't help. If you are already fat and have shitty gut health you need to fast for a while to reset the gut microbiome, after that probiotics will work.

        I think sports and counting calories are usefull tools aswell, but having a healthy gut is at least as important and insanely overlooked, nobody in the mainstream talks about it. I couldn't lose weight for the life of me despite frequent exercise and 1850kcal limit but after I fixed my gut I lost 35kg and counting.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I've only ever seen fats (or they very shortly afterwords became so) eating/drinking that shit. I think they consume that stuff because people say it's "healthy" and then they do the classic "I don't need to actually take care of myself, because I consumed 'good' thing!"

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Less exercise. That's it. 3 seconds of thought were sufficient to figure it out. Which says all there is to know about that homosexual.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, this is just trailing affects of a bad diet. A bad diet will cause you to keep on gaining 2-3 lbs per year. Play that forward and that’s where the new obese are coming from: people who are eating the same but have graduated from overweight to obese

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Companies are evil and must be regulated except the ones that spray pesticides on everything and feed us deodorized oils, Floyd loved them.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >muh cico is wrong
    >muh metabolics
    >muh thyroid
    fricking eat regular people food, not your autistic minmax fringe diets

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know, but it's the lack of heavy metals (primarily likelt Hg,Cd,Pb,Cu). We have no subcutaneous fat as energy storage, only tissue that is meant to keep our bodies at the right temperature, and this tissue is highly prone to steatosis from malnutrition. In fact only a few animals may have subcutaneous fat as energy storage, such as bears or camels. (The blubber of sea mammals is also primarily insulation, as only specific parts get sacrificed in starving whales, and it's a gummy chewy tissue, not "lard".)

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where's the mystery here? People aren't participating in physically demanding jobs anymore, yet our diets have become more dense.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      we ate much more meat a hundred years ago and physically active jobs have been replaced by recreational exercise but used to be nonexistent. how about all the people who didnt have physically active jobs were they all obese?

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bullshit numbers.
    Nearly all food is objectively worse, and worse for you.
    Rampant consumerism and pathological degeneracy have encouraged, and even rewarded, participation in all vices, especially greed, sloth, and gluttony.
    also ur mum gae

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    bull fricking shit that the average person has an average calorie intake of 2250. maybe if it's self-reported LOL

    also what's the difference between "energy available" and "energy intake" ?

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >200+ calories per day since 1970
      >shorter population due to mass immigration from manlet countries
      problem solved.

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it takes time for people to become obese
    woah...

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >IST when they see an unsourced Excel graph

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    who the frick measured this? yheah im totally gonna believe that there is this conclusive ~~*study*~~ backed by ~~*science*~~ that caloric intake hasn't increased since 1999. yeah that's totally a legitimate statistic that i have no reason whatsoever to doubt.

    that said, lack of exercise is poisoning our metabolism. people work from home, use cars, watch tv etc. back in the day just by living normal life you burned easily 500 kcal more. 500kcal difference per day is 24kg per year. yeah its big.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The data is from a self report study, kek. They literally asked fat people: "What do you eat in a typical day?" and expected honest answers, lmao

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My gf spends more calories whining about not being able to lose weight and finding excuses not to go to the gym than working out. And on TikTok more than both combined.
    My former roommate whom I introduced to working out hasn't skipped a workout in four years despite crippling alcoholism and laziness.

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Seed oils are the problem brah

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's lithium. All the least obese places in the world are mountainous upland areas where there is little to no mining or industry or places where there is no lithium in the drinking water for some other reason. People do not want to accept this conclusion because it is so grim, but we are very literally being poisoned by industrial society, which is destroying the health and beauty of human bodies in most parts of the developed world.

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah bro people are 500lb landwhales now because of sneed oil, not because they eat 4000 calories of crap every day and just sit around their house.

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter account LARPing as a Roman emperor
    Yes I'm sure this will be based on a good source

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Twitter makes people so weird. Who am i gonna LARP as on this website? OH i know, "Carnivore Aurelius"

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    More like
    >Something is poisoning our data
    and it's fatties that report they eat 500kcal/day but their genetics make it impossible to lose weight.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >carnivore
    >marcus aurelis ppropic
    this retad thinks he has some obscure knowledge but hes actually just going to die at 30

  52. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >b-b-but my CICO
    There is only one reliable measure of being fit, and it is metabolic rate.

  53. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >caloric intake hasn't increased since 1999
    lol, lmao
    >Carnivore Aurelius
    I wonder what he could possibly have to say is the culprit

  54. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like fricking bullshit, need the study

  55. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You have to be completely stupid to believe the average American is only taking in 2200 calories each day. I eat around 2400 calories to maintain ottermode at 6'0". There is no way a 30+ BMI "person" is eating less than me. Yes, people walk less than they used to but calorie intake has also increased. Simply look at fast "food" menu items now and compare them to 30 years ago. Back then the average man wasn't eating a triple double mcburger twice a day.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      McDonald's got rid of the supersize meal forever ago and most places have been steadily decreasing portion sizes in an attempt to yid more money out of you. Two triple cheeseburgers is only 1,000 calories anyway. That's for both of them, not each.

  56. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/kQkldtj.png

      Is this true?

      Literally just more oils AND cereals.
      >every diet is either
      >DUDE ITS THE CARBS!
      Or
      >DUDE ITS THE FATS!
      When the answer is literally just eat less processed shit (and less in general)

  57. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It’s literally CICO
    >dude muh 800 calories of donut
    Go ahead moron eat only 800 calories of donuts and lose weight as well as your muscles and gain a deficiency
    Or yet go ahead and eat 3000 calories of beef and fat and tell me how much weight you lost because those are “good” calories

  58. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Obesity is the sum of caloric surplus over time, so the chart isn’t saying anything terribly surprising.

  59. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Plastic. Chink poison products

  60. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No

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