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you can't even do 1pl8 can you
Yes I can, easily. Problem is I either feel nothing from this exercise or randomly hurt myself doing it every few months. I'm DONE with it
ur a spastic
ur a moron
You should be doing yates rows
Only people I ever see doing Yates rows are either roided to the gills, or more commonly scrawny dyels who follow advice from guys who are roided to the gills.
like panty boy?
Send vid w/ timestamp then
I really hate this exercise. I never feel like im doing it right. Wish i just had a chest supported way to pull at home
db rows on an incline bench?
Elevated flat bench with bar underneath?
Tried it in my incline but the legs are set up weird. Cuts my range of motion in half. Might try raising it. Ill have to build something though. Itll have to go up a fair bit and i dont think stacking plates underneath would be a stable/smart solution
If you have a bench, just do bench rows. Barbell goes underneath the bench (goal is to hit bench with barbell).
>Problem is I either feel nothing from this exercise or randomly hurt myself doing it every few months.
Skill issue.
Haha oh wow the twitter phrase!
Outed yourself as a twittergay. Go back.
> randomly hurt myself doing it every few months
DYEL
thats what i was thinking probably can't even deadlift his bw kek
I weigh like 170 and deadlift 305 for 5 reps currently. Yeah, I'm definitely not the strongest guy, but this one exercise always fricks me up and I hate it
> does nothin-
?t=114
>build a massive back using pullups
>promote some goofy ass rows to dab on morons
>morons think you grown your back with shit ass rows
heh
heh
> rowing 4pl8 does nothing
These are the people that are giving you advice
I also suck at these and I’m not sure why. I just stick to cable rows
I had this problem but then I moved to cable rows which are better in every way
>t. a roundbacker
You gotta lay on a bench so you can increase the load by a lot
Be aware that you miss out on working out abs, hankies and lower back this way. Nothing wrong with isolation, but just be aware that you’re turning a compound into an isolation movement.
*hammies
outed myself as a disgusting phoneposter
Sour fricking grapes. It's an excellent lift to build your back and is a nice practical strength movement.
Any cues to engage the back muscles well?
Pendlay rows use too much the arms and not enough the back.
Bent over rows with lots of "body english" / cheating where you allow the lats to stretch and the upper back to round at the bottom of the movement and you use the posterior chain to reverse the weight are so much better.
Look up how Ed Coan did rows.
>Pendlay rows use too much the arms and not enough the back.
This is not possible?
Seal rows king
What is the "1/2/3/4" for Barbell Row? Also, overhand or underhand?
Like 175 - 225. My first inclination was to say 225, but 135 on this honestly feels like a lot for beginners. Feels like way more than 135 does on bench for beginners for example. To be honest though, op is right. This is a moronic exercise. I have done strength training for years and coached at the state and college level. Only morons do barbell rows instead of inverted rows
> coached at state and college level
> inverted rows
This is how I know you are a terrible coach, you have only ever coached genetic freaks so you think you have achieved satisfactory results when in fact you probably have stymied the progress of your athletes. Please learn more about your profession.
>you have only ever coached genetic freaks
why shit fancy coaches say is worthless
The minimum is your bench press weight
The 1/2/3/4 is 1pl8 for 10, while the 2/3/4/5 is your own bodyweight for 10.
Also Overhand, underhand is bicep-limited.
b8
*sniiiiiiiiiff*
It's a fine exercise but it's inherently inferior to regular bb rows, at least for size, because you don't use a controlled eccentric
Hating this exercise is a tell-tale sign of a DYEL
The reason most of you people hate them is because you're used to basically standing up straight doing your "rows" and this forces you to use your mid-back instead of basically your fricking traps
The second reason you incels hate them is for the reason you posted - the "hurt"
They hurt because your posterior chain is weak as frick and you're probably swinging the weight up which requires using your lower back.
Basically the only people who hate this exercise are DYELs who have been ego lifting their "barbell rows" (basically bent over shrugs for them) and pendley rows force then ti actually use their lats/rhomboids/rear delts
I WILL yates row more than you and look like a SWEATY FRICKIN ANIMAL while you do your awkward bent over incel angle row with b***h weight while everyone laughs at you and wonders why you're so autistic 😉
they hurt because my back is crooked 🙁
Way too high risk to reward ratio even if you do things right, inertia will always be there to put unnecessary extra stress on your back. While I think it's a good point about mid-back, weighted pullups and deadlifts just completely mog this one anyway if you go for strength. And even something like barbell seal rows seem superior for isolation purposes.
this right here
I hurt my back doing rows, and I did them for years with perfect form without issue until one fricking day. I have better results doing lat pulldowns on the machine for volume anyway
>risk to reward ratio
In less feeling-protecting terms, don't snap your shit up like a moron just to occasionally show off at the gym bro, there really are many better options. People warn against this one for VERY good reasons.
literally what is the point of pendlay rows when you can just do cable rows with a straight bar attachment. At least yates rows stimulate the upper back/low back through stabilization
I could literally ask you the exact same thing but in reverse
I can max out the cable row machine and do 15+ reps. Therein lies the problem.
I'm a fan, please tell me more. Also, post body.
It's literally the perfect opposite movement of the bench press
That's just the same movement but taking the posterior chain out of the equation
I would take her posterior chain into the equation if you catch my drift.
That's how you get a staph infection on your face
Does your gym not provide disinfectant?
>Not being infectionmaxxed
> Dies smothered by the bench.
>weighted sweat sniffs
>me when a hot girl is done using the bench
>lol haha just doing my rows!
love from Kazakhstan
>incelistan
Who the frick's gym has this piece of equipment
>when the fat sweaty Black person is done using the bench
Superior row in every way
I can do the max at my gym pretty easily now though, what do you do after?
There's a plate loaded version but I've never seen it at a gym
Of a pulley system? Never seen that before. Sounds terribly janky honestly. Or pic related version? I see variations on those all the time. I like the feel of the pulley one more, but as the other anon said, super dependent on the weight limit of the one your gym has. Which in my case would be 0 lbs because I'm home gym now. 🙁
Surplus Strength makes a low row attachment for their pulley system. Got one for my rack prior to the price increase and I love it, buttery smooth.
it looks slick yeah
it also costs more than my entire power rack
more reps, slow eccentric.
Or gym pin
one arm at a time maybe? idk I don't like that fricking thing
I like Pendlay rows but I get yelled at for slamming the bar. I hate normal barbell rows and they piss me off so much I actually get angry doing them
Same bro
stop worrying about "feeling" just do the exercise and track progress. if there's progress then it's working
My back didn‘t grow shit shen I did pendlay rows. As soon as I switched to high volume machine rows my lats exploded in size.
Yates Rows >>>> Pendlay row
Frick this snappy exercise, not useful for people with long femurs.
cope
Yates literally snapped his biceps doing those shit rows
stronglifts should unironically be banned from the internet, that meme program has unironically ruined a lot of lives
Worked for me. Not for more than a year, but it got me up to intermediate weight on all lifts
Modify them so you do controlled eccentrics and do 10+ rep sets so you're not flailing and slamming a too-heavy weight
Do pull ups fgt
machine rows>db rows>bb rows
pullups and rows are not the same movement moron
>pullups and rows are not the same movement moron
>they are both pull
>they work similar muscle groups
are you moronic?
Post your 1 dimensional back
I only ever do pullups, weighted pullups or pendlay row and my back is great. You must be doing something wrong Anon, don't believe the israeli tricks.
Post back plz
No pics, just 54 kg PR at around 83 bodyweight
my balls are heavier than those stones
cute :33
Are you 5'2?
A 25kg plate like that is around 17 inches tall, in the beginning frame of the webm we can see the plate diameter spans the length of his femur, which for a 6' man is normally 19.5", so he is probably 5'6"
So you pull 137kg? What's your 1RM on bench?
No reason not to use a chest supported seated machine.
It's an accessory exercise. Do it with low weights and make sure that you have got good form.
It's not worthless, it's you who's the fricking moron doing it for 5 reps. I want you to ask yourself, what is it you believe you are achieving? Switch to 8+ REPS and see what happens
This guy gets it
Dubs of TRUTH!
Just did these 5x5 2pl8, zoomer next to me deadlifting 1pl8 was looking in total awe
Do them off the rack safeties/blocks so it stops right below your knee instead of the floor.
The exercise feels like shit depending on your body proportions especially if you are tall.
Dang anon that’s actually good advice.
>*is totally fricking worthless*
But enough about op.
t bar row is better
ENTER and KNEEL
That shit puts tremendous amount of pressure on my ribcage
Brace properly then
Black person just use the seated row machine in your gym
Bros, how much cheating is accepted while doing pendlay rows? I used to cheat mad ton when I did them in 3-5 rep range. Now I go 6-8 minimum and
my reps look somewhat like that of this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YLBHc_eA2XA
Doing them with completely stiff back feels off for me.
What is the best grip width for Pendlay
Wider for mid back, narrower for lats. This is true of all rows.
do it with a trap bar. high handles put the back in a better position and the neutral grip is better for rown
Don't do pendlay rows just do standard bb rows
I've been going to the gym for ten years and been to all sorts of gyms including powerlifting ones and I've literally never seen anyone doing this moronic exercise.
Pull ups is king anyway when it comes to back exercises
They are fun to do at lower weights, but I have a lot of trouble progressing at them even with good hamstring and hip mobility. I have the same problem with them that I do with all the other barbell rows where my form breaks down as I start to cheat reps, no matter how slow I take them. Still I hate pendlays the least out of the barbell rows, and they don't hurt my lower back like some people here.
Seated cable rows are literally the same fricking thing but isolate and target the muscles so much better, especially if you fully extend your legs and keep your upper body still. You can even do them explosively if you want to. Barbell lat compounds for horizontal pulls are a fricking meme.
>cope. Cope. COpe. COPe. COPE. COPE. COPE
Thats how your post just read
Every day IST comes up with a new exercise that is """totally fricking worthless"""
Just pick up the weight you stupid frick
>89 other posters come to the weekly 'deaflift is bad' bait thread